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(Detroit Free Press)   Fourteen heathens pay the price, for riding a bus through Amish paradise. Their bus rolled over once or twice, driving in an Amish paradise   (freep.com ) divider line
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2008-10-09 06:18:20 PM  
Wasn't that a bad song from the 80's?

A-mish Par-a-dise! We're something something something something something....
 
2008-10-09 06:25:15 PM  
That headline polka'd my funny bone.
 
2008-10-09 06:26:31 PM  
Happy to note I was not with my heathen brethren this time.
 
2008-10-09 06:26:40 PM  
jerry2a: Wasn't that a bad song from the 80's?

A-mish Par-a-dise! We're something something something something something....


Weird Al Yankovic's take on the rap song "Gangster Paradise."
 
2008-10-09 06:30:33 PM  
FTFA: The bus was driving through Northfield Township, which is west of South Lyon, at the time, according to Michigan State Police.

I'm willing to bet one internets that the bus was traveling east.
 
2008-10-09 06:41:54 PM  
Now with video goodness.
 
2008-10-09 06:44:23 PM  
This is a great parody headline honoring a song parodying a song paying tribute to Stevie Wonder's "Pastime Paradise."

The musicologist in me must post the original lyrics from the 1976 song that started it all.

Theyve been spending most their lives
Living in a pastime paradise
Theyve been spending most their lives
Living in a pastime paradise
Theyve been wasting most their time
Glorifying days long gone behind
Theyve been wasting most their days
In remembrance of ignorance oldest praise

Tell me who of them will come to be
How many of them are you and me
Dissipation
Race relations
Consolation
Segregation
Dispensation
Isolation
Exploitation
Mutilation
Mutations
Miscreation
Confirmation...to the evils of the world

Theyve been spending most their lives
Living in a future paradise
Theyve been spending most their lives
Living in a future paradise
Theyve been looking in their minds
For the day that sorrows gone from time
They keep telling of the day
When the savior of love will come to stay

Tell me who of them will come to be
How many of them are you and me
Proclamation
Of race relations
Consolation
Integretion
Verification
Of revelations
Acclamation
World salvation
Vibrations
Stimulation
Confirmation...to the peace of the world

Theyve been spending most their lives
Living in a pastime paradise
Theyve been spending most their lives
Living in a pastime paradise
Theyve been spending most their lives
Living in a future paradise
Theyve been spending most their lives
Living in a future paradise
Weve been spending too much of our lives
Living in a pastime paradise

Lets start living our lives
Living for the future paradise
Praise to our lives
Living for the future paradise
Shame to anyones lives
Living in the pastime paradise
 
2008-10-09 06:49:11 PM  

BigDumbGuy: jerry2a: Wasn't that a bad song from the 80's?

A-mish Par-a-dise! We're something something something something something....

Weird Al Yankovic's take on the rap song "Gangster Paradise."


Which was a clone from Stevie Wonder's "Pastime Paradise."
 
2008-10-09 06:52:55 PM  
What are the Amish doing on a bus?
 
2008-10-09 06:56:58 PM  
bobbette: What are the Amish doing on a bus?

They are allowed to travel in motor vehicles, just cannot drive them. They also have weird rules such as you can have a phone on the property but not in the house (to call people to drive them into town, etc.), and they can have gasoline powered farm implements, but they must be horse drawn. I'm not sure why I know this.
 
2008-10-09 07:02:19 PM  
What if one of them needed a defibrillator?
 
2008-10-09 07:29:20 PM  
As far as I understand, Amish are allowed to have 'techy' things to make their lives safer and healthier, but not easier.

We get Amish families into the office to get their eyes checked for glasses or to have some genetic disorder (go figure) looked after. Office policy is to have their appointments no later in the week than Tuesday, as bath day is most often Saturday. :)
 
2008-10-09 07:58:26 PM  

Vici: Amish are allowed to have 'techy' things to make their lives safer and healthier, but not easier.

We get Amish families into the office to get their eyes checked for glasses


Wouldn't better eyesight make their lives easier? And isn't easier to live when you don't have to worry about your health or safety?
 
2008-10-09 08:44:54 PM  

jerry2a: Wasn't that a bad song from the 80's?

A-mish Par-a-dise! We're something something something something something....


If 1996 is the 80s and Weird Al Yankovic makes bad songs, then yes.
 
2008-10-09 08:45:13 PM  
this is why the Amish should not be driving
 
2008-10-09 08:46:35 PM  
jaylectricity: Vici: Amish are allowed to have 'techy' things to make their lives safer and healthier, but not easier.

We get Amish families into the office to get their eyes checked for glasses

Wouldn't better eyesight make their lives easier? And isn't easier to live when you don't have to worry about your health or safety?


A better description would be "nothing for the sake of convenience". You could argue that glasses are a convenience, but only if you've never needed glasses.
 
2008-10-09 08:49:46 PM  
Noticeably F.A.T.: A better description would be "nothing for the sake of convenience". You could argue that glasses are a convenience, but only if you've never needed glasses.

Except for those gas powered tillers I saw them using. Yeah, they were pulled along by horses, but still gas powered.
 
2008-10-09 08:51:01 PM  
images1.wikia.nocookie.net

Think youre really righteous?
Think youre pure in heart?
Well, I know Im a million time as humble as thou art
Im the pious guy the little amlettes wanna be like
On my knees day and night scorin points for the afterlife
So dont be vain and dont be whiny
Or else, my brother, I might have to get medieval on your heinie
 
2008-10-09 08:52:13 PM  

jaylectricity: Vici: Amish are allowed to have 'techy' things to make their lives safer and healthier, but not easier.

We get Amish families into the office to get their eyes checked for glasses

Wouldn't better eyesight make their lives easier? And isn't easier to live when you don't have to worry about your health or safety?


This is going to sound worse than I mean it. But dude, you're asking for rationality and logical consistency from a religious sect that's determined to party like it's 1799.

It's the Amish. They don't bother anyone; they keep to themselves, work hard, and are good, decent people. Let them have their rituals and rules, however wacky they may seem. Save your post-enlightenment furor for the evangelicals.

/white knighting for people who won't ever know it
 
2008-10-09 08:52:28 PM  
A local boy kicked me in the butt last week (so I'm really getting a kick...)
 
2008-10-09 08:53:15 PM  
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2008-10-09 08:55:25 PM  

Jubeebee: jaylectricity: Vici: Amish are allowed to have 'techy' things to make their lives safer and healthier, but not easier.

We get Amish families into the office to get their eyes checked for glasses

Wouldn't better eyesight make their lives easier? And isn't easier to live when you don't have to worry about your health or safety?

This is going to sound worse than I mean it. But dude, you're asking for rationality and logical consistency from a religious sect that's determined to party like it's 1799.

It's the Amish. They don't bother anyone; they keep to themselves, work hard, and are good, decent people. Let them have their rituals and rules, however wacky they may seem. Save your post-enlightenment furor for the evangelicals.

/white knighting for people who won't ever know it


Hey! I resent that! I just happen to be Amish and I'm hacking your gmail in retaliation at this very moment!
 
2008-10-09 08:55:41 PM  
Glasses are a necessity. I don't get Amish patients in my office, but I do get a lot of people from around the world who have been placed in East Lansing by the U.N. (you wouldn't believe how multicultural it is around here).

Anyway, I wouldn't call eye care "convenient" -- If you can't see, you're in danger. If you can't see, you can't tend the cows, raise the barn, or read the Bible... So the Amish would probably have no problem with basic glasses.

I can't picture doing a contact lens class with an Amish patient, though.

At least they speak English, though. Try explaining anything to a patient who speaks only Turkish, Russian, Farsi, Korean, etc. To their credit, a lot of the people from other nations do learn some English, but many struggle with it.

/It also makes it hard to flirt with them.
//No, not the Amish. I don't see any Amish here.
 
2008-10-09 08:56:07 PM  

jaylectricity: What if one of them needed a defibrillator?


Well, Jehovah's Witnesses won't take a blood transfusion even if it will save their life; even if their kid is dying and needs one to live it's still not allowed. So I would guess an Amish might pray to God to deliver a freak lightning bolt to jump-start that heart, but keep the infernal mechanical heart machine away please!
 
2008-10-09 09:00:53 PM  

simpsonfan: "Who knows more about electricity than the Amish"-Homer Simpson.


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2008-10-09 09:03:34 PM  
"The Amish families are from a church in Mt. Pleasant area, according to police, who did not immediately know where the group was headed."

That, my friends, is what you call a red flag.

i141.photobucket.com
 
2008-10-09 09:06:22 PM  
Geez. They're just plain and simple guys, living in an Amish paradise.
 
2008-10-09 09:10:15 PM  
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2008-10-09 09:10:25 PM  

bobbette: What are the Amish doing on a bus?


I've seen them riding in a bus or car. Never driving. Can't explain that.

jaylectricity: What if one of them needed a defibrillator?


They're screwed.
 
2008-10-09 09:11:42 PM  
I love this headline. At first, after reading the second sentence, I was wondering why subby repeated Amish Paradise again, then as soon as I finished that sentence it hit me...and I reread the headline with the beat of the song.
 
2008-10-09 09:12:42 PM  

shinji3i: simpsonfan: "Who knows more about electricity than the Amish"-Homer Simpson.
Picture of Electric Amish


Orange triangles, orange triangles, all through Nappanee. Orange triangles, orange triangles the speed limit is three.

/I know Graeber
//He's a ton skinnier now.
 
2008-10-09 09:13:26 PM  

G3 Power: jaylectricity: What if one of them needed a defibrillator?

Well, Jehovah's Witnesses won't take a blood transfusion even if it will save their life; even if their kid is dying and needs one to live it's still not allowed. So I would guess an Amish might pray to God to deliver a freak lightning bolt to jump-start that heart, but keep the infernal mechanical heart machine away please!


I don't want to be saved from natural causes. If I have a heart attack I don't want to be saved. If I get injured in an accident I only want to save my ambulatory conditions...don't save me for the purpose of making me a vegetable.
 
2008-10-09 09:15:04 PM  

iamrobot: Hey! I resent that! I just happen to be Amish and I'm hacking your gmail in retaliation at this very moment!



Are you doing it from an Amish Laptop?

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Jubeebee: It's the Amish. They don't bother anyone; they keep to themselves, work hard, and are good, decent people. Let them have their rituals and rules, however wacky they may seem. Save your post-enlightenment furor for the evangelicals.

/white knighting for people who won't ever know it


If an adult wants to turn his back on some parts of the modern world and live in an isolated community, well, then, whatever floats your boat.


But I have really mixed feelings about the Amish imposing such a lifestyle on their kids.

On one hand, who am I to say how people should raise their kids, so long as they're not being clearly abused. On the other hand... how many of today's Amish would actually choose that sort of life if they hadn't been indoctrinated from birth in the belief that living a needlessly difficult, sexually repressed and boring life is the only way to avoid an eternity of torture in the afterlife?



/Weird Al RAWKS!!!
//I hate Sauerkraut

 
2008-10-09 09:22:31 PM  

jaylectricity: I don't want to be saved from natural causes. If I have a heart attack I don't want to be saved. If I get injured in an accident I only want to save my ambulatory conditions...don't save me for the purpose of making me a vegetable.


Uh, just a note, I know a few people that have had a heart attack and been resuscitated to go on and live very good lives. Some even had improvements later after their wake-up call and changed some of their self-destructive ways. You can make a living will that gets you unplugged, but I personally wouldn't give up after just the first death. That's pussy!
 
2008-10-09 09:25:08 PM  

Riche:
But I have really mixed feelings about the Amish imposing such a lifestyle on their kids.

On one hand, who am I to say how people should raise their kids, so long as they're not being clearly abused. On the other hand... how many of today's Amish would actually choose that sort of life if they hadn't been indoctrinated from birth in the belief that living a needlessly difficult, sexually repressed and boring life is the only way to avoid an eternity of torture in the afterlife?

/Weird Al RAWKS!!!
//I hate Sauerkraut


Personally I am starting to wish I had been "indoctrinated" as an amish, the upcoming depression probably would not be so bad.
 
2008-10-09 09:27:18 PM  
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Amish pair 'o dice?
 
2008-10-09 09:30:27 PM  

trappedspirit: jaylectricity: I don't want to be saved from natural causes. If I have a heart attack I don't want to be saved. If I get injured in an accident I only want to save my ambulatory conditions...don't save me for the purpose of making me a vegetable.

Uh, just a note, I know a few people that have had a heart attack and been resuscitated to go on and live very good lives. Some even had improvements later after their wake-up call and changed some of their self-destructive ways. You can make a living will that gets you unplugged, but I personally wouldn't give up after just the first death. That's pussy!



THIS



It's been three years since my heart attack. I called the paramedics early enough that there was no significant damage. The doc crammed a stint in one of my heart arteries and a few days later I was out of the hospital, better than new.

Three good, active, fun years.



/did the treadmill run test last week.
//looking good.
 
GCD
2008-10-09 09:30:52 PM  

50mm: BigDumbGuy: Which was a clone from Stevie Wonder's "Pastime Paradise."


Actually, it was a clone of Coolio's "Gangsta's Paradise" which was a clone of Steve Wonder's "Pastime Paradise".

/Weird Al only covers Top 40 songs
 
2008-10-09 09:37:28 PM  

TehNacho:

Personally I am starting to wish I had been "indoctrinated" as an amish, the upcoming depression probably would not be so bad.


Yeah, I've thought about that. A major financial collapse or nuclear war would probably be relatively good times to be Amish.

At least until your peaceful little community gets overrun by hordes of starving survivors and/or zombie mutants.


/I don't think the Amish are heavily armed.
//I could be wrong-- an AK-47 doesn't need electricity.
 
2008-10-09 09:40:37 PM  

Riche: /I don't think the Amish are heavily armed.
//I could be wrong-- an AK-47 doesn't need electricity.


That's right, my friend. You had better rethink that. Can burn candles ~ can burn powder
 
2008-10-09 09:41:43 PM  
Headline wins, subby
 
2008-10-09 09:43:51 PM  
TehNacho: Personally I am starting to wish I had been "indoctrinated" as an amish, the upcoming depression probably would not be so bad.fark it, the amish are probably going to weather any economic downturn without missing a beat. The advantages of living an incredibly simple life.
 
2008-10-09 09:45:50 PM  
GCD: 50mm: BigDumbGuy: Which was a clone from Stevie Wonder's "Pastime Paradise."

Actually, it was a clone of Coolio's "Gangsta's Paradise" which was a clone of Steve Wonder's "Pastime Paradise".

/Weird Al only covers Top 40 songs


Whatever. I tend to not pay any attention to pop culture.
 
2008-10-09 09:46:06 PM  

Riche: trappedspirit: jaylectricity: I don't want to be saved from natural causes. If I have a heart attack I don't want to be saved. If I get injured in an accident I only want to save my ambulatory conditions...don't save me for the purpose of making me a vegetable.

Uh, just a note, I know a few people that have had a heart attack and been resuscitated to go on and live very good lives. Some even had improvements later after their wake-up call and changed some of their self-destructive ways. You can make a living will that gets you unplugged, but I personally wouldn't give up after just the first death. That's pussy!


THIS

It's been three years since my heart attack. I called the paramedics early enough that there was no significant damage. The doc crammed a stint in one of my heart arteries and a few days later I was out of the hospital, better than new.

Three good, active, fun years.

/did the treadmill run test last week.
//looking good.


Good for you. Heart attacks are always scary, no matter how 'minor'.
 
2008-10-09 09:47:22 PM  

Riche: If an adult wants to turn his back on some parts of the modern world and live in an isolated community, well, then, whatever floats your boat.


But I have really mixed feelings about the Amish imposing such a lifestyle on their kids.

On one hand, who am I to say how people should raise their kids, so long as they're not being clearly abused. On the other hand... how many of today's Amish would actually choose that sort of life if they hadn't been indoctrinated from birth in the belief that living a needlessly difficult, sexually repressed and boring life is the only way to avoid an eternity of torture in the afterlife?


Maybe someone else has brought it up; I wasn't really paying attention. But in most Amish communities, when the kids are ready to become adults in the community (around 16 years old I think) they're usually required to go out into the bigger world and see how 'normal' people live. They can then choose whether or not to come back. Some don't.

Maybe you can argue that a lot of them only come back because they're been indoctrinated, but it seems to me that's as good of a choice as you can expect. It seems a lot worse to, I don't know, take the kids away from the community earlier in their life.
 
2008-10-09 10:22:13 PM  
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/nice one subby
 
2008-10-09 10:23:54 PM  

trappedspirit: You can make a living will that gets you unplugged, but I personally wouldn't give up after just the first death. That's pussy!


If you're promising me some pussy, I might have to agree.
 
2008-10-09 10:30:57 PM  

jaylectricity: trappedspirit: You can make a living will that gets you unplugged, but I personally wouldn't give up after just the first death. That's pussy!

If you're promising me some pussy, I might have to agree.


Ah, caveat emptor
 
2008-10-09 11:54:39 PM  
pdkl95, shouldn't that be #27?
 
2008-10-10 12:01:45 AM  
Yeah, I haven't checked today but I'd bet the Amish are oblivious to the current economic crisis. They are allowed to hire motorized vehicles but not own or operate.

As far as their technology, they can use tech to make their lives better but the object is not to put anyone else out of work. Back in the 40s several Amish communities actually tried tractors but they found that one man with a tractor can farm far more land and for every additional 40 acres of land one man can farm, another Amish farmer is put out of business and has to move to town. The object of Amish life is to honor God by working. The ability to work is viewed as a gift from God and to shirk that is to display ingratitude to God for His gift.

I don't think I could live as they do and I have a disagreement with some of their religious views but I have a great deal of respect for the way they live their life.

Don't know whether you'd call it an honor, but I was witness to an accidental death of a young Amish man in a construction accident. They were building a barn for an "Englisher" who is a good friend of mine. We went to the funeral, fully expecting some kind of recrimination or questions about any culpability my friend may have had or, perhaps at least the occasional hostile glance. To the contrary, they expressed their sympathy to us for having to witness the horrible accident but thanked us for our efforts to save their son, brother, neighbor, friend. I've never felt so humbled. There was no anger, bitterness, no recriminations. They were saddened by their loss but harbored no ill will to anyone. Life goes on. This young man will forever be in their memory but as a treasured memory. I can't help but admire them. I've had several business dealings with them. I have never, ever had any reason to doubt their word for any reason. A friend of mine bought a horse from an Amish guy and the Amish pointed out faults that my friend didn't even notice. Pure honesty. On the othe hand, they are generally smart enough to not be taken advantage of.
 
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