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2002-12-31 01:38:44 PM
I hope you all can decipher my craptacular html... looks like I forgot to close every other bold tag.

I am teh suX0r at html
 
2002-12-31 01:41:15 PM
A_cure_for_gravity:

Sorry. Playing with the Swearmaster 3000 and I couldn't resist.
 
2002-12-31 01:41:19 PM
Heh, thank's for that Cardinal. Hopefully now he'll know we're onto him and he'll disappear forever...


No, actually scratch that - without Bevets, Fark threads on evolution would be considerably more dull ;)
 
2002-12-31 01:42:08 PM
VonEvilstein,

My brain's well along in the process of shutting down for the year, so I'm not going to try any involved arguments at this point (which at the moment would center around the "plenty of hard evidence" for Earth being billions of years old part), but I hope you can see where I would find "the rest just happens" as thoroughly noncompelling as how all the scientists find Bevets.

The conclusions that can be drawn from the evidence we have are quite enough for me.
And ultimately, that's all you can ask for, just so long as you're willing to look at new evidence as it comes along and ask, "Are these conclusions still valid in light of this new data?". Doesn't mean others are bad people for being harder to convince, though. And I'm not saying that you think they are, but some of those who are reading, apparently do.

Where I'm coming from on the science: I personally don't understand biochemistry in the slightest, but I do understand a little of genetics, and a fair bit more of probability. I also see instances on a daily basis of people (including me. Sometimes especially me) who are trying to be scientific and objective waste
lots of time by sticking to a hypothesis they come up with on the basis of early evidence, even after contradictory data has appeared.
 
2002-12-31 01:48:05 PM
I also see instances on a daily basis of people (including me. Sometimes especially me) who are trying to be scientific and objective waste lots of time by sticking to a hypothesis they come up with on the basis of early evidence, even after contradictory data has appeared.

Not to suggest that this necessarily applies more to people of one side of this argument or the other...
 
2002-12-31 01:49:11 PM
A_Cure_For_Gravity, probably not called for, but probably not far from the truth. ;)
 
2002-12-31 01:52:33 PM
Skizza, as I stated before on a previous thread, Bevets not showing up at evolution threads would be the final sign of the Apocalypse.
 
2002-12-31 02:05:18 PM
bravo, stile4aly, but I still can't masturbate to anything on this thread...
 
2002-12-31 02:10:29 PM
Magic - just a little note. The euphamism you're looking for is:

Don't Tell Mr. T.

 
2002-12-31 02:11:46 PM
(it's a play on the fark filter for D.T.M.T.)
 
2002-12-31 02:23:28 PM
Yodaman06: "the answer to this question is they didn't and they can't these changes and differences could have only come about as the creation of a more intelligent being... a being that already understood these processes and logics... that new that we need oxegyn to breathe and made it so that our environment recycles this resourse....that being is God...

the answer to the question is "we don't know". according to creationists like yourself however, "we don't know" = "god did it.". sorry bud that is flat out ignorance, plain and simple. you don't know, and you either don't care, or are too lazy to do any research and observation, or you are afraid of what the 'real' answer may be, so you just fall back to the crutch of "god did it."

many of the things that we know today were unknown in the past. what causes fire? god. what causes lightning? god. why do people get sick? god. if we were satisfied with these ignorant answers, we wouldnt have been able to find the real truth.

and that of course exposes a huge difference from science and religion: in science, "we dont know" = "time to do some research/experimentation/observation", while religion says "we dont know" = "god did it" = "no need for research/expermintation/observation" = "lets just be stupid and praise jebus/allah/zeus" = "our god is the best so lets kill others who dont agree with us".

you can remain ignorant and just say "god did it" to every question if you so choose. but realize that many of the things that let you live a better life (including medicine) were thanks to scientists who would not be satisfied by living a life of ignorance.
 
2002-12-31 02:42:03 PM
forgive my ignorance, euphamism? What's that?
 
2002-12-31 02:44:08 PM
now I gotta clean my keyboard again, this time it's vomit...
 
2002-12-31 02:47:48 PM
Bbcrackmonkey

Also, another good example of evolution can be found in humans themselves, specifically humans of different skin color.

Origin of Species: The Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life by Charles Darwin

Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilized races throughout the world. ~ Charles Darwin

Man in his wild condition seems to be in this respect almost as susceptible as his nearest allies, the anthropoid apes, which have never yet survived long, when removed from their native country. ~ Charles Darwin

At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace, the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes ... will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now, between the Negro or Australian and the gorilla. ~ Charles Darwin

The German Fuhrer, as I have consistently maintained, is an evolutionist; he has consciously sought to make the practice of Germany conform to the theory of evolution. ~ Arthur Keith

If Nature does not wish that weaker individuals should mate with the stronger, she wishes even less that a superior race should intermingle with an inferior one; because in such a case all her efforts, throughout hundreds of thousands of years, to establish an evolutionary higher stage of being, may thus be rendered futile. ~ Adolf Hitler
 
2002-12-31 02:48:17 PM
Fragman, the first link you posted wasn't that bad, my g/f gets off on that stuff sometimes (not from me), but that last one...words cannot even describe the disgustingness of that.
 
2002-12-31 02:49:05 PM
oh yeah, quoting Adolf Hitler. 'nuff said
 
2002-12-31 02:56:02 PM
The Bevets cut'n'paste bandwagon of ignorance rolls on....




btw... mods: please give fragman a telling off would you?

Thanks.
 
2002-12-31 03:00:23 PM
Godwin's Law has been invoked by Bevets.
This thread is now closed.
 
2002-12-31 03:00:50 PM
Godwin's law strikes after only 270ish posts... What a shock it's Bevets who invokes it.


There you have it from the horse's mouth... if you believe in the science of evolution then you're officially a Nazi.
 
2002-12-31 03:01:30 PM
LOL Grayman


Great minds think alike eh?
 
Rat
2002-12-31 03:02:00 PM
ok, I've figured it out...

those that believe/have convictions that evolution is sacred, won't change their minds

those that believe in an allmighty who has created us in his image, won't change their minds

hemmorrhoid cream is temporary relief, at best

/RAT
 
2002-12-31 03:02:20 PM
and besides, that quote has nothing to do with creationism vs evolution, all it does is support Hitler's views about an Arian race of super-beings.
 
2002-12-31 03:06:58 PM
Once again Bevets is operating under the theory that if somebody you admire says something stupid you are obligated to cut all ties with that person and his/her beliefs. Darwin was a racist-ooo, a European of the 19th century, what a shocker that is! Good thing Christians of the 21st century have abandoned that position **coughTrentLottcough**, eh?
Of course, that doesn't work with the flat Earth that the Bible describes, nor the conflicting genealogies of Jesus, nor the conflicting creation myths.

Bevets! Here's a better Hitler quote-
The Church's interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of to-day, in our fight against the Bolshevist culture, against an atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for the consciousness of a community in our national life, for the conquest of hatred and disunion between the classes, for the conquest of civil war and unrest, of strife and discord. These are not anti-Christian, these are Christian principles. Adolf Hitler, in a speech delivered at Koblenz, August 26, 1934.
 
2002-12-31 03:09:21 PM
Also, a thought that just struck, does Bevets' most recent post imply that he is racist?
 
2002-12-31 03:10:44 PM
Much as I hate to go down to Bevet's level of cutting and pasting Nazi statements in the interest of a particular point of view:

1 Samuel 15

1 Samuel said to Saul, "I am the one the LORD sent to anoint you king over his people Israel; so listen now to the message from the LORD.
2 This is what the LORD Almighty says: `I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt.
3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy [1] everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'"

Josh 10:10-27 With the help of the Lord, Joshua utterly destroys the Gibeonites.
Josh 10:28 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the people of Makkedah.
Josh 10:30 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Libnahites.
Josh 10:32-33 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the people of Lachish.
Josh 10:34-35 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Eglonites.
Josh 10:36-37 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Hebronites.
Josh 10:38-39 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Debirites.
Josh 10:40 (A summary statement.) "So Joshua defeated the whole land ...; he left none remaining, but destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded."

etc etc, I think you'll find the book that tells Bevet's what to think is as Nazi as anything else.
 
2002-12-31 03:11:35 PM
er, I meant:
euphemism.
eu·phe·mism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (yf-mzm) n.

The act or an example of substituting a mild, indirect, or vague term for one considered harsh, blunt, or offensive: "Euphemisms such as 'slumber room'... abound in the funeral business" (Jessica Mitford).

Instead of mentioning that it's difficult to MWORD, you can now just say...

Don't Tell Mr. T.
 
2002-12-31 03:14:54 PM
You guys are wasting time over something that may have happened millions of years ago. It doesn't matter. Live in the present.

If evolution is true, none of you should ever reproduce.
 
2002-12-31 03:16:46 PM
Oh, I wasn't being a smartass about the spelling, I honestly had no clue, and still don't of what it meant.

I feel like an idiot.

Oh well, at least I'm not Bevets...
 
2002-12-31 03:19:22 PM
Joshua: "You guys are wasting time over something that may have happened millions of years ago. It doesn't matter. Live in the present."

What are you talking about?

Evolution "happened" millions of years ago??? wtf???
 
2002-12-31 03:31:03 PM
I'm just pleased he credited some sources this time.

I think The Beve has mistaken Darwin's professional work and social views for scripture, which, once recorded, is taken by some as the Revealed Word.

I do not think most scientists would claim that Darwin's work should not be examined/could not be improved.

Scientific and social thinking, after all, Evolve. A baseline value of science is striving--having the courage and curiosity to examine ideas in light of evidence.

People who admire science are not required to believe that all useful thought was recorded 2000 years ago.

To quote Darrow, again: "The Bible is a book--it's a good book, but it's not the Only book."

and

"If the Allmighty gave us the power to think, is there any reason to believe he would not want us to use it?"
 
2002-12-31 03:31:14 PM
Skizza, don't you know? It happened once and stopped.

Or something.
 
2002-12-31 04:29:41 PM
Not that my post will be see so far down here, but thanks to whoever posted this for bringing it to my attention. I'll try to catch this tomorrow night.

And i've just got to say: Oooh, pretty font!
 
2002-12-31 04:58:16 PM
There is no proof or even vague evidence that the universe has a beginning. Contemplate the thought that the universe has always existed. Maybe there have been an infinite amount of big bangs and we are only studying the most recent one. There is no law or theory stating that the universe has to have a beginning or an end.

Very true! Further, I propose that the universe has absolutely always and forever existed. If there ever were a time that the universe did not exist, within its nonexistance there would not be the ability to detect its nonexistance.

A comprehensive analysis that builds a solid theoretical model of a universe without definition, shape, measure or rule still creates a universe, but with different constants (even a massless void existing nowhere has the atrribute of its potential to BE a universe, based on the fact that we're swimming in one right now).

Based on the progression of current theory, within 20 years we'll accept as truth:

1. The universe has always existed.
2. There are no constants, and everything - atomic masses, speed of light, etc. - is in flux.
3. I know nothing.
 
2002-12-31 05:55:48 PM
Bevets,

I think we all took you more seriously when you advanced your own ideas and arguments, instead of just quotes...the same quotes, rehashed over and over again. On top of that, we don't even give much credence to your quotes any more, given that you have a real penchant for distorting their meaning by presenting them out of context. How can we take you seriously?

You're capable of so much more--why not tell us what you *think*?

I'm seriously beginning to wonder if you have a collection of canned posts, ready to be invoked every time the topic of evolution comes up on Fark. I'm also wondering how hard it would be to dust off my perl books and write a Bevets-bot.
 
2002-12-31 06:11:50 PM
Crimethink, how about an ANTI-Bevets bot? An automated bot that spouts conflicting biblical/historical quotes right back at him? I'd pay good money to see bevets argue with a bot.
 
2002-12-31 06:17:22 PM
Bevets

Words cannot describe how sorry I am for you. Your ignorance and your inablilty to use basic reasoning is astonishing. I'm not sure if you are also Idiot4jesus but it blows my mind how both of you would even try to talk about evolution as if it was some great evil.

I will have to admit that I've never studied creationism in any great detail so I'm not aware of all the great creationist literature but I get the impression that Hitler is widely mentioned. If I'm wrong and if you both did come to this conclusion then I think the educational system has failed the both of you. I do hope that the both of you are still going to school so that one day you may learn how to properly articulate your views (which we are all entitled to) without sounding like a complete ... Well I'm hoping you have enough education to finish that sentence. If not, I'm pretty sure their is somebody in this thread that can cut and paste the possible answers for you.

I'm know that I will not be able to convince you that creationism is a fallacy but what I will do for you is explain to you why you should never ever try to use Hitler as example when arguing about evolution to save yourself from sounding like an complete ....

As I have explained in another thread, evolution in a nutshell is a theory that tries to explain why our world and the universe is the way that it is. Currently it doesn't explain every freaking little miniscue detail but that is because we are still learning and we are constantly finding more examples to back up this theory. An example would be that scientist have discovered amino acids in space, which is a building block for life. This might not be a smoking gun but it's further proof that evolution is a viable explanation for life.

You brilliantly cut and pasted this quote:
The German Fuhrer, as I have consistently maintained, is an evolutionist; he has consciously sought to make the practice of Germany conform to the theory of evolution. ~ Arthur Keith

I want you to spend a few minutes thinking about how this quote has absolutely nothing to do with evolution being evil. It might be tough since Hitler and evolution is mentioned in the same sentence but give it a try.

Do you give up?

Well the answer is Author Keith doesn't know what the fark he is talking about. he has consciously sought to make the practice of Germany conform to the theory of evolution. WTF is he talking about. You can't conform to the theory of evolution. Evolution is just an explanation of what is going on as I explained early. Just because Hitler believes that the aryan race is superior doesn't make is true. Just because evolution is about the survival of the fittest doesn't mean if somebody claims to be the fittest, that is true. Only time can tell.

Bbcrackmonkey made a very good point about how evolution explains can explain why the human race is so diverse and you go off and quote nonsense. By doing this you just show us how ignorant you are to reasoning and critical thinking. Haven't you ever wondered why we are so diverse and why these diversity tend to be more concentrated to certain geographical locations. Yes I know you can argue that it is God's will to scatter people here and there but I find this too easy of an answer. Let me try to explain to you why we are as diverse as we are using evolution.

Have you ever wondered why Eskimo have slanted eyes. Well the reason for this is if they didn't have this trait they would be easily blinded by the sun's reflectin off the ice and snow. It's the reason why we squint when it's really bright. I'm pretty sure there were people in the icy tundra that had round eyes but they wouldn't function very well since they would be constantly squinting.

Have you ever wondered why Black people who are predominately from Africa which is extremely hot and bright tends to taller and are darker in skin color. Well the reason for this is their darker skin tone limits their chances of developing skin cancer or melatonim (sp). And the reason why they tend to be taller is all about surface area. The more surface area that you have, the cooler you can stay through perspiration. Yes it is possible that there could have been lighter skinned colored people in African way back when but they probably would have developed skin cancer and died off.

I can over all the races but I think get the picture.

So as you can see, logical reasoning can go a long way and I hope you develop this mantra as it will make you sound less of an .....
 
2002-12-31 06:48:09 PM
Evolution for the most part is subtle and occurs incrementally,so it is very hard to prove it as a fact.
I think a good example of what I call "forced evolution" is the modern day dog. Consider the concept of selective breeding and its results,which have lead to all the breeds that exist, and those that are under development even now.There are countless factors which affect and influence the evolution of a species,(many of the cats in my area have very short tails, which I can directly trace back to one particular male).If you watch the world around you very closely, you CAN see evolution happening right before your eyes,provided you understand what you are looking at.
 
2002-12-31 07:17:49 PM

In 250,000 years, the descendants of humans will have evolved highly efficient pheromone systems, extra mammaries, and multiple genitalia. Social and societal systems will be much more flexible. Technological advances will give every man, woman and child great wealth and limitless leisure.

Also in 250,000 years, cats will become extinct.

 
2002-12-31 07:53:38 PM
WE SHALL ALL BE EATEN BY OURSELVES WITHOUT KNOWING IT!!
 
2002-12-31 08:01:01 PM
In 250,000,000 years, your shnarflepod will want steak.
 
Tor
2003-01-01 02:54:46 AM
Heh, fragman almost got me with that link, but as soon as I saw the tip of a stream of brown liquid I ran the fark away.

Well, at least this time there's no morons like "Psycho-Jay(jim,jake,whatever)" spouting off bullshiat about how humans will be harvested by some godlike-being that took monkeys and evolved them unaturally, which explains why humans are so destructive. You know, because all animals have natural harmony with mother Gaia.

Nevermind that humans have no natural predators, and have the more intellignce than any creature on the planet (with the obvious exception of the Thetan Mind-Gamma-Radiant enegy synthesis solar arks)
 
2003-01-01 09:48:54 AM
the evolution adds material to our gene thing, that was funny. go read a freaking biology book.

about the guy who said that evolution occurs on the genetic level, i have something to add.

evolution works on the genetic level but manifested on the population level.

Simple example; in the beginning there were giraffes with short necks, mid-sized necks and long necks. suddenly, all the grass was gone or something which would prohibit giraffes from eating stuff at the ground. because giraffes eat plants, they'd all starve to death. but the long necks have another option. they can eat the leaves of trees! wow! all giraffes die except the one with long necks, their kids have long necks, whose kids have long necks and so on until we only have giraffes with long necks. wheres the magic shiat in that? how can that violate God's will or stuff like that? creationists are people who dont even try to understand the concept of evolution, are quick to find and misuse small isolated scientific views which aren't really taken seriously in the scientific community.


btw. I'm a Catholic.
btw. The Pope is an evolutionist (gasp!)
 
2003-01-01 10:08:36 AM
Dogdave

If you watch the world around you very closely, you CAN see evolution happening right before your eyes,provided you understand what you are looking at.

The opposite truth has been affirmed by innumerable cases of measurable evolution at this minimal scale-but, to be visible at all over so short a span, evolution must be far too rapid (and transient) to serve as the basis for major transformations in geological time. Hence, the "paradox of the visibly irrelevant"-or, if you can see it at all, it's too fast to matter in the long run. ~ Stephen Jay Gould

http://bevets.com/evolution.htm
 
2003-01-01 10:57:02 AM
Bevets, please, PLEASE, I beg of you, use your own words in your next post!

Oh, btw, Happy New Year everyone!

And I like Zebo's exclamation about how the world will end (yes, I meant exclemation, not explaination)
 
2003-01-01 10:58:54 AM
I can't read or write....
 
2003-01-01 11:21:48 AM
Bevets

The opposite truth has been affirmed by innumerable cases of measurable evolution at this minimal scale-but, to be visible at all over so short a span, evolution must be far too rapid (and transient) to serve as the basis for major transformations in geological time. Hence, the paradox of the visibly irrelevant-or, if you can see it at all, its too fast to matter in the long run. ~ Stephen Jay Gould

Gould was a proponent of punctuated equilibrium, and this quote seems consistent with his idea. I'm not sure if that's what you wanted the quote to mean. What do you think this quote means?

Could you fill me in with the rest of its context, and then paraphrase it in your own words? I would normally be inclined to search for your quotes on Google to examine what they *really* mean, but frankly, you can spout quotes faster than I can search Google. So, I'm not going to bother on this one. Life is too short.

When you post a quote, the burden is on *YOU* to explain its relevance and meaning, and we expect at least enough honesty from you to represent the context from which the quote is taken. In other words, the burden should not be on *US* to go on a wild goose chase to verify the quote's *REAL* meaning.
 
2003-01-01 12:48:17 PM
Bevets

Since you never responded to my post I'll assume that you agree that evolution is not evil and that it is just an explanation of what is going on. I hope that as one who believes so strongly in creationism that you will spread this fact to other creationist to save them from the humilation of making such an asinine claim. I also do hope that you can finally retire some of the quotes that you have used as you now have realized that they are irrelevant.

Evolution does not promote hatred, racism, etc but rather it is those who believe that they are superior without any proof (real proof, not some made up BS) that promote hatred.

I hope that from now on you stick with arguments that point out so called flaws in evolution, like "that is not possible since this happened" and etc, rather than quote nonsense that has absolutely nothing to do with evolution.
 
2003-01-01 02:50:26 PM
Crimethink

The opposite truth has been affirmed by innumerable cases of measurable evolution at this minimal scale-but, to be visible at all over so short a span, evolution must be far too rapid (and transient) to serve as the basis for major transformations in geological time. Hence, the ?paradox of the visibly irrelevant?-or, if you can see it at all, it?s too fast to matter in the long run. ~ Stephen Jay Gould

I would normally be inclined to search for your quotes on Google to examine what they *really* mean, but frankly, you can spout quotes faster than I can search Google. So, I'm not going to bother on this one. Life is too short.


You will find this quote in "The Paradox of the Visibly Irrelevant" Natural History December 1997 p.15. (The essay was reprinted in The Lying Stones of Marrakech) I am aware of Gould's tortured attempts to force genetics to conform to his field of expertise.

Johndoh

The German Fuhrer, as I have consistently maintained, is an evolutionist; he has consciously sought to make the practice of Germany conform to the theory of evolution. ~ Arthur Keith

I want you to spend a few minutes thinking about how this quote has absolutely nothing to do with evolution being evil. It might be tough since Hitler and evolution is mentioned in the same sentence but give it a try.

Do you give up?

Well the answer is Author Keith doesn't know what the fark he is talking about. he has consciously sought to make the practice of Germany conform to the theory of evolution. WTF is he talking about. You can't conform to the theory of evolution.


Sir Arthur Keith was an evolutionist when he made this comment. (He became a creationist on January 7, 1955) Genocide should be an expected consequence of Darwinian theory.

Of all the problems which will have to be faced in the future, in my opinion, the most difficult will be those concerning the treatment of the inferior races of mankind. ~ Leonard Darwin

The chief result of these Inquiries has been to elicit the religious significance of the doctrine of evolution. It suggests an alteration in our mental attitude, and imposes a new moral duty. The new mental attitude is one of a greater sense of moral freedom, responsibility, and opportunity; the new duty which is supposed to be exercised concurrently with, and not in opposition to the old ones upon which the social fabric depends, is an endeavor to further evolution, especially that of the human race. ~ Francis Galton
 
2003-01-01 04:27:16 PM
Bevets

If I had a webcam you would see me banging my head against my monitor.

Sir Arthur Keith was an evolutionist when he made this comment.

I'm going to stick to my orginal statement that he doesn't know what the fark he is talking about. The fact that he was an evolutionist (in his own mind and maybe to others) when he said this doesn't mean he speaks for everyone that believes in evolution. That's like me saying that you speak for all christians, which I know you dont'. I'm not sure if he was misquoted or if his quote was taken out of context because any man of intelligence wouldn't have said something that stupid if they trully understood evolution.

Genocide should be an expected consequence of Darwinian theory.

What the fark are you talking about. Evolution doesn't tell anybody to do anything. It just explains why bullies are bullies and why some people are able to survive in a certain environment when others or not. Who keeps telling you that evolution brainwashes you into doing something that man hasn't been doing to themselves and others for thousands of years without even the foggiest idea of what evolution is.

How can you even come to the conclusion that Genocide is an expected consequence of Darwin's theory. That's like saying genocide should be an expected consequence of gun powder. Genocide has occurred throughout the history of man kind way before Darwin ever came up with his theory. Genocide is the result of an ignorant mind and nothing more. To say that evolution is a catalyst for genocide is just the result of ignorance.

Of all the problems which will have to be faced in the future, in my opinion, the most difficult will be those concerning the treatment of the inferior races of mankind. ~ Leonard Darwin

I agree. Man can be extremely ignorant towards others who they feel are inferior to them. This is what we call racism. It happens everyday but luckily education is changing peoples attitude.

I can't really comment on Francis Galton's quote since I don't know what "these Inquiries" are. If you can point me to the source, I might be able to better understand this statement but from what I've read, I don't have any objections to what he says. His statement is rather intelligient and I don't quite understand why you posted that quote since it doesn't detract from my understanding of evolution. He is just saying that this is how evolution is going to affect the moral values of those who are religious and he goes on to praise evolution for bringing in a greater sense moral freedom, responsibility (I can't agree with this enough), and opportunity for those who are religious. He then goes on to say that religious people should not fear evolution as it doesn't work against their current moral values but rather it works beside it.

Since you like quotes so much, I'll give you one.

Genocide is not the result of evolution, but rather it is the result of an ignorant mind. ~ johndoh
 
2003-01-01 07:07:45 PM
Ever notice how people who don't believe in evolution look really unevolved themselves? "The Lawd made me in six days." Yeah, looks like he rushed it!


-- Bill Hicks
 
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