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2008-10-05 10:17:00 PM  
man, what a corny lawsuit.
 
2008-10-05 10:19:59 PM  
A Jewish truck driver? That doesn't sound very Jewish.

Richard Cleaveland is seeking damages of at least $100,000.


Well that's more like it.
 
2008-10-05 10:21:59 PM  
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2008-10-05 10:22:20 PM  
$100,000? Geez, that's a lot.

Maybe Frito-Lay can, you know, them him down a bit.
 
2008-10-05 10:35:52 PM  
The complaint contends that since making his request, Cleaveland has been subject to insults, jokes and been forced to observe other Christian traditions.shiat, I get forced to observe Christian traditions all the time. Why do you think our work weeks are Monday through Saturday? What's Thanksgiving about and why do we get it off work? Christmas? Yeah - most of us get that, too.

Porn is a crime because religious faiths find it objectionable. Blue laws keep businesses from competing with churches on Sundays. I can't get legally married because Christians define marriage for us - legally.

Get over it, asshat.
 
2008-10-05 10:35:58 PM  
I Said: $100,000? Geez, that's a lot.

Maybe Frito-Lay can, you know, them him down a bit.


LOL a lot.
 
2008-10-05 10:45:59 PM  
I didn't know Jews feared Christmas. I thought they just didn't celebrate the birth of Jesus.
It's not a Christmas tree anyway until it's been decorated and had an angel put on top. Until then it's just a tree.
 
2008-10-05 10:50:14 PM  
Part of being an American is having Christmas jammed down your throat for two months a year.
 
2008-10-05 11:06:53 PM  
WAAAAAAAAA, I don't wanna do the job I'm paid to do and I have eleventy billion lawyers in my family. I'm gonna do whatever I want and YOU'RE going to pay me....OR ELSE!
 
2008-10-05 11:24:22 PM  
How hauling pine trees might be an affront to faith is less important than the retaliation that followed, said Cleaveland's Salt Lake City attorney, P. Corper James.
i disagree
 
2008-10-05 11:31:38 PM  
sentex: Part of being an American is having Christmas jammed down your throat for two months a year.

Holy Fark - Where are you that Christmas starts after Halloween? Can I move there?

/local stores already putting out Xmas crap
 
2008-10-05 11:39:11 PM  
shanrick: img217.imageshack.us

Well played.
 
2008-10-06 12:14:35 AM  
lajimi: WAAAAAAAAA, I don't wanna do the job I'm paid to do and I have eleventy billion lawyers in my family. I'm gonna do whatever I want and YOU'RE going to pay me....OR ELSE!

The article says he was made to deliver Christmas trees. I doubt that was part of his job description when he was hired by Frito-Lay.
 
2008-10-06 12:49:28 AM  
namegoeshere: I Said: $100,000? Geez, that's a lot.

Maybe Frito-Lay can, you know, them him down a bit.

LOL a lot.


Actually, that was pretty damned funny ;)
 
2008-10-06 01:15:57 AM  
Bathia_Mapes:

The article says he was made to deliver Christmas trees. I doubt that was part of his job description when he was hired by Frito-Lay.

He is a truck driver. His job is to deliver shiat.
 
2008-10-06 01:18:18 AM  
People like this make baby jebus cry
 
2008-10-06 01:21:37 AM  
I don't want pine flavored potato chips.
 
2008-10-06 01:22:41 AM  
And then one day in December the teacher asked little Sherman to sing a Christmas Carol and little Johnny complained, "Sherman can't sing Christmas songs, he's Jewish, they don't have Christmas carols."and little Sherman said "yes we do: every Christmas Eve we close our family's store, look at the empty shelves, sing 'what a friend we have in Jesus'and fly the whole family to Los Cabos until New Years."
 
2008-10-06 01:23:37 AM  
Setsuna: Bathia_Mapes:

The article says he was made to deliver Christmas trees. I doubt that was part of his job description when he was hired by Frito-Lay.

He is a truck driver. His job is to deliver shiat.


Since when are Christmas trees a Frito-Lay product?
 
2008-10-06 01:25:13 AM  
Bathia_Mapes: lajimi: WAAAAAAAAA, I don't wanna do the job I'm paid to do and I have eleventy billion lawyers in my family. I'm gonna do whatever I want and YOU'RE going to pay me....OR ELSE!

The article says he was made to deliver Christmas trees. I doubt that was part of his job description when he was hired by Frito-Lay.


I bet it was those gaudy Christmas tree displays they toss out every holiday season.
 
2008-10-06 01:25:25 AM  
This guy's got a real chip on his shoulder.
 
2008-10-06 01:26:54 AM  
Were they oven crisped?

/DNRTFA
 
2008-10-06 01:27:21 AM  
If you have a religious objection to doing something, don't get a job doing it. I don't care if you're a christian pharmacist and have to dispense birth control, a muslim taxi driver who has to drive people with alcohol in their bags, or a jewish truck driver who has to deliver christmas trees. It's your job. Do it, or find a new job. It is not religious persecution when your boss makes you do your damn job.
 
2008-10-06 01:27:40 AM  
His complaints about 'jokes' and 'pay' are so vague that I'm pretty sure he's got nothing. Perhaps he does, but from what he's said here, he has no case. Being told to deliver Christmas trees, or just trees, or anything else, is not illegal. Refusing to do so is grounds for termination.

Even if you're Satanic, your boss can ask you to deliver stuff if you're a delivery driver. It is not participation in Christianity to deliver Christmas trees (not that Christmas trees have much to do with that religion in the first place).

If the employer didn't pay him, then yeah, he's got a case. But that's pretty unlikely. If he got some jokes, he might have a case, but we'll have to see... he's already a total asshole for being so intolerant as not being willing to drive a truck with trees in it.

what a horrible American. I mean that sincerely.
 
2008-10-06 01:28:13 AM  
Since when don't we respect people's religious beliefs. Corporations should not be allowed to belittle and dismiss people's beliefs, not matter how unorthodox they are. Everyone has the right to freely work without risk of fear or prejudice and corporations do not have the right to ignore that.
 
2008-10-06 01:28:22 AM  
Cleaveland has been subject to insults, jokes and been forced to observe other Christian traditions.

I didn't know that insults and jokes were necessarily Christian traditions.
 
2008-10-06 01:30:10 AM  
ultraholland: Cleaveland has been subject to insults, jokes and been forced to observe other Christian traditions.

I didn't know that insults and jokes were necessarily Christian traditions.


Give that man an internet.
 
2008-10-06 01:30:49 AM  
Bathia_Mapes:
Since when are Christmas trees a Frito-Lay product?


I guess I'll have to repeat myself. He is a TRUCK DRIVER. It doesn't matter what he's asked to deliver, his job is to deliver it. Unless there is a clause in his contract where it says he is to only deliver Frito Lays products, he shouldn't biatch.
 
2008-10-06 01:32:19 AM  
ultraholland: Cleaveland has been subject to insults, jokes and been forced to observe other Christian traditions.

I didn't know that insults and jokes were necessarily Christian traditions.


What do you think the Bible was?
 
2008-10-06 01:35:36 AM  
Oh also...My grandpa was a Shabbes goy in Bridgeport in the 19teens. He helped out the Jewish family next door by doing things they couldn't do for themselves on the Sabbath - lighting the stove and such, IIRC. They paid him, too. And fed him.

So I dunno about the tree thing. I don't think it'd have cut much ice 90 years ago.
 
2008-10-06 01:38:44 AM  
Aside from the fact that Frito-Lay's management are farking bastards, this guy is just going about it the wrong way.

To wit, he should turn it to his advantage. One of my best friends in high school, 40+ years ago, was Jewish and a member of the Key Club, the junior Kiwanis cult. As such, he was required to help man their Xmas tree sale lot. He did so, but made sure that the street sign referred to them as Hanukkah bushes.
 
2008-10-06 01:40:58 AM  
I will not deliver this ink, as it will be used to print Korans.
 
2008-10-06 01:42:30 AM  
The only drawback to hauling a load of Christmas trees is that it would have to be loaded and unloaded by hand, which would take hours. THAT'S why the guy didn't want the load; he didn't want to be stuck waiting for hours without getting paid (or having to help unload it himself).

His religion doesn't have anything to do with it; he's just a lazy jackass, and his coworkers are laughing at him for trying to cover it up with some stupid "religious" excuse.

"I can't do this job. It's against my religion. I'm a Jew, you see."

I'd laugh, too.
 
2008-10-06 01:43:28 AM  
I tried to find a picture of Frito Pendejo to hotlink, but I guess he really IS unavailable for comment.
 
2008-10-06 01:44:31 AM  
Cleaveland has been subject to insults, jokes and been forced to observe other Christian traditions.

urie.files.wordpress.com

/Why did I have to be the one to post this.
//If the company pays me by the hour, I can ignore the reason.
 
2008-10-06 01:45:46 AM  
New goal in life:
1. Become a successful attorney.
2. Become a successful DA.
3. Become a Superior Court judge handling discrimination cases.
4. When confronted with cases like this, listen carefully to both sides, then turn to the plaintiff and say:
"You know, things offend me every day too. DEAL WITH IT." BANG! "Case dismissed!"

I mean, this is so getting out of hand. "Delivering Xmas trees offends my Jewish faith." Holy mother of Amaterasu. Xmas trees are pagan!
 
2008-10-06 01:46:30 AM  
Awww Jeezus.
 
2008-10-06 01:47:08 AM  
Staypuft_Mushmallow_Manz: Frito Pendejo

You really hate Fritos, don't you? XD
 
2008-10-06 01:47:44 AM  
This will probably be thrown out. However, Frito-Lays might settle since it will cost them 50 grand for the trail with the lawyers and all that...
 
2008-10-06 01:49:56 AM  
Fark needs a Utah tag.
 
2008-10-06 01:51:27 AM  
Wulfhardt: Staypuft_Mushmallow_Manz: Frito Pendejo

You really hate Fritos, don't you? XD


Link (new window)
there's a character in that movie who's really named frito pendejo.
 
2008-10-06 01:54:05 AM  
I guess he's not aware that bringing a tree in the house around Yule, decorating it and exchanging gifts is a very old pagan/heathen tradition.

Man up and haul that cheap, Frito-Lay displayin' heathen shrubbery!
 
2008-10-06 01:55:11 AM  
helsdottir: I guess he's not aware that bringing a tree in the house around Yule, decorating it and exchanging gifts is a very old pagan/heathen tradition.

Man up and haul that cheap, Frito-Lay displayin' heathen shrubbery!


Pagan things are no more or less likely to offend a jew than christian things. it's still decidedly un-jewish
 
2008-10-06 01:55:31 AM  
Jesus was a Jew and a rabbi.

Christmas trees are a relic of a Teutonic pagan ritual.

Shut up and drop off the trees.
 
2008-10-06 01:59:11 AM  
Chester Cheetah better watch his ass; he's liable to end up on a crucifix.
 
2008-10-06 01:59:36 AM  
Bathia_Mapes: Setsuna: Bathia_Mapes:

The article says he was made to deliver Christmas trees. I doubt that was part of his job description when he was hired by Frito-Lay.

He is a truck driver. His job is to deliver shiat.

Since when are Christmas trees a Frito-Lay product?


FINALLY someone asks the pertinent question. Frito Lay? Christmas trees? Huh?
 
2008-10-06 02:02:17 AM  
Gyrfalcon: New goal in life:
1. Become a successful attorney.
2. Become a successful DA.
3. Become a Superior Court judge handling discrimination cases.
4. When confronted with cases like this, listen carefully to both sides, then turn to the plaintiff and say:
"You know, things offend me every day too. DEAL WITH IT." BANG! "Case dismissed!"

I mean, this is so getting out of hand. "Delivering Xmas trees offends my Jewish faith." Holy mother of Amaterasu. Xmas trees are pagan!


FTFY
 
2008-10-06 02:03:13 AM  
They are just trees. They have no significance, religious or otherwise, until those that receive them perform some sort of "decorating ritual". Then it becomes a Christmas tree.

so STFU and GBTW and DTT

/Everyone seems to be looking for that money grab.
 
2008-10-06 02:04:39 AM  
Staypuft_Mushmallow_Manz: helsdottir: I guess he's not aware that bringing a tree in the house around Yule, decorating it and exchanging gifts is a very old pagan/heathen tradition.

Man up and haul that cheap, Frito-Lay displayin' heathen shrubbery!

Pagan things are no more or less likely to offend a jew than christian things. it's still decidedly un-jewish


Jews are only allowed to do Jewish things? Wow, that would suck. I'd hate to be limited to only doing Heathen things.
 
2008-10-06 02:07:30 AM  
Bathia_Mapes: lajimi: WAAAAAAAAA, I don't wanna do the job I'm paid to do and I have eleventy billion lawyers in my family. I'm gonna do whatever I want and YOU'RE going to pay me....OR ELSE!

The article says he was made to deliver Christmas trees. I doubt that was part of his job description when he was hired by Frito-Lay.


My guess is....His job is to do whatever his boss TELLS him to do. If he doesn't like it go open a deli of a jewelry store, be your own boss.
 
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