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(Mtn. Democrat)   The look at a U.S. Forest Service nursery and the millions of trees is produces to plant around the country.   ( ) divider line 55
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2002-12-29 05:59:04 PM  
may i be the first to say...

2002-12-29 05:59:49 PM  
Can we get a translator for that headline?
2002-12-29 06:00:04 PM  
2002-12-29 06:01:21 PM  
ive had more fun staring at a pot of coffee, no really!
2002-12-29 06:04:35 PM  
Me fail English? That's unpossible! ;)
2002-12-29 06:06:50 PM  
"is produces"? Spellcheck on isle fark!
2002-12-29 06:06:55 PM  
This is all well and good. But in a few years all of our forests will be transferred to orbiting freighters anyway. And they will eventually be jettisoned and destroyed by nuclear detonators.

/Gotta watch less sci-fi...
2002-12-29 06:09:44 PM  
Oh I get it.
2002-12-29 06:10:00 PM  
i'm not even going to read an article with fark headline like that...
2002-12-29 06:13:58 PM  
Those trees don't make "forests." They make tree farms. If you visit one example of each, the difference is easy to see.

2002-12-29 06:17:52 PM  
Bah, if you want trees, just move to Oregon. There's way too many of those farkers there. Germany is just as bad (At least in the southern reigons)
2002-12-29 06:18:01 PM  
From the article:

A new greenhouse, fully equipped with a heating and cooling system as well as lights, is being constructed at the nursery.

"The new greenhouse will allow us to grow plants during the colder months and get them ready sooner in the year," said Trimble.

Maybe someone was high and thought "Whoa, think of all the pot someone could grow with that", and then submitted this in a pot daze?

Might explain the headline, too.

Everything's funny on pot...
2002-12-29 06:19:06 PM  
I got nuttin.

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Photoshop with no voting? Lame. ;)
2002-12-29 06:25:55 PM  
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If you don't recognize the benefits of trees, then you're a complete and total dumbass.
2002-12-29 06:33:40 PM  
"Spellcheck on isle fark!"


isle: island
aisle: like at a grocery store.

your welcome.
2002-12-29 06:35:37 PM  
So, the government hired new firefighters to try and prevent extensive damage to national forests in the first place, and then had the foresight to fund this really incredible greenhouse to help restore the forest they couldn't save?

I kind of like that. Hey, a government policy that makes sense to me!

Did anyone catch that some of these seeds are 40 years old? They're like the Noah's Ark of California's forests....
2002-12-29 06:38:10 PM  
If you don't recognize the benefits of trees, then you're a complete and total dumbass.

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2002-12-29 06:38:53 PM  
This is just adding to the "greenhouse effect".
2002-12-29 06:39:26 PM  
It has been said that there are more trees growing in the US than there were when the Mayflower arrived.
2002-12-29 06:42:02 PM  
I'm sorry, but "your welcome" while you're spell checking someone? Can't we just all agree that typos and such just happen sometimes? I mean that very sweetly....
2002-12-29 06:45:01 PM  
Oh man, I love it when someone correcting someone else's grammar/spelling makes a mistake themself. Keep the chain going, this is beautiful.

*wipes a tear*
2002-12-29 06:45:39 PM  

That's very true in many areas. Fire supression has allowed more trees to grow than would occur in a natural forest. Most forests, at least, in the lower 48 are already very "unnatural" even if there's never been logging there.
2002-12-29 06:48:58 PM  
So...are "unnatural" forests a bad thing, then?
2002-12-29 06:49:41 PM  
MY welcome? YOUR welcome? Who owns this WELCOME?

Thank you!
You're welcome!

Ahh propah spalling n grammar be a lost art in thie here blog
2002-12-29 07:29:12 PM  
thie here blog

You're either very funny, or very hypocritical.
2002-12-29 07:34:32 PM  
There are more acres of forest in America now than in 1910.
2002-12-29 07:34:41 PM  
Is is producing there trees. Not the trees that wood have produced but the other trees that are good for you. Then their will be happy trees for all the people.
2002-12-29 07:37:43 PM  
You're either very funny, or very hypocritical.

You didn't spell anything wrong! Now I can't correct you, while at the same time making a mistake of my own. The chain has been broken.
2002-12-29 07:48:30 PM  
2000 forest fires destroy millions of acres, clinton budgets for millions of trees to be replanted and better means to protect them.
2002 forest fires destroy millions of acres, Bush pockets millions of dollars and opens remain forest to timber industry
2002-12-29 07:55:15 PM  
You're either very funny, or very hypocritical.

You didn't spell anything wrong! Now I can't correct you, while at the same time making a mistake of my own. The chain has been broken.

Is that comma after 'funny' needed or can the 'or' do the job alone?
2002-12-29 07:56:06 PM  
FatherG, HolyoaK, Chilly Willie, very funny stuff.
2002-12-29 08:13:01 PM  
2002 forest fires destroy millions of acres, Bush pockets millions of dollars

Got the bank statements or receipts to prove this?

and opens remain forest to timber industry

Do you know what selective cutting and/or tree thinning is and where is this "remain" forest?
2002-12-29 08:38:06 PM  
Is it me or are the headlines really, really bad tonight. I mean come on. There has got to be something a little better than a topic on farking TREES!
2002-12-29 08:43:33 PM  

There are more acres of forest in America now than in 1910.

Please cite your sources.
2002-12-29 08:54:27 PM  
"Please cite your sources."

I've heard this exact thing before. The source: Rush Limbaugh...
2002-12-29 08:59:09 PM  
Right. Rush Limbaugh. But I'm looking for STATISTICAL data collected somewhere from some expert, not some conservative blowhard.
2002-12-29 09:01:14 PM  
Between 1600 and 1920, 13 percent of the land area (29 percent of the forested area) was gradually lost due to clearing for agriculture and towns. Most of this clearing occurred between 1850 and 1910, and by far the largest part was cleared for farming. Cities actually occupy a very small percentage of the total land area.

Today the United States has about the same area of forestland as it did in 1920, even though there has been a 143 percent increase in population between then and today. There are two main reasons why the area of land in crops has remained stable since 1920.

The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization's (FAO) State of the World's Forests 2001 reports that North American forest cover expanded nearly 10 million acres (4 million hectares) over the last decade.


What this doesn't take into account is the almost complete loss of old growth forests, ant the fact that a lot of the forests have only basic ecosystems from constant logging, essentially most of our forests are tree farms. Aread like Yellowstone, Yosemite, and California's dwindling redwood forests are a rarity.
2002-12-29 09:02:39 PM  
Whoops, these are the 2 main reasons that got cut off:

First, in 1910, about one-quarter of the land in crops was used to produce food for horses and other draft animals. The advent of the automobile made it possible to use that land to produce food for people instead. Second, advances in technology, chemistry and genetics have made it possible to produce much more food on the same amount of land.
2002-12-29 09:06:56 PM  
As you can see, using 1910 as a comparison date, you can completely misrepresent the truth without actually lying.
2002-12-29 09:10:52 PM  
Unfortunately, the US is actually doing a little better than the word as a whole, though we still have less old growth than most.

From the above link:

"During the rise of civilization, 40 percent of the forest cover that existed 5,000 years ago has been converted to farms and cities. Most of this deforestation has occurred during the past 200 years to grow the food for a rapidly rising population. Today, the picture looks something like this:

World's entire land base covers 13.1 billion hectares (32.8 billion acres)
World's forests cover 3.9 billion hectares (9.8 billion acres - or 29.6 percent of the land base)
Between 1980 and 1990 there was a net loss of 130 million hectares (325 million acres), or three percent of the world's total forest land. Between 1990 and 2000, the net loss of forest dropped to 90 million hectares (225 million acres), or 2.3 percent of the total area of forest.

In recent years, forests have been lost more rapidly in Africa and South America than on the other continents. New plantation forests have compensated for a reduction in natural forests in Asia. Forest areas in Europe have increased during the past 20 years. In North America, forest areas remained the same in Canada and increased slightly in the United States. Forest cover has decreased in Mexico and Central America.

The net loss in forest cover in recent decades is a result of high rates of deforestation in the tropical developing countries, mainly due to clearing for agriculture to feed a growing population. There has actually been a net increase in forest cover in the developed countries, including the U. S., during this period. Unfortunately the rate of deforestation in the developing countries is far higher than the rate of reforestation in the developed countries."
2002-12-29 09:32:33 PM  
Are you guys aware that in fundamentalist Islamic countries, people are taxed for every tree on their land?

Most poor people have no choice but to cut down all the trees on their land. Lebanon used to be covered with cedars. Now it's as bare and as stinky as yesterday's kitty litter box. Thank the muslims for that one.
2002-12-29 09:41:31 PM  
Coelacanth: No, i didn't know that. what's your source? That doesn't seem plausible, why ensure on dependance to foreign countries for building material?
2002-12-29 10:17:21 PM  
A friend of mine at work, Mohammed Islam from Bangladesh was my source.
2002-12-29 10:20:09 PM  
I would have thought that Cedar was chopped down just for the profit involved in selling what is now a rather rare wood. I've never heard the tree/muslim thing either.

Well, I vote for this link. Warm and fuzzy :) My local council ancourages us to plant fire-resistant trees (yes there are such things) near our houses to create a fire break that is still leafy and pretty - I wonder if the 'replacers' do the same thing. It's a great idea.

Careful -Mike Weath-, someone might decide to complain about you for cutting and pasting (lol). Some people are sad, aren't they ?
2002-12-29 11:03:09 PM  
I like this link too. At least somebody is getting something done.

We just take trees too much for granted.
2002-12-29 11:52:21 PM  
Most confusing headline....ever.
2002-12-30 02:17:41 AM  
It's a good thing our tax dollars are being spent on seedlings, which have been know to occur naturally for millions of years without help from our paychecks.
2002-12-30 03:30:15 AM  
First of all, the heading should say "the US Forest Service nursery" because this is the last one.

Second, how about all those chestnut trees? What? That's right, they were all destroyed because of human negligence. Those bastards!!

You'll have to excuse me. I just watched 6 episodes of South Park. I think I ODed. That is all.
2002-12-30 03:32:17 AM  
Stop your whining, MacG. So a scud missile will have to be built with one less bolt, big deal. :D
2002-12-30 04:26:31 AM  
How are you gentlemen!

All your Forestry Service are belong to us!
You have no chance to survive make your Tree.

For Great Justice.
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