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2008-10-04 02:32:38 PM  
Studson: whatshisname: Studson: Its not intended to be a troll dipshiat. Look at what is actually written, if I were trying to make an honest attempt at trolling I would have made it sound believable. I hate farking retarded people that cannot contemplate tongue-in-cheek. Think before you speak, its intended to be humorous, if you don't find it funny then make that exclamation and I'll concede but farking hell use that spongy thing inside your head!/rant over

Sorry, I'll amend my statement.

Lamest joke of the week.

I don't see you adding anything to the table other than critiques.

-1 for no creativity
You are the guy that can't think of anything to post cause nothing is working up there so you just right write some asinine statement regarding something someone else stated in an attempt to just fill space and rack up some post points.


FTFM
 
2008-10-04 02:33:10 PM  
Parker1227: These are the same foreigners, many of whom rolled over for Adolph Hitler and or Stalin, and who now are rolling over for Islamo-fascists - who are re-occupying Europe as we speak.

How anyone could vote for a man, Obama, who attended a racist, anti-semitic, anti-American, pro-Louis Farrakhan church for 20 years is really a scary thought.

Has the left actually succeeded in brainwashing a majority of the nation into hating America and what it stands for?


Because he's the lesser of two evils?:D
 
2008-10-04 02:33:32 PM  
When i was overseas backpacking in Europe, indeed people seemed to hate the US government but not necessarily the people themselves.

However,though i met some great people from the US i also met more than a few who weren't helping the stereotype. One guy i met told me he told everyone he was from Canada but when asked by someone what the capital was he said 'Quebec'. And then he apologized to me and said, 'I'm sorry, i know its Montreal'. Another girl thought the Australian in our room was convinced he had a 'Croatian' accent and kept asking why he was traveling from Croatia though he clearly sounded Australian. He wasn't amused.Things like this tend to stick in people's minds more than the good things, at least it did in mine.
 
2008-10-04 02:35:25 PM  
Darth Shatner: CitizenTed

...As the Czech student prepared to launch into his anti-Bush tirade, I interrupted him and explained that I voted for the other guys, not the NeoCon idiots currently in power...

Yet when a foreigner comes to America and we start ragging on their political leaders and telling them to their face how much we think they (their leaders) suck...we are the ugly ones.

Oh... And I can point out ass hat tourist from all over the world walking around like total D-bags. Americans have not cornered the market when it comes to their asshat ignorant tourists.


Just goes to show that Americans are nicer people, and much more tolerant than narrow minded Eurotrash. Buddy's sister visitted recently from New Zealand. Her kids were 7 and 10 years old. They could not read or write, they "had trouble with our letters". Yet somehow they hated Bush. I wonder how? The very thing foreigners accuse Americans of, they do twice as badly.
 
2008-10-04 02:35:25 PM  
Thunderpipes: Parker1227: These are the same foreigners, many of whom rolled over for Adolph Hitler and or Stalin, and who now are rolling over for Islamo-fascists - who are re-occupying Europe as we speak.

How anyone could vote for a man, Obama, who attended a racist, anti-semitic, anti-American, pro-Louis Farrakhan church for 20 years is really a scary thought.

Has the left actually succeeded in brainwashing a majority of the nation into hating America and what it stands for?

Yes. And I love how other countries are bending over backwards to accomodate Muslim hate speech and doing everything they can to appease their growing violent Muslim populations. A large chunk of Americans have been so coddled, so used to the incredible freedoms and benefits of growing up here, that they never have had to compete for anything. They demand more and more handouts. John Kennedy would be ashamed of the current generation. "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" would be political suicide to say now.


Lighten up, Francis. You'll get over it.
 
2008-10-04 02:36:14 PM  
jso2897: Thunderpipes: Parker1227: These are the same foreigners, many of whom rolled over for Adolph Hitler and or Stalin, and who now are rolling over for Islamo-fascists - who are re-occupying Europe as we speak.

How anyone could vote for a man, Obama, who attended a racist, anti-semitic, anti-American, pro-Louis Farrakhan church for 20 years is really a scary thought.

Has the left actually succeeded in brainwashing a majority of the nation into hating America and what it stands for?

Yes. And I love how other countries are bending over backwards to accomodate Muslim hate speech and doing everything they can to appease their growing violent Muslim populations. A large chunk of Americans have been so coddled, so used to the incredible freedoms and benefits of growing up here, that they never have had to compete for anything. They demand more and more handouts. John Kennedy would be ashamed of the current generation. "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" would be political suicide to say now.

Lighten up, Francis. You'll get over it.


Here, I will give you a welfare check. I know you want it.
 
2008-10-04 02:36:32 PM  
Darth Shatner: hitler was a hardcore liberal:

the electoral college system is hundreds of years obsolete.

NO, it's not.

they only keep it on so that the GOP can have any chance of winning the presidency.

The democrats want to get rid of it so that they can have a chance to win...mob rule over constitutional republic, right?

You should study the writings of our founding fathers some.


i love that sort of vapid argument....

condescendingly say you should read ________

it's a chickensh][t way to get out of actually using facts to refute something.
 
2008-10-04 02:38:14 PM  
Thunderpipes: Darth Shatner: CitizenTed

...As the Czech student prepared to launch into his anti-Bush tirade, I interrupted him and explained that I voted for the other guys, not the NeoCon idiots currently in power...

Yet when a foreigner comes to America and we start ragging on their political leaders and telling them to their face how much we think they (their leaders) suck...we are the ugly ones.

Oh... And I can point out ass hat tourist from all over the world walking around like total D-bags. Americans have not cornered the market when it comes to their asshat ignorant tourists.

Just goes to show that Americans are nicer people, and much more tolerant than narrow minded Eurotrash. Buddy's sister visitted recently from New Zealand. Her kids were 7 and 10 years old. They could not read or write, they "had trouble with our letters". Yet somehow they hated Bush. I wonder how? The very thing foreigners accuse Americans of, they do twice as badly.


so all of a sudden, new zealand has moved to europe?

this is why foreigners think that you're stupid.
 
2008-10-04 02:38:32 PM  
TheOtherGuy: Doesn't that remind anyone of another place & time?

Buncha people not neccessarily loathsome in and of themselves, but supporting a vicious, expansionist, inhumane, bigoted, militaristic government feared and opposed by large portions of the civilized world?

Think hard.

/Doesn't want to do that to this thread quite so early
//Wants you to do it for him


Newfoundland!
 
2008-10-04 02:38:36 PM  
Thunderpipes: jso2897: Thunderpipes: Parker1227: These are the same foreigners, many of whom rolled over for Adolph Hitler and or Stalin, and who now are rolling over for Islamo-fascists - who are re-occupying Europe as we speak.

How anyone could vote for a man, Obama, who attended a racist, anti-semitic, anti-American, pro-Louis Farrakhan church for 20 years is really a scary thought.

Has the left actually succeeded in brainwashing a majority of the nation into hating America and what it stands for?

Yes. And I love how other countries are bending over backwards to accomodate Muslim hate speech and doing everything they can to appease their growing violent Muslim populations. A large chunk of Americans have been so coddled, so used to the incredible freedoms and benefits of growing up here, that they never have had to compete for anything. They demand more and more handouts. John Kennedy would be ashamed of the current generation. "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" would be political suicide to say now.

Lighten up, Francis. You'll get over it.

Here, I will give you a welfare check. I know you want it.


I don't accept checks. Especially from known honeyfuglers. :D
 
2008-10-04 02:40:03 PM  
hitler was a hardcore liberal: Darth Shatner: hitler was a hardcore liberal:

the electoral college system is hundreds of years obsolete.

NO, it's not.

they only keep it on so that the GOP can have any chance of winning the presidency.

The democrats want to get rid of it so that they can have a chance to win...mob rule over constitutional republic, right?

You should study the writings of our founding fathers some.

i love that sort of vapid argument....

condescendingly say you should read ________

it's a chickensh][t way to get out of actually using facts to refute something.


Hmmm...do as you say not as you do, huh?
 
2008-10-04 02:40:27 PM  
jso2897: Parker1227: These are the same foreigners, many of whom rolled over for Adolph Hitler and or Stalin, and who now are rolling over for Islamo-fascists - who are re-occupying Europe as we speak.

How anyone could vote for a man, Obama, who attended a racist, anti-semitic, anti-American, pro-Louis Farrakhan church for 20 years is really a scary thought.

Has the left actually succeeded in brainwashing a majority of the nation into hating America and what it stands for?

Because he's the lesser of two evils?:D


so by being the lesser of the two evils, that makes him the lesser candidate.

vote mc*cain for the greater evil.
 
2008-10-04 02:40:45 PM  
www.getreligion.org

dannyseo.typepad.com

//Plastic is cheaper.
 
2008-10-04 02:41:15 PM  
hitler was a hardcore liberal: Thunderpipes: Darth Shatner: CitizenTed

...As the Czech student prepared to launch into his anti-Bush tirade, I interrupted him and explained that I voted for the other guys, not the NeoCon idiots currently in power...

Yet when a foreigner comes to America and we start ragging on their political leaders and telling them to their face how much we think they (their leaders) suck...we are the ugly ones.

Oh... And I can point out ass hat tourist from all over the world walking around like total D-bags. Americans have not cornered the market when it comes to their asshat ignorant tourists.

Just goes to show that Americans are nicer people, and much more tolerant than narrow minded Eurotrash. Buddy's sister visitted recently from New Zealand. Her kids were 7 and 10 years old. They could not read or write, they "had trouble with our letters". Yet somehow they hated Bush. I wonder how? The very thing foreigners accuse Americans of, they do twice as badly.

so all of a sudden, new zealand has moved to europe?

this is why foreigners think that you're stupid.


Seperate story, you are stupid for not realizing that, dumbass.
 
2008-10-04 02:41:47 PM  
hitler was a hardcore liberal: Thunderpipes: Darth Shatner: CitizenTed

...As the Czech student prepared to launch into his anti-Bush tirade, I interrupted him and explained that I voted for the other guys, not the NeoCon idiots currently in power...

Yet when a foreigner comes to America and we start ragging on their political leaders and telling them to their face how much we think they (their leaders) suck...we are the ugly ones.

Oh... And I can point out ass hat tourist from all over the world walking around like total D-bags. Americans have not cornered the market when it comes to their asshat ignorant tourists.

Just goes to show that Americans are nicer people, and much more tolerant than narrow minded Eurotrash. Buddy's sister visitted recently from New Zealand. Her kids were 7 and 10 years old. They could not read or write, they "had trouble with our letters". Yet somehow they hated Bush. I wonder how? The very thing foreigners accuse Americans of, they do twice as badly.

so all of a sudden, new zealand has moved to europe?

this is why foreigners think that you're stupid.


Hmmm..avoid the issue by misrepresenting a part of his statement...keep on drowning us with Facts!!
 
2008-10-04 02:41:52 PM  
I'm an American and I grew up in the Southeast, one of the more conservative parts of the country. I have grown moe liberal over the years because I see what conservatism has done to my part of the country. Bad Schools, Bad Infrastructure, People using religion as a poltical litmus test, etc..... Despite growing up in it, for the last 8 years I honestly feel like I'm living in a foreign country. This is not the country I grew up in. We have gone from debates about what the size/scope of government should be, and if our foreign policy should be to engage to world more/less to debates that basically rely on many conservatives ignoring reality altogether and making up their own. Something is terribly wrong in America the last 8 years. I hope it changes soon but if it doesn't I wouldn't trust our government either.
 
2008-10-04 02:42:00 PM  
johnny_vegas: Hmmm...do as you say not as you do, huh?
well to be fare he also ignores the refutations offered. Which is a different strategy entirely.
 
2008-10-04 02:42:33 PM  
Lamune_Baba: bachdog: The military-industrial-Halliburton complex holds the reins and about 40-50% or fewer voting eligible adults pitch in their ballot every four years to rigged election machines made by Diebold.

Your snark aside, the election process has been "rigged" long before Diebold. The whole system has been manipulated to make the two major political parties the only viable choice. Just getting an independent on the ballot is no minor feat, and the wall one has to climb to do it keeps getting higher.

This country does not choose their leaders- they're given a choice of puppets. And every four years we're given an elaborate puppet-show, complete with colors and flashing lights... a grand and expensive production. It keeps us distracted... keeps the voters out there thinking they make a difference... and keeps them fighting each other in some blind partisan support of their favorite muppet instead of paying attention to the man behind the stage with his fist up their ass.

/zombie Henson for President


Ironically, cynical and compliant Americans like this are a well represented subsection of "hated americans". This is worse than the surrender monkey canard you guys build around the French. You don't just give up when someone has a gun to your head, you give up because because you are farking mentally lazy.
The only reason blind, team-sports forms of political thought thrive in your country is because you ABIDE it. Scratch that, you actively laugh at reasoned idealism and COMMEND sophistry and brazen partisanship.

Fark Independent(tm) types that go "well they're all the same!" and stay home and let the numerous republican sheeple go vote themselves and everyone else a bunch of moral egoists that care only about their personal fortunes and prejudices in spite of all opposing reason and fact.

Bah!
 
2008-10-04 02:42:46 PM  
johnny_vegas: hitler was a hardcore liberal: Darth Shatner: hitler was a hardcore liberal:

the electoral college system is hundreds of years obsolete.

NO, it's not.

they only keep it on so that the GOP can have any chance of winning the presidency.

The democrats want to get rid of it so that they can have a chance to win...mob rule over constitutional republic, right?

You should study the writings of our founding fathers some.

i love that sort of vapid argument....

condescendingly say you should read ________

it's a chickensh][t way to get out of actually using facts to refute something.

Hmmm...do as you say not as you do, huh?


debate is easy.

state a premise, refute a premise.

if you want to refute a premise, its generally better to use facts than by using rhetoric.

or in other words....

wharrgarble: two minute penalty
 
2008-10-04 02:42:50 PM  
I don't accept checks. Especially from known honeyfuglers. :D

I can't trust you to use cash. You would spend it all on pot and fat hookers. Libs cannot be trusted with finances, they are bad at it.
 
2008-10-04 02:45:24 PM  
Thunderpipes: hitler was a hardcore liberal: Thunderpipes: Darth Shatner: CitizenTed

...As the Czech student prepared to launch into his anti-Bush tirade, I interrupted him and explained that I voted for the other guys, not the NeoCon idiots currently in power...

Yet when a foreigner comes to America and we start ragging on their political leaders and telling them to their face how much we think they (their leaders) suck...we are the ugly ones.

Oh... And I can point out ass hat tourist from all over the world walking around like total D-bags. Americans have not cornered the market when it comes to their asshat ignorant tourists.

Just goes to show that Americans are nicer people, and much more tolerant than narrow minded Eurotrash. Buddy's sister visitted recently from New Zealand. Her kids were 7 and 10 years old. They could not read or write, they "had trouble with our letters". Yet somehow they hated Bush. I wonder how? The very thing foreigners accuse Americans of, they do twice as badly.

so all of a sudden, new zealand has moved to europe?

this is why foreigners think that you're stupid.

Seperate story, you are stupid for not realizing that, dumbass.


normally, when you make a point, the story that you use to back that point up should be relevant.

do you have any personal experiences with 'eurotrash', or are you just guessing?
 
2008-10-04 02:46:56 PM  
EwoksSuck: I'm an American and I grew up in the Southeast, one of the more conservative parts of the country. I have grown moe liberal over the years because I see what conservatism has done to my part of the country. Bad Schools, Bad Infrastructure, People using religion as a poltical litmus test, etc..... Despite growing up in it, for the last 8 years I honestly feel like I'm living in a foreign country. This is not the country I grew up in. We have gone from debates about what the size/scope of government should be, and if our foreign policy should be to engage to world more/less to debates that basically rely on many conservatives ignoring reality altogether and making up their own. Something is terribly wrong in America the last 8 years. I hope it changes soon but if it doesn't I wouldn't trust our government either.

a few points:

1) it goes back farther than the past 8 years. It goes back many decades, but has been dominant for at least 10 years.

2) we the people get our tighty whities in a bunch over ridiculous nonsense, like lapel pins and whether someone had a drug or drinking problem 30 years ago, and the result is that avoiding superficial embarrassments is more important than policy or competence when we pick our leaders

3) we can blame the media and the parties all we want for this phenomenon, but if we as a whole didn't buy into it so much it wouldn't work.
 
2008-10-04 02:48:07 PM  
johnny_vegas: hitler was a hardcore liberal: Thunderpipes: Darth Shatner: CitizenTed

...As the Czech student prepared to launch into his anti-Bush tirade, I interrupted him and explained that I voted for the other guys, not the NeoCon idiots currently in power...

Yet when a foreigner comes to America and we start ragging on their political leaders and telling them to their face how much we think they (their leaders) suck...we are the ugly ones.

Oh... And I can point out ass hat tourist from all over the world walking around like total D-bags. Americans have not cornered the market when it comes to their asshat ignorant tourists.

Just goes to show that Americans are nicer people, and much more tolerant than narrow minded Eurotrash. Buddy's sister visitted recently from New Zealand. Her kids were 7 and 10 years old. They could not read or write, they "had trouble with our letters". Yet somehow they hated Bush. I wonder how? The very thing foreigners accuse Americans of, they do twice as badly.

so all of a sudden, new zealand has moved to europe?

this is why foreigners think that you're stupid.

Hmmm..avoid the issue by misrepresenting a part of his statement...keep on drowning us with Facts!!


would you like me to state some fact in specific, or are you just being an asshat?
 
2008-10-04 02:49:16 PM  
hitler was a hardcore liberal

i love that sort of vapid argument....

condescendingly say you should read ________

it's a chickensh][t way to get out of actually using facts to refute something.


ummm...you saying "the electoral college system is hundreds of years obsolete they only keep it on so that the GOP can have any chance of winning the presidency." is not a fact. It's an opinion based on an emotion void of any facts....

I am not here to school you on the constitution, and the other writings of our founding fathers.

You should get some knowledge by reading some books written by our founding fathers before you come back to the adult table to discuss the "electoral college system" versus "popular vote".

It's the facts stupid.
 
2008-10-04 02:51:45 PM  
Bitter Coffee: ...

Crazy...gotcha.
 
2008-10-04 02:52:07 PM  
I've never made more friends in Sweden than I did while wearing a Ron Paul t-shirt.
 
2008-10-04 02:53:28 PM  
Darth Shatner: hitler was a hardcore liberal

i love that sort of vapid argument....

condescendingly say you should read ________

it's a chickensh][t way to get out of actually using facts to refute something.

ummm...you saying "the electoral college system is hundreds of years obsolete they only keep it on so that the GOP can have any chance of winning the presidency." is not a fact. It's an opinion based on an emotion void of any facts....

I am not here to school you on the constitution, and the other writings of our founding fathers.

You should get some knowledge by reading some books written by our founding fathers before you come back to the adult table to discuss the "electoral college system" versus "popular vote".

It's the facts stupid.


apparently you need to read books regarding the process of debate.


i forwarded a premise, you need to properly refute.

saying read a book wont win an argument.

try this, explain how removing the electoral college process will be detrimental to the wellbeing of the us.

can you do that?
 
2008-10-04 02:54:30 PM  
The_OcO: I've never made more friends in Sweden than I did while wearing a Ron Paul t-shirt.

try an abba tshirt.
 
2008-10-04 02:54:41 PM  
America is proof that 300 millions rights can make a wrong.
 
2008-10-04 02:55:18 PM  
Both.

Note: please keep on point with your electoral congress and GOP statements...because I can't really fault your earlier posts.
 
2008-10-04 02:56:55 PM  
hitler was a hardcore liberal: Darth Shatner: hitler was a hardcore liberal

i love that sort of vapid argument....

condescendingly say you should read ________

it's a chickensh][t way to get out of actually using facts to refute something.

ummm...you saying "the electoral college system is hundreds of years obsolete they only keep it on so that the GOP can have any chance of winning the presidency." is not a fact. It's an opinion based on an emotion void of any facts....

I am not here to school you on the constitution, and the other writings of our founding fathers.

You should get some knowledge by reading some books written by our founding fathers before you come back to the adult table to discuss the "electoral college system" versus "popular vote".

It's the facts stupid.

apparently you need to read books regarding the process of debate.


i forwarded a premise, you need to properly refute.

saying read a book wont win an argument.

try this, explain how removing the electoral college process will be detrimental to the wellbeing of the us.

can you do that?


I think you will find that the premise is given to both teams in debate, you then have to present a positive, the other team presents a negative. You have to prove your statement also....THAT is debate.
 
2008-10-04 02:57:32 PM  
hitler was a hardcore liberal: The_OcO: I've never made more friends in Sweden than I did while wearing a Ron Paul t-shirt.

try an abba tshirt.


ok, i think we can all agree on this
 
2008-10-04 03:00:03 PM  
hitler was a hardcore liberal: The_OcO: I've never made more friends in Sweden than I did while wearing a Ron Paul t-shirt.

try an abba tshirt.


I'm in absolute shock with myself that I hadn't thought of that first.
 
2008-10-04 03:00:06 PM  
johnny_vegas: hitler was a hardcore liberal: Darth Shatner: hitler was a hardcore liberal

i love that sort of vapid argument....

condescendingly say you should read ________

it's a chickensh][t way to get out of actually using facts to refute something.

ummm...you saying "the electoral college system is hundreds of years obsolete they only keep it on so that the GOP can have any chance of winning the presidency." is not a fact. It's an opinion based on an emotion void of any facts....

I am not here to school you on the constitution, and the other writings of our founding fathers.

You should get some knowledge by reading some books written by our founding fathers before you come back to the adult table to discuss the "electoral college system" versus "popular vote".

It's the facts stupid.

apparently you need to read books regarding the process of debate.


i forwarded a premise, you need to properly refute.

saying read a book wont win an argument.

try this, explain how removing the electoral college process will be detrimental to the wellbeing of the us.

can you do that?

I think you will find that the premise is given to both teams in debate, you then have to present a positive, the other team presents a negative. You have to prove your statement also....THAT is debate.


your argument against was your negative, but it was wharrgarble.

positive for removing electoral college:


-obsolete and worthless anyway
-bad for people like you

negative? and no, saying read a book doesnt count.
 
2008-10-04 03:04:18 PM  
hitler was a hardcore liberal
i forwarded a premise, you need to properly refute.

You forwarded a premise with no proof, just opinion. I cant debate your feelings with you. You have to back up your statement with facts.

Now if you could use some facts to back up your original statement "the electoral college system is hundreds of years obsolete they only keep it on so that the GOP can have any chance of winning the presidency." with some actual fact (something you cant do) we could have a debate.

Whats you said is no different than someone saying God exists...prove that I am wrong. The person making the premise has to prove they are right. They have to back up their original statement with facts.

You cannot give me any facts to back up your original statement. Therefore we cant debate your opinon.
 
zz9
2008-10-04 03:04:55 PM  
Malbar: Despite its flaws, the United States is still the freest country in the world without a doubt.

You sure?
In the UK I've never read of Police confiscating large amounts of cash simply because they thought it suspicious, I've read it happening several times in the US.
In the UK we're not forced to carry ID or driving licences while driving a car.
We don't have to get a licence to start a business.
We can't be arrested simply because a police officer "thinks" we might be drunk. If the breathalyser says we're clear, we walk. Or drive. I've read of people in the US being arrested and convicted simply of the word of a cop, even if a breathalyser read clear.
It's not illegal for teenagers to drink alcohol. I drank wine with meals before I was ten.
We never had blacks as slaves, and took the lead in eradicating it from the world. We never had segregated buses, schools or restrooms.
And we don't have home owners associations!

It's swings and roundabouts, we're not perfect and the UK like the US under Bush is gradually heading down the road towards a Police state, but we've had written human rights since Magna Carta in 1215. We had human rights since before most countries, including the US, even existed.
 
Oak
2008-10-04 03:05:28 PM  
Sturgeon's law applies to nothing else as well as it does to humanity.
 
2008-10-04 03:05:41 PM  
hitler was a hardcore liberal: jso2897: Parker1227: These are the same foreigners, many of whom rolled over for Adolph Hitler and or Stalin, and who now are rolling over for Islamo-fascists - who are re-occupying Europe as we speak.

How anyone could vote for a man, Obama, who attended a racist, anti-semitic, anti-American, pro-Louis Farrakhan church for 20 years is really a scary thought.

Has the left actually succeeded in brainwashing a majority of the nation into hating America and what it stands for?

Because he's the lesser of two evils?:D

so by being the lesser of the two evils, that makes him the lesser candidate.

vote mc*cain for the greater evil.


Damn. I hadn't considered THAT angle.
 
2008-10-04 03:06:23 PM  
Darth Shatner: hitler was a hardcore liberal
i forwarded a premise, you need to properly refute.

You forwarded a premise with no proof, just opinion. I cant debate your feelings with you.


you never want to talk about feelings anymore, it's just sex, sex, sex.
 
2008-10-04 03:07:37 PM  
I love Americans. In my belly. I eat the brown ones on Sundays.

/AND I AM 900 KILOGRAMS. The look on their faces when they see me bounding toward them after they set off my traps....even more delicious than the Americans themselves (except that scientologist....never tasted anything so ...mmm Xenuey
//dunno where that came from, HATE "Slashies" HATE MY SELF FOR USING THEM. And I never met a government I liked (except the US government, those guys rock)
 
2008-10-04 03:09:47 PM  
I've been living abroad for almost 5 years now. I am still proud to say I'm American and I hate douchebags who will lie and say they are Canadian when in a foreign country. I've never had a negative response from people when I tell them where I am from, maybe because I remember that I am a guest in their country and try to adopt their customs. That being said, almost every time I encounter a loud and obnoxious group somewhere, they are are Canadians. It really upsets me because I know the natives just assume they are Americans.
 
2008-10-04 03:11:54 PM  
Jeffro619: said, almost every time I encounter a loud and obnoxious group somewhere, they are are Canadians.

GET IN MAH BELLY
 
2008-10-04 03:16:51 PM  
Well, I am married to a European. My inlaws don't like me and it has nothing to do with my government. Although, they enjoy ragging on my country as a prelude to insulting me. This was all pre Iraq, pre 9-11. All I heard was that we all carried guns and shot people all of the time. There was a McDonalds on every corner, we all went to Disney world 24-7 and we all ate cornflakes , when we weren't eating McDonalds, or chewing gum. Not exactly the worst insults you can think of but it stopped any conversation into the myraid of issues that really bothered them. I moved out of Rotterdam pre 9-11 and thank god I wasn't living there for Iraq or Van Gogh, whew.
I guess the Dutch have a perfect country, right? lol.
People shouldn't throw stones, no country is perfect.
 
2008-10-04 03:17:24 PM  
hitler was a hardcore liberal

you never want to talk about feelings anymore, it's just sex, sex, sex.

The closest thing to sex between you and me is how much I just effed you up discussing the finer points on how to set up a debate about popular vote (mob rule) versus the electoral college (constitutional law). Thanks for playing.
 
2008-10-04 03:19:12 PM  
Thunderpipes: I don't accept checks. Especially from known honeyfuglers. :D

I can't trust you to use cash. You would spend it all on pot and fat hookers. Libs cannot be trusted with finances, they are bad at it.


No, libs can't - but since I fall somewhere to the right of Barry Goldwater, that shouldn't apply to me. But anyway, you shouldn't be so accommodating - people will take advantage of you. If I want your money, I'll damn well steal it fair and square, like the red-blooded American Patriot I am. Letting the government do your stealing for you is just so bourgeois. And trailers are easy to break into, anyway.
 
2008-10-04 03:21:06 PM  
fenian-GET IN MAH BELLY
I have no idea what that means, just stating my own personal experience.
 
2008-10-04 03:22:21 PM  
Blink: Say it ain't so, Joe!

/Note: People in Michigan and Indiana do NOT talk like this -- despite what idiot commentators will have you believe.


I was at my parents' house out in the Indiana countryside recently. Out at the bar, there were a bunch of city folks trying to be as rustic as possible, but just failing. (protip: if you actually wear flannel, it should never be pressed) The worst was a bad attempt at a country accent to blend in. We just stared until they left and continued talking in our normal American talk.

The point is, there's jackasses everywhere, imaginary lines on the ground don't contain idiotry. Accept that, dismiss the retards, prove to others you're decent and respectful, and life gets a lot better.
 
2008-10-04 03:23:15 PM  
raerae1980: I have many other stories about my interactions abroad, but this is a forum, not a blog. Instead I leave you all with a terrific book on the subject:

Let's see what Amazon says...

"At this point, a couple of points need to be emphasized. The first is that Markovits is talking only about Western Europe; by contrast, "Eastern Europeans' overwhelmingly positive views of America stem largely from their having perceived the United States as their sole ally against the much-despised Soviet Union." The second, as mentioned above, is that although he persistently refers to "Europeans," his subject is in fact a minority: academics and intellectuals on the left, old-guard traditionalists on the right. It's easy, while reading Uncouth Nation, to be seduced into believing that Markovits is writing about sentiments shared by the majority of Europeans. He isn't."

Any other books you'd recommend?


The Wa Post reviewer is claiming that readers might infer something Markovitz didn't say. Markovitz is actually quite clear about statistical trends of anti-American sentiment - and not just among Western Europeans (Markovitz is a Romanian, after all). Otherwise, the review was pretty accurate.

The book is a balanced appraisal. It's highly critical of the entrenched and illogical anti-Americanism espoused by many Europeans, especially those of the academic Left. It's also highly critical of vapid American culture, which is to blame for much of the outside criticism. Put them together - a vapid American culture and a haughty European elitism - and you get an anti-American attitude that is both prevalent and enduring.

The median effect of these two dynamics is left up to the reader; Markovits merely posits their existence and offers some statistics to back it up. Reading this Fark forum is a microcosm of everything Markovits writes about. Are European leftists overly dismissive of all things American? Well, yes and no. But often YES. Are Americans really a bunch of cretinous morons whose culture is as inauthentic as a Vegas casino? Well, yes and no. But often YES.

So, no. I don't have another book to recommend on this subject. This one is really, really good. Read it.
 
2008-10-04 03:23:43 PM  
Rakingwetleaves: Well, I am married to a European. My inlaws don't like me and it has nothing to do with my government. Although, they enjoy ragging on my country as a prelude to insulting me. This was all pre Iraq, pre 9-11. All I heard was that we all carried guns and shot people all of the time. There was a McDonalds on every corner, we all went to Disney world 24-7 and we all ate cornflakes , when we weren't eating McDonalds, or chewing gum. Not exactly the worst insults you can think of but it stopped any conversation into the myraid of issues that really bothered them. I moved out of Rotterdam pre 9-11 and thank god I wasn't living there for Iraq or Van Gogh, whew.
I guess the Dutch have a perfect country, right? lol.
People shouldn't throw stones, no country is perfect.


But people LIKE to throw stones. Why should they deny themselves that pleasure merely because of a lack of perfection in the world? In the best of all possible worlds, we will all live in meat houses, and throw live wolverines.
 
2008-10-04 03:27:37 PM  
Speaking from an oldschool primate point of view, you understand.
 
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