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(Rolling Stone)   Parts of McCain's autobiography "read like a bad Ian Fleming novel, with his Vietnamese captors cast as nefarious Bond villains: 'They taught you too well, Mac Kane,' Cat snarled, kicking over a chair"   (rollingstone.com) divider line 154
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2008-10-03 03:29:31 PM
Repeat.
 
2008-10-03 03:29:47 PM
AnotherSithForMcCain: I like it when McCain was regaling a reporter with his "son of an admiral near death story" as his fellow sailors died fighting the fire his plane created. Such a Maverick

Whaaa??? Seriously??

Cynthia Mckinney?? Is that you???
 
2008-10-03 03:29:58 PM
AnotherSithForMcCain: I like it when McCain was regaling a reporter with his "son of an admiral near death story" as his fellow sailors died fighting the fire his plane created. Such a Maverick

In case someone believes your bullshiat:

McCain was sitting in the cockpit of his plane waiting his turn to take off from the carrier when an (un)friendly missile from another plane on board misfired and hit McCain's plane.
 
2008-10-03 03:30:54 PM
Verdelak: Anyway, I have some problems with thing my party and its follows tend to do lately:

...



Wait a minute. Are you implying that some republicans are hhh... hhhy... hhhhypo... somewhat inconsistent?
 
2008-10-03 03:39:00 PM
Corpus Delecti: Hang On Voltaire: As opposed to the Rolling Stone article which casts the POW who thinks McCain is a brat as nobly going off to the Middle East while McCain is going to Rio to cheat on his family.

/how many days is this horse shiat going to get greenlit?


Hey asshole, (and I'm going to assume you won't mind if I use your mom's pet name for you) were were you during the past two months, when NOTHING but anti-Obama threads were Greenlit? Yet one gets a Greenlight that's mildy anti-McCain, and little pussies like you suddenly find yourself concerned about the "fairness" of the Greenlight process.


lolwut
 
2008-10-03 03:40:04 PM
The yellow bastard smiled through his crooked teeth. 'Ming Nao! Ming Nao!'

I wanted to understand what he was saying, but I was concentrating too hard on survival.

It was year three of my captivity. By this time, I was accustomed to my environment. I was becoming domesticated.

My arms, tied to the reeds my bamboo cage, he lifted my shirt. My chest hair glistening from a mix of perspiration and degradation.

'You'll never get me to talk' I shouted defiantly.

'O'Rly? We have ways of making you talk, Mr. McCain'

The bastard spoke English! I wondered what he had in store for me?

Then the penises came. Some flaccid, only a few erect, but thousands of them. Yellow and poking, flopping around like a swarm of rubbery-woodpeckers.

They attempted, in vain, to penetrate my the fleshy fold of my neck, legs, and back. My world was consumed in the impotent rage of my non-English speaking captors. But I've taken on harder men then they. I was loving it.

The erotic thrill of being sexually ravaged by my enemies was a rush I would never forget. Even to this day, I combat the urge to prowl the night searching for that would may feed my nostalgic hunger.


/ got nothing :(
 
2008-10-03 03:42:00 PM
Philip J. Fry: AnotherSithForMcCain: I like it when McCain was regaling a reporter with his "son of an admiral near death story" as his fellow sailors died fighting the fire his plane created. Such a Maverick

In case someone believes your bullshiat:

McCain was sitting in the cockpit of his plane waiting his turn to take off from the carrier when an (un)friendly missile from another plane on board misfired and hit McCain's plane.


well tecnicly what he said was true. The file was caused by McCain's plane being hit by a missle so it was caused by McCain's plane (with no fault by McCain).

However I agree it's unfair to blame McCain for this and to blame him for protecting himself instead of helping others as most of us are just as selfish.
 
2008-10-03 03:42:07 PM
Ankillatron: Prank Call of Cthulhu: I got more respect for guys that know how to stay out of the can.

You know, every time I hear about McCain's POWness I think about that episode of the Sopranos. Is being a POW something to be proud of? Doesn't that mean you've run up the white flag of surrender?


I dunno. Ask Pete Peterson or Joe Kernan.
 
2008-10-03 03:42:57 PM
That reminded me of Michael Skarn from The Office.
 
2008-10-03 03:44:10 PM
Jackson Herring: Anyone else think it's weird for this thread on the main page to be a complete neo-con echo chamber, while the one that posted yesterday on the politics page had a much more normal balance of opinions (at least for FARK)? I guess everyone else is busy in the bailout thread this afternoon.

Yes I know, 3 conservatives post anywhere on fark and it's "OMG EVIL CONSERVATARDS! NEO-CONS! NEO-CONS!" since we disrupt the usual Liberal/Progressive Love Orgy that usually takes place.

It's a shame they can't have a test on Fark that makes sure your Liberal/Progressive enough to post here, then life would be great.
 
2008-10-03 03:50:45 PM
Oh sure... The man is going to cast the men who held and TORTURED him in a good light.
 
2008-10-03 03:53:57 PM
harlock_jds: well tecnicly what he said was true. The file was caused by McCain's plane being hit by a missle so it was caused by McCain's plane (with no fault by McCain).

However I agree it's unfair to blame McCain for this and to blame him for protecting himself instead of helping others as most of us are just as selfish.


That's like blaming a car for crushing it's occupants when a boulder falls on the roof...


And not that I have any experience whatsoever in the Navy, but I highly doubt that pilots are part of damage control teams. In an emergency their job seems likely to be "Get in the air or get off the flight deck."
 
2008-10-03 03:53:58 PM
Part of TIM DICKINSON'S autobiography will read like a bad Rolling Stone article. Get a life.
You heard me, Tim.
 
2008-10-03 03:56:36 PM
Philip J. Fry: And not that I have any experience whatsoever in the Navy, but I highly doubt that pilots are part of damage control teams. In an emergency their job seems likely to be "Get in the air or get off the flight deck."

Unless your damage control team was just struck by a missile launched from a fighter starting a chain reaction and blowing up lots of things and people around you. Not that anything like that could happen, but hypothetically speaking...
 
2008-10-03 03:59:06 PM
Philip J. Fry: That's like blaming a car for crushing it's occupants when a boulder falls on the roof...

agreed.

BTW other pilots DID help out and fight the fire and rescued people, McCain didn't. In a crisis it's usually not a good idea to sit around and say 'not my job'.

I think the article does it's best to paint facts as nasty as they can but in a lot of cases just the facts alone (which i assume are true, I haven't seem many denials other than McCain didn't call his wife a coont and didn't start the fire) are pretty bad.
 
2008-10-03 04:08:22 PM
Do you expect me to talk?

No Mr. McCain, I expect you to die!
 
2008-10-03 04:22:52 PM
harlock_jds:
In a crisis it's usually not a good idea to sit around and say 'not my job'.


Much better to get in there and make things worse by trying do a job you are in no way qualified for.

Hmmmm...

i24.photobucket.com
 
2008-10-03 04:22:57 PM
Meanwhile parts of Hussein's autobiography had him farting all day sitting on his office at his leftist NGO, pretending to "organize" the "community" and checking his bank account to see if his contributers were donating at a timely fashion.
 
2008-10-03 04:23:18 PM
Video of the USS Forrestal Incident (new window)

I'm linking to youtube not only for the horrific video, but because this is the first video I've seen not filled with idiotic comments.
 
2008-10-03 04:32:12 PM
texastag: harlock_jds:
In a crisis it's usually not a good idea to sit around and say 'not my job'.

Much better to get in there and make things worse by trying do a job you are in no way qualified for.

Hmmmm...


Every person on that ship, like every person on every other US flagged military and merchant ship, was trained in shipboard firefighting.
 
2008-10-03 04:32:49 PM
This article is an example of "yellow journalism" at it's best. It has been well established that the Rolling Stone is on the leading edge of the "Blame America First" crowd. This article tries to sully the image of a man who was a P.O.W. and war hero? Yes, McCain has flaws; he is a man. All men have weaknesses (of course, not the Obamanation itself). Unlike the Obamanation, who hated "whitey" during his college years and made no bones about it, John McCain is more of a man than either Dickinson or the Obamanation will be; I doubt if anyone in this thread has the balls or intestinal fortitude to deal with years of torture at the hands of a cruel enemy. McCain is not as qualified to lead this country? I feel he is more qualified than a man who has spent his time organizing neighborhood pick-up b-ball games and roaming the Chicago cemeteries looking for new names to add to the Democrat voting list. Dickinson spent a lot of time digging through much to pull up these petty tidbits.

This article should never have been submitted, much less green-lighted. I know that Fark is the headquaters of the Obamanation campaign but putting up articles like this shows that this website is more like the Al Jazeera of backwoods Kentucky.
 
2008-10-03 04:38:09 PM
Sometimes I think Rolling Stone is still fighting the Vietnam War.
 
2008-10-03 04:38:26 PM
Yes, I'm sure being a POW in 'Nam was all rainbows and sunshine, and at no point, did anything bad ever happen.

Everyone of you who went apeshiat (and rightfully so) when the RNC idiots mocked Kerry's sacrifices but are now mocking McCain are hypocrites of the worst kind.

/stay classy guys
 
2008-10-03 04:42:43 PM
Jackson Herring: texastag: harlock_jds:
In a crisis it's usually not a good idea to sit around and say 'not my job'.

Much better to get in there and make things worse by trying do a job you are in no way qualified for.

Hmmmm...

Every person on that ship, like every person on every other US flagged military and merchant ship, was trained in shipboard firefighting.


While that's true, the Navy has a whole rate (DC) for firefighting. And McCain, being an aviator, would not have been trained - he was not a member of the ship's company. Not that he shouldn't have helped out, of course.
 
2008-10-03 04:51:26 PM
A leftist teeny bopper stoner rag gives an unfavorable review of an ex-military POW? No. Can't be. The same leftist mag that has been busy giving Obama sloppy BJs and swallowing?

Chuckle.

Next up. Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine provide liberals with biting in depth political insight and review. Heh heh.
 
2008-10-03 05:02:57 PM
SouthParkCon: Everyone knows McSame is a lying sack of shiat. He wasn't even in Vietnam. Furthermore everyone knows Palin is a dirty Alaskan whore who gave out blow jobs in the back room. I can't believe my fellow americans are so stupid. Why can't they just join one party so that everyone can just get along. I hate people who don't think the same as I do, they are such clusterfarks that they need to be sent off to some re-education camp and taught how to think like me.

/End Liberal/Progressive Rant Program v2.1


You know who else only wanted one party, and for everyone to think like him?

/whats the difference between Tung, Stalin, Hitler, Guevara, and a liberal?
// Nothing, they all want your freedom for breakfast.
 
2008-10-03 05:10:56 PM
Lee451: This article is an example of "yellow journalism" at it's best. It has been well established that the Rolling Stone is on the leading edge of the "Blame America First" crowd. This article... ...shows that this website is more like the Al Jazeera of backwoods Kentucky.

3/10
 
2008-10-03 05:14:42 PM
/whats the difference between Tung, Stalin, Hitler, Guevara, and a liberal?
// Nothing, they all want your freedom for breakfast.


Explain how a liberal wants your freedom for breakfast, please.
 
2008-10-03 05:20:38 PM
Lee451: This article is an example of "yellow journalism" at it's best.

Unlike the Obamanation, who hated "whitey" during his college years and made no bones about it,

I feel he is more qualified than a man who has spent his time organizing neighborhood pick-up b-ball games and roaming the Chicago cemeteries looking for new names to add to the Democrat voting list.

This article should never have been submitted, much less green-lighted. I know that Fark is the headquaters of the Obamanation campaign but putting up articles like this shows that this website is more like the Al Jazeera of backwoods Kentucky.


You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I COMPLETELY disagree this yellow journalism should never even have been SUBMITTED. Who are you to make that call? It's an interesting and well-written complilation of crappy things Sen. McCain has done in his life, pretty much verified by other sources (including his own books).

Subby

/offended you lump me in with Al Jazeera
//former McCain supporter
///Christian who's never cheated on his wife (like Obama, unlike McCain)
////military vet, which I didn't see in your profile for someone who's so staunchly conservative and patriotic
V been through hellish survival training and a mock POW camp (that admittedly isn't anything close to what Sen. McCain went through) but can tell you that being a POW doesn't make somebody a hero or qualify him for higher office. POWs (who trained us) would be the first to admit that
V/ graduate of a service academy who's personally offended when someone who would have been given the boot from USNA had his name not been "McCain" gets special treatment

Also, what are your sources for your "hate whitey" and "cemetery roaming" charges?
 
2008-10-03 05:22:59 PM
Aughsum: The Man with the Titanium Hip

The Barely-Living Daylights


I lol'd hard!!!

Baracktopussy

Muckraker

/got nothin
 
2008-10-03 05:24:03 PM
just thought of another title

License to Drive (For Another 10 Years)
 
2008-10-03 05:27:10 PM
I'd like to give Jann Wenner the pistol with one bullet and slap and little MAO MAO into him.
 
2008-10-03 05:27:46 PM
Although he quit writing for RS a long time ago, I do wonder what HST would have thought of all this. You know, if he hadn't offed himself.
 
2008-10-03 05:29:38 PM
Is everyone planning on voting for OBama completely comfortable knowing they are supporting the candidate 10 out of 10 ME and Asian despots support. I mean that's a little worrying, no? In the end, it you and your family's life the President's supposed to be protecting. That's his number one job.
 
2008-10-03 05:36:12 PM
Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: Is everyone planning on voting for OBama completely comfortable knowing they are supporting the candidate 10 out of 10 ME and Asian despots support. I mean that's a little worrying, no? In the end, it you and your family's life the President's supposed to be protecting. That's his number one job.

Should that be criteria for not electing someone, that the rest of the world likes him?

Unless that likability would lead to more aggression on their part (and I think most experts would argue that the opposite is probably true), I don't think him being liked or disliked outside the U.S. should matter at all to the American voter.
 
2008-10-03 05:47:22 PM
Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: Is everyone planning on voting for OBama completely comfortable knowing they are supporting the candidate 10 out of 10 ME and Asian despots support. I mean that's a little worrying, no? In the end, it you and your family's life the President's supposed to be protecting. That's his number one job.

First you'll have to explain how that makes any sort of difference regarding the safety of me and my family.
 
2008-10-03 05:49:57 PM
Shabash: Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: Is everyone planning on voting for OBama completely comfortable knowing they are supporting the candidate 10 out of 10 ME and Asian despots support. I mean that's a little worrying, no? In the end, it you and your family's life the President's supposed to be protecting. That's his number one job.

Should that be criteria for not electing someone, that the rest of the world likes him?

Unless that likability would lead to more aggression on their part (and I think most experts would argue that the opposite is probably true), I don't think him being liked or disliked outside the U.S. should matter at all to the American voter.


I don't care if foreigners like or dislike our President. I just want them to FEAR him.
 
2008-10-03 05:57:57 PM
Mouser: I don't care if foreigners like or dislike our President. I just want them to FEAR him.

I'd rather they RESPECT him. Sometimes the reaction to FEAR is an attack (e.g., a cornered animal).

That respect should ideally come from a mix of strength, humility, responsibility, and taking the high moral ground.
 
2008-10-03 05:58:13 PM
Getting caught by a bunch of angry Vietnamese farmers in a country you don't belong does not mean that are automatically suited to be president.

Being an angry black socialist doesn't mean you are entitled to be president.

Your barren wasteland oilfield state being close to Russia and Canada does not make you Queen of NATO.

Being from Delaware doesn't mean...anything.

NOBODY FOR PRESIDENT!
 
2008-10-03 06:18:38 PM
madcap72: SouthParkCon: Everyone knows McSame is a lying sack of shiat. He wasn't even in Vietnam. Furthermore everyone knows Palin is a dirty Alaskan whore who gave out blow jobs in the back room. I can't believe my fellow americans are so stupid. Why can't they just join one party so that everyone can just get along. I hate people who don't think the same as I do, they are such clusterfarks that they need to be sent off to some re-education camp and taught how to think like me.

/End Liberal/Progressive Rant Program v2.1

You know who else only wanted one party, and for everyone to think like him?

/whats the difference between Tung, Stalin, Hitler, Guevara, and a liberal?
// Nothing, they all want your freedom for breakfast.


I'm a liberal.
All I want for breakfast is my wife's waffles, some sausage, OJ and maybe a cup of coffee.

/You can have all the freedom you want.
 
2008-10-03 06:31:19 PM
biffstallion: Wow, I guess Libtards don't know how to deal with a real hero. Suck it.

Heros lose wars! and planes!
 
2008-10-03 06:42:42 PM
>war hero?

ok explain how he's a war hero. He was a POW, was tortured, certainly gave them information about American operations and did allow himself to be used as anti American propaganda (the rolling stone article says nothing that hasn't been around and well known already).

he wasn't a war hero and calling him one is an insult to actual war heroes. Name ONE thing he did, one life he saved one critical objective he met.

and don't give me the old 'well Obama is worse... Obama is as much a fake as McCain but at least he's not pretending to be some great war hero. Getting captured doesn't make one a hero, esp when you sing like a songbird, the only thing McCain didn't do was sign the paper saying that he was a war criminal so he would be released early, something MANY other POWs didn't do either.
 
2008-10-03 06:43:45 PM
TFA: Parts of his memoir recounting his days in Hanoi read like a bad Ian Fleming novel, with his Vietnamese captors cast as nefarious Bond villains. On the Fourth of July 1968, when he rejected the offer of early release, an officer nicknamed "Cat" got so mad, according to McCain, that he snapped a pen he was holding, splattering ink across the room.

"They taught you too well, Mac Kane," Cat snarled, kicking over a chair. "They taught you too well."


A bad Ian Fleming novel? Really? This passage makes it very clear that the author has never actually read an Ian Fleming novel. "A bad spy novel" would have worked just as well, but Tim Dickinson is evidently a name-dropping douche.
 
2008-10-03 07:46:55 PM
Words, not ideas.
Therefore, harmless.

/says more about the author and its loving audience than the subject of the words
 
2008-10-03 08:10:37 PM
Is anyone else scared that if McCain actually wins the Vietnamese sends some mamasan over to flip a playing card and turn him into "The Manchurian Candidate?" Just saying.
 
2008-10-03 08:37:18 PM
Mouser: Shabash: Softens_hands_while_you_do_the_dishes: Is everyone planning on voting for OBama completely comfortable knowing they are supporting the candidate 10 out of 10 ME and Asian despots support. I mean that's a little worrying, no? In the end, it you and your family's life the President's supposed to be protecting. That's his number one job.

Should that be criteria for not electing someone, that the rest of the world likes him?

Unless that likability would lead to more aggression on their part (and I think most experts would argue that the opposite is probably true), I don't think him being liked or disliked outside the U.S. should matter at all to the American voter.

I don't care if foreigners like or dislike our President. I just want them to FEAR him.


Yeah, I'm sure they're all shaking in their boots with fear of old Gramps McGeezer and hid fluffer.
 
2008-10-03 08:40:57 PM
bung ho: /whats the difference between Tung, Stalin, Hitler, Guevara, and a liberal?
// Nothing, they all want your freedom for breakfast.

Explain how a liberal wants your freedom for breakfast, please.


Well, it makes perfect sense, actually. The PATRIOT act was a conservative measure that took away the civil rights of Americans. Therefore, Liberals want to take away your freedoms.
 
2008-10-03 10:10:00 PM
Waaaait, waitwaitwait.

There are good Fleming novels?

He's a goddamn hack.
 
2008-10-03 11:48:08 PM
Darn, the liberals suck at smear campaigns... they keep bringing FACTS into it!

/McCain's temper scares me. His willingness to sign off and promote wars against countries that were never a military threat instead of utilizing other diplomatic tactics to neutralize them scares me. His abuse of deregulation to line his own pockets on multiple occasions scares me. And the fact that people in this nation are seriously considering him as presidential material TERRIFIES me.
//I wanted the short, snarky leprechaun with the firebrand morals and the hot wife.
 
2008-10-03 11:57:50 PM
Speaking as someone who's not voting for McCain, I will say this... Throw a Rolling Stone journalist in a frickin' tiger cage for five years and subject him to that level of dehumanization. When he comes out the other side, then he can feel free to speak on what the appropriate actions are to be taken therein.

There are many reasons not to vote for John McCain. How he behaved (or didn't) as a POW aren't even part of the question. Those issues don't work as a reason TO vote for him, and they don't work as a reason not to.

- Paris 'Rev' Battle, memeticpress.com
 
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