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2008-09-27 06:59:42 PM  
I liked it!
 
2008-09-27 07:21:28 PM  
I love Craig Ferguson. I think he's gotdam hilarious. I try not to watch his show, though, because it keeps me up too late. I say I can watch just the monologue or something like that, but I'm lying. Once it starts i'm hooked. =P
 
2008-09-27 10:19:11 PM  
Deification of a politician is never a good thing.

Damn straight, Craig.
(pops)

America deifies its head of government more than any other liberal democracy on the planet, and it's seriously unhealthy both for the culture and for good government. And both major parties, and both their candidates, are guilty as hell of it.
 
2008-09-28 01:27:54 AM  
Churchill2004: America deifies its head of government more than any other liberal democracy on the planet

Seriously. It is bizarre to see. For example, what is the deal with calling people like Bill Clinton, George HW Bush, or Jimmy Carter "President"?? It is moronic. Here's a hint, people - they aren't the president any more. If your boss lost his job, and you saw him in the street, would you call him "sir"? Or Bill (or what his name is)?

Personally, I don't even get the idea of calling them "Mr President" even even they are in office. It is not a title, it is a position. And a position in the public service, for that matter. Do you call your boss "Mr Manager"? More to the point, would you call your employee "Mr Trainee"? Remember, they work for us. In Bush's words, they serve at our pleasure.

In some countries the president or PM is lucky to be called Mr [last name], even while in office. Respect is one thing; deference is entirely another.

All of which is symptomatic and exemplary of the undue deference and respect people give the presidents. They are government employees, and in no way superior to the rest of us. In many ways they are more deserving of our scorn.

It is ridiculous. And in my experience, fairly uniquely American. You would think this is a monarchy sometimes.
 
2008-09-28 04:13:17 AM  

And-1: Churchill2004: America deifies its head of government more than any other liberal democracy on the planet

Seriously. It is bizarre to see. For example, what is the deal with calling people like Bill Clinton, George HW Bush, or Jimmy Carter "President"?? It is moronic. Here's a hint, people - they aren't the president any more. If your boss lost his job, and you saw him in the street, would you call him "sir"? Or Bill (or what his name is)?

Personally, I don't even get the idea of calling them "Mr President" even even they are in office. It is not a title, it is a position. And a position in the public service, for that matter. Do you call your boss "Mr Manager"? More to the point, would you call your employee "Mr Trainee"? Remember, they work for us. In Bush's words, they serve at our pleasure.

In some countries the president or PM is lucky to be called Mr [last name], even while in office. Respect is one thing; deference is entirely another.

All of which is symptomatic and exemplary of the undue deference and respect people give the presidents. They are government employees, and in no way superior to the rest of us. In many ways they are more deserving of our scorn.

It is ridiculous. And in my experience, fairly uniquely American. You would think this is a monarchy sometimes.


Technically, former Presidents aren't supposed to be referred to as President(p). It's a rule that is typically ignored, however.

IIRC, it was Washington who settled the issue of calling the sitting President "Mr. President," as a compromise...some wanted to say "His Higness" or some such shiat, but George would accept nothing more formal than "Mr. President."

/fwiw...
 
2008-09-28 05:10:04 AM  
Fist of an Angry Goddess.

/Yep, I admit it.
//Gimme.
 
2008-09-28 05:19:05 AM  
I love how he grabs the camera for conversational emphasis as though it's the viewer's arm. Reminds me of every insane Scottish uncle ever.
 
2008-09-28 05:20:03 AM  
Right on! You shouldn't deify anyone.

/I so worship him. He's my idol. He's like a god to me.
 
2008-09-28 05:20:13 AM  
Can anyone tell me why he kept fiddling with the camera? Did he have to advance the teleprompter by hand that night? Did he explain it before the clip?
 
2008-09-28 05:36:36 AM  

OnmyojiOmn: Can anyone tell me why he kept fiddling with the camera? Did he have to advance the teleprompter by hand that night? Did he explain it before the clip?


Ruby7: I love how he grabs the camera for conversational emphasis as though it's the viewer's arm. Reminds me of every insane Scottish uncle ever.


Please read thread first. He does that all the time.
 
2008-09-28 05:37:28 AM  

And-1: Seriously. It is bizarre to see. For example, what is the deal with calling people like Bill Clinton, George HW Bush, or Jimmy Carter "President"?? It is moronic. Here's a hint, people - they aren't the president any more. If your boss lost his job, and you saw him in the street, would you call him "sir"? Or Bill (or what his name is)?

Personally, I don't even get the idea of calling them "Mr President" even even they are in office. It is not a title, it is a position. And a position in the public service, for that matter. Do you call your boss "Mr Manager"? More to the point, would you call your employee "Mr Trainee"? Remember, they work for us. In Bush's words, they serve at our pleasure.


Isn't there a cricket game on, you limey pinko bastard?

Kidding.

I don't understand the title thing myself. While they are in office, eh ok. But after they are done? My former boss was invited to a dinner for Carter about two years ago. He called him "Mr. Carter" and was heavily scorned by the supporting staff of the event later on. Apparently despite whatever the proper protocol is "supposed" to be you are referred to as "president (insert name here)" for life. Silly? Maybe. Not really worth fretting over.
 
2008-09-28 05:42:20 AM  

LonMead: Please read thread first.


Er...I assume you don't mean this thread?
 
2008-09-28 05:53:37 AM  

Ruby7: LonMead: Please read thread first.

Er...I assume you don't mean this thread?


Not you. The other guy. They asked a question you had already explained.

/sorry. tired. late at work. etc., etc.,...
 
2008-09-28 06:04:16 AM  

LonMead: sorry. tired. late at work. etc., etc.,...


Cripes, is it really this late? OK, g'night!
 
2008-09-28 06:13:38 AM  
I enjoy Craig Ferguson. He's clever, witty and amusing. He's rarely "LOL" funny, but whenever I see clips of him, he typically makes me smile. Even if I can't be bothered to watch his show, I genuinely enjoy the fact that he has one.

Thanks for sharing, smitty.
 
2008-09-28 06:30:38 AM  

LonMead: OnmyojiOmn: Can anyone tell me why he kept fiddling with the camera? Did he have to advance the teleprompter by hand that night? Did he explain it before the clip?

Ruby7: I love how he grabs the camera for conversational emphasis as though it's the viewer's arm. Reminds me of every insane Scottish uncle ever.

Please read thread first. He does that all the time.


Was simulpost, sort of.
 
2008-09-28 06:35:02 AM  

Churchill2004: Deification of a politician is never a good thing.

Damn straight, Craig. (pops)

America deifies its head of government more than any other liberal democracy on the planet, and it's seriously unhealthy both for the culture and for good government. And both major parties, and both their candidates, are guilty as hell of it.


Try telling that to all the female Sarah Palin groupies that have been putting their hair up and wearing the same style of glasses while waiting for her at stumping events.

I've seen pics of them on the news, but GIS is not as forthcoming or I'd post them inline.
 
2008-09-28 07:11:59 AM  
HAHAHAHA... part time lesbian! That Scotsman is too funny!
 
2008-09-28 07:24:33 AM  
That was some funny shiat.
 
2008-09-28 08:00:52 AM  
Thot magnificent Sco'ish bastard!
 
2008-09-28 08:33:35 AM  
Wow. That was really funny and entertaining. Are his monologues like that every night? I loved that. His jokes weren't as stale or deadpan like the other talk show hosts. He comes on too late for me to ever watch him and I had no idea that he was that funny with the observational stuff. That must have taken hours for him to come up with. Great stuff. I may turn into a fan.
 
2008-09-28 08:35:16 AM  

Churchill2004: Deification of a politician is never a good thing.

Damn straight, Craig. (pops)

America deifies its head of government more than any other liberal democracy on the planet, and it's seriously unhealthy both for the culture and for good government. And both major parties, and both their candidates, are guilty as hell of it.


Never have truer words been spoken. One reason I wish we had a parliamentary system here....just elevate some schmoo from the House of Reps for a four year term; and in between, if the legislative branch has no confidence in your administration, you're out!
 
2008-09-28 08:59:30 AM  

Churchill2004:
America deifies its head of government more than any other liberal democracy on the planet, and it's seriously unhealthy both for the culture and for good government. And both major parties, and both their candidates, are guilty as hell of it.


I'm not entirely sure it's really deification... I think it's actually just an extension of our already-unhealthy tendency to be extreme fans of anything. Presidential elections are treated like sporting events. The emotional link a person feels to their candidate is exactly the same as my friend who is a Red Sox fan and goes into mental meltdown for a week when they lose the pennant.

When I was infuriated after Bush won a second term, a co-worker who is almost gloatingly uneducated and unaware of the news rubbed it in the next day, declaring that the "best man won." It wasn't a political statement, because she didn't know enough to make one. It was the equivalent of reminding me that my team didn't win the Super Bowl.

Americans will emotionally attach them to anything that involves flag-waving and cheering, regardless of what we're actually cheering for.
 
2008-09-28 09:14:28 AM  

And-1: Churchill2004: America deifies its head of government more than any other liberal democracy on the planet

Seriously. It is bizarre to see. For example, what is the deal with calling people like Bill Clinton, George HW Bush, or Jimmy Carter "President"?? It is moronic. Here's a hint, people - they aren't the president any more. If your boss lost his job, and you saw him in the street, would you call him "sir"? Or Bill (or what his name is)?

Personally, I don't even get the idea of calling them "Mr President" even even they are in office. It is not a title, it is a position. And a position in the public service, for that matter. Do you call your boss "Mr Manager"? More to the point, would you call your employee "Mr Trainee"? Remember, they work for us. In Bush's words, they serve at our pleasure.

In some countries the president or PM is lucky to be called Mr [last name], even while in office. Respect is one thing; deference is entirely another.

All of which is symptomatic and exemplary of the undue deference and respect people give the presidents. They are government employees, and in no way superior to the rest of us. In many ways they are more deserving of our scorn.

It is ridiculous. And in my experience, fairly uniquely American. You would think this is a monarchy sometimes.



I could be wrong, but it's used as a term of respect towards the office, not the man.
 
2008-09-28 09:49:08 AM  
People are trained since birth to deify others. They start with He-Man, or whoever the fark is the guy on Pokemans, then they move on to people in Bands or Movies, then some move on to politicians.

It basically serves to detach us from ourselves and our own self importance, making us live vicariously through others.
 
2008-09-28 10:15:29 AM  
www.delawareonline.com
calling former presidents Mr President?
just.... sensless
 
2008-09-28 10:22:46 AM  

Churchill2004: America deifies its head of government more than any other liberal democracy on the planet, and it's seriously unhealthy both for the culture and for good government. And both major parties, and both their candidates, are guilty as hell of it.


I would like to subscribe to your newsletter, and also get a framed 8x10 photo for the shrine. Also, what size halo do you wear?
 
2008-09-28 10:31:33 AM  
Wow, i haven't watched Craig Ferguson show before, but that was an awesome monologue. Is he always this good?
 
2008-09-28 10:40:05 AM  
Intelligent, insightful commentary? It's a good thing this guy isn't on until 12:30 am!
 
2008-09-28 11:18:51 AM  

moralpanic: Wow, i haven't watched Craig Ferguson show before, but that was an awesome monologue. Is he always this good?


Usually. Not always, but he's been great for the past few months - he's more passionate about politics than any of the other hosts by far. The fact that, even after close to four years of covering American politics on his show and seeing the divided mess that our country is, he was not only willing but excited to become an American citizen speaks volumes about the man.

His monologue on why he wouldn't tell jokes about Britney Spears was spectacular.
 
2008-09-28 12:36:35 PM  

LonMead: OnmyojiOmn: Can anyone tell me why he kept fiddling with the camera? Did he have to advance the teleprompter by hand that night? Did he explain it before the clip?

Ruby7: I love how he grabs the camera for conversational emphasis as though it's the viewer's arm. Reminds me of every insane Scottish uncle ever.

Please read thread first. He does that all the time.


Ruby7 2008-09-28 05:19:05 AM

OnmyojiOmn 2008-09-28 05:20:13 AM

I realize it's not exactly a simulpost, but maybe he did, and the Weeners wasn't there?
 
2008-09-28 01:52:27 PM  
Ferguson >>>>> Conan

Sad but true.
 
2008-09-28 02:30:33 PM  
I'm glad to see Craig Ferguson's show getting more popular. I got hooked a few months ago. The dude is just really good at being a talk show host.
 
2008-09-28 04:08:26 PM  
I love Craig. I'd listen to him reading from the Encyclopedia Brittanica with that great accent of his.
 
2008-09-28 05:02:22 PM  

just kat: I love Craig Ferguson. I think he's gotdam hilarious. I try not to watch his show, though, because it keeps me up too late. I say I can watch just the monologue or something like that, but I'm lying. Once it starts i'm hooked. =P


That's because his monologue lasts 50 minutes, leaving the last 10 for a couple guests.

Not that I'm complaining, but the show might as well just be Craig's monologue and reading e-mails.

Because there is always time for e-mails.
 
2008-09-28 08:54:43 PM  
I don't mean to be a hater, but for me, Conan has been played out since about '02.

At least Ferguson tries to tell a story or make a point with his monologue segments. He rips up the pre-written questions and just sorta wings it with his interviews.
Conan just makes weak monologue jokes and asks pre-interview approved stock questions. I'm thinking he's going to bomb hard when they give him Leno's slot.
 
2008-09-28 09:39:22 PM  

NotEric: just kat: I love Craig Ferguson. I think he's gotdam hilarious. I try not to watch his show, though, because it keeps me up too late. I say I can watch just the monologue or something like that, but I'm lying. Once it starts i'm hooked. =P

That's because his monologue lasts 50 minutes, leaving the last 10 for a couple guests.

Not that I'm complaining, but the show might as well just be Craig's monologue and reading e-mails.

Because there is always time for e-mails.


Well there's always time for e-mail on this show,
Yes, there's always time for e-mail on this show,
Yes, there's always time for e-mail
From a guy or gal or she-male
Yes, there's always time for e-mail on this show!

YEE-HAW!
 
2008-09-29 12:35:05 AM  
Churchill2004: Deification of a politician is never a good thing.

Telll that to CNN. Saw an interview they did with the new President of China and kept referring to him as "excellency" and premierre".
 
2008-09-29 01:34:42 AM  
have they cut down on the skits where he dresses up? (sean connery, prince charles etc) cause those were the only real slow moments on his show when i watched it...
 
2008-09-29 03:04:56 AM  
Umokay: Wow. That was really funny and entertaining. Are his monologues like that every night? I loved that. His jokes weren't as stale or deadpan like the other talk show hosts. He comes on too late for me to ever watch him and I had no idea that he was that funny with the observational stuff. That must have taken hours for him to come up with. Great stuff. I may turn into a fan.

He's like that most of the time. Very funny, and like others have already mentioned in here he's the best of the late night guys (better monologue, better interviews, better format). If the show's on too late for you, DVR it and watch the next day. He's definitely worth the time.
 
2008-09-29 04:17:47 AM  

Churchill2004: Deification of a politician is never a good thing.

Damn straight, Craig. (pops)

America deifies its head of government more than any other liberal democracy on the planet, and it's seriously unhealthy both for the culture and for good government. And both major parties, and both their candidates, are guilty as hell of it.


I'd have to disagree. We refer to the sitting heads of other executive branches in the same way, "Mr. President" or "Mr. Prime Minister", depending. And our etiquette explicitly excludes bowing to anyone outside of courting, whereas British ettiquette, for instance, demands a bow when adressing the queen... oh, right, and Britain still has a bloody MONARCHY.

So, at most, second-most deification here. And that's only if you don't count Africa. If our president tried to grab permanent power, rather than getting majority support form the populace he'd get told to go fark himself by about 3 million people. And we're very openly and publicly disrespectful of sitting anything-- can't realy say in relative terms (since I've only been a citizen of one country), but in absolute terms there's not a lot of respect for public figures around here.
 
2008-09-29 11:16:59 AM  

lolmadillo: have they cut down on the skits where he dresses up? (sean connery, prince charles etc) cause those were the only real slow moments on his show when i watched it...


A little. The only one I've been seeing lately is "Ask Aquaman".
 
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