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2008-09-27 09:03:34 PM  

SemperLieSuckah:

My mom usually makes my sandwiches with honey. But since we're out, I'll have to use you instead...

(smile) *wink*


You know, I'm glad the one sword I own is dull, because your head would certainly take the edge off a blade.
 
2008-09-27 09:04:17 PM  
I came to this thread expecting tits...:(
 
Juc
2008-09-27 09:04:53 PM  

MidnightSkulker: If I'd wanted to go into details, I would have. Suffice to say that what he did is both illegal and entirely outside what most people would consider acceptable under any circumstances.


He jay-walked in a fur suit?
 
2008-09-27 09:05:31 PM  

SemperLieSuckah: There is no analogous connection between a reconnaissance mission (BRC class 3-03) and finding women for sex.


Yes there is! You find a target, lock your crosshairs onto it and unleash your load.
 
2008-09-27 09:05:42 PM  

Ringshadow: SemperLieSuckah:

My mom usually makes my sandwiches with honey. But since we're out, I'll have to use you instead...

(smile) *wink*

You know, I'm glad the one sword I own is dull, because your head would certainly take the edge off a blade.


Giggity.
 
2008-09-27 09:05:59 PM  

Ringshadow: SemperLieSuckah:

My mom usually makes my sandwiches with honey. But since we're out, I'll have to use you instead...

(smile) *wink*

You know, I'm glad the one sword I own is dull, because your head would certainly take the edge off a blade.


Not his fault that his skull is resistant to damage and he's physically superior.

You attract more flies with honey sandwiches than vinegar, honey.

Or, maybe if the used the vinegar a different way, there'd be less flies to begin with.
 
2008-09-27 09:06:07 PM  

Spiffjiggins: I came to this thread expecting tits...:(


Blame the chicks, they messed it up with their fag talk.
 
2008-09-27 09:06:24 PM  
So women prefer men who act like men, not p-whipped yes men? Who'da thunk it?
 
2008-09-27 09:06:25 PM  

Spiffjiggins: I came to this thread expecting tits...:(


So shall it be:
t1ts.com
 
2008-09-27 09:06:51 PM  

Spiffjiggins: I came to this thread expecting tits...:(


www.lcsd.gov.hkwww.earthweek.com

dirty hotlinking...
 
2008-09-27 09:07:16 PM  
Honestly, I can't believe no one has posted this yet:

/Don't disappoint me again.
 
2008-09-27 09:07:29 PM  

Richard Pye: Spiffjiggins: I came to this thread expecting tits...:(

Blame the chicks, they messed it up with their fag talk.


I guess there are not enough alpha pheromones present to unlock the BIE...
 
2008-09-27 09:07:41 PM  

Richard Pye: SemperLieSuckah: There is no analogous connection between a reconnaissance mission (BRC class 3-03) and finding women for sex.

Yes there is! You find a target, lock your crosshairs onto it and unleash your load.


Reconaissance != an assault team. 6 dudes with M4s, no kevlar, and 100 lb pax that have been sleep-deprived for days ain't gonna kick anyone's ass.
 
2008-09-27 09:08:01 PM  

Clever Neologism: Madbassist1:
By your line of thinking, a homosexual could turn hetero and a hetero could turn homo...successfully. Do you feel this way? This is why I say your philosophy is headed down a bad road.

Why is this a bad road? Personally, I don't care where along the spectrum of physiology->psychology->rationality/choice this is, it is irrelevant to any consideration of it.

But to answer your question, I think *some* people may have this ability. It would be a bisexual who periodically switches from being attracted to men to being attracted to women based upon their own self-reinforcement (i.e. constantly remembering a bad homosexual relationship to reinforce being heterosexual). A 1 or a 7 on the Kinsey scale would find it impossible. The trouble here is you are treating something as dicohotomous, which is fine generally, but when you really get down to it, is nothing of the sort.


Call me an unevolved cretin, but I am not going to be attracted to men...ever...no matter how much reinforcement is given or forced upon me. Aint gonna happen. I guess I havent reached your enlightened level of thinking...nor do I want to.

As a general rule, I dont think people can control who they are attracted to, though they may try. Trying to control who you are attracted to merely leads to stress (the psycological definition) and is bad for you.

as a side note, I feel people who claim to be bisexual are mentally traumatized in some form or other.
 
2008-09-27 09:08:38 PM  

Richard Pye: Spiffjiggins: I came to this thread expecting tits...:(

Blame the chicks, they messed it up with their fag talk.


If they were where they belong (in the kitchen), we would have much more productive conversations.

Seriously, women have been cooking and gathering for a long time, and men have always done the thinking/ruling. Don't mess up a good thing by flapping your mouth.
 
2008-09-27 09:08:49 PM  

Madbassist1: As a general rule, I dont think people can control who they are attracted to, though they may try.


I'm sexually attracted to Gilbert Gottfried. The sex talk would be outstanding.
 
2008-09-27 09:08:50 PM  
Big surprise. Women like to fark abusive men but not marry them, and men want to fark sluts but not marry them.
 
2008-09-27 09:08:51 PM  

CleverGuy81:

Ha, well, never played GURPS, and CoC only rarely, but I'm a big fan of the old marvel rpg (www.marvelrpg.net), and I've played 3ed more than I should admit to, being as embittered as I am. What are your bachelors/associates in?


I've actually never played GURPS, my brother runs CoC occasionally though. I'm honestly an Old WoD fan, but my gaming group is gone, which sucks.
Bachelor's in Networking and Communications, graduated right after the bubble burst on that. That was in '04, and after struggling for a few years I've given up and gone back. Just started again for Power Production, hoping to specialize in Radiation Protection.
 
2008-09-27 09:09:06 PM  

Funsucker: You can be a confident successful stud of a man and also not be a complete prick.


Pretty much. There's being strong and then there's being an absolute asshole.

Everyone (male and female) has a desire to be taken care of in some respect, societal cues just tell us how to do it. Women are to feed their men well and men are to provide their women with moneys.

It's still societal sexist bs and this woman attempting to cloak it in "biology" is just as sexist.

She is a detriment to feminists everywhere. And something of an idiot.
 
2008-09-27 09:09:09 PM  

Nels: You attract more flies with honey sandwiches than vinegar, honey.


newmedia.funnyjunk.com
 
2008-09-27 09:09:51 PM  

Nels: Ringshadow: SemperLieSuckah:

My mom usually makes my sandwiches with honey. But since we're out, I'll have to use you instead...

(smile) *wink*

You know, I'm glad the one sword I own is dull, because your head would certainly take the edge off a blade.

Not his fault that his skull is resistant to damage and he's physically superior.

You attract more flies with honey sandwiches than vinegar, honey.

Or, maybe if the used the vinegar a different way, there'd be less flies to begin with.


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2008-09-27 09:10:02 PM  
One more time. Damn.
 
2008-09-27 09:10:50 PM  

oregoncat: Big surprise. Women like to fark abusive men but not marry them, and men want to fark sluts but not marry them.


So if we didn't marry...

We'd all be happy?
 
2008-09-27 09:11:09 PM  
Subby is a shiatwad, dog-sucking, worthless waste of gravity. AFAICT, didn't post one motherfarking DIT or make any entrance whatsoever. Now I'm going to have to get off my lazy ass and turn on the TV to see WTF's going on, IF ANYTHING. Thanks, asshat. No. Know what? I'm not falling for your shiat. I'm going to sit right here and continue drinking my soju. I hope the real nuke lands just close enough to you to give you just enough radiation sickness that you spend two weeks shiatting your intestinal lining and decomposing leukocytes before you succumb in paroxysms of apneic agony.
 
2008-09-27 09:11:21 PM  
Dammit, my joke got buried and nobody appreciated it. Now I'ma hafta choke a biatch.
 
2008-09-27 09:11:32 PM  

Nels: Seriously, women have been cooking and gathering for a long time, and men have always done the thinking/ruling. Don't mess up a good thing by flapping your mouth.


Don't kid yourself; the gathering fed folks many a night when the hunters missed the prey, and the women would have had a say in decisions. Men & women make a good team.
 
2008-09-27 09:11:51 PM  
And yes, I'm aware that "you're" is misspelled in that picture.
 
2008-09-27 09:12:09 PM  

techmom: Men & women make a good team.


For divorce lawyers maybe.
 
2008-09-27 09:12:10 PM  
Clever Neologism:
If fact, taking active interest in your own species' or groups' survival *over your own* is anathema to evolution itself. If what you say were true, no one would willingly die for any reason: you can't procreate when you are dead.


Not really. Sacrifice yourself for your kids, for example, and your genes live on. True, if less so, for your nephews and nieces also, and so on with more extended relatives.
 
2008-09-27 09:12:27 PM  

rava: Funsucker: You can be a confident successful stud of a man and also not be a complete prick.

that's true. but there's something pretty hot about a guy who doesn't mind talking a little shiat to you.


Hey babe, it's not gonna suck itself!

/Too much?
 
2008-09-27 09:12:49 PM  

rostit: Subby is a shiatwad, dog-sucking, worthless waste of gravity. AFAICT, didn't post one motherfarking DIT or make any entrance whatsoever. Now I'm going to have to get off my lazy ass and turn on the TV to see WTF's going on, IF ANYTHING. Thanks, asshat. No. Know what? I'm not falling for your shiat. I'm going to sit right here and continue drinking my soju. I hope the real nuke lands just close enough to you to give you just enough radiation sickness that you spend two weeks shiatting your intestinal lining and decomposing leukocytes before you succumb in paroxysms of apneic agony.


Subby is a shiatwad, dog-sucking, worthless waste of gravity. AFAICT, didn't post one motherfarking DIT or make any entrance whatsoever. Now I'm going to have to get off my lazy ass and turn on the TV to see WTF's going on, IF ANYTHING. Thanks, asshat. No. Know what? I'm not falling for your shiat. I'm going to sit right here and continue drinking my soju. I hope the real nuke lands just close enough to you to give you just enough radiation sickness that you spend two weeks shiatting your intestinal lining and decomposing leukocytes before you succumb in paroxysms of apneic agony.
 
2008-09-27 09:13:21 PM  
WTF? I posted an image twice, each time the preview showed the image just fine, then nothin' on the post.


/intertubes hate me
 
2008-09-27 09:13:24 PM  
furthermore

notice the significance in the forceful set of "family values", "Morals","Culture" and ideas on sexuality and how these things have either turned for the worse or actually transformed progressively


repression, ignorance and lack of general education out of fear created from Religion and also fear of the unknown have continued to keep us as an Orobourus so to speak.


we have so much potential, yet the most idiotic and ignorant ones among us are the types to espouse arrogance over our supposed hierarchy of existence and superiority over other animals on earth and those that may exist elsewhere in the Universe

take a look at the people that are more likely to procreate

take a look at how these people continue to not only waste their lives by leading a typical one of the "american dream" or being complacent concerning their own existence

take a look at people that utilize their potential without a care of what society expects of them, how they help our evolution and inspire others to do the same


yet these people are either admired in some "man I wish I was able to live a life like that, or " If only I didn't fall for the typical life and procreate and marry just because it's the thing to do in society" way or mocked


our anti-intellectualism sentiment and attitude in this country, combined with all that I've mentioned holds a great significance and is NOT mere biology or mere coincidence
 
2008-09-27 09:13:26 PM  

techmom: Nels: Seriously, women have been cooking and gathering for a long time, and men have always done the thinking/ruling. Don't mess up a good thing by flapping your mouth.

Don't kid yourself; the gathering fed folks many a night when the hunters missed the prey, and the women would have had a say in decisions. Men & women make a good team.


Yes, but roots and berried aren't nearly as calorically dense as meat. Therefore I think a proper ratio is about 1 man to 5 women.
 
Juc
2008-09-27 09:13:34 PM  

Richard Pye: I'm sexually attracted to Gilbert Gottfried. The sex talk would be outstanding.


you'd leave him for bob saggat, admit it, you know it to be true.
 
2008-09-27 09:13:51 PM  

techmom: Nels: Seriously, women have been cooking and gathering for a long time, and men have always done the thinking/ruling. Don't mess up a good thing by flapping your mouth.

Don't kid yourself; the gathering fed folks many a night when the hunters missed the prey, and the women would have had a say in decisions. Men & women make a good team.


Men never missed the target unless a women ran out there and scared the animal by spraying vaginal blood all over the place because she was pissed that she couldn't figure out how to light the pilot on the cooking fire.
 
2008-09-27 09:13:58 PM  
Forget sexist Alphas:
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Do Not Want!

I like Lambdas:
img529.imageshack.us
Geek Love!

/is a nerd
//married a nerd
///it's true about the nerds thinking about nothing but sex thing
////happiest wife on earth
 
2008-09-27 09:14:03 PM  

Ringshadow: CleverGuy81:

I've actually never played GURPS, my brother runs CoC occasionally though. I'm honestly an Old WoD fan, but my gaming group is gone, which sucks.
Bachelor's in Networking and Communications, graduated right after the bubble burst on that. That was in '04, and after struggling for a few years I've given up and gone back. Just started again for Power Production, hoping to specialize in Radiation Protection.


Used to play WoD pretty regularly, and an old friend has recently started a new storyline. Lives in NYC, though, so my PA friends and I will have to be patient.

yeah, I graduated '04 with a B.A. in psych, but there's never been a bubble in that. fortunately, teaching college doesn't seem to be going out of style. ::crosses fingers::
 
2008-09-27 09:14:52 PM  
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2008-09-27 09:14:55 PM  

Juc: Richard Pye: I'm sexually attracted to Gilbert Gottfried. The sex talk would be outstanding.

you'd leave him for bob saggat, admit it, you know it to be true.


i225.photobucket.com

Wow. In a heartbeat.
 
2008-09-27 09:15:26 PM  
Summary:

Nice guys, demonstrably, finish last.

ALL FEMALES ARE WHORES.

Gotcha.

/i'm not sexist, i just don't like whores
 
2008-09-27 09:17:30 PM  

Walkenstein: furthermore


i65.photobucket.com
 
2008-09-27 09:17:48 PM  

Nels: Walkenstein:

You talk like a fag retard, and your shiat's all retarded faggy


FTFY

BTW, still waiting on that 'shop.
 
2008-09-27 09:19:24 PM  
-One of the positives of acting like a douche is you don't have to worry about using the kind of women that are attracted to them. They neither want nor deserve your respect...
 
2008-09-27 09:19:59 PM  

GoddessofSnowandIce: Forget sexist Alphas:

Do Not Want!

I like Lambdas:

Geek Love!

/is a nerd
//married a nerd
///it's true about the nerds thinking about nothing but sex thing
////happiest wife on earth


Would you rather

1) a smart guy who is socially outgoing and has an iron body

2) a smart guy who lives in his mom's basement and has boils forming between the folds of fat

There's more to being an alpha male than the dumb brute. It requires strength, intelligence, attitude, and many other factors.

You must become the ubermensch, repress the untermensch.
 
2008-09-27 09:20:07 PM  

SemperLieSuckah: Yes, but roots and berried aren't nearly as calorically dense as meat. Therefore I think a proper ratio is about 1 man to 5 women.


Starches & oils are important (i.e., grains & seeds), as well as other vitamins for a balanced diet. Unless you're in an arctic environment where you can readily get prey with a thick layer of bodyfat, people cannot survive on a diet of lean meat. Inuit can survive on a mostly-meat diet because of all the blubber etc., but in other climes the 'roots & berries' become more important.

Moreover, unless you're assuming guns, many hunts fail. You need more men than you postulate, because of the failure rate and because hunting larger prey is more dangerous (higher attrition rate).
 
2008-09-27 09:20:26 PM  
Walkenstein Quote 2008-09-27 08:58:32 PM
here's a few things that need to be said and the people in this thread are too retarded to acknowledge or understand


1.) gender is partial social construct


Don't agree. By definition, it is 100% socially constructed. Call it semantics...


2.) There are multiple sexes


Really?


3.) to reinforce trog-era biology stereotypes is a circular logic self-fulfilling prophecy and prevents our evolution as HUMANS, regardless of sex


Hey, I just faked throwing a punch at you, and you flinched. It's hardwired. So are how men and women react to one another.

You're framing this argument poorly. They are not stereotypes, they are simply types. You can change the paint job, but the chassis is still what it is; culture, to some extent will mediate what a woman or man finds attractive, but women will be most attracted to a partner who displays characteristics that are heritable and advantageous.


4.) sex, sexual arousal, sexual identity and sexual behaviors are both simple and complex in their significance and function........

part procreation( for SOME male & female relationships)

part primal urges

part sentient activity

part subconscious activity

part our identity combined with our individuality


You sound like a fortune teller.


5.)there are small differences between males and females in their biology, but as part of the larger picture and mind of reason, the only major differences are


girls have a vagina, boys have a penis


Wow, that is profoundly incorrect.


that's it, and for us to act, think and feel like we are so alien to each other is a reinforcement of continual ignorance, lack of enlightenment, immaturity and a pathetic need to hold onto the past and simple explanations for things because it's easier that way


grow up, basically


Wrong, wrong, wrong. Men and women *are* somewhat alien to one another. We value different things, we relate to one another differently. One obstacle in communication is NOT acknowledging that a women sees the world differently. Likewise, she will be frustrated if she doesn't understand that men see things differently than she does.


6.) Women in the 21st century that have yet to evolve enough to NOT fall for the same traps and the alpha/beta un-evolved bullshiat= PATHETIC


Whoa, dude. Even if it were true, I would advise not saying that to a woman's face. You need to get out more, brother.


7.) Men that are the same and fall for the simplistic trog bullshiat with whom they are attracted to= PATHETIC


Try it sometime, you might like it.


8.) each sex needs to forget about gender roles, gender as identity, gender stereotypes,etc and just focus on


I agree, men and women should be realistic as to how they behave.


a.) being stronger for themselves and the others around them that need them to be strong at certain times


Hmm?


b.) being strong willed

Hmm? Hmm?


c.) not subservient to the opposite sex, the rich elite or anything you perceive to be stronger than yourself
The Man *is* keeping us down.


d.) living your own life without caring what society and each sex expects of you


Cool!


gender is a human and social construct as is sex


What was I thinking? Sex is sham! Wow, what a relief.


to hold restraint, repress or discourage our progress and healthy relationships with each other as HUMANS, we will continue to stay in the past and all die looking so utterly pathetic for not seeing past petty differences.


Can I interest you in a copy of "The Watchtower"?


We will die as segregated groups in culture, sex, race and thought


Really? I thought men and women were buried in the same graves...
 
2008-09-27 09:20:30 PM  

MOONSLOTH: Clever Neologism: MOONSLOTH:
Everything our moral standards aim for is ultimately in the name of the proliferation of our species. farking is part of this.

I am well aware of this line of thought, and, yes, that is where basic morality comes from. We are past this point, we are conscious beings with the ability to make informed, rational decisions. It's just that many choose not to.

Yes, many people choose not to employ any real kind of rationality when facing various decision-making situations. A significant portion of the Complete Human Experience is derived from the subjection of oneself to irrational, emotional decisions, and the experience -- in real-time, not from a dissociated, sufficiently informed, purely rational perspective -- of the ensuing human drama. Maybe this analysis is overly romantic, but I think herein lies the appeal of irrational thought in moderation.

This is why the machines we create will eventually supplant us in the evolutionary chain. Doesn't mean we're not still having a better time than they will.


the situations we get ourselves into

the slow self destruction

the apathy

the maintained ignorance and cognitive dissonance

the masochistic relationships we get ourselves into

our complacency

etc,etc,etc

stds, drug abuse and other addictions, credit debt, lack of personal responsibility, ascribing to a silly storybook for guidance, comfort and will, abusive relationships, the typical employee/employer relationship the masses get themselves into (serfdom is pathetic ya know)

we've already begun to slowly kill ourselves and spirit with the aforementioned, and the next inevitable step will be us creating a machine or set of machines( perhaps I,Robot/ Do androids dream of electric sheep?/transhumanist movement) that will either rule us, kill us or cause us to kill ourselves
 
2008-09-27 09:21:41 PM  

GoddessofSnowandIce: Forget sexist Alphas:

Do Not Want!


Uhm, that guy's not an alpha. He's a physically stronger form of omega. AKA: a douche bag. An alpha has to actually ATTRACT women.
 
2008-09-27 09:21:48 PM  

cowsspinach: I believe all men want a woman to take care of them in a "submissive" way.

I also believe that all women want their men to take care of them in an emotional manner. I also think we all want the same thing, someone to just love us for us.


both sexes want all things

there is no such thing as anything else
 
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