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(CNN)   Woman puts up $1 million to get Jewish families to move to Alabama. Because if there's one thing Alabama welcomes, it's people who are different   (cnn.com) divider line 72
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2008-09-24 04:42:39 PM  
An email from a friend of mine when I asked her if she was involved:

No, I'm not involved in it, although I know the people who are in Dothan and understand their desire to continue their Jewish community. It will be interesting to see how well they do. This has been going on for a while, at least several months ago,they started talking about it and then it was finalized a couple of months ago. Their town is part of the Jewish Federation of Central Alabama, and I was president of that organization last year.
 
2008-09-24 04:46:24 PM  
Tired of ovens? We gots fire hoses!

/how many more times will this story be posted?
//how much lower must my comments sink?
 
2008-09-24 06:34:00 PM  
NikolaiFarkoff: Tired of ovens? We gots fire hoses!

/how many more times will this story be posted?
//how much lower must my comments sink?


Not until your comments hang as low as Paris Hilton's vagina.
 
2008-09-24 06:34:19 PM  
If nothing else, this should be good for Dothan's stock market and sitcom writing industries.

Oh, wait.
 
2008-09-24 06:35:09 PM  
Woman puts up $1 million to get Jewish families to move to Alabama....where they will be swiftly attacked by neo-nazis.

sydlexia.com
 
2008-09-24 06:35:39 PM  
The Power of Positive Drinking: NikolaiFarkoff: Tired of ovens? We gots fire hoses!

/how many more times will this story be posted?
//how much lower must my comments sink?

Not until your comments hang as low as Paris Hilton's vagina.


Leave the gefiltefishcurtains out of this.
 
2008-09-24 06:36:28 PM  
They would also give $50,000 for Arabs to stay away
 
2008-09-24 06:39:51 PM  
That will buy a couple trailers.
 
2008-09-24 06:40:16 PM  
Wow, they try that around this part of NC there would be hell to pay, due to them destroying prophecy since all the Jews have to move to Israel so it can be destroyed and Jesus returns. Scary thing is I heard this from several people in the town as a great way to force people out.
 
2008-09-24 06:40:18 PM  
Because if there's one thing Jesusland needs, it's more Jews!

//not that I mind
//I'd take a reform Jew over a fundie Jesus tard in a heartbeat
 
2008-09-24 06:41:37 PM  
great headline subby +1
 
2008-09-24 06:43:08 PM  
This isn't surprising; small Jewish communities all over the Unites States are dying, and the bulk of those that existed 50 years ago are already gone. Most American Jews live in major metropolitan areas now. For more observant Jews, the appeal of the cities is that a critical mass of people means more targeted businesses and services, like day schools, active synagogues, and kosher pizza shops and butchers. For more secular Jews, the appeal of the urban areas is the same as anyone else, heavily weighted by the fact that American Jews tend to be both very educated and very liberal, and therefore more likely than average to want to live in a big city.

Judaism is as fragmented a religion as Christianity is, perhaps more so, except that with so few people to start with each stream and substream of Judaism correspondingly smaller. In NYC, LA, or a handful of other places, there will be other people with similar religious views to join together for services, holidays, and cultural activities. In small town Alabama, not so much.
 
2008-09-24 06:43:30 PM  
Think of the jewish families as the mormons and the alabamans as the native americans that were living in utah. It's a model that can work if you are united and ruthless.
 
2008-09-24 06:43:31 PM  
gorgor: That will buy a couple trailers.

Pic Please
/you slippin
 
2008-09-24 06:43:46 PM  
Danger Avoid Death

WIN
 
2008-09-24 06:44:21 PM  
Yea, the blacks here aren't very tolerant. Should see how they treat the Mexicans.
 
2008-09-24 06:49:44 PM  
drjekel_mrhyde: gorgor: That will buy a couple trailers.

Pic Please
/you slippin


WHUT? (new window)
 
2008-09-24 06:52:07 PM  
xuanzhiyouxuan: Think of the jewish families as the mormons and the alabamans as the native americans that were living in utah. It's a model that can work if you are united and ruthless.

What, the Jews are going to kill off the Alabamans by conspiring to do their taxes wrong?
 
2008-09-24 06:52:54 PM  
Let me be the first to welcome Jews to Alabama. Anything to break up the New Testament Belt and pork BBQ monopolies.
 
2008-09-24 06:54:55 PM  
www.originsofourfaith.com

I'll pay any cost to get more Jews into Alabama ... like these.
 
2008-09-24 06:56:15 PM  
And when I first ventured out of the South, I was shocked at how strongly Wallace was associated with Alabama and its people... Ya know racism is a worldwide problem and it's been since the beginning of recorded history... and it ain't just white and black... But thanks to George Wallace, it's always a little more convenient to play it with a Southern accent.
 
2008-09-24 06:58:02 PM  
People in the south are funny (strange, not ha ha). They act all nice all the time and are very polite but then they support violent wackos in government and religion. I relocated to Oklahoma from Buffalo, NY and have never had any problems with the people here but can't help but imagine a ticking noise when I talk to them, like a bomb just waiting for a charismatic psycho to give the signal.

At least up North people show more of their inner-jerk and get it out of their system.
 
2008-09-24 07:01:07 PM  
That's the Dothan with the Chamber of Commerce sign "Come, Let us go unto Dothan" from THE Bible. Take that Ozark!
 
2008-09-24 07:01:50 PM  
subtard or modmins used wrong tag.

it's img1.fark.net NOT img1.fark.net

/wishes they'd do that for single men looking for a nice jewish girl
//assets would be handy when she divorces me!
///seihsals
 
2008-09-24 07:02:48 PM  
hitlersbrain: People in the south are funny (strange, not ha ha). They act all nice all the time and are very polite but then they support violent wackos in government and religion. I relocated to Oklahoma from Buffalo, NY and have never had any problems with the people here but can't help but imagine a ticking noise when I talk to them, like a bomb just waiting for a charismatic psycho to give the signal.

At least up North people show more of their inner-jerk and get it out of their system.


Sad but true about your observations of many white Southerns. Very nice and polite to your face. But, when it's dark, when nobody is looking, or they're surrounded by family and friends, the true Southerns comes out as they don their white hoods.
 
2008-09-24 07:04:05 PM  
Anyone see that Top Gear episode where they go to a southern state (I forget which one...) and they spraypaint each others cars with various...*different* slogans and decorations. e.g. Vote Hillary.

YEp.
 
2008-09-24 07:04:15 PM  
FTFA: "Dothan prides itself on being progressive and different from the stereotype of the Deep South city."

Yeah, and McCain prides himself on being a maverick. Don't make it true, either.

Lived in that craphole for a few years. 50k wouldn't make me move back.
 
2008-09-24 07:07:03 PM  
AirForceVet

Why would you pay for average looking women?
 
2008-09-24 07:07:13 PM  
SwallowTheKnife: Anyone see that Top Gear episode where they go to a southern state (I forget which one...) and they spraypaint each others cars with various...*different* slogans and decorations. e.g. Vote Hillary.

YEp.


They drove from Florida to New Orleans, and yes, they wrote "Nascar is rubbish" on the side of Jeremy's Camaro.
 
2008-09-24 07:08:14 PM  
I thought about putting up money to send Republicans to Berkeley, but thought better of it when I realized that they'd be immediately wiped out by the proponents of multiculti tolerance.
 
2008-09-24 07:08:49 PM  
Look, if you gave ANYONE $1 mil to move to Alabama, they'll be different based on the fact that they have $1 mil. so ... lose-lose situation, except for the millionaire.
 
2008-09-24 07:12:15 PM  
Danger Avoid Death: xuanzhiyouxuan: Think of the jewish families as the mormons and the alabamans as the native americans that were living in utah. It's a model that can work if you are united and ruthless.

What, the Jews are going to kill off the Alabamans by conspiring to do their taxes wrong?


As far as I know, mormons didn't excel at keeping track of wampum and "doing taxes" is not a common jewish stereotype. What's your point?
 
2008-09-24 07:13:01 PM  
jjorsett: I thought about putting up money to send Republicans to Berkeley, but thought better of it when I realized that they'd be immediately wiped out by the proponents of multiculti tolerance.

That's a very dangerous idea. One of the Republicans might have an original thought and the universe would explode.
 
2008-09-24 07:14:18 PM  
xuanzhiyouxuan: Danger Avoid Death: xuanzhiyouxuan: Think of the jewish families as the mormons and the alabamans as the native americans that were living in utah. It's a model that can work if you are united and ruthless.

What, the Jews are going to kill off the Alabamans by conspiring to do their taxes wrong?

As far as I know, mormons didn't excel at keeping track of wampum and "doing taxes" is not a common jewish stereotype. What's your point?



It's very common unless you live under a rock.
 
2008-09-24 07:15:05 PM  
AirForceVet: I'll pay any cost to get more Jews into Alabama ... like these.

It's a trap!!! Don't fall for it!!!
 
2008-09-24 07:18:26 PM  
Booooooo, I submitted this story last week with a better headline.

\Seriously did.
\\Also, I'm a Jew living in Dothan
\\\Okay, maybe not Dothan, but close enough (Ft. Rucker/Enterprise)
 
2008-09-24 07:21:33 PM  
I lol'd at the headline.

+1 if I were a TFer.
 
2008-09-24 07:23:00 PM  
i should make this offer here in Dublin.

Haven't met a single jew since i moved here.
 
2008-09-24 07:25:39 PM  
From the article: "Being a Jew living in Dothan for 20 years, I have never experienced any anti-Semitism," said Daryl Shapiro.

But don't let facts get in the way of a convenient stereotype.

/I live in Alabama now. Lived in Tampa, Seattle, and Houston before. Tolerance and intolerance live side-by-side everywhere. It's important for those on the East Coast and West Coast to feel "more-antiracist-than-thou," and thus superior. For Flyover Staters, it's important to be feel "more-patriotic-than-thou," and thus superior. Lord, don't every try to challenge either one on it.
 
2008-09-24 07:30:36 PM  
TnJed: And when I first ventured out of the South, I was shocked at how strongly Wallace was associated with Alabama and its people... Ya know racism is a worldwide problem and it's been since the beginning of recorded history... and it ain't just white and black... But thanks to George Wallace, it's always a little more convenient to play it with a Southern accent.

Yeah, that unfortunate stereotype comes from association with George Wallace.

Oh, there was that whole 'slavery' thing, lynchings, the KKK, all that stuff... but mostly it's Wallace.
 
2008-09-24 07:31:17 PM  
For $1 million bucks I'll be Jewish. People tell me I do a mean Jackie Mason.
 
2008-09-24 07:34:26 PM  
the only person i know from alabama is jewish...
 
2008-09-24 07:34:49 PM  
Heh. Wasn't I making this whole point in another thread recently?

They'd be welcomed in Michigan... As long as they don't move to Dearborn, Holland or Frankenmuth.

OK, so they may not want to live in the city of Saginaw, Detroit, or Flint, either.

But otherwise, Michigan's a melting pot, unlike most of the south where they even discriminate against other white people if they happen to be from the north. I know a professor who went down south and was told by her students that they "weren't going to listen to no Yankee teacher."

Yeah. Really.

Sometimes I think Mr. Lincoln should have just let the CSA have their little country with slavery and a bad economy. They'd be a third-world nation by now, and they would have given up slavery within a few more decades, anyway. Meanwhile, the Union wouldn't have to put up with their farking up our elections by voting for dimbulbs like George W. Bush AFTER he'd been screwing up for four years.

And we'd have less crappy country music, too.
 
2008-09-24 07:43:14 PM  
Meet the neighbours!
politicalpartypoop.com

Linked from here. Yes, this is the kind of thing that goes on in Alabama, and the typical "polite old-fashioned Southerner" is right behind it.
 
2008-09-24 07:43:56 PM  
Typical bigotry and stereotyping, as usual.

If you would have done your homework, subby, you would know that hate crimes in Alabama occur less frequently than in Michigan, New York, or most of the "liberal, enlightened" States.

If you had checked demographics, you would know: Blacks in particular are migrating out of the north and back to the south; have been for decades. They tend to move more frequently than whites, and they always go where conditions are the best.

The type of bigotry you describe has not been practiced for over 50 years, and was strongly denounced even then.

You suck, subby; you are a chickensh*t little punk, and you don't know what you are talking about.
 
2008-09-24 07:46:02 PM  
What do you call a million Jews in Alabama?
 
2008-09-24 07:48:32 PM  
"Because if there's one thing Alabama welcomes, it's people who are different"

The South is over 50% black, the highest rate of America's 4 regions. I ask rhetorically: is it not somewhat dimwitted for a region with x% black people to accuse a region with 2x% black people of being racist? Is it not just plain dumb for a racially homogeneous region to accuse a racially diverse region of being racist? 40% of Americans don't have a passport; by which meaningful standard would Southerners be considered racist if you've only been to a handful of other countries?
 
2008-09-24 07:51:00 PM  
Now, we should make it clear that these are Jews, and not Israelis.

There's a BIG difference. American Jews are, for the most part, good-natured, even-tempered, open-minded people who try to get along with their neighbors.

Israelis are very frequently militant, touchy, and clandestine.

I've lived around both. I like Jews a lot (great talkers, great hosts), but I can't say I've gotten along with Israelis. They're "take no shiat" people and they have a chip on their shoulder. They jump to conclusions and will fight you to prove a point. If they're recent immigrants, they will remind you that every Israeli citizen of both genders must serve in their military, and that they could kick your ass if they so desired.

At least that has been my experience.

Still, I'll take an Israeli neighbor over a Chaldean one. Israelis have an immense amount of pride in their heritage, but Chaldeans have an immense amount of bravado when it comes to their religion, which unfortunately makes their moral compass spin in questionable ways.

Let me put it this way: All the biggest thieves, liars, and con artists that I've known have been Chaldean, and they felt no remorse about it. I've been held up at gunpoint at work, and it wasn't a Black guy or a Jew-- It was a Chaldean. I've had my store trashed for kicks, and it wasn't by Mexicans or Muslims-- It was by Chaldeans.

Maybe I just lived in an area with the worst of them, but in my experience, the combination of Catholicism and Arabic/Persian cultural background results in an ethically-challenged individual.

No, I'm not racist. I'm culturist. Skin color or heritage don't matter to me at all (actually, I'm fascinated by people from other backgrounds), but cultures that make shiatting on other people a priority tend to make me dislike their group.

Actions speak louder than words... and when the culture calls for questionable actions, it trumps my optimism.
 
2008-09-24 07:52:45 PM  
TheUltimateLink: Booooooo, I submitted this story last week with a better headline.

\Seriously did.
\\Also, I'm a Jew living in Dothan
\\\Okay, maybe not Dothan, but close enough (Ft. Rucker/Enterprise)


How's the boll weevil doing?

I wish they wanted secular jews. I want to move.
 
2008-09-24 07:54:05 PM  
olddinosaur: Typical bigotry and stereotyping, as usual.

If you would have done your homework, subby, you would know that hate crimes in Alabama occur less frequently than in Michigan, New York, or most of the "liberal, enlightened" States.


Really? Do hate crimes really occur less frequently, or are they simply reported less from that state because the victims fear or repercussions from their "friends" and "neighbors"?

If you had checked demographics, you would know: Blacks in particular are migrating out of the north and back to the south; have been for decades. They tend to move more frequently than whites, and they always go where conditions are the best.

Back when my father and mother moved from Charlotte NC to philadelphia PA in 1963, economics was a key factor then too, with racism a close second. So?

The type of bigotry you describe has not been practiced for over 50 years, and was strongly denounced even then.


Tell that to my relatives still living in North and South Carolina, Georgia and Florida. I do believe they would disagree with you.
I myself was born in Charlotte, and when I go to visit my relatives I am subtly (and sometimes not so subtly) reminded of my "place".
This is why I don't visit as often as I'd like.
 
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