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2008-09-24 07:33:15 AM  
I came here to see pictures of Campbell Brown but I was seriously disappointed.
 
2008-09-24 07:37:10 AM  
Palin is no different than Reagan or Carter or (Bill) Clinton, all former governor's without international experience. Not everyone seeking the Presidency has the sterling resume that GHW Bush had going in.
 
2008-09-24 07:37:15 AM  
Just wait until Sarah gets to deal with our economy.

Seriously...I'm thinking more and more this dumb-ass nation is going to elect McCain and President Palin.
 
2008-09-24 07:37:23 AM  

LowPlainsDrifter: sloppy shoes: I think Brown's argument would have had more weight if she had just come out and said, "I don't have problems with her as a woman, I have problems with her as a candidate. She wants to be a nationally elected official yet refuses to be interviewed. If she were a man, the press would have a field day with this."

She should have called out the politics of sexism that McCain's camp is using to their advantage.

Or, put another way, even if it was sexism, in issues like this, you don't get anywhere by whining. Even the most traditional or joking of you out there, you have to admit you were probably very impressed with the ladies of the view when they played hardball with McCain. And, at least in my local circles, it made much more of a statement than CB's silly editorial ever will.

I don't know about that first paragraph. Reagan did wonderful by essentially avoiding the press (mostly) when he was running. Nobody had a field day with him and no, times have not changed that much.

Avoiding the press is laudable in my view. They're a bunch of parasites and small minded toads with agendas. Were I not in line with their agenda and running for office in a high profile way I would probably give them the bird too. Hell, they've done everything in their power to smear this woman, whether truthful or lies (oops, I meant exaggerating reality, sorry). From that alone she's justified in snubbing them.

Her qualifications for the office of vice president are fine. Her job will be to sit there and smile when the senate declares Pudding Awareness Month. Big deal. And if the President dies, yeah she takes the helm, but let's be real, the President really isn't as powerful as everybody makes the office out to be. Congress is the entity with the actual power. The President is more or less a figurehead that diverts our attention away from the real power plays (not intentionally, but that's how it works out).


The media, most of it, anyway, does not just want to innocently interview Palin. They want to throw brickbats and rotten fruit at her. Each one of these Totally Unbiased JournalistsTM want to be the one that single-handedly does what Dan Rather tried and failed to do---successfully torpedo a Republican ticket.
 
2008-09-24 07:38:07 AM  

impaler: Geraldine Ferraro called, she wants her glass cutter back.


Ferraro is a great woman, and probably holds Palin in high regard.
 
2008-09-24 07:39:52 AM  

LowPlainsDrifter: Her qualifications for the office of vice president are fine. Her job will be to sit there and smile when the senate declares Pudding Awareness Month. Big deal. And if the President dies, yeah she takes the helm, but let's be real, the President really isn't as powerful as everybody makes the office out to be. Congress is the entity with the actual power. The President is more or less a figurehead that diverts our attention away from the real power plays (not intentionally, but that's how it works out).


It's that the line now? Who cares if she's incompetent, she won't be able to hurt anything anyway?
 
2008-09-24 07:40:06 AM  

LowPlainsDrifter: senate declares Pudding Awareness Month.


Don't tease me.

That would be so awesome. More pudding everywhere...it is chock full of win.
 
2008-09-24 07:40:14 AM  
Oh, and think of what the reaction would be if the entire Democratic establishment AND Obama voters started calling Biden "Joe" every time he came up in conversation or on camera.

But "Sarah", it seems, is perfectly fine.
 
2008-09-24 07:41:12 AM  

Phil Herup: Ferraro is a great woman, and probably holds Palin in high regard.


Why would she?
 
2008-09-24 07:42:27 AM  
h

Prospero424: Oh, and think of what the reaction would be if the entire Democratic establishment AND Obama voters started calling Biden "Joe" every time he came up in conversation or on camera.

But "Sarah", it seems, is perfectly fine.


umm what? are you trying to say that's sexist? what?

I call obama, Barack.

i dont understand yeee point.
 
2008-09-24 07:43:10 AM  

sloppy shoes: To anybody with half a brain, we know why they are hiding her- she has absolutely no national or foreign policy experience.


What foreign policy experience did the following governors have prior to being elected President: Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush? What "national" experience did they have? Being part of the continental US?

btw: Campbell Brown is hot.
 
2008-09-24 07:43:38 AM  

Olympus Mons: Just wait until Sarah gets to deal with our economy.


Your funny.

Like Biden is some genius.

/voting on a candidate like they can just fix the economy is partial retard. It is not a simple fix that one administration controls
 
2008-09-24 07:44:05 AM  
OMFG! There really is a "Pudding Month".

Link (new window)
 
2008-09-24 07:44:40 AM  
i448.photobucket.com
Wait wut? You means she isn't doon McStain's hebby liftin?
 
2008-09-24 07:45:50 AM  

Reggie Dunlap: What foreign policy experience did the following governors have prior to being elected President: Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush? What "national" experience did they have? Being part of the continental US?


It's foreign policy knowledge that people want at a minimum. Not "We can see Russia from Alaska!" bullshat.
 
2008-09-24 07:46:37 AM  

impaler: Why would she?


Why wouldn't she?

Ever hear her talk about her? She likes her. In fact she even mentioned that she might not vote for Obama.

Ferraro is an old school Democrat who has been out of the political grinder for a long time. She is not part of this new Democratic party that has been hijacked by the left wing.
 
2008-09-24 07:49:32 AM  

hraja2: are you trying to say that's sexist?


Not saying it's bigoted, just that it's a double-standard of assumed familiarity based on gender; a lack of formal courtesy because she's a woman.

Not a big deal by itself, but some Republicans seem to enjoy speaking of her as if she were a member of their family. And that's most likely the precise effect they're going for.

The "they think he's their messiah!" thing would just be even more shrill than it already is if it were reversed.
 
2008-09-24 07:51:07 AM  

JQPublic: OMFG! There really is a "Pudding Month".


There's a "snack pack" joke in here, somewhere, but it eludes me...
 
2008-09-24 07:52:30 AM  
McCain is a used-car salesman trying to sell the country a vehicle he won't let the public test-drive.
 
2008-09-24 07:53:29 AM  

LowPlainsDrifter: Her qualifications for the office of vice president are fine. Her job will be to sit there and smile when the senate declares Pudding Awareness Month. Big deal. And if the President dies, yeah she takes the helm, but let's be real, the President really isn't as powerful as everybody makes the office out to be. Congress is the entity with the actual power. The President is more or less a figurehead that diverts our attention away from the real power plays (not intentionally, but that's how it works out)


internally.

now imagine her being your head of state intentionally - or worse, during an international crisis
 
2008-09-24 07:53:57 AM  

Prospero424: Not saying it's bigoted, just that it's a double-standard of assumed familiarity based on gender; a lack of formal courtesy because she's a woman.


i do believe that is one of the stupidest things ive heard, but hey, to each his/her own.

But yeah, like I said - many people call obama, barack - and many people call "sarah", palin.

so.....

BARACK '08!
 
2008-09-24 07:54:17 AM  

Sgygus: McCain is a used-car salesman trying to sell the country a vehicle he won't let the public test-drive.


But he'll let them watch all the commercials on it they like, all the while insisting that this is "just as good" as a test drive.
 
2008-09-24 07:55:18 AM  
LowPlainsDrifter: but let's be real, the President really isn't as powerful as everybody makes the office out to be. Congress is the entity with the actual power. The President is more or less a figurehead that diverts our attention away from the real power plays (not intentionally, but that's how it works out).

Is that what you guys have sunk to? "Yeah she sucks but the President isn't an important gig anyway".

Dios mio, mang.
 
2008-09-24 07:57:47 AM  
I watch CNN when I want a little dumbed-down ignorance with my news.
 
2008-09-24 07:58:42 AM  
For the HTML challenged...

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2008-09-24 07:59:01 AM  

LowPlainsDrifter: sloppy shoes: I think Brown's argument would have had more weight if she had just come out and said, "I don't have problems with her as a woman, I have problems with her as a candidate. She wants to be a nationally elected official yet refuses to be interviewed. If she were a man, the press would have a field day with this."

She should have called out the politics of sexism that McCain's camp is using to their advantage.

Or, put another way, even if it was sexism, in issues like this, you don't get anywhere by whining. Even the most traditional or joking of you out there, you have to admit you were probably very impressed with the ladies of the view when they played hardball with McCain. And, at least in my local circles, it made much more of a statement than CB's silly editorial ever will.

I don't know about that first paragraph. Reagan did wonderful by essentially avoiding the press (mostly) when he was running. Nobody had a field day with him and no, times have not changed that much.

Avoiding the press is laudable in my view. They're a bunch of parasites and small minded toads with agendas. Were I not in line with their agenda and running for office in a high profile way I would probably give them the bird too. Hell, they've done everything in their power to smear this woman, whether truthful or lies (oops, I meant exaggerating reality, sorry). From that alone she's justified in snubbing them.

Her qualifications for the office of vice president are fine. Her job will be to sit there and smile when the senate declares Pudding Awareness Month. Big deal. And if the President dies, yeah she takes the helm, but let's be real, the President really isn't as powerful as everybody makes the office out to be. Congress is the entity with the actual power. The President is more or less a figurehead that diverts our attention away from the real power plays (not intentionally, but that's how it works out).


What was the going rate on that sensory deprivation chamber that you've been sequestered in for the preceding eight years? I'd say you squeezed every monetary unit of worth out of it.
 
2008-09-24 07:59:07 AM  
OBVIOUS tag asleep today?
 
2008-09-24 07:59:56 AM  

at80eighty: now imagine her being your head of state intentionally - or worse, during an international crisis


I think she would do fine.

/that is all you can do is imagine. POTUS is a learn on the job type job.
 
2008-09-24 07:59:59 AM  

sloppy shoes: I'd also like to add as a feminist...blah blah blah

shhhh, is my fuking sandwich made yet?


She said delicate flower... can I see the delicate flower?

 
2008-09-24 08:01:40 AM  

JQPublic: The media, most of it, anyway, does not just want to innocently interview Palin. They want to throw brickbats and rotten fruit at her. Each one of these Totally Unbiased JournalistsTM want to be the one that single-handedly does what Dan Rather tried and failed to do---successfully torpedo a Republican ticket.


hey how's she expected to face down our enemies if she can't face down Campbell Brown or Rachel Maddow? Admit it. She's a joke and you guys are trying to hide it from the public and keep all the contact she does have limited and friendly.

What would you say if the Dems had picked an unknown and hid them away like this? You'd be up in arms over it.
 
2008-09-24 08:02:04 AM  
In a way what the McCain campaign is doing really is sexist. They demanded the press show deference. They refuse to let the press talk to her and they control her like she is some drug addled pop star. If Palin was a guy people would not have stood for this crap for five minutes. It would have made him look neutered and blatantly incompetent, there would have been no second guessing on it. McCain has gotten away with this crap for almost a month BECAUSE Palin is a woman. The press needs to revolt on this and eat McCain's campaign for lunch over it.
 
2008-09-24 08:03:32 AM  
But the new McCain Palin campaign button is awesome!

Link (new window)
 
2008-09-24 08:04:20 AM  

hraja2: i do believe that is one of the stupidest things ive heard


Uhuh. Thank you for your oh-so-reasonable and fully explained opinion.

hraja2: many people call obama, barack


Only random, slightly sycophantic supporters and those lawmakers who actually know him, personally. You don't see (many) Democratic media figures, strategists, liberal commentators, campaign spokesmen, etc. calling him "Barack" in almost every television appearance, like they've been calling Palin "Sarah".

When you see people at Obama events asked questions on camera, they usually don't call him "Barack" (though you're right that some do). You see the McCain crowds refer to her as "Sarah" all the time.

At campaign events, the crowds chant "Obama!" on one side and "Sa-rah!" on the other.

Deny it all you want, but I'm not the one who'll wind up looking stupid ;) Like I said: it's not that big of a deal. Just something I've noticed.
 
2008-09-24 08:07:31 AM  

sloppy shoes: I think Brown's argument would have had more weight if she had just come out and said, "I don't have problems with her as a woman, I have problems with her as a candidate. She wants to be a nationally elected official yet refuses to be interviewed. If she were a man, the press would have a field day with this."

She should have called out the politics of sexism that McCain's camp is using to their advantage.


Um this is what Campbell Brown did. It's why it's called 'Free Sarah Palin.'
 
2008-09-24 08:07:52 AM  

vegasj: shhhh, is my fuking sandwich made yet?


Boom......outa the park!
 
2008-09-24 08:10:14 AM  

Hobodeluxe: JQPublic: The media, most of it, anyway, does not just want to innocently interview Palin. They want to throw brickbats and rotten fruit at her. Each one of these Totally Unbiased JournalistsTM want to be the one that single-handedly does what Dan Rather tried and failed to do---successfully torpedo a Republican ticket.

hey how's she expected to face down our enemies if she can't face down Campbell Brown or Rachel Maddow? Admit it. She's a joke and you guys are trying to hide it from the public and keep all the contact she does have limited and friendly.

What would you say if the Dems had picked an unknown and hid them away like this? You'd be up in arms over it.


If the Dems had picked an unknown and hid him away, Howard Dean would be president.
 
2008-09-24 08:12:28 AM  
I think the big point that many people are missing is this: If Palin is not qualified for the position she seeks, then she was clearly chosen based on her gender - textbook sexism. Once that first decision was made, all other decisions that follow must take that first decision into account, hence hiding her away is sexist. Because her candidacy alone is sexist.

If the trunk of a tree is an oak, every branch is oaken.
 
2008-09-24 08:15:07 AM  

Phil Herup: I think she would do fine.



i have to sincerely doubt that. when ata micro level , you have to change a tried & tested debate format , just so you dont get blitzed by the opposition on national television...expecting any different on the world stage is a bit over optimistic . maybe.

/that is all you can do is imagine. POTUS is a learn on the job type job.

cant say for sure , ive never been one :p
 
2008-09-24 08:15:55 AM  

Prospero424: hraja2: i do believe that is one of the stupidest things ive heard

Uhuh. Thank you for your oh-so-reasonable and fully explained opinion.

hraja2: many people call obama, barack

Only random, slightly sycophantic supporters and those lawmakers who actually know him, personally. You don't see (many) Democratic media figures, strategists, liberal commentators, campaign spokesmen, etc. calling him "Barack" in almost every television appearance, like they've been calling Palin "Sarah".

When you see people at Obama events asked questions on camera, they usually don't call him "Barack" (though you're right that some do). You see the McCain crowds refer to her as "Sarah" all the time.

At campaign events, the crowds chant "Obama!" on one side and "Sa-rah!" on the other.

Deny it all you want, but I'm not the one who'll wind up looking stupid ;) Like I said: it's not that big of a deal. Just something I've noticed.


And everyone refers to Sen. Clinton as "Hillary." So what. Even her own campaign website is hillary.org. and her own Political Action Committee is HillPac.
 
2008-09-24 08:16:57 AM  
The sexist ones here are the republicans who picked her to be a VP because she's a woman, not the democrats who think she's unqualified and inexperienced and don't care if she's a woman.
 
2008-09-24 08:17:13 AM  

at80eighty: cant say for sure , ive never been one :p


I was elected for a single year in nineteen-ought-eight. Most farkers don't know that about me.

Yes, I knew "John". We were childhood friends.
 
2008-09-24 08:18:24 AM  
smell the glove Campbell, smell the glove
 
2008-09-24 08:19:42 AM  

JQPublic: And everyone refers to Sen. Clinton as "Hillary."


Oh come one, man. It kind of helps that the entire world has referred to her husband as "Clinton" for more than a decade and a half.

Gimme a break ;p

I already said it wasn't a big deal, anyway.
 
2008-09-24 08:23:18 AM  
After Campbell Brown's pimp slapping of McCain, I predict the electoral map will look like this:

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2008-09-24 08:23:52 AM  
They didn't ban reporters from her meeting because she was a woman....it's because she's an idiot.

It's not chauvinistic to protect your moronic running mate from the press - hell, George HW Bush should have shielded Quayle from the press!!

Potatoe.
 
2008-09-24 08:25:56 AM  

Prospero424: hraja2: i do believe that is one of the stupidest things ive heard

Uhuh. Thank you for your oh-so-reasonable and fully explained opinion.

hraja2: many people call obama, barack

Only random, slightly sycophantic supporters and those lawmakers who actually know him, personally. You don't see (many) Democratic media figures, strategists, liberal commentators, campaign spokesmen, etc. calling him "Barack" in almost every television appearance, like they've been calling Palin "Sarah".

When you see people at Obama events asked questions on camera, they usually don't call him "Barack" (though you're right that some do). You see the McCain crowds refer to her as "Sarah" all the time.

At campaign events, the crowds chant "Obama!" on one side and "Sa-rah!" on the other.

Deny it all you want, but I'm not the one who'll wind up looking stupid ;) Like I said: it's not that big of a deal. Just something I've noticed.



So basically what you're saying is that people who attend mccain/palin rallies (supporters of both candidates) don't show palin the same respect as obama supporters show obama and biden...

haha thats fine with me.

REPUBLICANS ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOO RUDDEEEE :)

When it comes to the news, it's mostly Gov. Palin, Sen. Everyone Else


As for Hillary.org - that's not clinton's main campaign page. Her main page is HillaryClinton.com
 
2008-09-24 08:27:36 AM  
In 9th grade, there was a girl with a nice smile and a great rack who ran for class president against the girl with the most experience and highest GPA. Guess who won. Well, the people who voted in that election are now voting in this election.

Issues don't matter and never will because Americans are stupid and petty.
 
2008-09-24 08:27:38 AM  
A very refreshing turn in the words politics and sex.
It's usually White men and Interns and pages and the sex is on the side.
If Mrs Palin is half as good as advertised it will add an interesting aspect to Vice presidential politics.
Since Al Gore the resume of the Vice President as more of a policy Wog than a funeral prop seems to be the norm.
I guess Biden could be given the job of Gaff Master!
 
2008-09-24 08:29:11 AM  
Anyways, i love Campbell Brown. She's not afraid to speak her mind, whether it's against Tucker Bounds, or when a democrat called Palin's convention speech 'shrill'. I'm glad she has her own show.

Now to get rid of Lou Dobbs that precedes her each night, and CNN will be perfect. I don't mind an independent, but Lou Dobbs is just so angry and negative that watching it just kills whatever mood i'm in (and i HATE his polls... which do you prefer? A ham sandwich or a ham sandwich up your ass... no wonder all his polls are so lop-sided).

I love CNN in the evening. Campbell Brown, Larry King, and then AC360.
 
2008-09-24 08:29:44 AM  

Beatle_Matt: It's not chauvinistic to protect your moronic running mate from the press..


No, it's not. It just kinda pops its head up when your campaign calls perfectly legitimate questions and politically-accepted tactics put to her "sexist", though.

They should have just shut their mouths and let voters (and the media) talk about "sexism". But they couldn't help themselves. I even get the feeling they tried to use it against the Democrats out of spite more than anything else.
 
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