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(NJ.com)   Review of the new season of "Heroes," a "very dumb show that just wants you to think it's smart." Kind of like Paula Abdul   (nj.com) divider line 94
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2008-09-22 02:31:17 PM  
Subby, he said "show" not "ho"
 
2008-09-22 02:41:05 PM  
Sounds about right. It and Lost are the DaVinci Code of books.
 
2008-09-22 02:45:50 PM  
Kinda like Alias.
 
2008-09-22 02:52:31 PM  
Warning: Weeaboo Outrage begins in 3...2...1...
 
2008-09-22 03:02:29 PM  
I never saw Heroes. I was considering watching this season. At least I was.
 
2008-09-22 03:21:40 PM  
Nemo's Brother: It and Lost are the DaVinci Code of books.


That sentence made my head hurt.
 
2008-09-22 03:23:46 PM  
They really need to lose Mohinder's babbling voiceovers and focus on finding excuses to get the cast shirtless.

/shallow and proud, baby.
 
2008-09-22 03:25:57 PM  
Nemo's Brother: Sounds about right. It and Lost are the DaVinci Code of books.

YES! YOUR WINNAR TEH THREAD!!1!
 
2008-09-22 03:27:42 PM  
Nemo's Brother: Sounds about right. It and Lost are the DaVinci Code of books.

That reply was the purple of watermelon.
 
2008-09-22 03:30:29 PM  
Nemo's Brother: Sounds about right. It and Lost are the DaVinci Code of books.

Yep. I quit watching it when the Indian dude wouldn't shut up and they wouldn't kill him off.
 
2008-09-22 03:43:41 PM  
This weekend I took the time to get caught up on my Heroes and my Burn Notice (I hadn't watched season 2 of either).

In short - Burn Notice good, Heroes bad.

Burn Notice has fantastically flawed characters and a compelling serial story while remaining strongly episodic. Not to mention the fact that it has Bruce Campbell.

Heroes wrote itself into a corner during the first season by giving us the ultimate hero and the ultimate villain. It's the classic Superman situation - if Superman is there, why bother with any of the other heroes? The writers appeared to realize this and tried to backpedal in the first bit of season 2, finding ways to limit (or eliminate) their powers, but sure enough, they couldn't help but end season 2 with both of them back on their A-game. Much like Lost, the writers don't seem to have the story thought out in advance, they're just winging it.
 
2008-09-22 03:57:14 PM  
Meh ... I'll still watch it.
 
2008-09-22 03:58:18 PM  
Heroes is poorly acted, shoddily written pulp, and I loved season 1. Fun stories, and characters that piqued your interest. However as the series has progressed it's fallen apart, the characters have no depth, and the stories completely lost any focus, direction or cohesion.

I'm not really looking forward to season 3, I have no doubt it will be better than season 2, but so what? I think it lost a lot of potential.
 
2008-09-22 03:59:29 PM  
Nemo's Brother: Sounds about right. It and Lost are the DaVinci Code of books.

You and that post are the Gigli of movies.
 
2008-09-22 03:59:57 PM  
It's still better than "Smallville"

The season premiere of that was abysmal.

1. Clark loses his powers (again). I think that makes about 8 times now.
2. No plot resolution at all as to how they all got out of that Montana holding facility.
3. If Martian Manhunter lost his powers how did he fly Clark back to Earth and how can he still disguise himself a s a black guy when he's a martian?
4. How did Clark get a job as a reporter at the Daily planet with no journalism degree and Hell, only half a year of college period.
5. No Lex, no Lana, no Lionel, no Supergirl. All the good characters have left and have been replaced in the opening credits by people you don't care about.
6. Clark STILL can't fly (except when he does but then forgets how he did it).

I could go on for hours.
 
2008-09-22 04:05:48 PM  
Walker: I could go on for hours.

Funny fact about that show: The guy playing Clark now is older than Christopher Reeve was when he did the Superman movie.
 
2008-09-22 04:08:02 PM  
Walker: It's still better than "Smallville"

The season premiere of that was abysmal.

1. Clark loses his powers (again). I think that makes about 8 times now.
2. No plot resolution at all as to how they all got out of that Montana holding facility.
3. If Martian Manhunter lost his powers how did he fly Clark back to Earth and how can he still disguise himself a s a black guy when he's a martian?
4. How did Clark get a job as a reporter at the Daily planet with no journalism degree and Hell, only half a year of college period.
5. No Lex, no Lana, no Lionel, no Supergirl. All the good characters have left and have been replaced in the opening credits by people you don't care about.
6. Clark STILL can't fly (except when he does but then forgets how he did it).

I could go on for hours.


I can't believe you're still watching that. I also can't believe you listened Lana under "good characters." She's the main reason I quit watching after season 1.
 
2008-09-22 04:08:29 PM  
farking Fox moved The Sarah Connor Chronicles opposite Heroes, so TSCC will soon be gone.

If anyone who was in Firefly is reading this, if you get an offer from Fox, just save yourself the trouble and decline.
 
2008-09-22 04:09:20 PM  
Kublai Khan: I also can't believe you listened Lana under "good characters."

"Listed" that is.
 
2008-09-22 04:30:15 PM  
Walker: I could go on for hours.

Please don't.

/suffice to say, you consider Smallville to be "the DaVinci Code of books"
 
2008-09-22 04:32:01 PM  
KrunkSplein: In short - Burn Notice good, Heroes bad.

I totally dig Burn Notice, but we haven't seen the new season of Heroes? At least hold that thought until tonight.

Otherwise, I agree, Heroes is more eyecandy than anything. That said, they need to put Kristen Bell in that tight dress they had her in last season...
 
2008-09-22 04:38:27 PM  
whidbey: That said, they need to put Kristen Bell in that tight dress they had her in last season...

Hmm. Your ideas intrigue me. "Tighter dress than last season" and they might gain back a loyal viewer.

/going to have 'we used to be friends a long time ago' stuck in my head now
//goddamnitsomuch
 
2008-09-22 04:42:56 PM  
I can't find any pics of her wearing that skirt...:(

Dania Ramirez is nice to look at, too...

i216.photobucket.com
 
2008-09-22 05:55:12 PM  
Heroes, so much potential, such terrible writing.
Every character has terrific power, but the IQ of a biscuit.
 
2008-09-22 05:57:57 PM  
Mugato: farking Fox moved The Sarah Connor Chronicles opposite Heroes, so TSCC will soon be gone.

I noticed that.. pissed me off tonight, because now I have to choose between TSCC, Heroes and the Rangers/Sens pre-season game - I can only record/watch 2 of the 3 in HD.
 
2008-09-22 05:58:24 PM  
This season looks to be good. They learned from the mistakes of last season, and will have hopefully turned this one around to make it more like Season 1.

Obviously though, subby and the writer of TFA are both haters. It's written like a piece of someone who intended from the moment not to like it and to trash it from point A to point B.

I hate when trash like this gets submitted. I guess it generates clicks if nothing else.
 
2008-09-22 06:05:19 PM  
This season of Heroes is make or break for me I think - Season 1 was good and had promise. A lot of Season 2 pissed me off, but I'll give them a pass cause of the shortened season cause of the writer's strike.

But they need to a) stop introducing a gazillion new characters, b) start killing off current characters and keep them dead, and c) stop making so many invincible superpowers.
 
2008-09-22 06:09:29 PM  
I sense a disturbing trend in our society where we can only experience the ethos of the human psyche through superheros. As though in our sensory overstimulated world the we can only dissect the complexity of the human condition through the filter of clown makeup and super powers. Otherwise, "it they talk too faggy and their shiat's all retarded" and such.
 
2008-09-22 06:10:22 PM  
Mugato: farking Fox moved The Sarah Connor Chronicles opposite Heroes, so TSCC will soon be gone.


Huh?

TSCC is on at 8 and Heroes is on at 9.

Now, Heroes has some sort of "countdown show" starting at 8, but screw that.
 
2008-09-22 06:21:17 PM  
Shilldog:
Nemo's Brother: Sounds about right. It and Lost are the DaVinci Code of books.

That reply was the purple of watermelon.


i loled
 
2008-09-22 06:22:00 PM  
Reviewer takes his prime-time network superhero shows a tad seriously.

It's fun and entertaining. If you want thought-provoking, intelligent, and informative, watch the Discovery Channel. Otherwise lighten up and enjoy it.
 
2008-09-22 06:31:22 PM  
eoknet.files.wordpress.com

This show is awesome. I dont see the problem.

/BTW its just a television show.
// It dosent have to be smart. Just ask the people who brought back the gong show.
 
2008-09-22 06:32:37 PM  
I think Heroes lost me a few episodes before the end of season 1. None of the characters are what they seem, every secondary character has some devious secret that ties them to something else. It's pretty cheesy, and just lazy writing, IMHO.
 
2008-09-22 06:34:18 PM  
Also, Lost has had a disappointing trend in the direction of "everyone's past is connected". Ugh. There's a fine line to walk between good plot and overdone, lazy plot.
 
2008-09-22 06:34:53 PM  
KrunkSplein

Burn Notice is nothing more than a water downed made-for-TV ripoff of Desolation Jones.
 
2008-09-22 06:56:38 PM  
"Opinions are like assholes...everyone has one...."...is the treatise of Alan Sepinwall/The Star-Ledger. Who. The. Fark. Cares if he likes it or not. He probably likes cock in his ass. Whatever blows your hair back.
 
2008-09-22 06:59:17 PM  
Bondidude: Obviously though, subby and the writer of TFA are both haters. It's written like a piece of someone who intended from the moment not to like it and to trash it from point A to point B.

I actually intended to like "Heroes". But like so many others in this thread have said, bad acting, lazy writing, etc.

It's a damn shame. This show could've really been something (in my mind, anyway).

/not subby
//just sayin' is all
 
2008-09-22 07:22:03 PM  
Mangoose: KrunkSplein

Burn Notice is nothing more than a water downed made-for-TV ripoff of Desolation Jones.


So you're saying Burn Notice is the Da Vinci Code of books?

/but all the cool kids are doing it!
 
2008-09-22 07:23:36 PM  
KrunkSplein: This weekend I took the time to get caught up on my Heroes and my Burn Notice (I hadn't watched season 2 of either).

In short - Burn Notice good, Heroes bad.

Burn Notice has fantastically flawed characters and a compelling serial story while remaining strongly episodic. Not to mention the fact that it has Bruce Campbell.

Heroes wrote itself into a corner during the first season by giving us the ultimate hero and the ultimate villain. It's the classic Superman situation - if Superman is there, why bother with any of the other heroes? The writers appeared to realize this and tried to backpedal in the first bit of season 2, finding ways to limit (or eliminate) their powers, but sure enough, they couldn't help but end season 2 with both of them back on their A-game. Much like Lost, the writers don't seem to have the story thought out in advance, they're just winging it.





Totally agree. Burn Notice good. It has Bruce and Gabrielle, and the narration is always fun. I also love what they're doing with his mom this season.

Heroes, on the other hand had one of the worst season finales I've ever seen when the "heroes" got to take on the "villain". They then went on to create what could have been an excellent subplot with Hiro in some sort of proto-Edo timeline and *completely* wasted it. That was amoung several subplots which I found so painful to watch that I couldn't watch the show. Oh, and that Maya chick. Honestly, why? My cynicism gets the best of me with that one.

You're also right about the Superman syndrome. However, with Peter it's worse. He just has to be around someone and suddenly he's Super Swiss Army Knife Boy. It reminds me of the South Park episode where they're all ninjas and Cartman claims he can do what everyone else can do, only better.

I'll give them two episodes to prove that they can tell a decent narrative. If they don't deliver I can always do something else.
 
2008-09-22 07:24:47 PM  
Season 1 was fun. Season 2 was "meh". Season 3, while focusing on the villains should be great.

/Villains are quite often more interesting characters
//Off to play COH before Heroes starts
 
2008-09-22 07:57:09 PM  
I've said it before, Heroes is a fun show, but it is by no means a good show.

/Like Alias and Lost.
//All you have to do is watch the final five minutes of each episode to get the whole story.
 
2008-09-22 08:47:29 PM  
Aboleth

Even worse. It's the Da Vinci Code of movies.
 
2008-09-22 08:51:55 PM  
If you didn't know Heroes sucked after seeing the first teaser, sorry you wasted your time.
 
2008-09-22 09:05:44 PM  
Watching now.

"police do not yet know the cause of the shooting"

What does that even MEAN?!?

Lazy writing. The cause of the shooting? I think it was someone pulling the trigger on a gun.
 
2008-09-22 09:27:22 PM  
DKinMN: Watching now.

"police do not yet know the cause of the shooting"

What does that even MEAN?!?

Lazy writing. The cause of the shooting? I think it was someone pulling the trigger on a gun.


Your an idiot then, by that they mean motive. You're just looking for shiat.
 
2008-09-22 09:29:10 PM  
Rut-roh...future boy is out to finish the job
 
2008-09-22 09:30:23 PM  
I'm liking evil Peter...
 
2008-09-22 09:53:23 PM  
Ando: LOL HADOKEN
 
2008-09-22 09:57:56 PM  
LOL MOHINDER!!
 
2008-09-22 10:05:23 PM  
I'll have a big dose of what the good doctor had.


The serum would be nice, too
 
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