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(WorldNetDaily)   Genetic engineering may re-create Biblical giants of olden days; NFL scouts, WWF recruiters wait with gleeful anticipation   (worldnetdaily.com) divider line 176
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2008-09-20 11:51:02 PM
plif.courageunfettered.com
 
2008-09-20 11:52:19 PM
DarkScarab: Not a big 'rasslin fan but come on people. It hasn't been the WWF for years, it's the WWE. It's all about the Entertainment.

/jeez


Goddamnit, if I had been FOUR seconds faster...
 
2008-09-20 11:52:20 PM
muck4doo: The book of Enoch rocks!

Yes, it does.

A lot of the Apocrypha does.
 
2008-09-20 11:54:02 PM
DarkScarab: Not a big 'rasslin fan but come on people. It hasn't been the WWF for years, it's the WWE. It's all about the Entertainment.

/jeez


Those bad-asses messed with the wrong motherfarkers:

www.churchillcellars.com
 
2008-09-20 11:54:48 PM
Another interesting horror story involves scientists working on the strain of 1918 strain of influenza that killed an estimated 300 million people in that year. That was far more than died in the world war that ended that year. That strain was interesting to researchers because, unlike most strains, it targeted and killed young healthy people, people of military age, instead of children and the elderly. Apparently, one of researchers failed to use due care and several people contracted the disease and were quarantined. It could have been much worse.
 
2008-09-20 11:56:01 PM
The Christian bible is the best-selling fantasy book in the whole world.
 
2008-09-20 11:57:24 PM
i315.photobucket.com
 
2008-09-20 11:58:55 PM
Death by Snoo Snoo is closer than I ever imagined!
 
2008-09-21 12:00:08 AM
Jeremy Bates: The Christian bible is the best-selling fantasy book in the whole world.

Wow, that was clever, did you just make that up?
 
2008-09-21 12:01:10 AM
lucasorvis: Is there anyone I can say "It's called the WWE now!" without revealing the fact that I'm a huge fan?

~L


Easy, it's been that for years now...
 
2008-09-21 12:01:35 AM
Denial_of_Death: Genetic engineering and fallen angels? Be careful what you ask for, WorldNetDaily...

Oh, well. Glad I'm not alone.

img212.imageshack.us

/Nephilim... not always nice
//I ///I now fastforward the "plot" and watch the fights in NGE, sadly
 
2008-09-21 12:01:48 AM
Joker you diabolical...


LOLOLOL!

/I snotted!
 
2008-09-21 12:02:19 AM
http://www.comicbooknews.us/IMGs/CaptainAmerica34AlexRossCover.jpg

not impressed
 
2008-09-21 12:03:18 AM
Jeremy Bates: The Christian bible is the best-selling fantasy book in the whole world.

If only the majority of Western Civilization would realize that it is entirely a work of fiction.
 
2008-09-21 12:03:53 AM
Wow, here I am talking about the 1918 Flu Pandemic and look what pops up in the very next greenlight ...

THE body of an aristocrat who died in 1919 has been exhumed in a bid to help prevent a flu pandemic.

Landowner and politician Sir Mark Sykes died of Spanish flu.

He was buried in a lead coffin, which scientists hope will have preserved the virus.
 
2008-09-21 12:03:55 AM
upload.wikimedia.org


same guy?
 
2008-09-21 12:04:24 AM
18DeadMonkeys Radio: Joker you diabolical...


LOLOLOL!

/I snotted!


I know, it's too funny. I wish I'd made it.
 
2008-09-21 12:05:19 AM
www.comicbooknews.us


not impressed

/fixing previous post
//pointless now
///slashies
 
2008-09-21 12:05:32 AM
Samsaran:

Most people don't realize that there has only been one successful Eugenics program in the history of the world.


People have been breeding dogs and horses for much longer to get specific traits expressed. The problem is man isn't God, when you try to remove all the random variables from a complex system they creep back in. In selective breeding programs recessive genetic defects get amplified. In general I think I agree with you and the previous poster are saying. Its best to avoid playing God.

If you want to play God you better be prepared to cause horror and strife. Last time I checked that's they the world He created operates.
 
2008-09-21 12:06:17 AM
i62.photobucket.com

Did someone say genetically engineered giants?
 
2008-09-21 12:06:34 AM
DarkScarab: Not a big 'rasslin fan but come on people. It hasn't been the WWF for years, it's the WWE. It's all about the Entertainment.

It's still real to me, dammit!
 
2008-09-21 12:06:39 AM
The hell with that--someone get the "conservative t-shirt" girl a sammich, stat!

pagead2.googlesyndication.com
 
2008-09-21 12:06:57 AM
Cucullen: If you want to play God you better be prepared to cause horror and strife. Last time I checked that's they the world He created operates.

Well, the NBA certainly benefited.
 
2008-09-21 12:06:58 AM
staplermofo: I bet most of the people in this thread talking about Nephilim will have no idea who Seth is.

Third son of Adam and Eve, father of all humanity.

I only know because I am named Seth.
 
2008-09-21 12:10:10 AM
"Enoch, thou scribe of justice, go,announce to the watchers of heaven, who have left the high heaven and the holy, eternal place, and have contaminated themselves with women, and have done as the children of men do, and have taken to themselves wives, and are contaminated in great contamination upon the earth. But upon earth they shall have no peace, nor forgiveness of sin; for they will not enjoy their children. They will see the murder of their beloved ones, and they will lament over the destruction of their children, and will petition to eternity, but mercy and peace will not be unto them." (Enoch book 1)

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes, indeed.
 
2008-09-21 12:11:10 AM
Jeremy Bates: The Christian bible is the best-selling fantasy book in the whole world.

The "Christian" bible doesn't really mention the subject. It is talked about a lot more in old Jewish texts that were not included as part of the Bible. Genesis mentions it briefly. Thanks for showing your ignorance though.
 
2008-09-21 12:11:57 AM
rufus-t-firefly: Samsaran: Most people don't realize that there has only been one successful Eugenics program in the history of the world. They don't realize it because it is politically incorrect to talk about it. In order for selective breeding to work it must be carried out over several generations. Hitler only had one generation. The Eugenics movement in the U.S. and Europe never even had a single generation.

The successful one? Black slavery. Slaves were bred for 400 years for size, strength and docility.



So if we can organize selective breeding at the federal level, we can weed out people like you.

Suddenly, a eugenics program doesn't seem like such a bad idea.

And for the basic idiocy of your post - if that 'program' (as if it was centrally organized) was successful, then how do small, weak or violent African-Americans still exist?

There is a kernel of truth to what you wrote - slave owners did want the slaves' offspring to be good workers - but, again it was not an organized 'program.'

/WTF is with people's profiles lately?
//the amusingly egocentric ones are being edited mercilessly
///a newbie would have to work to find out who the douchebags are


Umm, actually there are arguements for programs for this sort of thing during slavery. Historians just can't seem to agree on the scope of the process. Check your primary sources again.

To some historians, the evidence is obvious and shameless (such as some primary source documents I have read in SC archives): Certain cultures were bred for certain tasks: Not all slaves had to be giant, powerful hulks. Some were preferred small for more complex tasks.

Slaves from certain parts of Africa were considered more attractive physically others more attractive intellectually and yes, some cultures were considered more docile. Slave masters were very careful to breed their slaves so that undesirable traits were bred away, but what can be construed to have happened since breeding stopped is that the races then again intermingled, messing up the work.

Many historians will agree with this only in part. They say that while selective breeding was definately taking place, this all resulted from something that wasn't deliberate. History and the capacity for human audacity and ignorance sometimes isn't very pretty.

/an antebellum historian in my former life.
 
2008-09-21 12:12:35 AM
Our Man in Nirvana: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes, indeed.

i149.photobucket.com
 
2008-09-21 12:19:38 AM
There's a hell of a lot of crazy in this thread.

wow.
 
2008-09-21 12:20:19 AM
These texts have gone through so much translation that any chance at knowing truth (if there was any to begin with) is slim.

They've shown that another Biblical giant, Goliath, was actually just sort of tall -- at some point the translations added two extra cubits (9'6"), but older versions of the same texts show that he was within normal range of height (6'7"). Furthermore, they found that some Philistines from that area actually were that height.
 
2008-09-21 12:20:22 AM
muck4doo: Jeremy Bates: The Christian bible is the best-selling fantasy book in the whole world.

The "Christian" bible doesn't really mention the subject. It is talked about a lot more in old Jewish texts that were not included as part of the Bible. Genesis mentions it briefly. Thanks for showing your ignorance though.



Genesis:

6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.


Angels + sexy human babes = Giants

God's Wrath + Noah = Giant Genocide

"Anyone else with a comment?"
 
2008-09-21 12:20:33 AM
I think there are at least three separate threads in this thread.
 
2008-09-21 12:21:10 AM
Outshined_One: There's a hell of a lot of crazy in this thread.

wow.


There's a whole lotta crazy in TFA too.
 
2008-09-21 12:23:56 AM
The Apocryphal books of Enoch, 2 Esdras, Genesis Aprocryphon and Jasher support the Genesis story, adding that the sin of the angels grew to include genetic modification of animals as well as humans. The Book of Jasher, mentioned in the Bible in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18, says, "After the fallen angels went into the daughters of men, the sons of men taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order to provoke the Lord" (4:18).

It appears the author is confusing the interbreeding of species with genetic modification. For instance, if 6000 years ago, someone bred a brontosaur with a tyrannosaur, that would be interbreeding of different species. Whereas, had Jesus cured the sick by gene suppression, that might be considered genetic modification.
 
2008-09-21 12:25:10 AM
Sultan, the Great Dane, 1699. No laboratory miracles, just selective breeding.

img516.imageshack.us
 
2008-09-21 12:25:56 AM
There's a lot of commentary about this thread in this thread.
 
2008-09-21 12:28:02 AM
And do you know how this started? Some bored Hebrew kid asking a bunch of tangential questions while someone was telling the old stories...and voila! Space Opera ahoy!
 
2008-09-21 12:35:53 AM
Powerful angels descended to earth and used women to construct bodies of flesh, which they used to "extend" themselves into the material world. But God spoke living organisms into existence, something the angels could not do.

Was Jesus a Nephilim?
 
2008-09-21 12:38:38 AM
karlmer: Was Jesus a Nephilim?

Uh no....

Son of God != Angel
 
2008-09-21 12:42:20 AM
miranda_caldwell: karlmer: Was Jesus a Nephilim?

Uh no....

Son of God != Angel


Genesis 6:4
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days - and also afterward - when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.


...where is your God now?
 
2008-09-21 12:43:59 AM
img1.picturewizard.com

"Though not TECHNICALLY a giant."
 
2008-09-21 12:44:29 AM
Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
 
2008-09-21 12:47:03 AM
I think I will be creating some giants of my own after that full rack of rids I had for dinner.

Seriously, WND, seriously??
 
2008-09-21 12:47:17 AM
whizbang: Sultan, the Great Dane, 1699. No laboratory miracles, just selective breeding.

Wow, that is a tiny African!!

/kind of ironic they call him "Great"
//not to mention "Dane" lol
 
2008-09-21 12:48:06 AM
ninjakirby: miranda_caldwell: karlmer: Was Jesus a Nephilim?

Uh no....

Son of God != Angel

Genesis 6:4
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days - and also afterward - when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.


The Torah and the Septuagint are both confusing there. Christ is the son of God but more importantly is the Son of Man--the Ben Adam---"the new Adam." In Judaism you wouldn't really have literal offspring of God either, so that part of the Torah is pretty obscure. Probably best to consult some Midrash/Talmudic sources on the Nephilim, though I can't think of any right off.
 
2008-09-21 12:52:10 AM
Weaver95: well...as I understand it, the angels essentially impregnated the women with themselves - they replaced the soul in the womb with themselves. In doing so, they bound themselves to a human existence. Once they died though, that was it - they were truly dead forever. But as angel/human hybrids they didn't exactly age like humans either. If you believe that sort of thing, they have continued to exist down through human history, manipulating their decendants, waging a war for unknowable purposes.

Ahh. This explains Dick Clark.
 
2008-09-21 12:53:46 AM
staplermofo: They weren't demonic, that's bad bibling.

Actually, this is where demons came from. These angels (or fallen angels) became Satan minions once God finally passed judgment on them. They basically became demons at that point. Maybe you should do more "bibling"?
 
2008-09-21 12:56:12 AM
They just need to clone Hulk Hogan:
i21.photobucket.com
 
2008-09-21 12:57:36 AM
Yeah, what ninjakirby said. (Except for the last bit)

If God had spoken Jesus into existence (like most other living organisms on earth, it probably would have saved Mary a lot of inconvenience and explanation.
 
2008-09-21 12:58:15 AM
miranda_caldwell: muck4doo: Jeremy Bates: The Christian bible is the best-selling fantasy book in the whole world.

The "Christian" bible doesn't really mention the subject. It is talked about a lot more in old Jewish texts that were not included as part of the Bible. Genesis mentions it briefly. Thanks for showing your ignorance though.


Genesis:

6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.


Angels + sexy human babes = Giants

God's Wrath + Noah = Giant Genocide

"Anyone else with a comment?"


Are you implying that those few verses are more than a brief mention? The Bible is pretty big.
 
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