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KaponoFor3		2008-09-18 10:40:13 AM

Stupid Medve... I mean Putin.

2wolves		2008-09-18 10:54:13 AM

Cruise missiles don't care about AAA.

Jewbag		2008-09-18 10:57:47 AM

Bravo, Russia. They just successfully trolled Iran by selling them a bunch of crappy and inaccurate surface to air rockets with a 20,000 feet altitude range.

dj4aces		2008-09-18 10:58:41 AM

Who gives a shiat? Seriously, go cry about something else.

Remember who signed the non-proliferation agreement and who didn't.

The Onanist		2008-09-18 11:01:25 AM

Well, they are supposed to be a sovereign nation. They have a right to defend themselves.

pandabear		2008-09-18 11:23:07 AM

dj4aces: Remember who signed the non-proliferation agreement and who didn't.

I didn't see mention of India, Pakistan, Israel (never signed) or North Korea (withdrew) in the article.

2wolves		2008-09-18 11:27:11 AM

The Onanist: Well, they are supposed to be a sovereign nation. They have a right to defend themselves.

That word doesn't mean what it used to mean. And yes, it will come back around to bite the U.S.'s ass.

b2theory		2008-09-18 12:08:32 PM

Given that Russian anti-aircraft equipment has demonstrated that it is essentially useless against modern equipment and tactics, why do countries like Iran still pump hundreds of millions of dollars into it?

filth		2008-09-18 12:17:23 PM

The Onanist: Well, they are supposed to be a sovereign nation. They have a right to defend themselves.

No one's criticizing Iran for buying weapons; they're criticizing Russia for selling them.

lexnaturalis		2008-09-18 12:31:19 PM

It's the Wal-Mart mentality. Why do people spend so much money on useless crap in America? They think they need it.

It's the same reason Iran is buying useless crap. They think they need it.

keylock71		2008-09-18 12:35:12 PM

Well, if it's "useless" equipment, why is anybody concerned about the sale?

lexnaturalis		2008-09-18 12:38:09 PM

keylock71: Well, if it's "useless" equipment, why is anybody concerned about the sale?

Iran is "public enemy number 1" so they're just mad that Russia is buddying up to the "bad guy."

b2theory		2008-09-18 01:05:59 PM

keylock71: Well, if it's "useless" equipment, why is anybody concerned about the sale?

It is default policy of any country to complain about any weapon systems that would be sold to a potential adversary state. Why did the Chinese complain about the sale of Kidd class destroyers to Taiwan? They are great ships, but they wouldn't last long when hunted by the Chinese Air Force.

It is also an indication of a ratcheting up of hostilities.

Instant Karma		2008-09-18 01:27:45 PM

Looks like a fun trade-show (new window), a real whos' who of international arms sales.

Take note of the exhibitor list if your looking for places to invest instead of those lame mutual funds or IRAs, war is a business that never goes out of style.

tortilla burger		2008-09-18 01:47:52 PM

That's ok. The Russians lost the instruction manuals to those things ages ago

DarnoKonrad		2008-09-18 01:48:18 PM

I'm shocked Russia would sell a friendly nation weaponry.

Nightsweat		2008-09-18 01:48:46 PM

Ain't no antiaircraft gear that stops a cruise missile. That's why they're so cruise-riffic.

Bag of Hammers		2008-09-18 01:48:49 PM

2wolves: Cruise missiles don't care about AAA.

This. All these will do is protect them from a surprise attack from the 1970s.

iawai		2008-09-18 01:49:23 PM

lexnaturalis: It's the Wal-Mart mentality. Why do people spend so much money on useless crap in America? They think they need it.

It's the same reason Iran is buying useless crap. They think they need it.

Just like the useless bunker busters that Israel just purchased?

WWIII has already started. There just hasn't been a battle yet.

Manfred J. Hattan		2008-09-18 01:49:25 PM

This the same stuff that protected the Syrian nuke site? The Iranians would have been better off sending a small deposit to that Nigerian government official.

Spanky_McFarksalot		2008-09-18 01:49:40 PM

This will make it harder for Obama to do "whatever it takes" to prevent Iran from getting nukes.

Drunk Astronaut		2008-09-18 01:49:47 PM

Hopefully they will use the same technology that worked so well in Iraq.

F-22's won't be detected until it is too late...for them.

"Hi there!"

roughridersfan		2008-09-18 01:49:53 PM

Don't worry, Iran actually only bought one. They'll just use that one and Photoshop it a few hundred times.

lexslamman		2008-09-18 01:50:12 PM

Its okay, Sarah Palin can stare down Russia from her house.

Nightsweat		2008-09-18 01:50:17 PM

Bag of Hammers: 2wolves: Cruise missiles don't care about AAA.

This. All these will do is protect them from a surprise attack from the 1970s.

Aaaaahhhhh! It's rainign Eric Estradas in Tehran! Oh the humanity!

DeRosso		2008-09-18 01:50:43 PM

2wolves: Cruise missiles don't care about AAA.

American Auto Association?

or Anti-Aircraft? (AA)

Shaggy_C		2008-09-18 01:51:28 PM

We just sold Israel bunker-busters, so this isn't surprising in the slightest. Cold War II: Zionist Boogaloo

HotWingConspiracy		2008-09-18 01:51:36 PM

I can't believe these people have the gall to defend themselves.

kolohe00		2008-09-18 01:51:46 PM

"Russia to go through with sale of anti-aircraft equipment to Iranian mullahs that could be used to stop attack on Iranian nuclear sites"

AAHAHAHAHAHA....wait...which is the funny part

Nightsweat		2008-09-18 01:52:48 PM

This mostly mean we can't use p-38's to bomb them anymore. We have to actually break out the jet aircraft.

JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm		2008-09-18 01:53:02 PM

I heard that these missiles travel faster than the speed of light and can take out a platoon of f22s before they even know what hit them. We might as well give up now that Iran has this advanced military technology.

/snark over.

matthew8762		2008-09-18 01:54:14 PM

DeRosso: 2wolves: Cruise missiles don't care about AAA.

American Auto Association?

or Anti-Aircraft? (AA)

AAA = Anti-Aircraft Artillery

I Said		2008-09-18 01:54:21 PM

I'm just here for the Iranian missile photoshops. Don't mind me.

Clarence Potter		2008-09-18 01:54:25 PM

From the weapon's wiki:
Although none of the S-300 versions have ever fired a missile in a real conflict, it is considered a very capable SAM system. In April 2005, NATO had a combat exercise in France and Germany called Trial Hammer 05 to practice SEAD missions.[9] Participating countries were pleased that the Slovak Air Force brought a S-300PMU along, providing a unique opportunity for NATO to get familiar with the system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300#Combat_history

/ too lazy to link.

Sir Charles		2008-09-18 01:54:27 PM

I'd hate to be the guys manning that equipment when Israel attacks...

Epsilon		2008-09-18 01:55:42 PM

I wouldn't worry much. No country on Earth, not even Russia, has military technology that can take out our most advanced bombers. If bombing becomes necessary, it will be done.

That being said, I still hope for a diplomatic resolution because we can't afford another war anytime soon.

Guess_Who		2008-09-18 01:55:47 PM

Jewbag: Bravo, Russia. They just successfully trolled Iran by selling them a bunch of crappy and inaccurate surface to air rockets with a 20,000 feet altitude range.

We saw how well Russian equipment worked when Israeli jets flew into Syria and bombed them.

mistrmind		2008-09-18 01:55:50 PM

HotWingConspiracy: I can't believe these people have the gall to defend themselves.

Nahhhhh!
You think? Lets see . . . they threaten genocide toward Israel.
They thumb their noses at the rest of the world about their production of fissionable materials, and in turn wish to build bombs with said fissionable materials at the nation mentioned above.

Defend themselves? They're acting like some douche-bag kid who makes threats against the other kids in the school yard, but when someone takes the bait and threatens to bloody their nose a little the douche runs to their big brother for help.

They're gonna reap what they sow.

DarnoKonrad		2008-09-18 01:55:59 PM

Why would anyone bomb the Iraqi-Afghan boarder? Am I missing something here?

LikeTheSearchEngine		2008-09-18 01:56:07 PM

It's amazing that Russia has and sold technology which can detect and reach our B2s.

Oh wait, they just cheated Iran out of a few mil. Good job.

snocone		2008-09-18 01:56:11 PM

Buy direct. Buy CIA.
Oh, and get batteries. Lots.

wildcardjack		2008-09-18 01:56:14 PM

DeRosso: 2wolves: Cruise missiles don't care about AAA.

American Auto Association?

or Anti-Aircraft? (AA)

Anti-Aircraft-Artillery, referring back to time or proximity fuzed fragmentation shells that were fired into bomber formations.

Jackpot777		2008-09-18 01:56:16 PM

Entente Cordiale.

One hundred years later.

But without the French and Britishness. And with Iranian and Russianness.

Edsel		2008-09-18 01:58:48 PM

Jewbag: Bravo, Russia. They just successfully trolled Iran by selling them a bunch of crappy and inaccurate surface to air rockets with a 20,000 feet altitude range.

If it really is the S-300PMU-2, then that is far from the truth. They got themselves some nice missiles there.

Edsel		2008-09-18 01:59:27 PM

b2theory: Given that Russian anti-aircraft equipment has demonstrated that it is essentially useless against modern equipment and tactics, why do countries like Iran still pump hundreds of millions of dollars into it?

Ask John McCain how useless Russian SAMs are.

Guess_Who		2008-09-18 01:59:38 PM

matthew8762: DeRosso: 2wolves: Cruise missiles don't care about AAA.

American Auto Association?

or Anti-Aircraft? (AA)

AAA = Anti-Aircraft Artillery

Anti Aircraft Association?

asmodeus224		2008-09-18 02:00:10 PM

QUICK! To the Palin Phone! What does she see from her Island in Alaska?

CreepyBasementGuy		2008-09-18 02:00:31 PM

Jewbag: Bravo, Russia. They just successfully trolled Iran by selling them a bunch of crappy and inaccurate surface to air rockets with a 20,000 feet altitude range.

Yea, I didn't know that Iran was an enemy of Russia.

maxximillian		2008-09-18 02:00:31 PM

Bag of Hammers: 2wolves: Cruise missiles don't care about AAA.

This. All these will do is protect them from a surprise attack from the 1970s.

I don't know if it's so much to stop the US. I don't imagine Israel wants Iran to have nuclear capabilities either. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to take out targets in Iran like they did with the nuke plant in Iraq.

/Wonders is Israel has cruise missiles....