Yeah I'm sure using a roaming proxy is they only way they obscured themselves.

zymosan: Yeah I'm sure using a roaming proxy is they only way they obscured themselves.

How do you know? They may really be dumbasses.

Duh Duh DUNNNNNN!

zymosan: Yeah I'm sure using a roaming proxy is they only way they obscured themselves.

It may have been, Yahoo is big enough that hacking a single account is a level of obfuscation by itself. But the authorities have seven days to get access to the logs... and there is no telling when the actual hack occurred... their window of opportunity may have already come and gone.

zymosan: Yeah I'm sure using a roaming proxy is they only way they obscured themselves.

They posted a screenshot without obscuring the URL - these guys aren't that smart.

DeltaXi65: They posted a screenshot without obscuring the URL - these guys aren't that smart.

All they had to do was use any number of free wireless hotspots and they are pretty much home free. Especially if it was one in a big city.

maybe the feds should bring in Trap-Door Spider to find the guy's IP address.

/i hear he'll throw in the rape for free

sepuku2: zymosan: Yeah I'm sure using a roaming proxy is they only way they obscured themselves.

How do you know? They may really be dumbasses.

Considering that they blabbed about what they were doing before they saved a copy of the emails, that's a distinct possibility.

ansiz: DeltaXi65: They posted a screenshot without obscuring the URL - these guys aren't that smart.

All they had to do was use any number of free wireless hotspots and they are pretty much home free. Especially if it was one in a big city.

Unless the hot spot they used records MAC addresses, which most do, and they didn't spoof theirs. It is a bit more complex to track a MAC address across the internet than tracing back an IP, but it can be done.

Hollie Maea: they blabbed about what they were doing before they saved a copy of the emails

Seriously?
They didn't wait like 2 weeks?
They LOST info?
I fear you may be right.

/off to look at dates on the screen caps again

Even if they get the person(s) who did this. You all do realize how Anonymous works right?

You might cut the head off one, but 7 more grow in its place.

ruht-roh.

Code_Archeologist: ansiz: DeltaXi65: They posted a screenshot without obscuring the URL - these guys aren't that smart.

All they had to do was use any number of free wireless hotspots and they are pretty much home free. Especially if it was one in a big city.

Unless the hot spot they used records MAC addresses, which most do, and they didn't spoof theirs. It is a bit more complex to track a MAC address across the internet than tracing back an IP, but it can be done.

Uh, yeah, right. The difficulty there is proving that the address wasn't spoofed. Not to mention they're completely changeable on most laptop wireless cards, so it's not exactly a complex thing to do.

Hollie Maea: sepuku2: zymosan: Yeah I'm sure using a roaming proxy is they only way they obscured themselves.

How do you know? They may really be dumbasses.

Considering that they blabbed about what they were doing before they saved a copy of the emails, that's a distinct possibility.

This showed up first on the /b/ forum of 4Chan, the person was not looking for damning evidence to make Sarah Palin unelectable... they were looking for the LOLZ. Hence the reason why there was no real effort or preparation put into this.

Howard Finkelstein: Uh, yeah, right. The difficulty there is proving that the address wasn't spoofed. Not to mention they're completely changeable on most laptop wireless cards, so it's not exactly a complex thing to do.

That is what I was trying to say... if the hacker was a dumb ass and didn't spoof is MAC address and didn't change the wireless card then he can be tracked. If he has done any of these things... then yeah, he's a ghost.

Code_Archeologist: ansiz: DeltaXi65: They posted a screenshot without obscuring the URL - these guys aren't that smart.

All they had to do was use any number of free wireless hotspots and they are pretty much home free. Especially if it was one in a big city.

Unless the hot spot they used records MAC addresses, which most do, and they didn't spoof theirs. It is a bit more complex to track a MAC address across the internet than tracing back an IP, but it can be done.

Library computer. Problem solved.

Code_Archeologist: This showed up first on the /b/ forum of 4Chan,

Then this clearly proves they're dumbasses.

Stoj: If they were in the US, and this happened in the middle of the night, the odds of them being in a library or using a free hotspot decrease by about 50%.

We have a public community center with internet that purposely doesn't save logs beyond a day, open late. Granted, that's probably not the case most places, but... yeah. Of course the other option is just drive down the STREET, half the houses and apartments have people subscribing to cable internet with wide open wireless running, so it's an open hotspot.

It's an interesting question, though, sure the guy only guessed her password (or the questions to reset it) so it seems like "not really hacking" but on the other hand it's trivial to steal mail out of paper mailboxes and read it, but that's not legal.

...or is it NOT actually illegal to steal mail/read mail and put it back in the box in the US? (sees other thread)

burndtdan: maybe the feds should bring in Trap-Door Spider to find the guy's IP address.

/i hear he'll throw in the rape for free

Dude, I honestly spit out my coffee as I was reading that. Yet another reason I have you farkied.

*shrugs* The government gets to read our mail; we get to read theirs. I think it's a pretty fair trade.

neglogon: what_now: This wasn't a hack. A hack would be if he bypassed the login all together. This guy just figured out what Palin's dog's name was, or something.

Probably an easier question than (before we knew about her) the names of her children

I think the dog's name is Thomas

So the combination is 1-2-3-4-5? That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard in my life! The kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage!

/18 U.S.C. 1030(a)(2)(C)...

IdBeCrazyIf: Even if they get the person(s) who did this. You all do realize how Anonymous works right?

You might cut the head off one, but 7 more grow in its place.

His name was Robert Paulson.

Howard Finkelstein: Uh, yeah, right. The difficulty there is proving that the address wasn't spoofed. Not to mention they're completely changeable on most laptop wireless cards, so it's not exactly a complex thing to do.

Exactly, they could have even bought a cheapo card just for this purpose, then thrown it away. But, it would be easier just to spoof it.

No FARK archive links to ye olde "ZOMG our phones are wiretapped!" threads, or the now classic "Your ISP giving logs to FBI" threads?

And everyone's getting in a huff because... a PROMINANT REPUBLICAN POLITICIAN HAD HER PRIVACY VIOLATED?

Not all Americans are created equal, huh?

Guess those in love with illegal spying don't like being spied on.

Stoj:
If they were in the US, and this happened in the middle of the night, the odds of them being in a library or using a free hotspot decrease by about 50%.

What are the odds of someone getting away with this doing doing it off an unsecured WiFi network?

/making notes for future lulz

Legion reporting.

:D

/win

begun, the tard wars have.

What if he jams them?

Better luck next time slugheads!

Code_Archeologist:

This showed up first on the /b/ forum of 4Chan, the person was not looking for damning evidence to make Sarah Palin unelectable... they were looking for the LOLZ. Hence the reason why there was no real effort or preparation put into this.


You just broke rules 1 and 2.

Stoj: I'll bet someone a month of TF that they have this person's name within 7 days.

I'll take that bet.

what_now: This wasn't a hack. A hack would be if he bypassed the login all together. This guy just figured out what Palin's dog's name was, or something.

Social Engineering is hacking. Not sophisticated, but do you really need to be to crack the Palin code?

Please please please let the hacker be a bright, un-indictable 12 year-old. That would be a win on so many levels.

Let's go over some basic IP information here when it come's to IP and MAC addy spoofing.

You CAN spoof an IP and a MAC address, however this is only useful if you only need the information to go one direction, as in a Denial of Service attack. If you are attempting to access a website, however, a spoofed IP and MAC will do you no good because when the server attempts to send repy packets back to the requesting machine, the information will be lost. This makes it impossible for someone to spoof an IP and/or MAC and be able to access IP based information.

The only way the /b/tards won't be caught is if they were on a wireless hotspot that does not take information from the host machine, though most of them do just incase people attempt illegal activities from their connection.

/b/ is dumb, they couldnt hack a typewriter without getting caught.