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(London Times)   Top 10 books NOT to read before you die. Book #5: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. "Dreary ramblings of an unreliable and workshy tosspot"   (entertainment.timesonline.co.uk ) divider line
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2008-09-18 08:05:39 AM  
FAIL indeed.

This list needs more Atlas Shrugged.
 
2008-09-18 08:23:11 AM  
Not to worry. I'm sure most of them made Palin's burn list.
 
2008-09-18 08:25:22 AM  
The author of the article, Richard Wilson, has figured out that lazily insulting sacred cows is a good way to get traffic and sell books.

It's like internet trolling, professionally.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2008-09-18 08:25:28 AM  
I liked Fear and Loathing. I have not read and have no plans to read most of the rest. I might have read the Austen -- I forget which one we did in high school English class.
 
2008-09-18 08:34:10 AM  
List writer is the British equivalent of the "Get a brain Morans! Go USA" guy.

Here's the list:

10. Ulysses - James Joyce
9. Lord of the Rings - JRR Tolkien
8. For Whom the Bell Tolls - Ernest Hemingway
7. À la Recherche du Temps Perdu - Marcel Proust
6. The Dice Man - Luke Reinhart
5. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - Hunter S Thompson
4. The Beauty Myth - Naomi Wolff
3. War and Peace - Leo Tolstoy
2. The Iliad -- Homer
1. Pride and Prejudice - Jane Austen

I'm 5/10 and partway through Proust. Although I haven't read War and Peace, the Beauty Myth, The Dice Man or Ulysses yet, the others are completely worth reading. You have to be a complete idiot not to appreciate Pride & Prejudice, and I suppose that sums up the author of that article quite well.
 
2008-09-18 08:37:28 AM  
Wow. I'm surprised he managed to pack three whole choices on that first page before being forced onto another one. It's unfortunate that web pages don't offer more space to list text.

Oh, and if you believe any of his choices represent his real opinions, and aren't just some transparent attempt to generate controversy and web traffic, well...you're exactly the sort of trained monkey he's counting on to respond to this list.
 
2008-09-18 08:55:26 AM  
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas was amusing, but Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail is infinitely better.
 
2008-09-18 09:16:03 AM  
FTFA: Taken From Can't Be Arsed: 101 Things Not to Do Before You Die by Richard Wilson (Portico Books, £9.99). Illustrations © Jack Noel.

Translated: "You generate some controversy to get us page hits, and you get free advertising at the end from us."

Apart from that, I find Jane Austen to not have aged particularly well, and fail to enjoy her tripe. I find Steinbeck's "The Pearl" to be the most overrated novel ever.

Of course, I'm European, so I can also adapt to the notion "I don't get this book, but someone else might" instead of the American "I don't get this book, there's something wrong with anyone who likes it!"
 
2008-09-18 09:24:31 AM  

Cornwell: FTFA: Taken From Can't Be Arsed: 101 Things Not to Do Before You Die by Richard Wilson (Portico Books, £9.99). Illustrations © Jack Noel.

Translated: "You generate some controversy to get us page hits, and you get free advertising at the end from us."

Apart from that, I find Jane Austen to not have aged particularly well, and fail to enjoy her tripe. I find Steinbeck's "The Pearl" to be the most overrated novel ever.

Of course, I'm European, so I can also adapt to the notion "I don't get this book, but someone else might" instead of the American "I don't get this book, there's something wrong with anyone who likes it!"



Entirely sound, although you are close to having said 'I didn't like this article, and there's something wrong with anyone who did'

:)
 
2008-09-18 09:44:54 AM  
I agree with Fear and Loathing. Hated that book.
 
2008-09-18 09:45:03 AM  
Personally Jane Austin is a good- *looks around, realizing only teen guy that reads Austin* I mean... I was strapped to a chair and forced to read her books. Yes... thats it...
 
2008-09-18 09:45:35 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas was amusing, but Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail is infinitely better.


I am reading it now. I keep pissing off Mr. Duff by taking quotes out of it... they are so apt for today, that he asks 'which pundit said that?' I reveal the book (usually I've hidden it behind a magazine for the purposes of this prank), and then he goes off in a huff. I think I've done it four times now, and he keeps falling for it. I don't know whether it is a sign of how astute Hunter S. Thompson was, or how things in politics just don't change.

And as an aside, that list writer can go fark himself. Some of my favorite books are on that list. Iliad, indeed!!! The 13-year old version of me had an epiphany over that book, that soaps had nothing on the classics!
 
2008-09-18 09:45:53 AM  
FTFA: Carrying a copy of Tolkien's monstrous tome was the equivalent of a leper's bell: 'Unclean! Unclean!'

Win! I hate those books.
 
2008-09-18 09:45:54 AM  
His critique of Hemingway is right and smart and true.
 
2008-09-18 09:46:06 AM  

Cornwell: Apart from that, I find Jane Austen to not have aged particularly well, and fail to enjoy her tripe. I find Steinbeck's "The Pearl" to be the most overrated novel ever.


I think we read that book in fourth or fifth grade, unless I'm confused with another book. I thought it was for 9-10 year olds. Is it really considered a great literary work?
 
2008-09-18 09:46:10 AM  
I don't understand. Should I wait until after I die?
 
2008-09-18 09:47:37 AM  

CtrlAltDelete: The author of the article, Richard Wilson, has figured out that lazily insulting sacred cows is a good way to get traffic and sell books.

It's like internet trolling, professionally.


well put
 
2008-09-18 09:47:47 AM  
He's doing it for the lulz. Anti-intellectualism is fun for the callous troll(op).

I'm just glad he didn't include The Count of Monte Cristo, 'cause then I'd-a been genuinely pissed.
 
2008-09-18 09:47:51 AM  

zymurgist: FAIL indeed.

This list needs more Atlas Shrugged.


Beat me to it.

Goddamnit, I hate that book so much. I made myself finish it, I grudge read it.

"Beowulf" as well.
 
2008-09-18 09:48:14 AM  
God, what an arse of a journalist. Okay, 'Dice Man' was a pretty disgusting novel, but Austen was hilarious and cutting and caustic, so the person who wrote it clearly wasn't understanding something there.
 
2008-09-18 09:48:30 AM  
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2008-09-18 09:48:39 AM  
I bought my copy of Fear & Loathing in a used bookstore. The owner must be this writer's soul sibling. She had it shelved under the "True Crime" genre.
 
2008-09-18 09:48:44 AM  
"A Confederacy of Dunces" strangely absent. O'Toole should have killed himself BEFORE writing that one.
 
2008-09-18 09:49:14 AM  
Of course, I'm European, so I can also adapt to the notion "I don't get this book, but someone else might" instead of the American "I don't get this book, there's something wrong with anyone who likes it!"

Right, because that's even remotely representative of europeans and 'merkins.
 
2008-09-18 09:49:15 AM  
[SATIRE] tag conspicuously absent.

If anyone had bothered to read the forward in TFA, this thread wouldn't exist.
 
2008-09-18 09:49:26 AM  
The only one i agree with on that list is Joyce. And even then, I wouldn't discourage people from reading it; it's well-written, it's just not a book I'd enjoy reading the whole of.

/Now Nicholas Sparks and Nora Roberts, that's another ball game entirely
//Yes, I actually liked Pride and Prejudice
///No, I'm not letting you revoke my Man Card
////Give it back!
//Please?
//Pretty please?
 
2008-09-18 09:49:40 AM  
The article's author is so hip that it hurts.
 
2008-09-18 09:50:17 AM  
dothemath: zymurgist: FAIL indeed.

This list needs more Atlas Shrugged.

Beat me to it.

Goddamnit, I hate that book so much. I made myself finish it, I grudge read it.


I tried on 4 separate occasions to try to read it, at least a year apart. Never made it past page 89 on any try. That book, or at least the segment I read, was the biggest load of wank ever committed to paper. And yet, I LOVE The Fountainhead - go figure.
 
2008-09-18 09:50:27 AM  
The list should read more like this. #1 through #10 - The Scarlet Letter.
 
2008-09-18 09:50:29 AM  
this one time, i didn't read Madame Bovary on the cruise to the Caribbean i didn't take. Instead, i chose not to see the Taj Mahal.

i have great pictures that i didn't take.
 
2008-09-18 09:50:47 AM  
This guy sounds like an as$-hat.
 
2008-09-18 09:52:13 AM  
Naomi Wolff seems out of place on that list, as she is a bit more recent than the rest

/haven't read that book
//enjoyed "The End of America: A Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot"
 
2008-09-18 09:52:15 AM  

eriphila: "A Confederacy of Dunces" strangely absent. O'Toole should have killed himself BEFORE writing that one.


Could barely begin it, much less finish it.
 
2008-09-18 09:52:17 AM  

eriphila: "A Confederacy of Dunces" strangely absent. O'Toole should have killed himself BEFORE writing that one.


9/10


/This must be a troll, 'cause you can't be serious.
 
2008-09-18 09:52:31 AM  
Okay, I agree with #4 and #6, but otherwise the author is an ass.

All of the rest are worth reading.
 
2008-09-18 09:52:41 AM  

Cornwell: Apart from that, I find Jane Austen to not have aged particularly well...


Always remember to store your English novelists sideways in a cool, dark environment.
 
2008-09-18 09:53:45 AM  
Hilarious:

"I don't know if Naomi is a genuine academic - I couldn't be arsed to Google her - if she is, she is probably Emeritus Professor of the bleeding obvious. "
 
2008-09-18 09:54:35 AM  

galactus5000: dothemath: zymurgist: FAIL indeed.

This list needs more Atlas Shrugged.

Beat me to it.

Goddamnit, I hate that book so much. I made myself finish it, I grudge read it.

I tried on 4 separate occasions to try to read it, at least a year apart. Never made it past page 89 on any try. That book, or at least the segment I read, was the biggest load of wank ever committed to paper. And yet, I LOVE The Fountainhead - go figure.


I plan to read it eventually but im going to wait until I have some serious time on my hands like in a POW camp or a rocket flight to Jupiter.
 
2008-09-18 09:54:43 AM  

Bartleby the Scrivener: this one time, i didn't read Madame Bovary on the cruise to the Caribbean i didn't take. Instead, i chose not to see the Taj Mahal.

i dont have great pictures that i didn't take.


FTFY
 
2008-09-18 09:55:40 AM  

galactus5000: dothemath: zymurgist: FAIL indeed.

This list needs more Atlas Shrugged.

Beat me to it.

Goddamnit, I hate that book so much. I made myself finish it, I grudge read it.

I tried on 4 separate occasions to try to read it, at least a year apart. Never made it past page 89 on any try. That book, or at least the segment I read, was the biggest load of wank ever committed to paper. And yet, I LOVE The Fountainhead - go figure.


Reading Atlas Shrugged is like eating dry oatmeal. Dreary and painful.
 
2008-09-18 09:56:01 AM  
FTFA "The best way to fight the massed ranks of recommended books is with an offensively glib and, if possible, ill-informed reason for not bothering with them."
 
2008-09-18 09:56:14 AM  

Philip J. Fry: Cornwell: Apart from that, I find Jane Austen to not have aged particularly well, and fail to enjoy her tripe. I find Steinbeck's "The Pearl" to be the most overrated novel ever.

I think we read that book in fourth or fifth grade, unless I'm confused with another book. I thought it was for 9-10 year olds. Is it really considered a great literary work?


You're probably thinking of The Black Pearl by Scott O'Dell. I remember reading that in elementary school.
 
2008-09-18 09:56:18 AM  
"3: War and Peace - Leo Tolstoy

Way, way too long. "


Wow. That's poor judgment.
 
2008-09-18 09:56:22 AM  
It takes a lot to make me stop lurking and actually log in. This list is rot. I'm 8/10 of the texts listed, an all 8 I've read have great merit. There are few books in the (quite limited) modern educational cannon worth passing on. The fact that they are considered important enough not to be dropped for Standardized Testing preparation should be indication enough (as not even the statistic crazed public school boards will drop them).

Perhaps the only book I've read and would advocate passing on is Eragon. Just because you publish young doesn't make your work good.

/rant off
//second ever post
///be gentle
 
2008-09-18 09:56:22 AM  
You know, The Iliad could easily lose 30-35% of its material and it wouldn't be missed by more than 1% of readers.

Take out the "boats" chapter, which is about as interesting as an excel spreadsheet, and then replace about 1/2 of all fight scenes with "and then they fought a bunch, and a dozen or so people are named as having died, but they're not mentioned anywhere else in the book or in any other extant literature, so who cares".

The Odyssey, on the other hand... touch one word and I'll kills ya!
 
2008-09-18 09:56:41 AM  
Fear and Loathing is one of the few movies that I would reccomend before reading the book. It is by far my favorite movie (I have my reasons). The book is an excellent piece of pop culture and at 200 pages, you would be an idiot not to read it at least once.
 
2008-09-18 09:56:50 AM  
www.orbitcast.com

Luke who?

/hotlinked without shame
//Ohh!
 
2008-09-18 09:56:50 AM  

CtrlAltDelete: The author of the article, Richard Wilson, has figured out that lazily insulting sacred cows is a good way to get traffic and sell books.

It's like internet trolling, professionally.


I think that needs to be a new career choice in "the Sims" ... perhaps "gadfly" can be the career line with "Nader" as the top poistion - the only one where you need NO friends to get and stay there.
 
2008-09-18 09:57:07 AM  
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Number 6 a biography?
 
2008-09-18 09:57:08 AM  

eschatus:
i dont have great pictures that i didn't take.

FTFY


no, that's not true.

pic:
 
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