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(Washington Post)   Kazaa continues to "flip the bird" to RIAA and other groups   ( divider line
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14006 clicks; posted to Main » on 21 Dec 2002 at 6:18 PM (14 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2002-12-21 01:41:56 PM  
Well, duh.
2002-12-21 01:58:21 PM  
Good. fark THE RIAA.
2002-12-21 01:59:06 PM  
hmm...when your words are auto replaced, the filter doesnt recognize caps. how about that?
2002-12-21 02:00:17 PM  
The programmers insist they did not set out to help people trade music and movies illegally.

"No, really officer - I never would have sold him those drugs if I'd known he was going to go right out and abuse them. He said he had a heart condidition, and after all, he's a Doctor of Journalism."
2002-12-21 02:47:01 PM  
Kazaa sucks all kinds of ass. KazaaLite rules, however...
2002-12-21 03:21:09 PM  
In case anyone did't know(yea right)Kazza has spyware. The lite version is ok, though as long as you virus scan everything you download. The RIAA serves no porpose other that to fatten record executives bank accounts. I do support the bands I like by going to their concerts but I will not buy cd's.
2002-12-21 06:24:44 PM  
Yeah, kazaa has spyware and adware, and it (used to?) comes with banzi buddy.

Get the Lite version at:
2002-12-21 06:28:11 PM  
<Shatner Voice>


</Shatner Voice>
2002-12-21 06:29:10 PM  
Who's on first, What's on second and Kazza's on third.

Nailing these guys down will be as easy as herding cats.
2002-12-21 06:29:26 PM  
The RIAA bring it on themselves. Karma at work.
2002-12-21 06:30:13 PM  

I feel exactly the same way. I haven't bought a retail CD in forever, although I occasionally buy CDs and demos at live shows (and promptly rip them to mp3s).

Seeing a band live is a better experience than buying a cd, costs about the same (now), and helps you discover new avenues of music you didn't know existed, as well as promoting the band.

I will keep my 10,000 mp3s, thanks. If the RIAA wants reparations they can send my ass a subpeona.
2002-12-21 06:30:27 PM  
The lawyers for the RIAA in that article come off like a fark conservative.
2002-12-21 06:32:26 PM  
At any given time, more than 3 million people are running the program, double the number that Napster had at its peak.

I remember being on Napster with 9 million others at the same time.
2002-12-21 06:32:33 PM  
Instead of making a deal with Napster -- a single, US based company whom that could negotiate with, they shut it down. They brought this upon themselves. Good luck with Kazaa dumbass RIAA people.
2002-12-21 06:33:21 PM  
Why are you dissing your FARK brethren?
2002-12-21 06:33:51 PM  
This deserves the "Hero" tag. About time the RIAA find out that they can't get rid of all file-sharing programs out there. What are they gonna try next: Outlaw CD burners?
2002-12-21 06:34:25 PM  
Oops, forgot to close tag. BAD KITTY!
2002-12-21 06:34:26 PM  
I'm not a big fan of "pirating" copyrighted work, and much less of a fan of the RIAA. However, it seems like the record companies could have figured out a way to make downloading tracks, ala carte, a profit-making venture without screwing users too badly. It bothers me to no end to pay $18-20 for a CD that only has 2-3 tracks I like. Instead, I have have to pay for crap I skip past. I'd guess it will only get worse as the RIAA, etc. doesn't really seem to grasp how fast technology is advancing, especially online.
2002-12-21 06:34:26 PM  
Most gratuitously arrogant quote from a lawyer in a long time: "'They did it intentionally to get around the Napster decision,' said Matthew J. Oppenheim, one of the entertainment industry's lawyers."

That's right, folks! The U.S. has the only TRUE system of law in the world, and all those folks in other countries are living under false legal systems, deluding themselves into to believing that their abhorrent behavior is legal.

The fact that, so far as I know, none of the programmers have even stepped foot in the US, much less have resided here, is of course, entirely irrelevant.

Coming next week - thousands of British men between the ages of 18 and 20 were rounded up in a massive ATF sting! "Underage drinking is a crime, no matter where it occurs," one ATF official is quoted as saying.
2002-12-21 06:34:28 PM  
This is great. It's like the internet vs the US courts. I think the US courts and the RIAA are going to end up as the losers in this case.
2002-12-21 06:35:27 PM  
Even if the prices of CD's went down to 5 bucks, everyone would still download them for free. I'm sick of people biatching about the price. You and I both know as long as its free, we will download.

2002-12-21 06:37:04 PM

Back at ya RIAA
2002-12-21 06:37:37 PM  
The RIAA assumes that because it has a lock on the US music market, file swapping is dead and its future is assured. Quoth the KaZaA: "Fsck you".
2002-12-21 06:37:50 PM  
I'd buy lots of CDs for $5 each.
2002-12-21 06:37:51 PM  
10,000 mp3's. Damn dude,how big is your hard drive?
2002-12-21 06:39:23 PM  
Was it just me, or did anyone else thick for a second that guy that helped to start kazaa was Bill Gates with more hair?
2002-12-21 06:40:58 PM  
The RIAA is farked and they know it. They just don't want to own up to the fact that they are.
2002-12-21 06:42:07 PM  
I had a huge smile on my face as I read this.
Even if the RIAA somehow manages to dispose of Kazaa, there is another file sharing program out there waiting to make its debut.

Let them drain their pockets trying to stop it. They can't.
2002-12-21 06:43:21 PM  
All hail Estonia
Kazaalite says I am a Supreme Being
Who am I to argue?
2002-12-21 06:43:51 PM  
I kinda feel bad for anyone that creates anything, now. I don't think I really know anyone that pays for anything anymore.
2002-12-21 06:43:56 PM  
I downloaded Kazaa flipping off RIAA for free off the internet.
2002-12-21 06:44:46 PM  
Also, why doesnt the RIAA go after big coorperations like AOL and SONY? AOL allows you to send songs to each other and SONY gives us the ability to burn them to a disc.
2002-12-21 06:46:51 PM  
Oops I meant corporations. I think. Wait..dude where's my beer?
2002-12-21 06:47:58 PM  

(Waits for dumbass recording industry sychophant to start a flame war...)
2002-12-21 06:49:48 PM  

Extremely well put.
2002-12-21 06:50:04 PM  
WizardX: It's a good thing they haven't stepped foot on US soil, too, what with the Skylarov / ElcomSoft trial going on. The RIAA wants to play for keeps, let them try doing it in 5 different countries, with a company that seems to be using a pretty slick "moving target" legal strategy.
2002-12-21 06:50:24 PM  
I wonder if one day the dream of 'getting signed' to a contract will be out the window. Seems like the more popular you are, the more people just download your stuff for free. What's the point of trying to make good music?
2002-12-21 06:51:21 PM  
EnergyDrain: I must differ with you. At $5 a piece, I'd go to Tower with a farking U-Haul. Hell, I'd think about divorcing my wife, just to have the extra CD cash.
2002-12-21 06:52:41 PM  
Even if the prices of CD's went down to 5 bucks, everyone would still download them for free. I'm sick of people biatching about the price. You and I both know as long as its free, we will download

I respectfully disagree. I might even go as high as 10 bucks for new releases.

When the RIAA stops charging breakage rates defined in the age of shellack 72s, invests in artists instead of image, drop the SS act, and acknowledges fair use, I'll lay off. Until then, fark them and the lawyers they rode in on. Fark them hard and put them away wet.
2002-12-21 06:54:21 PM  
Hmmm. Lets do the math.

$5.00 a CD, for 20 CD's = $100.00

Free downloads off Kazaa = $0.00

What's the logical choice?
2002-12-21 06:55:18 PM  
If you state "cheap CD's" as grounds for divorce I don't think you'll end up with much $ after the settlement. ;)
2002-12-21 06:55:24 PM  
Drives. Plural.
2002-12-21 06:57:19 PM  
Let the Sub-Net Rule!!!

Sacrafice small fuzzy animals to the net to find the files you want!

/obscure, but hopefully correct h.p. Lovecraft refrence.
2002-12-21 06:58:46 PM  
I find it strange that the RIAA doesn't realize that they are wasting time going after networks, since they simply will get replaced by different networks.

Their only possible strategy that might work is to go after the individual users sharing files. They're going to have to do that eventually, when people start leaving networks that can be shut down (like Kazaa and the late FastTrack-based Morpheus) and going to networks that cannot be shut down like Gnutella.

Is there a legal reason they haven't done this?
2002-12-21 06:58:47 PM  
Kazaa is just one of many peer-to-peer(P2P) network programs. I would imagine that none of them get shut down because of their decentralized nature. I would be more concerned that the RIAA goes after ISP's and tries to block access and insert spyware to them to follow everyones internet movement. They already have begun to do this, so watch out. International sattellite ISP's for all. YEAH!
2002-12-21 06:59:01 PM  
...invests in artists instead of image...

I wholeheartedly agree. The success of American Idol was a sad, sad day.

Right now there are incredibly innovative bands that make beautiful music and that get no radio play. Music is precious to me, and it saddens me that half-baked artists with bling bling and biatches sell records.
2002-12-21 06:59:19 PM  
Internet explorer is the program used every day to download warez off websites.. so is netscape, aol, the list goes on. Yet you dont see RIAA going after em.. why? Because its the user committing the crime, not the software developers. Its not a crime to write a p2p program. Kazaa has no legal responsibility whatsoever if someone decides to use their program to trade the latest lotr movie. Just as microsoft or AOL has no responsibility if someone uses their browser to download warez from a website.
2002-12-21 07:00:40 PM  
Energy Drain: Since people are still buying CD's now, I fail to see how you think a reduction in the price would cause the sales to fall further.
2002-12-21 07:05:08 PM  
RevRor: They have begun talking about filing complaints and suing people they deem "supernodes" recently. The reason they don't go after individual users is they already have bad PR, if ordinary people all over the US begin to have their homes raided and put in jail because their kid downloaded some songs, the backlash would be far too much. It would force changes in law that they would not like.
2002-12-21 07:07:00 PM  
KrazyKanuck: What are they gonna try next: Outlaw CD burners?

For some reason, I think someone said something to that effect once. I doubt that they have as much of a leg to stand on there (not like they have much of one for any of their other antics, but I digress...)
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