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2008-09-12 05:20:10 PM
Daffydil: Mister_man: WOW well I guess we or at least I learned something today.

I guess I have to take that pin off my jean jacket now.

/:(

Oh please don't make the sad face....you could keep it on your jacket...no one would be teh wiser


OK see I could have used this info sooner now EVERYONE knows!

/so ashamed
 
2008-09-12 05:20:19 PM
Daffydil: Oh got dam that hurt my eyes when they rolled...I'm going to have to leave this thread.

Florida is right up there with Texas when it comes to the latitude afforded homeowners in defending their homes.

You REALLY have to come right out and pretty much say "I knew he wasn't a threat, but I beat him anyway" in order to be charged.

If you say that you felt the naked guy in your daughter's room was a threat and that you did what you felt necessary to neutralize the threat, the cops are not going to arrest you.
 
2008-09-12 05:21:07 PM
RetiredTroll: GT_bike: \
This is exactly why people like you and Dr. Spock are known to be frauds, single, and addicted to porn. L

Any dipwad who thinks young girls fully comprehend the implications of sex as a youth, as in 15, take a seat you filthy pig!

First of all SHE does not have the right to allow people in the house if she was not granted that right, she did not pay for it! Property rights and Parental Rights trump her hormonal trysts at 4AM.

As the father of 4 girls I find your attempt at comedy or seriousness should get a couple of years in prison, you'd kill for a lead pipe then.


Judging from your attitude, I think it is pretty likely that you are exactly the sort of asinine father who is so overbearing that his daughters hide stuff from him. Good job there champ, way to raise a family.
Also, I see being a grandparent in your near future. Your daughters will still have the same natural curiousity about dick that any straight female has, they will just be to scared and ill informed to use birth control or condoms when they decide to experiment.


Yes that's it you the clairevoyant all seething troll ready at the moment's notice to make a great statement based on 0 facts.

My girls and I have a great relationship and they know they don't have to hide things, but they know the consequenses for breaking house rules. No boys in their rooms, period. At 4 AM they better be prepared for a half-asleep knee jerk reaction.

All you peace-knicks crack me up thinking you'd react so calm and wise in a 4AM moment with a naked person in your daughter's room.

So troll...have any daughters?
 
2008-09-12 05:22:00 PM
Fellows: While I'm firmly in the camp of the guy was justified to attack a naked stranger he found in his teenage daughter's bedroom not knowing it was her boyfriend...

Wow. Just wow.

I'm in a fair bit of shock that there are so many people out there defending this father. Take the story down to its essentials: a 15-year old daughter with a naked male in her bedroom. What is the reasonable probability that the male is an attacker of such visciousness that there is no time to even question him before attacking him like an animal? I think you'd be insane to suggest that it's even 50%. There's no possible way in which this father's actions are justified, and, since he restored to animalistic, savage violence, he should be put in jail and left to rot.
 
2008-09-12 05:22:09 PM
Here's an article with more details:
http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/breakingnews/father091108.ht m
 
2008-09-12 05:22:20 PM
Where the father failed: not teaching his daughter about sex.

Where the daughter failed: having sex (protected or not) in her house while her father was there.

Next time you want to let a boy into your pants who just wants your body (which at that age it's the only thing), go to his house. Why? Because if you get caught at his house by his dad, you'll get a much better response.
 
2008-09-12 05:22:28 PM
SchlingFocker: ehrichweiss: Where can I get some of what you're smoking? Seriously, do you NOT believe he felt he was protecting his daughter from an intruder?

Probably not. If he had told the police that he thought an intruder was trying to hurt his daughter and that he had done what he felt necessary to defend his daughter and his home, he wouldn't have been arrested.


Right... because the police get to decide if you have a valid defense, huh? What if he shot the kid? The police wouldn't bother arresting him if he only told them "I swear officer, I honestly felt it was necessary!"
 
2008-09-12 05:24:01 PM
Belltower: sinner3k: And good luck with the 11-year old. You'll start growing gray hairs at an exponential rate.

It's OK, some women go crazy for the salt and pepper look.


That's what I keep telling Mrs. 3k, but she's obviously not one of 'em. As if she didn't put most of them there!

\I keed!!!
\\But seriously, I had three gray hairs when I met her.
\\\Will look like Steve Martin by the time I've raised a daughter.
 
2008-09-12 05:24:21 PM
nopokerface, you are a violent loony toon. and i have a very very very (i could add very a few more times) strong suspicion that your knowledge of the laws surrounding this assault are partial at best.

the idea that this kid is tresspassing has got to be preposterous. in no way, shape or form does the owner of a residence have to grant explicit permission to everyone who enters it. just think of renters. i'm nearly certain that every permanent occupant and additionally any non-occupant who has been granted permission to be present in a home themself has full ability to invite any guest over until any permanent occupant has asked them to leave. the daughter is a permanent occupant and any guest of hers is not tresspassing, regardless of her ownership. even if this family had an exchange student staying with them for two weeks, any guest of the exchange student is not tresspassing.

ignorance of a house guest does not make assault (or plausible attempted murder) legal!!! nor does some jackass castle doctrine.
 
2008-09-12 05:24:29 PM
Excellent, submitter.
 
2008-09-12 05:24:58 PM
Zaphodius: tough g

The dad was charged with assaulting a minor so...not rape.
 
2008-09-12 05:25:36 PM
RetiredTroll
"slag" (=slut).

Actually "slag" is Welsh slang for prostitute.
 
2008-09-12 05:26:04 PM
R.A.Danny: Psychotropic: meekychuppet: Stranger? It was her boyfriend you imbecile.

He did not know it was his daughter's boyfriend. He didn't even know his daughter had a boyfriend. He went to investigate a suspicious noise at 4:45 AM and found a naked man he didn't know in his 15 year old daughter's bedroom.

Imbecile.

You need to realize Meeky> is not a troll here, he honestly believes that you should never ever defend yourself and to be weak is valid protection. At least he's consistent.


That's why he's on my ignore list.
 
2008-09-12 05:26:18 PM
Why o why did he call the cops? The kid might never have reported the assault (depending on how bad it was).
 
2008-09-12 05:26:23 PM
Yeah, and I'm sure Daddy was probably always a gentleman at all times with other Men's daughters.

/you're all idiots.
 
2008-09-12 05:27:16 PM
rickycal78: Just cuz I did it then doesn't mean that now with age and maturity I think it was right of me to be doing.

Yeah.. That's why our parents keep us around until we pull our heads out of our asses instead of just leaving us a few sammiches and a bus ticket when we learn to walk.
 
2008-09-12 05:28:09 PM
Wow, so many people upset over what the father did. I never know so many farkers were banging teenagers.
 
2008-09-12 05:28:51 PM
Bhopper: SchlingFocker
Many fathers are happy to discover their sons are getting laid but horrified to discover their daughters are getting laid.

It's sexism/misogyny.

This bears repeating. So many of you posting here did/do nearly anything to get action (well, to try at least) -- getting girls drunk, telling them lies, pressuring them, drugging 'em up, etc, etc. Now here's a girl, who clearly had poor parental guidance, having sex with her *boyfriend of at least one year* and she's a "whore", "skank" and, oh yeah, "she should be hit with the lead pipe."

Absolutely pathetic - y'all sound like a bunch of bitter hypocrites who didn't/aren't getting any in your teens. Don't chastise post-pubescent girls doing what comes naturally just because you couldn't close. You're like small-dicked Hummer drivers.

You would have gladly farked this girl sneaking in her bedroom when you were in her age group, right? She wouldn't have been a skanky whore then, right? But girls wanted no part of you...


Nope, categorizing men as sex raged sluts bent on getting whatever, whenever with whomever. Fail. Real men do exist but you keep thinking with a liberal mind hoping to find them in places where others prey on their weaknesses, like bars, strip clubs and Fark forums.

Had a father and mohter who taught me how to respect women, teaching my girls to do the same to themselves.

The "if it feels good do it" mentality totally ignores automated consequences of physics, physiology and emotions. I weep for the darkened minds of humanity.
 
2008-09-12 05:33:23 PM
SonikTooth: ignorance of a house guest does not make assault (or plausible attempted murder) legal!!! nor does some jackass castle doctrine.

I think we could all find some common ground here - if the boy laying pipe to this guy's daughter was not seriously injured, IMO, he should be let off light. If he repeatedly beat the living fark out of dude even with his daughter protesting, then it shows that he needs to spend some time away.
 
2008-09-12 05:33:50 PM
sloppy shoes: nd as for your comments about parenting above, it is not so simple to instill into a child their rights, boundaries and respect. Many kids are simply rebellious. Many children have good parents and turn up duds. Teenagers suck! FTFY There really isn't enough detail about the situation to comment on his parenting.
 
2008-09-12 05:39:11 PM
LiveStalk: Belltower: LiveStalk: Who goes a year without giving/receiving oral?

You're not married, are you?

/I keed, or do I?

Oral while she's menstruating is necessary for true red wings.

I am married....you do not keed.

/Birthday in 2 weeks
//Annual oral
///FTW, or FTL???


Apparently is not for the squeamish, but they persist in trying and complaining.
 
2008-09-12 05:42:11 PM
He may have really been Angry over having the last name COLON!
 
2008-09-12 05:43:52 PM
This sort of reminds me of what happened to one of my brother's friends. He snuck into his girlfriend's room one night and the girl's mother heard them, came into the room and caught them in the act. He jumped out of the window with no clothes on, with a TV following right behind him. He ran back to his house (in the same neighborhood) and his Dad asked what happened because he saw his nekkid @$$ climbing back into his bedroom.

/he was known as Streakin Nekkid Jack after that.
 
2008-09-12 05:46:04 PM
stiletto_the_wise: IdBeCrazyIf: .....schlick, schlick, schlick....

*fap*

I thought I left this shiat when I left IRC...


You're new here aren't you
 
2008-09-12 05:47:20 PM
Zaphodius: trueaustinite: Zaphodius: I would have shot him personally..

[MENTAL IMAGE]

Fat balding guy sitting at his computer in his underwear. Orange Cheetos crust on his briefs. Head tilted slightly back, eyes shut, saying "FLAH FLAH FLAH

Not particularly a tough guy, but yes I would without hesitation.

she's 15... it's rape


Umm...where are you getting this from? No where in the article does it say her age. Not to mention the fact that if the boy was also a minor then it's not rape. Unless she's the one doing the raping. I can see that.
 
2008-09-12 05:47:20 PM
stiletto_the_wise: "Castle Doctrine!!" [THUMP] "Intruder!!" [THUMP] "Castle Doctrine!!" [THUMP]

This made me laugh, well played.
 
2008-09-12 05:50:39 PM
digitalrain: Yeah. Because we all know that kids never hide things from "good mommies and daddies".

She deliberately did not tell her father about the BF. Probably thought that at 13 (she's 15 now and has been seeing him for 18 mos) he would tell her she was too young to have said BF.

As for why the father 'happened' to have the metal pipe, once he heard the noises, he went and got the pipe from the garage.


i don't think if i went into a room in my house, regardless of who was in there, at 4AM and found a naked man that "talking reasonably about the situation" would have been my Weeners either...
 
2008-09-12 05:51:44 PM
I hate writers like these, they find out after the event about dad not knowing anything but put it in the first paragraph to start the hatred of dad.

Then on the last line the punk kid's dad is said to think he might not even press charges...but dad was taken to jail anyway.

No media bias, we report you decide.
 
2008-09-12 05:52:05 PM
I have bad news for all of you fark dads. If you have daughters, and they're 15 or older, they're getting more wang than a Chinatown parade. And as long as they don't get pregnant or diseased: GOOD FOR THEM.
 
2008-09-12 05:52:10 PM
I at least remember how horny all teenagers were when I was a teenager. I wanted to have sex and so did a lot of girl. My personal policy is that if my daughters bring home boys who seem to be decent human beings I'll turn my head to a degree.

If they bring home douchebags, out comes the lead pipe.
 
2008-09-12 05:55:39 PM
kactuspatch: I have bad news for all of you fark dads. If you have daughters, and they're 15 or older, they're getting more wang than a Chinatown parade. And as long as they don't get pregnant or diseased: GOOD FOR THEM.

spoken as though you spend too much time with said 15 year-olds, have seat.
 
2008-09-12 05:57:03 PM
trancemission: Right... because the police get to decide if you have a valid defense, huh? What if he shot the kid? The police wouldn't bother arresting him if he only told them "I swear officer, I honestly felt it was necessary!"

Well, the police conduct their investigation and determine whether or not an arrest is warranted.

In general, at least in TX or FL, if you shoot an intruder in your home and tell the police that you felt he was a threat, you're not going to be arrested or charged.
 
2008-09-12 05:59:02 PM
GT_bike: kactuspatch: I have bad news for all of you fark dads. If you have daughters, and they're 15 or older, they're getting more wang than a Chinatown parade. And as long as they don't get pregnant or diseased: GOOD FOR THEM.

spoken as though you spend too much time with said 15 year-olds, have seat.


Flawless logic. Sounds like someone has a daughter who likes the cock and is just realizing he's powerless. Uh oh!
 
2008-09-12 06:02:03 PM
theoriginalslash:

You don't boink your boyfriend at YOUR house when you're a teenage girls still living at home. You do it at his place.


Exactly. The boyfriend's dad didn't care if we had sex as long as we were discreet about it.
 
2008-09-12 06:03:24 PM
Why is it impressed on guys that sex will make a man out of them without explaining that it might also make them a daddy?
 
2008-09-12 06:04:15 PM
GT_bike: RetiredTroll: Dear Fathers,

Your daughters are women. They have vaginas. They will learn what they are for. Get over yourself. Any father who feels the need to control his daughter's sex life has serious issues. Any father who assaults his daughter's boyfriend is a disturbed individual and deserves to spend a couple of years in prison.


Signed,

Rational, Balanced People

This is exactly why people like you and Dr. Spock are known to be frauds, single, and addicted to porn. L

Any dipwad who thinks young girls fully comprehend the implications of sex as a youth, as in 15, take a seat you filthy pig!

First of all SHE does not have the right to allow people in the house if she was not granted that right, she did not pay for it! Property rights and Parental Rights trump her hormonal trysts at 4AM.

As the father of 4 girls I find your attempt at comedy or seriousness should get a couple of years in prison, you'd kill for a lead pipe then.


Afraid I agree with the OP. Not single, but addicted to porn...

//...of my wife
//Real men don't use porn
//Real men make their own!
 
2008-09-12 06:07:14 PM
NuttierThanEver: No Hero tag? If I find a naked stranger in my house without my or my wifes permission I should be well within my rights to beat the hell out of them.

That is mighty forgiving of you. Many men would still beat the hell out of a naked guy in there house if that person had their wifes permission. Still, I suppose some men would sooner beat the hell out of the wife in that instance, given the likely assumptions in such a situation.

END COMMUNIATION
 
2008-09-12 06:07:17 PM
LiveStalk
Every day for a year eh? Earn your redwings?

Had to look that one up.
Okay, not exactly EVERY day.

And yes, I did indeed earn my redwings.

/when you're young you'll try anything 1-200 times :)
 
2008-09-12 06:08:41 PM
kactuspatch: GT_bike: kactuspatch: I have bad news for all of you fark dads. If you have daughters, and they're 15 or older, they're getting more wang than a Chinatown parade. And as long as they don't get pregnant or diseased: GOOD FOR THEM.

spoken as though you spend too much time with said 15 year-olds, have seat.

Flawless logic. Sounds like someone has a daughter who likes the cock and is just realizing he's powerless. Uh oh!


sounds like you need one of her post pizza or yams diapers in the face, powerless to the yack reflex...your point?
 
2008-09-12 06:09:48 PM
ha-ha-guy

My personal policy is that if my daughters bring home boys who seem to be decent human beings I'll turn my head to a degree.

If they bring home douchebags, out comes the lead pipe.


Unfortunately there are a lot of teen boy douchebags quite adept at appearing to be decent human beings. Ultimately all we can do is hope we raised our kids with good judgment...
 
2008-09-12 06:10:51 PM
Bhopper: ha-ha-guy

My personal policy is that if my daughters bring home boys who seem to be decent human beings I'll turn my head to a degree.

If they bring home douchebags, out comes the lead pipe.

Unfortunately there are a lot of teen boy douchebags quite adept at appearing to be decent human beings. Ultimately all we can do is hope we raised our kids with good judgment...


Eddie Haskell is that you?
 
2008-09-12 06:12:47 PM
RetiredTroll:
It's not called parenting, its called hypocrisy. If you were able to have a mutually enjoyable experience of oral sex with your girlfriend when you were a teen, why is it wrong for your children to do the same?


Seems you're not retired.
either that or ignorant.
 
2008-09-12 06:15:12 PM
GT_bike: kactuspatch: GT_bike: kactuspatch: I have bad news for all of you fark dads. If you have daughters, and they're 15 or older, they're getting more wang than a Chinatown parade. And as long as they don't get pregnant or diseased: GOOD FOR THEM.

spoken as though you spend too much time with said 15 year-olds, have seat.

Flawless logic. Sounds like someone has a daughter who likes the cock and is just realizing he's powerless. Uh oh!

sounds like you need one of her post pizza or yams diapers in the face, powerless to the yack reflex...your point?


I think my point was clear, but you just implied that you have a sexually active daughter still in diapers. And that sir, is disgusting. Questionable parenting, I might add.
 
2008-09-12 06:16:16 PM

DELTONA -- A Deltona father ended up in jail today after beating his daughter's teenage boyfriend who he caught naked in the girl's bedroom, sheriff's officials said.

Colon Raul Colon, 45, didn't even know his daughter had a boyfriend -- or that the youngster had been sneaking into the home for more than a year. So when he heard noises coming from his daughter's room this morning and saw a stranger naked, standing on the girl's bed, he swung a metal pipe he had taken from the garage, hitting the 15-year-old, a sheriff's report said.

Colon was charged with aggravated battery on a child but was out of jail this afternoon on $10,000 bail, a booking officer said. No one picked up the phone at Colon's residence today.

According to the report, Colon heard the noise in his daughter's room when he got up at 4 a.m. to let his dog out, as he does every morning.

Colon told deputies he chased Lucas Contreres through the kitchen, living room and through the front door and out into the street and called 9-1-1.

Colon's daughter later told deputies that she had been seeing Contreres for 18 months but did not tell her father about the relationship. Contreres had sneaked in thorough a bedroom window at 3 a.m. this morning to have sex with her, the 15-year-old girl told deputies.

Conteres was found at Florida Hospital Fish Memorial in Orange City where he got staples to close cuts on his head. His injuries were not life threatening, deputies said.

Contreres told deputies a similar account to Colon's. He said Colon came into the room and started swinging at him with the metal pipe. He jumped out of the bed and began running through the home to get away from Colon. Once outside, he jumped on his bike and went home. His sister later took him to the hospital, deputies said.

Although Contreres' father said he wasn't sure if he wanted to press charges, deputies took Colon to jail anyway.


Soo, according to him, he thought there was intruder in his daughter's bedroom at 4:45 in the morning, yet instead of busting down the door immediately to protect his daughter who he thinks is in danger, he goes out to the garage and gets a pipe to chase the 'intruder' through most every room in the home before he runs out the front door.

If he actually thought there was an intruder in his teenage daughter's bedroom, I would imagine that the father wouldn't be wasting any time to help her.

He knew what was going on and wanted to teach the 'punk' a lesson.
 
2008-09-12 06:16:27 PM
it was this man's home, this man's room (a teenager doesn't own the room, just occupies it), this man's bed that this naked dude was sitting on more than likely after having had sex with this man's daughter. it all amounts to a high level of disrespect all around.

it doesn't matter to me WHY the daughter didn't bring this guy home. maybe her dad is strict and doesn't think she should be dating, or maybe this guy was just a general scumbag (which it appears might be the case) either way he's the dad, and this is blatant disrespect and the kid deserved what he got.

i personally wouldn't have gone for a pipe, but it seems he was holding it thinking there was an intruder and just got mad. i'd slap silly any newd teenager in my teenager's room without my knowledge, boy or girl.
 
2008-09-12 06:16:27 PM
War_Kittens:
Next time you want to let a boy into your pants who just wants your body (which at that age it's the only thing), go to his house. Why? Because if you get caught at his house by his dad, you'll get a much better response.


Although you may have to put out for dear old Dad as well.
 
2008-09-12 06:18:30 PM
cowgirl toffee: Mister_man: cowgirl toffee:
If she really wanted to get back at her dad, this would be her next boyfriend.

Once you pipe man you never go back

/somebody get her some KY.

Is this what you ment?



Agreed. She'll need KY prior to any dates in daddy's house.


That's Muffler Man holding a hot dog.
I think daddy will probably 'get off', just say he thought it was an intruder and stopped before he finished the little cockboy off.

Daughter will have some 'splainin to do.
And locks on windows and such.

/and an involuntary IUD placement.
//kids will be kids. And we all like to fark.
 
2008-09-12 06:18:39 PM
kactuspatch: GT_bike: kactuspatch: GT_bike: kactuspatch: I have bad news for all of you fark dads. If you have daughters, and they're 15 or older, they're getting more wang than a Chinatown parade. And as long as they don't get pregnant or diseased: GOOD FOR THEM.

spoken as though you spend too much time with said 15 year-olds, have seat.

Flawless logic. Sounds like someone has a daughter who likes the cock and is just realizing he's powerless. Uh oh!

sounds like you need one of her post pizza or yams diapers in the face, powerless to the yack reflex...your point?

I think my point was clear, but you just implied that you have a sexually active daughter still in diapers. And that sir, is disgusting. Questionable parenting, I might add.


oh, I see like a troll?
 
2008-09-12 06:24:43 PM
Belltower: RetiredTroll: Your daughters are women. They have vaginas. They will learn what they are for. Get over yourself. Any father who feels the need to control his daughter's sex life has serious issues.


At a certain age (under 18, even), if she comes to me about birth control, I'd rather her be on it and doin' it with my knowledge, than doing it without birth control behind my back.




Does she know this?
 
2008-09-12 06:25:10 PM
Zaphodius: trueaustinite: Zaphodius: I would have shot him personally..

[MENTAL IMAGE]

Fat balding guy sitting at his computer in his underwear. Orange Cheetos crust on his briefs. Head tilted slightly back, eyes shut, saying "FLAH FLAH FLAH

Not particularly a tough guy, but yes I would without hesitation.

she's 15... it's rape


Then she raped her boyfriend as well. He was also 15.

Also, did you ever have sex with someone who was under the age of consent?

/you filthy rapist.
 
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