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(Politico)   Dem Senate candidate unhappy about ad depicting him as an aging hippy in a smoke-filled VW van. "It could be the engine overheating," said the ad's writer   (politico.com) divider line 133
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2008-09-12 10:47:54 AM  
"The ad raises serious questions about Mr. Udall's judgment and record on matters of national security, and we're frankly surprised that his singular focus seems to be on the metaphor we chose to employ," was all Freedom's Watch spokesman Ed Patru would say.

I know it's a different situation, but the same response could be given to those who got frothy over Obama's lipstick metaphor.
 
2008-09-12 11:06:25 AM  
Its not a fair characterization...
but a department of peace?! that is stupid. I thought homeland security was dumb, but a DoP would be really stupid.
 
2008-09-12 11:14:50 AM  
RobsterCraw: Its not a fair characterization...
but a department of peace?! that is stupid. I thought homeland security was dumb, but a DoP would be really stupid.


Sounds like you have a problem with rule by slogan ;-)
 
2008-09-12 11:28:33 AM  
My brother had a VW van back in high school, and quite frankly, the engine overheating theory is quite plausible. That thing drank motor oil like it was British.
 
2008-09-12 11:32:39 AM  
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.
Matthew 5:9

Why does Freedom's Watch hate Jesus?
 
2008-09-12 11:54:43 AM  
Because we all know those hippies were just a bunch of troublemakers who expected the government to start running the country by the letter of the Constitution instead of by corporate edict.
 
2008-09-12 12:10:35 PM  
LOL hippies, peace is for pussies.

Except for Jesus, that guy was alright.
 
2008-09-12 12:14:42 PM  
Jebus,

VW's dont let off steam when they overheat. They are AIR COOLED!

stupid writers need to be flogged.
 
2008-09-12 12:27:54 PM  
Since when is the Mystery Machine a VW?
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2008-09-12 01:36:48 PM  
ksdanj: Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God. Matthew 5:9
Why does Freedom's Watch hate Jesus?


I never thought I'd say "this" to a Bible quote, but:
This.


/because those cheese maker's don't get much
 
2008-09-12 02:14:22 PM  
Ad writers tend to lie.
 
2008-09-12 02:14:48 PM  
Those dudes are FAGS!!!
 
2008-09-12 02:15:24 PM  
dude, that bag is just oregano....
 
2008-09-12 02:16:05 PM  
WalkingCarpet: LOL hippies, peace is for pussies.

Except for Jesus, that guy was alright.


Jesus was just alright.
 
2008-09-12 02:16:31 PM  
I know it's a different situation, but the same response could be given to those who got frothy over Obama's lipstick metaphor.

Except that Obama was using a fairly well known expression, rather than a potentially libelous insinuation.
 
2008-09-12 02:16:59 PM  
Nabb1: My brother had a VW van back in high school, and quite frankly, the engine overheating theory is quite plausible. That thing drank motor oil like it was British.

The British drink motor oil?
 
2008-09-12 02:17:09 PM  
rostit: Jebus,

VW's dont let off steam when they overheat. They are AIR COOLED!

stupid writers need to be flogged.


Yeah, but they smoke like hell when a heat exchanger is cracked and you drop a valve seat or if you've got a leaky pushrod tube over the manifold.

/valve seats and pushrod tubes are NEVER a problem in an air cooled VW...
 
2008-09-12 02:17:39 PM  
Just saw this ad this morning before going to work, and the first thing I thought was "oooh, that's low."
 
2008-09-12 02:18:01 PM  
" 'Further, there is nothing in the Department of Peace legislation that authorizes the purchase of a van or that says one of the activities of the Department will be smoking marijuana in a smoke filled van.' "

that political commercial wasn't accurate at all!
 
2008-09-12 02:18:29 PM  
Yeah, well as long as they weren't black & white pictures. Because you can just tell them dang grey-scale candidates are up to no good.
No good at all.
 
2008-09-12 02:19:21 PM  
rostit: VW's dont let off steam when they overheat. They are AIR COOLED!/i>

True that, but if there is a short at the ignition switch you can fry your wiring harness all the way from the dash back to the solenoid, yeilding much smoke in the interior of the bus.

/yes it happened to me
//'71 westy
 
2008-09-12 02:20:01 PM  
I thought the Bush administration already brought us a Ministry of Peace (pops)
 
2008-09-12 02:20:26 PM  
Anybody who would watch that ad and give it a single shred of credibility is a complete farking idiot.
 
2008-09-12 02:20:39 PM  
mtsofthemoon: rostit: VW's dont let off steam when they overheat. They are AIR COOLED!/i>

True that, but if there is a short at the ignition switch you can fry your wiring harness all the way from the dash back to the solenoid, yeilding much smoke in the interior of the bus.

/yes it happened to me
//'71 westy


woah, html fail
 
2008-09-12 02:21:02 PM  
So he wont smoke dope then?

Or he pretends he wont?
 
2008-09-12 02:21:15 PM  
Oh come on. I've lived in the DC area for a while now, and all those "Department of Peace" and anti-war types are pot-smoking hippies for the most part.

To borrow from that timeless proverb, "Hippie, bathe thyself!"
 
2008-09-12 02:21:32 PM  
Why shouldn't we have a Ministry of Love...uhh, I mean Department of Peace?
 
2008-09-12 02:22:25 PM  
ksdanj: Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.
Matthew 5:9

Why does Freedom's Watch hate Jesus?


Yeah, but that was before he was crucified. You're living in a pre-33 AD world.
 
2008-09-12 02:23:02 PM  
My mom drove nothing but VDub buses from 1961 until my mom died in 1992; I had several. Until the engine seals go bad from age, they don't use much oil. That happens around 80k in the 61's, 100 k in the 68-on's.

The real problem with the 68-ons is from corrosion in the electrical yoke, which makes the computer freak out and no mechanic around seems to be able to solve the problem.

They rarely overheat - unless you are a dolt who relies on idiot lights instead of checking the oil, which in an oil/air-cooled engine is the thing you should be doing regularly and add a half quart when it gets that low.

The best one I ever had was a 66 bus with 67 bug engine in it. Drove it out west and lived in the national forests along the way for 6 months back in 1975. Change the oil every 1,500, adjust the valves every 3,000 or so and nothing much else to do.
 
2008-09-12 02:23:13 PM  
i smoke lots of weed in a van so i'm really getting a... wait, what was i saying?
 
2008-09-12 02:23:50 PM  
I would think that ad would get him votes in boulder what is he complaining about.
 
2008-09-12 02:24:14 PM  
anyone have a link to the video?
 
2008-09-12 02:24:43 PM  
"Further, there is nothing in the Department of Peace legislation that authorizes the purchase of a van or that says one of the activities of the Department will be smoking marijuana in a smoke filled van."


Well, if they won't be smoking, they must be watching football because those are the only two things I can think of that'll bring men together in relative peace.
 
2008-09-12 02:24:45 PM  
sweet jesus I farking hate republicans.
 
2008-09-12 02:25:54 PM  
Considering that the "Old hippies" are now part of the largest voting demographic, I don't think I would want to dis the VW van
 
2008-09-12 02:26:01 PM  
RobsterCraw: I thought homeland security was dumb, but a DoP would be really stupid.

Yeah well, that's just, ya know, like, your opinion, man.
 
2008-09-12 02:26:08 PM  
The sick part is that if he had proposed a "Department of War", it would have been more acceptable to the people who are clowning this idea.
 
2008-09-12 02:27:09 PM  
Why is this guy saying screw you to his hippy constituency? It seems like a trap to make him alienate his base in an attempt to shore up votes of people who would not vote democrat anyways. Anyone who would not vote for someone because they are being linked to hippys are republicans anyways, just like anybody who would vote against Obama because he is black would vote Republican anyways.
 
2008-09-12 02:27:40 PM  
shirtsbyeric: WalkingCarpet: LOL hippies, peace is for pussies.

Except for Jesus, that guy was alright.

Jesus was just alright.


..but nothing exceptional.

/yes, i know that stoopid song
 
2008-09-12 02:27:57 PM  
Udall should do a commercial about Schaffer.

"Don't flush away your vote." Have Schaffer in a DIA bathroom tapping his toes. This just means he is full of it.


/Not far from the truth either way
 
2008-09-12 02:29:22 PM  
pffft...never mind, found it.
 
2008-09-12 02:30:18 PM  
JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: Why is this guy saying screw you to his hippy constituency? It seems like a trap to make him alienate his base in an attempt to shore up votes of people who would not vote democrat anyways. Anyone who would not vote for someone because they are being linked to hippys are republicans anyways, just like anybody who would vote against Obama because he is black would vote Republican anyways.

not all republicans hate obama's blackness.

some hate his big teeth.

when is the last time we had a republican president with big teeth?

thats right, never.
 
2008-09-12 02:32:42 PM  
Diogenes: "The ad raises serious questions about Mr. Udall's judgment and record on matters of national security, and we're frankly surprised that his singular focus seems to be on the metaphor we chose to employ," was all Freedom's Watch spokesman Ed Patru would say.

I know it's a different situation, but the same response could be given to those who got frothy over Obama's lipstick metaphor.


i'd rather get frothy over palin's lipstick
 
2008-09-12 02:34:35 PM  
DROxINxTHExWIND: The sick part is that if he had proposed a "Department of War", it would have been more acceptable to the people who are clowning this idea.

Ummm, the "Department of Defense" actually WAS called the War Department till about '49.

That said, changing it again to the "Department of Peace" is Orwellian Hippy-Speak we could do just as well without. You want to support hippy-dippy ideas like this - don't be shocked, SHOCKED to find people making fun of you.
 
2008-09-12 02:35:12 PM  
The originnal political ad (pops) is pretty funny.
 
2008-09-12 02:35:51 PM  
Udall's in trouble. A month ago it looked like a cakewalk, but now he's tied with Schaffer. Many reasons are given for this, but the real reason is the horribly-timed Democratic position on energy and COGCC "reforms."

Basically, Colorado Democrats thought this would be a swell year to run on a platform of imposing new taxes on oil and gas production, instituting draconian environmental restrictions on exploration and production, and vowing to combat the idea of opening up more of the outer continental shelf to exploration.

Never mind that gasoline and natural gas have gone through the roof and that the oil and gas industry makes up over 20% of Colorado's economy. And Udall's panicky flip-flopping on the issue has just made him look like an unprincipled stooge.

Durrrr.

It wouldn't be surprising if he loses. That McCain is surging in Colorado polls also indicates that Obama's coattails will probably be non-existant. Oops.
 
2008-09-12 02:37:52 PM  
The Dept. of Defense should got back to the Dept. of War.

Why do we need an army if we're preparing for PEACE!
 
2008-09-12 02:37:54 PM  
bmasso: DROxINxTHExWIND: The sick part is that if he had proposed a "Department of War", it would have been more acceptable to the people who are clowning this idea.

Ummm, the "Department of Defense" actually WAS called the War Department till about '49.

That said, changing it again to the "Department of Peace" is Orwellian Hippy-Speak we could do just as well without. You want to support hippy-dippy ideas like this - don't be shocked, SHOCKED to find people making fun of you.

==========================

Yeah, I know. "Peace" is a "hippy" word...unless you want to use it to convince people that it is the reason that you're sending their children to die.
 
2008-09-12 02:38:01 PM  
bmasso: DROxINxTHExWIND: The sick part is that if he had proposed a "Department of War", it would have been more acceptable to the people who are clowning this idea.

Ummm, the "Department of Defense" actually WAS called the War Department till about '49.

That said, changing it again to the "Department of Peace" is Orwellian Hippy-Speak we could do just as well without. You want to support hippy-dippy ideas like this - don't be shocked, SHOCKED to find people making fun of you.


patriot act, now that's a cool name.
 
2008-09-12 02:39:32 PM  
Passive Aggressive Larry: Why shouldn't we have a Ministry of Love...uhh, I mean Department of Peace?

How about a Department of Understanding?

Why are you laughing?

What's so funny?
 
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