Let's just hope they remember to turn off the camera during rest stops.

Clearly.

I mean... how clear can they get?

Hmmm... If I was a cop, I'd probably think this was a good idea.

Between crooks who'll swear on a stack of Bibles that the cop ate their first-born, a general public that knows nothing, sees nothing, etc. and an army of lawyers who can PROVE the cop is crooked, it's got to be one of the toughest jobs out there.

torch: As long as the playing field is level and I can video/audio record anything in front of me too, then OK. Otherwise blow me.

Yup, what you said.

There seems to be a bunch of Farkers who hate the cops. I don't know if it's justified - maybe yes, maybe no - but I defy any of them to say being a decent cop is an easy job.

dofus: There seems to be a bunch of Farkers who hate the cops. I don't know if it's justified - maybe yes, maybe no - but I defy any of them to say being a decent cop is an easy job.

Being a decent cop is the job. If someone is not doing their job they should be fired or they should start doing it.

dofus: but I defy any of them to say being a decent cop is an easy job.

It's not.
However, that isn't because everybody they come up to is a suspected cop killer (though you wouldn't know otherwise, with the way that some of them speak about and act around the public)... it's because MOST COPS are anything but decent. Even the "good guys" will lie in order to allow a fellow officer to keep his job. And when one doesn't... well, his life as an officer isn't very fun anymore.

If they're recording, at least in Arizona, you can too.

Godscrack: Hold still citizen.....

That camera provides a great angle when he's farking citizens in the ass.

And for the record, I believe the wrong people are becoming police officers.

Again, it isn't because the risk of being killed on the job by a psycho with a semi-automatic is so incredibly high, though again, many cops will try to tell you otherwise.

Since every time a cop shoots or is physically forceful with someone, they are doing something wrong, they are probably better off (in general) with a camera on their belt to prove they were justified in their actions, because most of the time they are. We just don't get those things reported on...You know, the same way the media tends to ignore planes that land without incident.

The thing to do is not to wear cameras to record them recording you. The next logical move is to create a technology that makes you not show up on their cameras. Or small electronic pop devices that kill all cameras within one block. Or other things I saw in Transmet years ago. A ray gun that makes dudes shiat themselves.

Ghastly: God damnit! Now every time I manage to get myself out of a traffic ticket I'm going to have to worry about pictures of my forehead showing up on some website.

Winnar!!

Hippie cop hater vs. fascist cop sympathizer thread.

God, how I love these.

dofus: There seems to be a bunch of Farkers who hate the cops. I don't know if it's justified - maybe yes, maybe no - but I defy any of them to say being a decent cop is an easy job.

I don't hate cops, but they've never been able to help me with anything. I was assaulted and defended myself, went to the police to report it, and was charged with breech of peace. Thanks cops. Another time some kid vandalized my truck. We knew who the kid was, went to his home and spoke with his parents who said the kid admitted doing it. When i called the police to make a complaint so i could take the family to small claims for the damages, the cop told me there was nothing he could do. I had no recourse without a police report. thanks cops.
The latest for was my car getting stolen. Three weeks later the cops send me a letter asking if my car was recovered? LOL unreal.

I'm sure police will have no problem with us videoing them as well.

/yeaaaaa

GaryPDX: I think I'll start wearing minicams too. Every citizen should so you have your side of the story to tell. Ain't technology grand?

Not dissapointed. Here here citizen!! Came to make sure that was said. THAT

The Anti-Laura: .. Or small electronic pop devices that kill all cameras within one block.

This would be illegal but I like the way you think. I'd love to wear personal technology that would interfere with their communications like that. Borderline warfare right there!

And when the cops go outside the law because their no-good, two-bit thugs, the "camera did appear to malfunction at some point during the contact".

FCUCK the cops.

Meh. Tell me when they start wearing cameras inside their pants.

Actually, nevermind. Don't tell me. I don't want to know.

OMFGZ, 1984, STICK A FORK IN AMERICA, WHAT HAPPENED TO U GUYZ, U USED TO BE COOL?!?!
/quick, someone post a screencap from V for Vendetta, it'll be all like cool and sh*t.

Are they doing it because it's in style at this time?

/time to throw out my onions

dofus: There seems to be a bunch of Farkers who hate the cops. I don't know if it's justified - maybe yes, maybe no - but I defy any of them to say being a decent cop is an easy job.

Being decent is not optional. If you can't be a decent cop, difficult or not, you should find another line of work.

When someone I cared about was killed while walking home by a drunk-driving cop a whole crowd of his fellow officers came to court to tell anyone who would listen, including the jury, how hard it is to be a cop and how easy it is to fall into alcoholism. The whole trial became something it shouldn't have.

The guy walked with time served and probation.

Not one cop ever said a word except in defense of the one who drove drunk and killed a boy. Their loyalty to each other came WAY ahead of "to protect and serve."

I have no sympathy. None. for the crybaby attitude that it is hard to be a cop and that people don't trust them.

If police are required to wear these recorders, and the absence of video is a significant reason to exonerate innocent people, I'm A-OK with this.

"Gaps" in an officer's video should be considered suspect.

Well this will certainly catch anyone trying to give them an illegal blow job. How bout we just embed one in their foreheads?

stirfrybry When your car was stolen you should have asked them if they 'had any leads'.

You know how the cops freak out and go balls to the wall when "one of their own" is involved in a shooting, crash, fight, etc.? Well, when they react that energetically to EVERY incident, then I might respect them. Until then, meh.

idiots

The police need to be in charge of every situation.

If they were nice people then no one would respect them and they wouldn't be able to do their job.

Being in control requires a strong aggressive personality. The kind of person who makes a good cop is exactly the sort of obnoxious jerk you don't want having that kind of power.

Having said that, the thing that irks me most about cops...

When I get pulled over for speeding and before I get my ticket he lectures me for three minutes on how cars can kill people. Then after his lecture, he hands me the ticket with the full amount.

Either give me the farking ticket and fark off, or give me your lecture and lower the fine.

If I want a lesson in morality, I'll seek the advice of someone who didn't get their job by reciting the alphabet and doing 10 push-ups.

I'm all in favour of police having cameras on 24/7. That way there's a record of what's happening. It (legally) protects both the officer and the citizenry.

I'd also want a bit of leniency for the officer so he doesn't get disciplined for simply being a dick.

This is the kind of stuff that makes me wish for an air-burst nuke right over Kansas. One big EMP to wipe out all our shiat.

/but then I wouldn't have Fark

I'd also want a bit of leniency for the officer so he doesn't get disciplined for simply being a dick.

Interesting. I'm the opposite. I would would want a zero tolerance policy where they get disciplined, fired, or or even criminally charged for being a dick, depending on the degree of abuse of authority. I would want a citizen's review board in charge of making the decision between the three options. I would want every single minute of footage to be public record and available for free on the internet unless otherwise directed by a judge (to protect minors, etc.)

torch: As long as the playing field is level and I can video/audio record anything in front of me too, then OK. Otherwise blow me.

You can legally photograph or film anything in a public location, at least in the US.

Right now this is still in the "great tool for law enforcement" stage. Wait till they're required to wear them and they can't turn them off whenever they want. Then this will be another "officer safety issue".

puffy999: being killed on the job by a psycho with a semi-automatic

semi-automatic guns only fire one bullet for every pull of the trigger, just like a revolver or grandpappy's shotgun

Bob N Freely
You can legally photograph or film anything in a public location, at least in the US.

I believe it is now illegal to film a police officer, or police equipment under ANY circumstances. Unless i am mistaken, the law passed around 2003.

Any Legal farkers confirm or deny?

/gotta love the US.
//Getting my ticket outta here

halfjack: I believe it is now illegal to film a police officer, or police equipment under ANY circumstances. Unless i am mistaken, the law passed around 2003.

I don't know, but I do know it doesn't really matter. A friend of mine was jailed for 4 days for it. He was never charged with a crime.

I think it's a great idea. Only, it ought to be like the car cams in Nashville - you can't erase it, you can't cut it off, it downloads itself when you come back to the precinct whether you want it to or not, and the data is stored in more than one place so it can't "inexplicably vanish".

halfjack: I believe it is now illegal to film a police officer, or police equipment under ANY circumstances. Unless i am mistaken, the law passed around 2003.

That would be a state-by-state thing.

I believe in Arizona (and many other states) you're good as long as at least one of you knows there is a recording device.

After all of the donuts the only thing they are going to get pictures of are the ground. Or in some cases the dunlap condition of the officers belly?

http://Jeffrey.Rodriguez/

That would be a state-by-state thing.


Where would i find a map of the legality of recording police?

Digital Communist: The police need to be in charge of every situation.

If they were nice people then no one would respect them and they wouldn't be able to do their job.

Being in control requires a strong aggressive personality. The kind of person who makes a good cop is exactly the sort of obnoxious jerk you don't want having that kind of power.



If I want a lesson in morality, I'll seek the advice of someone who didn't get their job by reciting the alphabet and doing 10 push-ups.

I'm not an obnoxious jerk, but I was a cop and you are right.
I went to work and honed my acting skills, behaving like I was in charge of a scene and getting it done.
Other cops didn't know they were suppposed to obey that whole "minimum amount of force thingy" and were roid heads.
I lasted 4 years and got out with my life.
There were times when the training was the tool, and force was used. I used it correctly, and never to excess.
Even when I was busting dirty cops.