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(Atlanta Journal Constitution)   Atlanta adds "donation meters" in an attempt to curb aggressive beggers. Now that's some change to believe in   (ajc.com) divider line 104
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2008-09-10 07:35:02 PM
We already have those in Athens. Actually, come to think of it, the panhandling got to the point where they installed those meters after Atlanta 'banned' panhandling (read: arrest whoever they catch). They don't even begin to ameliorate the problem.
 
2008-09-10 07:48:26 PM
melopene: They don't even begin to ameliorate the problem.

Sounds like a logistical nightmare. I mean, how do you implement them?
 
2008-09-10 07:51:27 PM
From the headline I wasn't sure if the article was about the Atlanta City Council or actual bums.
 
2008-09-10 08:26:10 PM
Isn't it beggars?
 
2008-09-10 08:36:20 PM
What about passive-aggressive beggars?

- Wishlist in profile.
P.S. I helped you out when you were down, anonymously.
 
2008-09-10 09:20:27 PM
nekom: Sounds like a logistical nightmare. I mean, how do you implement them?

They have a couple of meters downtown that say 'Donate here instead of giving to panhandlers.'

The panhandlers hang out nearby during the day, and wander up and down the street irritating people smoking in front of bars for change, smokes, free drinks, etc. It's really irritating.
 
2008-09-10 11:09:27 PM
The homeless make exellent soylent orange. That's what you get when they run out of the green (not as good, may cause riots).
 
2008-09-10 11:21:51 PM
melopene: nekom: Sounds like a logistical nightmare. I mean, how do you implement them?

They have a couple of meters downtown that say 'Donate here instead of giving to panhandlers.'

The panhandlers hang out nearby during the day, and wander up and down the street irritating people smoking in front of bars for change, smokes, free drinks, etc. It's really irritating.


I got asked for change while I was sitting on my own front porch here in Athens the other day.
 
2008-09-10 11:23:02 PM
Gee.
 
2008-09-10 11:23:33 PM
I only give to entertaining hobos.
 
2008-09-10 11:23:41 PM
Next time some dirtbag approaches you asking for you to chip in toward "something to eat" - give him something to eat.

8 out of 10 will turn you down. Some will actually get nasty.
 
2008-09-10 11:23:55 PM
I came in here for the south park pictures.

Come on man...can you help me out?
 
2008-09-10 11:23:57 PM
These bums should just get a Fark account and a sick child.
 
2008-09-10 11:25:09 PM
Christ sake, you people have such robust and forward thinking solutions to social problems.

America: Doing everything the hard way.
 
2008-09-10 11:25:48 PM
So, has anyone thought of the obvious? It costs 40k to implement these, so they will have to get over that in donations before it "makes a profit" (above just handing the 40k to the beggers) not to mention maintenance fees, and labor to collect and process the money...

does this program make any sense at all? Will it bring in enough revenue to justify it's existence?
 
2008-09-10 11:26:01 PM
I'd rather have domination meters. Or else I'll have to stand in front of your house wearing my Gimp outfit, looking for a new mistress.
 
2008-09-10 11:26:24 PM
People beg for change to buy alcohol and drugs. Those meters aren't gonna go buy malt liquor so they are not gonna curb anything.
 
2008-09-10 11:26:26 PM
We need some aggressive spelling correction in this headline
 
2008-09-10 11:29:15 PM
Those farkers are awful in Atlanta. I've never seen such aggressive panhandling.

I went to a Braves games with some friends and locked my keys in the car. While we were waiting for the parking lot patrol to come by, some guy in an orange safety vest comes along and offers to help. He fiddles with the door for a few minutes and then turns to us and asks for change. Farking hell.
 
2008-09-10 11:29:46 PM
Gave a homeless guy in downtown Atl $5 to watch my truck while I walked out a jobsite. Came back to the truck to get something. He & a buddy of his were eating breakfast from the money I gave him while guarding my truck.
 
2008-09-10 11:30:52 PM
Vancouver installed these a few years ago. They still haven't covered their costs, and there are more panhandlers than ever.

/of course, closing all the mental institutions and turfing the residents out didn't affect anything
//but but but the government bean-counter said they were employable
 
2008-09-10 11:31:37 PM
melopene: nekom: Sounds like a logistical nightmare. I mean, how do you implement them?

They have a couple of meters downtown that say 'Donate here instead of giving to panhandlers.'

The panhandlers hang out nearby during the day, and wander up and down the street irritating people smoking in front of bars for change, smokes, free drinks, etc. It's really irritating.


They have a few of those meters (they call 'em "parc-o-dons" up here cuz we're cooky that way) in front of the office complex where I work. It sure doesn't keep the pan-handlers away.

I've always lived downtown though and I've always worked downtown, so I have pretty thick skin when it comes to beggers. I get asked roughly 5 times a day. I usually smile and say no, they say thanks anyways, and I tell them to have a nice day. I'll put a few bucks in the thingy once a week when I have some change and I buy the "l'itinerant" magazine from one guy for 2 dollars every week. It's a magazine with contributions made by homeless or otherwise disadvantaged people, and generally focused on social issues, but I just really can't afford to give two bucks to five people every day.

So, from the sound of it, I'd say even the homeless are just a little bit nicer in Quebec.
 
2008-09-10 11:32:29 PM
Beggars don't want to integrate into society.

If they did, they'd get fed at the church or shelter, get a job at McDonald's, enroll in the community college, get some student loan money, move into a decent place, focus on their studies, eventually transfer into the state college system, graduate, get on a career track, buy a home, get some decent health insurance and a retirement plan, etc...

...


But they ain't doing that. Instead...society's like a total bummer man, the man's keepin' a brother down, you talk like a fag, you shiat's all retarded, he he he he like, um you know what I mean...hey can I have some of your weed...
 
2008-09-10 11:32:47 PM
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2008-09-10 11:33:35 PM
i232.photobucket.com
 
2008-09-10 11:35:07 PM
drjekel_mrhyde

Sorry man...

(averts eyes, walks quickly away)
 
2008-09-10 11:36:50 PM
Unixfreak: So, has anyone thought of the obvious? It costs 40k to implement these, so they will have to get over that in donations before it "makes a profit" (above just handing the 40k to the beggers) not to mention maintenance fees, and labor to collect and process the money...

does this program make any sense at all? Will it bring in enough revenue to justify it's existence?


If the pan handlers actually stoped, they might...but the people that just want the money for themselves and don't really deserve it will stay...and the people most likely to give will probably still give it to the people that stand out rather than the machine.
 
2008-09-10 11:38:51 PM
studebaker hoch: drjekel_mrhyde

Sorry man...

(averts eyes, walks quickly away)


Now I have to go male whore myself out to some old horny men:-(
 
2008-09-10 11:43:44 PM
Old news. Sacramento has these downtown but all it did was attract more homeless.
 
2008-09-10 11:44:29 PM
Officials believe the homeless presence downtown has worsened because of a shaky economy and because social workers have been targeting those who were marginally homeless. This leaves the most hardened cases for last, she said.

Nah, the "hardened cases" are just the ones who just don't want to have to work to get off the streets.

I remember one guy that used to come into my er- he would always ask for things, but would never actually do anything to get off the streets. Once in a while he'd ask for help, but then he'd never follow up with it. A lot of times the social workers just don't really try if it's a repeat offender like that guy. I remember this guy b/c he was the spitting image of Charles Manson. (And b/c he hit on every female he saw, regardless of age or attractiveness.)
 
2008-09-10 11:44:53 PM
cyber_slacker: melopene: nekom: Sounds like a logistical nightmare. I mean, how do you implement them?

They have a couple of meters downtown that say 'Donate here instead of giving to panhandlers.'

The panhandlers hang out nearby during the day, and wander up and down the street irritating people smoking in front of bars for change, smokes, free drinks, etc. It's really irritating.

They have a few of those meters (they call 'em "parc-o-dons" up here cuz we're cooky that way) in front of the office complex where I work. It sure doesn't keep the pan-handlers away.

I've always lived downtown though and I've always worked downtown, so I have pretty thick skin when it comes to beggers. I get asked roughly 5 times a day. I usually smile and say no, they say thanks anyways, and I tell them to have a nice day. I'll put a few bucks in the thingy once a week when I have some change and I buy the "l'itinerant" magazine from one guy for 2 dollars every week. It's a magazine with contributions made by homeless or otherwise disadvantaged people, and generally focused on social issues, but I just really can't afford to give two bucks to five people every day.

So, from the sound of it, I'd say even the homeless are just a little bit nicer in Quebec.


I've got to agree, Montreal bums were relatively nice in my 5 years there. I'm sure you've run across the "It's for alcohol I swear" guy found on Crescent around closing time.
 
2008-09-10 11:46:06 PM
nekom: melopene: They don't even begin to ameliorate the problem.

Sounds like a logistical nightmare. I mean, how do you implement them?


This isn't the answer. We need legalized bum hunting people! Conservatives get to kill people and liberals won't mind it because they'll have a cleaner city. It's win/win I tell you!
 
2008-09-10 11:46:23 PM
Akron, OH requires panhandlers to register with the city and get a license. Seems to have helped. Just arrest any that don't have a license.

Or maybe, you know, we could help them find the people they need to get them back on their feet. But what do I know?
 
2008-09-10 11:46:33 PM
We have these in the CWE in St. Louis. I normally just ignore the bums (I only carry credit cards, no cash) and it doesn't bother me. I am heavily annoyed when they hang out on my building's property and harass you... since the change meters have gone in, they've moved somewhere else.

/not a troll
//just doesn't like being harassed for change I don't have on me
 
2008-09-10 11:48:20 PM
PackRat24: Akron, OH requires panhandlers to register with the city and get a license. Seems to have helped. Just arrest any that don't have a license.

Or maybe, you know, we could help them find the people they need to get them back on their feet. But what do I know?


I live near a homeless shelter. The sad truth is that you're gonna have to be able to cure addiction and mental illness to do this. Almost all of them are harmless to others but a menace to themselves.
 
2008-09-10 11:48:44 PM
"RRRGGRR? RRRHH RGGRRH! RGRRGGRRR..."
-- Clyde Street Liquor Store Hobo Pirate
 
2008-09-10 11:49:04 PM
APD Zone 5... that's Hurt Park near Georgia State Univ. if I remember correctly. Hellhole of a place. Bums everywhere.
 
2008-09-10 11:49:53 PM
I used to deal with really aggressive beggars downtown in a city where I lived. Some of them get really nasty, follow and harass you, etc. If you offer them food rather than cash (which I have done before), they are downright abusive. The sad truth is that they don't want food, they want money for crack and meth.

After a while they learned to leave me alone except to yell something nasty after me. One of them tried the same "my driver's license got destroyed and I need money to get a new one" scam on me 4 times before I told him "look, it didn't work the first 4 times, why is it going to work this time?" He called me a biatch and left me alone after that.

There was one exception, an old guy who used to hang out in a ditch near a grocery store. I used to stop and give him some beer or chocolate or part of a sandwich or something. The guy didn't actively panhandle, he seemed to mostly want to be left alone in his ditch. I suppose stopping to hang out with a homeless guy and a bunch of raccoons in a ditch is weird at best and incredibly stupid at worst, but I was pretty young and stupid and he was more pleasant and interesting than a lot of the other people available to hang out with.

One day, he just disappeared. A few weeks later, I found out from asking around and stuff that he was apparently an old veteran who had some sort of terminal illness. I think it was stomach cancer. Didn't have any family. He'd never told me he was dying. I felt pretty horrible about it.
 
2008-09-10 11:50:34 PM
Sounds like something to just get stolen and replaced a bunch.


/used to work in Little Five Points where the bums would cuss at me and crap on my shops' doorstep if I offered them food.
//glad I don't work/live/go there anymore.
 
2008-09-10 11:53:04 PM
The Power of Positive Drinking: We have these in the CWE in St. Louis. I normally just ignore the bums (I only carry credit cards, no cash) and it doesn't bother me. I am heavily annoyed when they hang out on my building's property and harass you... since the change meters have gone in, they've moved somewhere else.

/not a troll
//just doesn't like being harassed for change I don't have on me


I have two jobs, both in the CWE. Since the meters have been installed, the amount of panhandling has dropped dramatically. It also helps that they have made it illegal to panhandle at night, around ATM's, and near sidewalk cafes.

Seriously, that shiat was getting way out of hand. The one time I gave a guy a dollar to supposedly get to a shelter for the night, he told me it wasn't enough.
 
2008-09-10 11:54:48 PM
I make them do some work before I give them money....Make them earn that change.

Do the running man you homeless person.... kid n' play kickstep for this quarter! Do the robot!
 
2008-09-10 11:54:50 PM
Barring the severely mentally ill or retarded, most "homeless" people are out there because they prefer to be. They know there are options available and people to help them if they choose; however, they choose not to. Often, they are borderline paranoid schizophrenic and have had bad experiences with the old mental health system, or they're hardcore addicts or alkies and dislike having to stay sober to live in halfway houses.

Beat cops in LA's Skid Row have found these folks actually like it when the cops do their sweeps and kick the drug dealers, hookers and petty thieves out; and they don't mind if they have to pack up their tents and boxes during the day if they can sleep on the sidewalks at night if it means criminals leave them alone. Link (new window) But just try telling most people about that.
 
2008-09-10 11:56:46 PM
After leaving the bars one night, my friends and I were walking downtown when a bum came up and held out his hand. Without missing a beat, my rather inebriated friend gave the hobo a high five and just kept walking.
 
2008-09-10 11:57:32 PM
quahog_clam: Do the running man you homeless person.... kid n' play kickstep for this quarter! Do the robot!

How many copies of BumFights can I put you down for?
 
2008-09-10 11:58:21 PM
melopene: We already have those in Athens. Actually, come to think of it, the panhandling got to the point where they installed those meters after Atlanta 'banned' panhandling (read: arrest whoever they catch). They don't even begin to ameliorate the problem.

i162.photobucket.com
 
2008-09-11 12:00:21 AM
Work at a liquor store and you'll never give money to a bum again.
 
2008-09-11 12:01:12 AM
YoungSwedishBlonde

After leaving the bars one night, my friends and I were walking downtown when a bum came up and held out his hand. Without missing a beat, my rather inebriated friend gave the hobo a high five and just kept walking.

I would never, ever touch one of those dudes.
 
2008-09-11 12:01:26 AM
fark them all.

I'd rather have "pay cops to beat and harass the homeless into leaving me the fark alone when I walk down the street" meters.

I'd put money in THOSE every time I passed one.
 
2008-09-11 12:02:40 AM
The_Gallant_Gallstone: quahog_clam: Do the running man you homeless person.... kid n' play kickstep for this quarter! Do the robot!

How many copies of BumFights can I put you down for?


I earned my money. They should too.
 
2008-09-11 12:02:44 AM
One of my favorite things to do is ask people you know are panhandlers if they have any change. Really throws them for a loop, especially if you beat them to the punch.

"Do you have any change?"
"No, do you?"
"No, that's why I asked you for some."
 
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