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(The New York Times)   Knock, knock. Who's there? 9/11. 9/11 who? You said you'd never forget. Well, it's been seven years...   (nytimes.com) divider line 701
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2008-09-08 02:59:03 PM  
9-11 was an inside job, man!
 
2008-09-08 02:59:57 PM  
g8.undercoverhd.com
never forget
 
2008-09-08 03:00:05 PM  
FTFA:
The Ruins of the Future

Right after 9/11, when the event was deemed too raw for words, I kept coming across clairvoyant art. In October 2001, I went to the 92nd Street Y for the first time, to hear W. G. Sebald read. After the reading, I asked him to sign a copy of his novel "Austerlitz," which had come out that month. It contains the cool, startling observation that "somehow we know by instinct that outsize buildings cast the shadow of their own destruction before them, and are designed from the first with an eye to their later existence as ruins."


Somewhat unrelated, but this paragraph reminded me how in early 2002 or so, a friend and I got to talking about music, and I recommended that he pick up Angie Aparo's "The American" and he took a look at the cover art and got All Sorts Of Offended. So much for intelligent musical discourse, the album came out in 2000.
 
2008-09-08 03:00:10 PM  
TheNext: Actually I did.

did you serve in the same company as TheConvincingSavant?
 
2008-09-08 03:00:37 PM  
rubi_con_man: simian04: I told my girlfriend that this halloween she should dress as a building and I should dress as a plane. We'd walk down the street and I'd keep running into her. We laughed maniacally and then she told me I was evil. Guess it's kooky-spooks again this year.

/sigh

Love is having someone with whom to share your horribly tasteless jokes.


Hey, buster, Kooky-Spooks are NOT tasteless. Cheaper than your granny, maybe, but not tasteless.
 
2008-09-08 03:00:40 PM  
Asbury: rubi_con_man: Asbury: I'll never forget 9/11/08, it's the day they'll take this damn fracture-stabilizing pin out of my hand, which means I also finally get the cast taken off. BRING ON THE CELEBRATION!

... Maybe after you and your hand have 'make-up sex' you can come join us at the bar. Please wash up first.

Can I bring my husband?

/Asbury is a girl!


In that case , how YOU doin?
 
2008-09-08 03:00:44 PM  
Nestea Plunge: 7's the key number here. Think about it. 7-Elevens. 7 doors. 7, man, that's the number. 7 chipmunks twirlin' on a branch, eatin' lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch. You know that old children's tale from the sea. It's like you're dreamin' about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office.

My favorite part of that movie. +9/11
 
2008-09-08 03:01:09 PM  
Many of us, not then born, remember Pearl Harbor. I will remember 9/11 for the rest of my life.

That day was a wake up call to the West that some elements within Islam, not all of Islam by any means, but a large proportion, had declared war on our culture. This war continues. It is not something "made up" by the Republicans, it is not just a few wild eyed crazies in the caves of Afghanistan. No, the Islamic world resents us. They still recall the days of their glory. They still recall the time, centuries ago, when their armies marched in triumph across the face of the Mediterranean world, Byzantium, India, right up to the doors of Vienna. They recall when their physicians, philosophers, scientists, poets and artists were far beyond anything that barbaric Europe could muster. These days are long gone now. They chafe under the knowledge that even with their oil wealth, their culture has stagnated and fallen far behind the West. They, like children, blame us for their failure.

No amount of war, no amount of terror, no amount of savagery will restore their former glory. They must, if they are to survive, cast aside their 14th century shackles and bring Islam and the Islamic world into the community of nations.
 
2008-09-08 03:02:01 PM  
I was in an airport on 9/11!
 
2008-09-08 03:02:25 PM  
Just like every other "patriotic" event, just like every other "they were heros!" story, it'll fade in time. Usually once everyone involved has died. You don't see nobody bouncing up and down yelling "Remember the Revolution!" without that person being a complete nutzo. Here's the big clue people should pick up on...

No one really cares!
 
2008-09-08 03:02:35 PM  
9/11 = .8181818 Yeah, so??? This not only happened 7 years ago it also happened today and I'll bet it happens again tomorrow.

/do the math
 
2008-09-08 03:02:41 PM  
I'm torn. Part of me feels like that article was a poignant look at a national tragedy.

Another part of me feels like that whole thing was a poorly disguised plug for his book.

/I wrote a 9/11 comment without meaning to
 
2008-09-08 03:02:45 PM  
scapes23: JesterGirl: CastorTroy: Over Macho Grande?


I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande.

The survival of everyone on board this depends on just one thing: Finding someone on board who can not only fly this plane, but who didn't have fish for dinner.



There's no reason to be alarmed and we hope you enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?
 
2008-09-08 03:02:57 PM  
Nobody's forgotten, we're in a war we're blaming on it (even if you think we should be in Iraq, you have to admit [or don't, if you're stupid] it had nothing to do with 9/11, despite what Bush wanted us to believe).

Besides, I see signs everywhere, speeches and collector's coins.... I feel bad for the people who were actually involved. If you had PTSD from 9/11 you would have absolutely no way to escape the memories.
 
2008-09-08 03:03:06 PM  
jennyz: Ah, another 9/11 thread for cynical farkers to jerk themselves off.

Anyone happen to have a link to the original 9/11 threads?


You can search by date on the Fark headline search page.
 
2008-09-08 03:03:18 PM  
img389.imageshack.us
 
2008-09-08 03:03:57 PM  
I was starting my second year of teaching, and in my first week at a brand-new school. It's awfully hard to maintain a face of composure from 3rd period until 9th period in front of kids who need to know not everything is falling apart.

I can't ever forget.
 
2008-09-08 03:04:35 PM  
JesterGirl: scapes23: JesterGirl: CastorTroy: Over Macho Grande?


I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande.

The survival of everyone on board this depends on just one thing: Finding someone on board who can not only fly this plane, but who didn't have fish for dinner.


There's no reason to be alarmed and we hope you enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?


Hehe. That's a nestea plunge. Enjoy your drink until thenext.
 
2008-09-08 03:05:26 PM  
oh come on.. nobody posted this yet.


elgaroo.13th-floor.org
 
2008-09-08 03:05:33 PM  
priestrape: And I'm sure I got wrapped up in the national let's-stick-together-ism of the moment, too.

I still have a tupperware lid that I burned a red, a white, and a blue candle on and let all the colors mix together. I sat out on my front step with it burning wondering where my girlfriend was.

Turns out she was sleeping with somebody else.
 
2008-09-08 03:06:08 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Now I'm off to sacrifice a goat to Toby Keith in honor of 9/11.

/you can't do that
//toby keith doesn't want to be fed
///TOBY KEITH WANTS TO HUNT!
//// ...9/11!
 
2008-09-08 03:06:11 PM  
The terrorists have won.
 
2008-09-08 03:06:14 PM  
Why do people place so much emphasis and sentimentality upon recurring dates? Dates are just a function of the mechanics of our solar system and calendar. It's not like the terrorist attack on that day or any other isolated event is actually cyclical and needs to be remembered every year at a specific time or the universe will end. Why is 9/11/2008 a better day for reflection than any other day of the year, such as 9/12/2008? There's no actual relationship. Has it become so attenuated that you need to be reminded by a mnemonic device inherent in the calendar once each year? Why not remember it every day at 9:12AM if it's so blatantly arbitrary? You know, you don't have to obsess over something on a certain day just because it gets television coverage and everybody around you is doing the same thing. You have a choice to be an individual. Some societal ceremonies are good and some of them are just stupid. If you can detach yourself from the emotional aspects of the events, you may realize that this practice is one of them.
 
2008-09-08 03:06:37 PM  
My ex-boss's birthday: September 11.

I can feel for him: I share my birthday with a great historical unnatural disaster.
 
2008-09-08 03:06:58 PM  
I remember turning to the TV while on the computer and seeing the second plane hit. Three days prior to that I ran into a telephone pole at 57MPH and was still shaken up about it. I vaugely remember the whole day but I do remember the constant fire drills and the initial panic in the rural town I lived in afterwards.

SchlingFocker: I lol'd very loudly.
 
2008-09-08 03:07:07 PM  
jennyz: Anyone happen to have a link to the original 9/11 threads?

If you read through those threads, you'll see one of the comments that I'll "never forget." It must have been sometime in the afternoon after the talking heads starting speculating about who was responsible for the attacks. Someone posted this epic question:

"Who's this Bill Laden guy?"
 
2008-09-08 03:07:10 PM  
jaylectricity: priestrape: And I'm sure I got wrapped up in the national let's-stick-together-ism of the moment, too.

I still have a tupperware lid that I burned a red, a white, and a blue candle on and let all the colors mix together. I sat out on my front step with it burning wondering where my girlfriend was.

Turns out she was sleeping with somebody else.


Sorry about that, she said she was single.
 
2008-09-08 03:07:10 PM  
americandigest.org


Yeah. Funny. Assholes.
 
2008-09-08 03:07:14 PM  
rufus-t-firefly: Royale With Cheese: As someone who was around on 9/11, I'm getting a ki...

Yeah, that's nothing near as stressful as having a view of Logan Airport on the morning of 9/11/01.

That was really tough.

Anyone remember what Farker that was? That's up there with the Marine "Core" and wife-like typing.


I was in the thread where that originated, but the internet has all blended together over the years, and I have no idea where, when, or who.
 
2008-09-08 03:07:21 PM  
What this is to me (among other things) is proof of how long I lurked. My login says it was created July '03 - but I distinctly remember being on the fark 9/11 threads all freakin' day long.
 
2008-09-08 03:07:32 PM  
Nestea Plunge: TheNext: very hypocritical, just like both sides.....

Can't we all just agree that Saddam should still be torturing his people, plotting to use WMD (and using them too), invading other countries for profit, blatantly disregarding UN mandates, and letting his sons rape women for pleasure?

The UN did nothing about it. The EU didn't have enough backing to do anything about it (the second time).

America did.

I don't necessarily agree with the time at which we chose to unilaterally bring a brutal dictator down. I do believe it was the right thing to do, being the wealthiest nation in the world.

/back to your regularly schedulding bush bashing and talk of oil oil oil (which is also quite important, I might add)

Saddam did 9/11?


Sure.
He used those WMDs TheNext was talking about. Good thing we found and destroyed those, huh?
 
2008-09-08 03:07:59 PM  
jaylectricity: Turns out she was sleeping with somebody else.

damn

Oznog: Now I'm off to sacrifice a goat to Toby Keith in honor of 9/11.

/you can't do that
//toby keith doesn't want to be fed
///TOBY KEITH WANTS TO HUNT!
//// ...9/11!


Seth MacFarlane was supposed to be on one of those planes, but missed (or skipped) the flight
 
2008-09-08 03:08:12 PM  
TheNext: very hypocritical, just like both sides.....

Can't we all just agree that Saddam should still be torturing his people, plotting to use WMD (and using them too), invading other countries for profit, blatantly disregarding UN mandates, and letting his sons rape women for pleasure?

The UN did nothing about it. The EU didn't have enough backing to do anything about it (the second time).

America did.

I don't necessarily agree with the time at which we chose to unilaterally bring a brutal dictator down. I do believe it was the right thing to do, being the wealthiest nation in the world.

/back to your regularly schedulding bush bashing and talk of oil oil oil (which is also quite important, I might add)


Excellent point. So when are you going to invade Sudan and the Congo?
 
2008-09-08 03:08:53 PM  
Samsaran: Many of us, not then born, remember Pearl Harbor. I will remember 9/11 for the rest of my life.

That day was a wake up call to the West that some elements within Islam, not all of Islam by any means, but a large proportion, had declared war on our culture. This war continues. It is not something "made up" by the Republicans, it is not just a few wild eyed crazies in the caves of Afghanistan. No, the Islamic world resents us. They still recall the days of their glory. They still recall the time, centuries ago, when their armies marched in triumph across the face of the Mediterranean world, Byzantium, India, right up to the doors of Vienna. They recall when their physicians, philosophers, scientists, poets and artists were far beyond anything that barbaric Europe could muster. These days are long gone now. They chafe under the knowledge that even with their oil wealth, their culture has stagnated and fallen far behind the West. They, like children, blame us for their failure.

No amount of war, no amount of terror, no amount of savagery will restore their former glory. They must, if they are to survive, cast aside their 14th century shackles and bring Islam and the Islamic world into the community of nations.


Stop making sense, you. You'll attract the trolls!
 
2008-09-08 03:08:57 PM  
sorry we forgot. "survivor" was on.
 
2008-09-08 03:09:03 PM  
bikerdiva: It's my birthday.

Mine too!
 
2008-09-08 03:09:50 PM  
In 2005 I went to Vegas for some general drunken debauchery. It was weird to look at the pictures when I got back and notice the 9/11 date in the corner. It hadn't even crossed my mind the whole time I was there.
 
2008-09-08 03:09:53 PM  
Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: Why do people place so much emphasis and sentimentality upon recurring dates? Dates are just a function of the mechanics of our solar system and calendar. It's not like the terrorist attack on that day or any other isolated event is actually cyclical and needs to be remembered every year at a specific time or the universe will end. Why is 9/11/2008 a better day for reflection than any other day of the year, such as 9/12/2008? There's no actual relationship. Has it become so attenuated that you need to be reminded by a mnemonic device inherent in the calendar once each year? Why not remember it every day at 9:12AM if it's so blatantly arbitrary? You know, you don't have to obsess over something on a certain day just because it gets television coverage and everybody around you is doing the same thing. You have a choice to be an individual. Some societal ceremonies are good and some of them are just stupid. If you can detach yourself from the emotional aspects of the events, you may realize that this practice is one of them.

YEAH! AND WHAT ABOUT LEAP YEARS?!?!
 
2008-09-08 03:10:37 PM  
My wife made me watch United 93 the other night. It was unbearably cheesy. I cringed when both flight attendants all but basically turned to the camera and said, "We weren't even supposed to BE on this plane. She was going to call in sick, and I took somebody else's shift. My husband was really upset. Wouldn't it be ironic if the plane crashed and we both died?".

It's amazing how many people still think that 93 wasn't shot down my our military.
 
2008-09-08 03:10:47 PM  
9/5/1605
i283.photobucket.com

Remember,Remember
 
2008-09-08 03:11:04 PM  
I was flying to the UK on 9/11. Left on the 10th from the east coast. I made my connection but my luggage didn't. American airspace was closed down and my luggage spent the next 10 days in Philly. I spent it in the UK.

The guy that picked me up at the airport asked me if I heard about things back in the states and my response was pretty much WTF??? When I reached the office I was told that I have to call the wife first thing to let her know I was ok. It was a wierd conversation.

U.S. airspace opened and the flight back was rather empty. Got to Philly to check on my luggage and they informed me that they sent it to the UK that morning. Had them send it back. Bonus was that all my clothes were clean when I got them back. They never left the suitcase.
 
2008-09-08 03:11:11 PM  
A couple of mates and I once pulled the chains of some visiting colleagues from the US. We all pretended to not know about 9/11.
 
2008-09-08 03:11:12 PM  
Where were you
When they built that ladder to heaven?

Did it make you feel like crying
Or did you think it was kinda gay
 
2008-09-08 03:11:26 PM  
TheNext: You get my vote for troll twist of fark.

Huh?
You brought up Saddam. This is a 9/11 thread.
 
2008-09-08 03:11:39 PM  
nobodys_goose: Here's the big clue people should pick up on...

No one really cares!


Yes, we do.
 
2008-09-08 03:11:53 PM  
jaylectricity: YEAH! AND WHAT ABOUT LEAP YEARS?!?!

Leap years are there to account for differences between a calendar year and the actual rotation around...

wait a minute...
 
2008-09-08 03:12:01 PM  
Samsaran: Many of us, not then born, remember Pearl Harbor. I will remember 9/11 for the rest of my life.

That day was a wake up call to the West that some elements within Islam, not all of Islam by any means, but a large proportion, had declared war on our culture. This war continues. It is not something "made up" by the Republicans, it is not just a few wild eyed crazies in the caves of Afghanistan. No, the Islamic world resents us. They still recall the days of their glory. They still recall the time, centuries ago, when their armies marched in triumph across the face of the Mediterranean world, Byzantium, India, right up to the doors of Vienna. They recall when their physicians, philosophers, scientists, poets and artists were far beyond anything that barbaric Europe could muster. These days are long gone now. They chafe under the knowledge that even with their oil wealth, their culture has stagnated and fallen far behind the West. They, like children, blame us for their failure.

No amount of war, no amount of terror, no amount of savagery will restore their former glory. They must, if they are to survive, cast aside their 14th century shackles and bring Islam and the Islamic world into the community of nations.



So you're painting the whole Islamic culture with the colour of terrorists?
Can we paint the whole Western culture with the colour of Timothy McVeigh, the KKK and the Westoboro Babtist Church then?
 
2008-09-08 03:12:08 PM  
DROxINxTHExWIND: Admittedly, I had to go and readjust my tinfoil hat this weekend when I saw the 9/11 specials airing. I was thinking, "how convenient that these are replaying right after the Republican Convention. I guess they want us to remember that brown people are the enemy".

Then, I caught a glimpse of a calendar and I slinked into my corner.


Hey, at least you caught yourself reacting based on opinion and emotion and realized it for that.

It isn't an easy thing to do. I intentionally watched John McCain's speech at the RNC under the pretext 'imagine that you don't like him, and didn't help him campaign in 2000'. It did help identify several areas in which I would have tailored his speech.

But in my opinion, realizing your own preconceptions is one of the most difficult things to do.
 
2008-09-08 03:12:11 PM  
simian04: 9/5/1605


Remember,Remember


?
 
2008-09-08 03:13:08 PM  
FuzzyNoNoseChimp: Just because you don't talk about it 24/7, and have a huge friggin memorial every year, doesn't mean people have forgotten. Everyone knows about Pearl Harbor, but we don't friggin bring it up every day, do we?



Grave of the Fireflies
 
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