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2008-09-08 12:47:37 PM  
I try not to think about it... but I doubt I'll ever forget it.
 
2008-09-08 12:58:22 PM  
I can't forget. Not as long as people keep exploiting it.
 
2008-09-08 01:16:14 PM  
It's my birthday.
 
2008-09-08 01:21:20 PM  
Everything thing is eventually forgotten.
All those memories lost in time, like teardrops in the rain.
 
2008-09-08 01:50:55 PM  
Are you from the future?

It's still 9/8 in my part of the world.
 
2008-09-08 02:20:13 PM  
Over Macho Grande?
 
2008-09-08 02:21:43 PM  
It's perfectly natural for healthy adults to think about other terrorist attacks - or even natural disasters - after seven long years of the "same old, same old."
 
2008-09-08 02:22:25 PM  
All I know is that if Tom Brady is gone for the season this Thursday is going to be a very sad Patriot's Day. Who could ever forget the day they saw that towering QB collapse to the ground?
 
2008-09-08 02:25:31 PM  
Faux Shizzle: It's still 9/8 in my part of the world.

It's 9/11 the whole week (noticed a few of the stations like Discovery were re-showing their 9/11 documentaries over the weekend).

/it is a beautiful day here in the NYC area - just like 9/11/01, except there's no smoke
 
2008-09-08 02:29:18 PM  
For some reason earlier today I thought it was the 11th and was thinking about my tax payment being due on the 15th (which I was thinking was Friday) and realizing that it wouldn't wait through the weekend. Then I saw this thread and said to myself, "Oh yeah, it's 9/11." Then I realized it was only the 8th.

I feel like my brain is under attack.
 
2008-09-08 02:31:40 PM  
Seven years, and still Hulk Hogan has not been brought to justice.
 
2008-09-08 02:32:42 PM  
Could of forgotten it easier if Bush's favorite Saudi son had been captured.
 
2008-09-08 02:34:10 PM  
img100.imageshack.us
 
2008-09-08 02:41:13 PM  

Knock, knock. Who's there? 9/11. 9/11 who? You said you'd never forget. Well, it's been 7 years


Is there an itch involved?
 
2008-09-08 02:42:01 PM  
SchlingFocker

I always get a kick out of that pic.

Btw, I can tell it's NOT shopped. You know, from the pixels.
 
2008-09-08 02:42:12 PM  
SchlingFocker

That always makes me chuckle.
 
2008-09-08 02:42:19 PM  
DslainteC: All I know is that if Tom Brady is gone for the season this Thursday is going to be a very sad Patriot's Day. Who could ever forget the day they saw that towering QB collapse to the ground?

As a Denver Broncos fan, one of the things that I remember most vividly about 9/11 is that on the night before, during their season opener on Monday Night Football, Ed McCaffrey had a nasty compound leg fracture that ended his season (and, effectively, his career). He hung onto the ball, though.
 
2008-09-08 02:42:54 PM  
i377.photobucket.com
 
2008-09-08 02:43:10 PM  
Where is that pic originally from? Cause man alive is it hysterical.
 
2008-09-08 02:43:22 PM  
Just because you don't talk about it 24/7, and have a huge friggin memorial every year, doesn't mean people have forgotten. Everyone knows about Pearl Harbor, but we don't friggin bring it up every day, do we?
 
2008-09-08 02:43:22 PM  
CastorTroy: Over Macho Grande?


I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande.
 
2008-09-08 02:44:01 PM  
What I'll never forget is how my ex-girlfriend complained that no one remembered her birthday (9/12) because of it, and she thought that was shiatty.
 
2008-09-08 02:44:25 PM  
I'll never forget how it brought us together, and how that was
exploited by Bush, which caused us to be more divided than ever.
 
2008-09-08 02:44:26 PM  
bikerdiva: It's my birthday.

It's the day before mine. Still awkward.
 
2008-09-08 02:44:41 PM  
PH Neutral: What I'll never forget is how my ex-girlfriend complained that no one remembered her birthday (9/12) because of it, and she thought that was shiatty.

Dodged that bullet.
 
2008-09-08 02:45:10 PM  
PH Neutral: What I'll never forget is how my ex-girlfriend complained that no one remembered her birthday (9/12) because of it, and she thought that was shiatty.

Would've been much funnier had the post between ours been removed.
 
2008-09-08 02:45:10 PM  
DslainteC: All I know is that if Tom Brady is gone for the season this Thursday is going to be a very sad Patriot's Day. Who could ever forget the day they saw that towering QB collapse to the ground?

Coincidentally, Tom Brady became the new QB for the Pats in the very first game they played after 9/11/01 when the New York Jets' Mo Lewis took Bledsoe out of the game -and ultimately the franchise- with a massive hit.
 
2008-09-08 02:45:13 PM  
How can I forget when there's a new "collector's coin" every 6 minutes while I'm watching TV? I love the one that pops up the towers when you press a little button on the side. Act fast as the molds WILL BE DESTROYED IN ONE DAY!
 
2008-09-08 02:45:21 PM  
JesterGirl: CastorTroy: Over Macho Grande?


I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande.


You'll be swell, you'll be great, gonna have the whole world on a plate. Starting here. Starting now. The whole world is coming up r-o-o-s-e-e-e-s-s-s-s.
 
2008-09-08 02:45:58 PM  
www.supercollage.com

NEVAR FERGIT!
 
2008-09-08 02:46:11 PM  
JesterGirl: CastorTroy: Over Macho Grande?


I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande.


The survival of everyone on board this depends on just one thing: Finding someone on board who can not only fly this plane, but who didn't have fish for dinner.
 
2008-09-08 02:46:22 PM  
I remember how impressed I was with Bush in the immediate wake of 9/11...I thought, "Maybe I underestimated him" after seeing him on that pile of rubble talking to the workers at Ground Zero. It was one of the hardest moments a leader of the United States has ever needed to face, and he appeared to emerge as a true leader in those days.

The lesson? Always trust your first instincts
 
2008-09-08 02:46:39 PM  
UpstateMonkey: JesterGirl: CastorTroy: Over Macho Grande?


I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande.

You'll be swell, you'll be great, gonna have the whole world on a plate. Starting here. Starting now. The whole world is coming up r-o-o-s-e-e-e-s-s-s-s.



War is hell.
 
2008-09-08 02:46:51 PM  
As someone who was around on 9/11, I'm getting a ki...
 
2008-09-08 02:47:03 PM  
I'm still waiting for the duke nukem forever tower that they are planning to built
 
2008-09-08 02:47:11 PM  
Admittedly, I had to go and readjust my tinfoil hat this weekend when I saw the 9/11 specials airing. I was thinking, "how convenient that these are replaying right after the Republican Convention. I guess they want us to remember that brown people are the enemy".

Then, I caught a glimpse of a calendar and I slinked into my corner.
 
2008-09-08 02:47:57 PM  
very hypocritical, just like both sides.....

Can't we all just agree that Saddam should still be torturing his people, plotting to use WMD (and using them too), invading other countries for profit, blatantly disregarding UN mandates, and letting his sons rape women for pleasure?

The UN did nothing about it. The EU didn't have enough backing to do anything about it (the second time).

America did.

I don't necessarily agree with the time at which we chose to unilaterally bring a brutal dictator down. I do believe it was the right thing to do, being the wealthiest nation in the world.

/back to your regularly schedulding bush bashing and talk of oil oil oil (which is also quite important, I might add)
 
2008-09-08 02:48:05 PM  
I was over, done with, and sick of this nonsense about three hours after it happened. My 9/11 memory is of a whiny douchebag in poly sci that morning who announced, teary-eyed, that he didn't "feel like he could be here."
 
2008-09-08 02:48:18 PM  
seventypercent: DslainteC: All I know is that if Tom Brady is gone for the season this Thursday is going to be a very sad Patriot's Day. Who could ever forget the day they saw that towering QB collapse to the ground?

As a Denver Broncos fan, one of the things that I remember most vividly about 9/11 is that on the night before, during their season opener on Monday Night Football, Ed McCaffrey had a nasty compound leg fracture that ended his season (and, effectively, his career). He hung onto the ball, though.


And I remember how the towers falling somehow meant that no one could pick up a farking football the following weekend.

I had all these snacks...

/obscure?
 
2008-09-08 02:48:25 PM  
FuzzyNoNoseChimp: Just because you don't talk about it 24/7, and have a huge friggin memorial every year, doesn't mean people have forgotten. Everyone knows about Pearl Harbor, but we don't friggin bring it up every day, do we?

Was it over when the Germans bombed the twin towers?
 
2008-09-08 02:48:33 PM  
So, we wait another three years for the definite book to be written (new window)

/and another two years for Deborah Kerr and Burt Lancaster sucking face at Rockefeller Center
 
2008-09-08 02:48:33 PM  
Outshined_One: UpstateMonkey: JesterGirl: CastorTroy: Over Macho Grande?


I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande.

You'll be swell, you'll be great, gonna have the whole world on a plate. Starting here. Starting now. The whole world is coming up r-o-o-s-e-e-e-s-s-s-s.


War is hell.


It's Lieutenant Hurwitz. Severe shell-shock. Thinks he's Ethel Merman
 
2008-09-08 02:48:34 PM  
img158.imageshack.us
 
2008-09-08 02:49:07 PM  
Cue the troofers!
 
2008-09-08 02:49:36 PM  
It's Thursday, last I checked.

Awful day.

The reaction from the right made it far worse. Sorry if that makes you angry and you may now commence insulting me. I am not the one that politicized 9/11.

/RIP Ari
 
2008-09-08 02:49:43 PM  
SchlingFocker: img100.imageshack.us

I always LOL whenever I see that picture. I can't help it.
 
2008-09-08 02:50:13 PM  
The last thing he said to me, doc, he said, "Sometime when the crew is up against it, the breaks are beating the boys, tell them to get out there and give it all they got and win just one for the Zipper. I don't know where I'll be then doc, he said, but I won't smell too good, that's for sure.
 
2008-09-08 02:50:41 PM  
If I happen to see that the time in the upper right-hand corner of my computer screen reads 9:10, I'll look away, forbid my eyes to drift there for at least another minute.

A few months after it happened, I was in a store and was rung up $9.11. The lady behind me actually gasped and the cashier stood there staring at me and asked, "Aren't you going to buy something else?"

Years ago, when I worked customer service, a woman called up and took ten minutes to explain about how she was a Christian and couldn't possibly have an account number like 00226661213.

People are farking annoying sometimes.
 
2008-09-08 02:50:45 PM  
www.intoxination.net

Well you never 9/11 the 9/11's 9/11ing 9/11 9/11!

9/11!
 
2008-09-08 02:50:52 PM  
TiggaBob: SchlingFocker: img100.imageshack.us

I always LOL whenever I see that picture. I can't help it.


ditto
 
2008-09-08 02:51:07 PM  
I'll never forget 9/11/08, it's the day they'll take this damn fracture-stabilizing pin out of my hand, which means I also finally get the cast taken off. BRING ON THE CELEBRATION!
 
2008-09-08 02:51:23 PM  
DROxINxTHExWIND: Admittedly, I had to go and readjust my tinfoil hat this weekend when I saw the 9/11 specials airing. I was thinking, "how convenient that these are replaying right after the Republican Convention. I guess they want us to remember that brown people are the enemy".

Then, I caught a glimpse of a calendar and I slinked into my corner.


Good for you. A Conscience! wow. Whodathunkit?
 
2008-09-08 02:51:25 PM  
I told my girlfriend that this halloween she should dress as a building and I should dress as a plane. We'd walk down the street and I'd keep running into her. We laughed maniacally and then she told me I was evil. Guess it's kooky-spooks again this year.

/sigh
 
2008-09-08 02:51:38 PM  
Faux Shizzle: Are you from the future?

It's still 9/8 in my part of the world.



9.08.08: NEVER FORGET.
 
2008-09-08 02:51:39 PM  
I remember being drunk and high late that night watching Rudi Guliani's press conference and thinking, "Whoa, this looks like some kind of movie."
 
2008-09-08 02:51:40 PM  
Salon.com years ago did a 'things you're not supposed to say or think about 9/11' that readers were send in. I wish I could find it. Lots of black humour.
 
2008-09-08 02:51:45 PM  
Jamespoon: I can't forget. Not as long as people keep exploiting it.


Well said my friend.
 
2008-09-08 02:51:58 PM  
Look, I know it's a complicated issue and all, but can we all at least agree on this: the guy who wrote that article needs to have his ass kicked so high he'll have to take off his shirt to shiat.



After 9/11, I abruptly abandoned a novel (a lighthearted comedy!) I was working on. Any meaningful fiction, I decided, would have to address the attacks; at any rate, a lighthearted comedy would not go anywhere in such a climate.

A few months later, out of nowhere, I devised a plot involving trapped survivors, working myself into a mild frenzy over the idea before realizing, in silent embarrassment, that it pretty much recapitulated the major points of Graham Greene's "End of the Affair," set during the London blitz.


There are not words describing how much this blogger sucks.
 
2008-09-08 02:52:00 PM  
TheNext: Can't we all just agree that Saddam should still be torturing his people, plotting to use WMD (and using them too), invading other countries for profit, blatantly disregarding UN mandates, and letting his sons rape women for pleasure?

The UN did nothing about it. The EU didn't have enough backing to do anything about it (the second time).

America did.

I don't necessarily agree with the time at which we chose to unilaterally bring a brutal dictator down. I do believe it was the right thing to do, being the wealthiest nation in the world.


couldn't find your way to the enlistment office, huh?
 
2008-09-08 02:52:04 PM  
Asbury: I'll never forget 9/11/08, it's the day they'll take this damn fracture-stabilizing pin out of my hand, which means I also finally get the cast taken off. BRING ON THE CELEBRATION MASTURBATION!

Fixed that for you.
 
2008-09-08 02:52:13 PM  
Asbury: I'll never forget 9/11/08, it's the day they'll take this damn fracture-stabilizing pin out of my hand, which means I also finally get the cast taken off. BRING ON THE CELEBRATION!

... Maybe after you and your hand have 'make-up sex' you can come join us at the bar. Please wash up first.
 
2008-09-08 02:52:28 PM  
priestrape: I remember how impressed I was with Bush in the immediate wake of 9/11...I thought, "Maybe I underestimated him" after seeing him on that pile of rubble talking to the workers at Ground Zero. It was one of the hardest moments a leader of the United States has ever needed to face, and he appeared to emerge as a true leader in those days.

The lesson? Always trust your first instincts


I remember saying to my husband when Bush said "we will get the people..." that how sick i thought it was he was using this as a PR move, and he is going to go after everyone brown. My husband had fallen into that "maybe we were wrong about ol bushie", but I never did.
 
2008-09-08 02:52:42 PM  
I'm too busy hating the troops to remember 9/11. Its really a full time job for me.
 
2008-09-08 02:52:49 PM  
I was sort of hoping that the towers would have been rebuilt by now.
 
2008-09-08 02:53:04 PM  
FTFA: If I happen to see that the time in the upper right-hand corner of my computer screen reads 9:10

That's the problem, right there.
 
2008-09-08 02:53:10 PM  
www.bradblog.com
 
2008-09-08 02:53:11 PM  
simian04: I told my girlfriend that this halloween she should dress as a building and I should dress as a plane. We'd walk down the street and I'd keep running into her. We laughed maniacally and then she told me I was evil. Guess it's kooky-spooks again this year.

/sigh


Love is having someone with whom to share your horribly tasteless jokes.
 
2008-09-08 02:53:24 PM  
I had a business trip in Europe starting on 9/15. It amazes me how much good will towards Americans there was then and how much our government has pissed it away.
 
2008-09-08 02:53:25 PM  
As part of the demolition crew that ensured the towers collapse I celebrate 9/11 with my Illuminati brethren as the highest accomplishment since we took over the leadership of OPEC with the help of the Bilderburgs. We plan on having a 10th anniversary party at Bohemian Grove where we'll pat each other on the back for all our accomplishments over the years.
 
2008-09-08 02:53:33 PM  
re-elect_jimmy_carter: NEVAR FERGIT!

Yeah real funny farkwad, between the 5th and 6th frame is when my high school friend was vaporized.
 
2008-09-08 02:53:39 PM  
Ed Finnerty: Asbury: I'll never forget 9/11/08, it's the day they'll take this damn fracture-stabilizing pin out of my hand, which means I also finally get the cast taken off. BRING ON THE CELEBRATION MASTURBATION!

Fixed that for you.


LOL
 
2008-09-08 02:53:40 PM  
Seven years and America is still dead.
 
2008-09-08 02:53:47 PM  
Nestea Plunge: TheNext: very hypocritical, just like both sides.....

Can't we all just agree that Saddam should still be torturing his people, plotting to use WMD (and using them too), invading other countries for profit, blatantly disregarding UN mandates, and letting his sons rape women for pleasure?

The UN did nothing about it. The EU didn't have enough backing to do anything about it (the second time).

America did.

I don't necessarily agree with the time at which we chose to unilaterally bring a brutal dictator down. I do believe it was the right thing to do, being the wealthiest nation in the world.

/back to your regularly schedulding bush bashing and talk of oil oil oil (which is also quite important, I might add)

Saddam did 9/11?


him and obama.
 
2008-09-08 02:53:50 PM  
Ah, another 9/11 thread for cynical farkers to jerk themselves off.

Anyone happen to have a link to the original 9/11 threads?
 
2008-09-08 02:54:41 PM  
rubi_con_man: Asbury: I'll never forget 9/11/08, it's the day they'll take this damn fracture-stabilizing pin out of my hand, which means I also finally get the cast taken off. BRING ON THE CELEBRATION!

... Maybe after you and your hand have 'make-up sex' you can come join us at the bar. Please wash up first.


Can I bring my husband?

/Asbury is a girl!
 
2008-09-08 02:54:48 PM  
sararenne: priestrape: I remember how impressed I was with Bush in the immediate wake of 9/11...I thought, "Maybe I underestimated him" after seeing him on that pile of rubble talking to the workers at Ground Zero. It was one of the hardest moments a leader of the United States has ever needed to face, and he appeared to emerge as a true leader in those days.

The lesson? Always trust your first instincts

I remember saying to my husband when Bush said "we will get the people..." that how sick i thought it was he was using this as a PR move, and he is going to go after everyone brown. My husband had fallen into that "maybe we were wrong about ol bushie", but I never did.


I was honestly bewildered by the reaction. I mean, he was an idiot on 9/10 - I couldn't understand how anyone thought he'd changed.
 
2008-09-08 02:55:02 PM  
priestrape: I remember how impressed I was with Bush in the immediate wake of 9/11...I thought, "Maybe I underestimated him" after seeing him on that pile of rubble talking to the workers at Ground Zero. It was one of the hardest moments a leader of the United States has ever needed to face, and he appeared to emerge as a true leader in those days.

The lesson? Always trust your first instincts

=======================================

I was a little more cynical. I was in the mindset that the chickens were coming home to roost. But, even thinking that I was PISSED and I felt that we had been violated.

I'm as liberal as they claim Obama is but, during the rubble speech Bush had me ready to go kill some brown people. I was faaaaaar from thinking the Bush administration was involved in this.
 
2008-09-08 02:55:05 PM  
sararenne: I remember saying to my husband when Bush said "we will get the people..." that how sick i thought it was he was using this as a PR move, and he is going to go after everyone brown. My husband had fallen into that "maybe we were wrong about ol bushie", but I never did.

it's amazing when you think back to the near unilateral support he had in those following weeks, and what has happened to it since.

I wonder if there has ever been a study of the largest swing in approval rating
 
2008-09-08 02:55:09 PM  
I purposely forget, so I don't have to realize how stupid Americans are at Geography and their simplified view that all brown people are the same.

NY is full of assholes anyway, so karma was bound to strike at them one way or another.
 
2008-09-08 02:55:12 PM  
seven years and you still have a hole in the ground
 
2008-09-08 02:55:29 PM  
What's this about the twin towers?
 
2008-09-08 02:55:33 PM  
My wife's mother was a teacher across the street from the WTC. Heard the hit, got caught up the the collapse, made it to Battery Park, lucky lady. The school was used as a morgue afterwards.
 
2008-09-08 02:55:46 PM  
The people post pics are so.... trying to brush up on their PS skills.

Haven't considered hitting the ignore button until.....BetterThomas: Well you never 9/11 the 9/11's 9/11ing 9/11 9/11!

9/11!


/I'd splash some vitamins on your brain if you could possibly grow one

//Hello JD (don't confuse that with GW)
 
2008-09-08 02:55:48 PM  
EmperorSled: FuzzyNoNoseChimp: Just because you don't talk about it 24/7, and have a huge friggin memorial every year, doesn't mean people have forgotten. Everyone knows about Pearl Harbor, but we don't friggin bring it up every day, do we?

Was it over when the Germans bombed the twin towers?


No, just slightly after we nuked England, and enslaved the French.
 
2008-09-08 02:56:14 PM  
9/11 was Bush's doing in order to get into iraq
 
2008-09-08 02:56:25 PM  
UpstateMonkey: My wife's mother was a teacher across the street from the WTC. Heard the hit, got caught up the the collapse, made it to Battery Park, lucky lady. The school was used as a morgue afterwards.

Damn...
 
2008-09-08 02:56:49 PM  
Its Rudy Giuliani day already? Time flies when there is an election. Maybe McSame can give a speech from spot of where the WTC buildings stood...

or at least have a back drop with a picture of a pound zero symbols behind him, when to stay in touch with the youth, he is explaining to the middle school students why they will be going to Iran to stop these gods of terror that can't be stopped from caves and houses without running water unless we let the president burn the constitution just to have us thank him for saving it when he finally decides to piss it out.
 
2008-09-08 02:57:03 PM  
Q: What did the Empire State Building say on 9/11

A: I'm Back
 
2008-09-08 02:57:10 PM  
that morning i had a clear view of Logan...
 
2008-09-08 02:57:11 PM  
Pxtl: I was honestly bewildered by the reaction. I mean, he was an idiot on 9/10 - I couldn't understand how anyone thought he'd changed.

For me, it was the fact that I expected him to fall flat on his face...and, at least in the way he spoke and the way he appeared to rise to the occasion, he didn't.

And I'm sure I got wrapped up in the national let's-stick-together-ism of the moment, too.
 
2008-09-08 02:57:12 PM  
...and the terrorists won in the long run, sadly.

Of course, I like to play the tape of the towers collapsing on 9/11 backward. Then it looks like someone is building them really really fast...

/would someone save me a seat in Hell?
 
2008-09-08 02:57:15 PM  
img385.imageshack.us
 
2008-09-08 02:57:23 PM  
fireisprogress: FTFA: If I happen to see that the time in the upper right-hand corner of my computer screen reads 9:10

That's the problem, right there.


I see what you did there.
 
2008-09-08 02:57:52 PM  
FTA:

"'it made me feel sort of impressed, actually, that something that I experienced as so horrible could actually recede into the safety of history. Now it can be experienced on two planes - intellectual and emotional.'

Two planes."

Four planes. New York City wasn't the only location or group of people affected. What is with these smug, post-post-irony New York writers, masturbating to the idea that their experiences were the only ones that existed and therefore mattered?
 
2008-09-08 02:57:54 PM  
Royale With Cheese: As someone who was around on 9/11, I'm getting a ki...

Yeah, that's nothing near as stressful as having a view of Logan Airport on the morning of 9/11/01.

That was really tough.

Anyone remember what Farker that was? That's up there with the Marine "Core" and wife-like typing.
 
2008-09-08 02:57:59 PM  
I think those Hulk Hogan photos might be faked. Why would he put his bandana back on after frolicking in the rubble?
 
2008-09-08 02:58:03 PM  
SchlingFocker

It was controlled Demolition

i168.photobucket.com
 
2008-09-08 02:58:10 PM  
i81.photobucket.com
 
2008-09-08 02:58:18 PM  
Nestea Plunge: TheNext: very hypocritical, just like both sides.....

Can't we all just agree that Saddam should still be torturing his people, plotting to use WMD (and using them too), invading other countries for profit, blatantly disregarding UN mandates, and letting his sons rape women for pleasure?

The UN did nothing about it. The EU didn't have enough backing to do anything about it (the second time).

America did.

I don't necessarily agree with the time at which we chose to unilaterally bring a brutal dictator down. I do believe it was the right thing to do, being the wealthiest nation in the world.

/back to your regularly schedulding bush bashing and talk of oil oil oil (which is also quite important, I might add)

Saddam did 9/11?


You get my vote for troll twist of fark.

priestrape: TheNext: Can't we all just agree that Saddam should still be torturing his people, plotting to use WMD (and using them too), invading other countries for profit, blatantly disregarding UN mandates, and letting his sons rape women for pleasure?

The UN did nothing about it. The EU didn't have enough backing to do anything about it (the second time).

America did.

I don't necessarily agree with the time at which we chose to unilaterally bring a brutal dictator down. I do believe it was the right thing to do, being the wealthiest nation in the world.

couldn't find your way to the enlistment office, huh?


Actually I did.
 
2008-09-08 02:58:23 PM  
Loverboy586: 9/11 was Bush's doing in order to get into iraq


Here we go ...
 
2008-09-08 02:59:03 PM  
9-11 was an inside job, man!
 
2008-09-08 02:59:57 PM  
g8.undercoverhd.com
never forget
 
2008-09-08 03:00:05 PM  
FTFA:
The Ruins of the Future

Right after 9/11, when the event was deemed too raw for words, I kept coming across clairvoyant art. In October 2001, I went to the 92nd Street Y for the first time, to hear W. G. Sebald read. After the reading, I asked him to sign a copy of his novel "Austerlitz," which had come out that month. It contains the cool, startling observation that "somehow we know by instinct that outsize buildings cast the shadow of their own destruction before them, and are designed from the first with an eye to their later existence as ruins."


Somewhat unrelated, but this paragraph reminded me how in early 2002 or so, a friend and I got to talking about music, and I recommended that he pick up Angie Aparo's "The American" and he took a look at the cover art and got All Sorts Of Offended. So much for intelligent musical discourse, the album came out in 2000.
 
2008-09-08 03:00:10 PM  
TheNext: Actually I did.

did you serve in the same company as TheConvincingSavant?
 
2008-09-08 03:00:37 PM  
rubi_con_man: simian04: I told my girlfriend that this halloween she should dress as a building and I should dress as a plane. We'd walk down the street and I'd keep running into her. We laughed maniacally and then she told me I was evil. Guess it's kooky-spooks again this year.

/sigh

Love is having someone with whom to share your horribly tasteless jokes.


Hey, buster, Kooky-Spooks are NOT tasteless. Cheaper than your granny, maybe, but not tasteless.
 
2008-09-08 03:00:40 PM  
Asbury: rubi_con_man: Asbury: I'll never forget 9/11/08, it's the day they'll take this damn fracture-stabilizing pin out of my hand, which means I also finally get the cast taken off. BRING ON THE CELEBRATION!

... Maybe after you and your hand have 'make-up sex' you can come join us at the bar. Please wash up first.

Can I bring my husband?

/Asbury is a girl!


In that case , how YOU doin?
 
2008-09-08 03:00:44 PM  
Nestea Plunge: 7's the key number here. Think about it. 7-Elevens. 7 doors. 7, man, that's the number. 7 chipmunks twirlin' on a branch, eatin' lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch. You know that old children's tale from the sea. It's like you're dreamin' about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office.

My favorite part of that movie. +9/11
 
2008-09-08 03:01:09 PM  
Many of us, not then born, remember Pearl Harbor. I will remember 9/11 for the rest of my life.

That day was a wake up call to the West that some elements within Islam, not all of Islam by any means, but a large proportion, had declared war on our culture. This war continues. It is not something "made up" by the Republicans, it is not just a few wild eyed crazies in the caves of Afghanistan. No, the Islamic world resents us. They still recall the days of their glory. They still recall the time, centuries ago, when their armies marched in triumph across the face of the Mediterranean world, Byzantium, India, right up to the doors of Vienna. They recall when their physicians, philosophers, scientists, poets and artists were far beyond anything that barbaric Europe could muster. These days are long gone now. They chafe under the knowledge that even with their oil wealth, their culture has stagnated and fallen far behind the West. They, like children, blame us for their failure.

No amount of war, no amount of terror, no amount of savagery will restore their former glory. They must, if they are to survive, cast aside their 14th century shackles and bring Islam and the Islamic world into the community of nations.
 
2008-09-08 03:02:01 PM  
I was in an airport on 9/11!
 
2008-09-08 03:02:25 PM  
Just like every other "patriotic" event, just like every other "they were heros!" story, it'll fade in time. Usually once everyone involved has died. You don't see nobody bouncing up and down yelling "Remember the Revolution!" without that person being a complete nutzo. Here's the big clue people should pick up on...

No one really cares!
 
2008-09-08 03:02:35 PM  
9/11 = .8181818 Yeah, so??? This not only happened 7 years ago it also happened today and I'll bet it happens again tomorrow.

/do the math
 
2008-09-08 03:02:41 PM  
I'm torn. Part of me feels like that article was a poignant look at a national tragedy.

Another part of me feels like that whole thing was a poorly disguised plug for his book.

/I wrote a 9/11 comment without meaning to
 
2008-09-08 03:02:45 PM  
scapes23: JesterGirl: CastorTroy: Over Macho Grande?


I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande.

The survival of everyone on board this depends on just one thing: Finding someone on board who can not only fly this plane, but who didn't have fish for dinner.



There's no reason to be alarmed and we hope you enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?
 
2008-09-08 03:02:57 PM  
Nobody's forgotten, we're in a war we're blaming on it (even if you think we should be in Iraq, you have to admit [or don't, if you're stupid] it had nothing to do with 9/11, despite what Bush wanted us to believe).

Besides, I see signs everywhere, speeches and collector's coins.... I feel bad for the people who were actually involved. If you had PTSD from 9/11 you would have absolutely no way to escape the memories.
 
2008-09-08 03:03:06 PM  
jennyz: Ah, another 9/11 thread for cynical farkers to jerk themselves off.

Anyone happen to have a link to the original 9/11 threads?


You can search by date on the Fark headline search page.
 
2008-09-08 03:03:18 PM  
img389.imageshack.us
 
2008-09-08 03:03:57 PM  
I was starting my second year of teaching, and in my first week at a brand-new school. It's awfully hard to maintain a face of composure from 3rd period until 9th period in front of kids who need to know not everything is falling apart.

I can't ever forget.
 
2008-09-08 03:04:35 PM  
JesterGirl: scapes23: JesterGirl: CastorTroy: Over Macho Grande?


I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande.

The survival of everyone on board this depends on just one thing: Finding someone on board who can not only fly this plane, but who didn't have fish for dinner.


There's no reason to be alarmed and we hope you enjoy the rest of your flight. By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?


Hehe. That's a nestea plunge. Enjoy your drink until thenext.
 
2008-09-08 03:05:26 PM  
oh come on.. nobody posted this yet.


elgaroo.13th-floor.org
 
2008-09-08 03:05:33 PM  
priestrape: And I'm sure I got wrapped up in the national let's-stick-together-ism of the moment, too.

I still have a tupperware lid that I burned a red, a white, and a blue candle on and let all the colors mix together. I sat out on my front step with it burning wondering where my girlfriend was.

Turns out she was sleeping with somebody else.
 
2008-09-08 03:06:08 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Now I'm off to sacrifice a goat to Toby Keith in honor of 9/11.

/you can't do that
//toby keith doesn't want to be fed
///TOBY KEITH WANTS TO HUNT!
//// ...9/11!
 
2008-09-08 03:06:11 PM  
The terrorists have won.
 
2008-09-08 03:06:14 PM  
Why do people place so much emphasis and sentimentality upon recurring dates? Dates are just a function of the mechanics of our solar system and calendar. It's not like the terrorist attack on that day or any other isolated event is actually cyclical and needs to be remembered every year at a specific time or the universe will end. Why is 9/11/2008 a better day for reflection than any other day of the year, such as 9/12/2008? There's no actual relationship. Has it become so attenuated that you need to be reminded by a mnemonic device inherent in the calendar once each year? Why not remember it every day at 9:12AM if it's so blatantly arbitrary? You know, you don't have to obsess over something on a certain day just because it gets television coverage and everybody around you is doing the same thing. You have a choice to be an individual. Some societal ceremonies are good and some of them are just stupid. If you can detach yourself from the emotional aspects of the events, you may realize that this practice is one of them.
 
2008-09-08 03:06:37 PM  
My ex-boss's birthday: September 11.

I can feel for him: I share my birthday with a great historical unnatural disaster.
 
2008-09-08 03:06:58 PM  
I remember turning to the TV while on the computer and seeing the second plane hit. Three days prior to that I ran into a telephone pole at 57MPH and was still shaken up about it. I vaugely remember the whole day but I do remember the constant fire drills and the initial panic in the rural town I lived in afterwards.

SchlingFocker: I lol'd very loudly.
 
2008-09-08 03:07:07 PM  
jennyz: Anyone happen to have a link to the original 9/11 threads?

If you read through those threads, you'll see one of the comments that I'll "never forget." It must have been sometime in the afternoon after the talking heads starting speculating about who was responsible for the attacks. Someone posted this epic question:

"Who's this Bill Laden guy?"
 
2008-09-08 03:07:10 PM  
jaylectricity: priestrape: And I'm sure I got wrapped up in the national let's-stick-together-ism of the moment, too.

I still have a tupperware lid that I burned a red, a white, and a blue candle on and let all the colors mix together. I sat out on my front step with it burning wondering where my girlfriend was.

Turns out she was sleeping with somebody else.


Sorry about that, she said she was single.
 
2008-09-08 03:07:10 PM  
americandigest.org


Yeah. Funny. Assholes.
 
2008-09-08 03:07:14 PM  
rufus-t-firefly: Royale With Cheese: As someone who was around on 9/11, I'm getting a ki...

Yeah, that's nothing near as stressful as having a view of Logan Airport on the morning of 9/11/01.

That was really tough.

Anyone remember what Farker that was? That's up there with the Marine "Core" and wife-like typing.


I was in the thread where that originated, but the internet has all blended together over the years, and I have no idea where, when, or who.
 
2008-09-08 03:07:21 PM  
What this is to me (among other things) is proof of how long I lurked. My login says it was created July '03 - but I distinctly remember being on the fark 9/11 threads all freakin' day long.
 
2008-09-08 03:07:32 PM  
Nestea Plunge: TheNext: very hypocritical, just like both sides.....

Can't we all just agree that Saddam should still be torturing his people, plotting to use WMD (and using them too), invading other countries for profit, blatantly disregarding UN mandates, and letting his sons rape women for pleasure?

The UN did nothing about it. The EU didn't have enough backing to do anything about it (the second time).

America did.

I don't necessarily agree with the time at which we chose to unilaterally bring a brutal dictator down. I do believe it was the right thing to do, being the wealthiest nation in the world.

/back to your regularly schedulding bush bashing and talk of oil oil oil (which is also quite important, I might add)

Saddam did 9/11?


Sure.
He used those WMDs TheNext was talking about. Good thing we found and destroyed those, huh?
 
2008-09-08 03:07:59 PM  
jaylectricity: Turns out she was sleeping with somebody else.

damn

Oznog: Now I'm off to sacrifice a goat to Toby Keith in honor of 9/11.

/you can't do that
//toby keith doesn't want to be fed
///TOBY KEITH WANTS TO HUNT!
//// ...9/11!


Seth MacFarlane was supposed to be on one of those planes, but missed (or skipped) the flight
 
2008-09-08 03:08:12 PM  
TheNext: very hypocritical, just like both sides.....

Can't we all just agree that Saddam should still be torturing his people, plotting to use WMD (and using them too), invading other countries for profit, blatantly disregarding UN mandates, and letting his sons rape women for pleasure?

The UN did nothing about it. The EU didn't have enough backing to do anything about it (the second time).

America did.

I don't necessarily agree with the time at which we chose to unilaterally bring a brutal dictator down. I do believe it was the right thing to do, being the wealthiest nation in the world.

/back to your regularly schedulding bush bashing and talk of oil oil oil (which is also quite important, I might add)


Excellent point. So when are you going to invade Sudan and the Congo?
 
2008-09-08 03:08:53 PM  
Samsaran: Many of us, not then born, remember Pearl Harbor. I will remember 9/11 for the rest of my life.

That day was a wake up call to the West that some elements within Islam, not all of Islam by any means, but a large proportion, had declared war on our culture. This war continues. It is not something "made up" by the Republicans, it is not just a few wild eyed crazies in the caves of Afghanistan. No, the Islamic world resents us. They still recall the days of their glory. They still recall the time, centuries ago, when their armies marched in triumph across the face of the Mediterranean world, Byzantium, India, right up to the doors of Vienna. They recall when their physicians, philosophers, scientists, poets and artists were far beyond anything that barbaric Europe could muster. These days are long gone now. They chafe under the knowledge that even with their oil wealth, their culture has stagnated and fallen far behind the West. They, like children, blame us for their failure.

No amount of war, no amount of terror, no amount of savagery will restore their former glory. They must, if they are to survive, cast aside their 14th century shackles and bring Islam and the Islamic world into the community of nations.


Stop making sense, you. You'll attract the trolls!
 
2008-09-08 03:08:57 PM  
sorry we forgot. "survivor" was on.
 
2008-09-08 03:09:03 PM  
bikerdiva: It's my birthday.

Mine too!
 
2008-09-08 03:09:50 PM  
In 2005 I went to Vegas for some general drunken debauchery. It was weird to look at the pictures when I got back and notice the 9/11 date in the corner. It hadn't even crossed my mind the whole time I was there.
 
2008-09-08 03:09:53 PM  
Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: Why do people place so much emphasis and sentimentality upon recurring dates? Dates are just a function of the mechanics of our solar system and calendar. It's not like the terrorist attack on that day or any other isolated event is actually cyclical and needs to be remembered every year at a specific time or the universe will end. Why is 9/11/2008 a better day for reflection than any other day of the year, such as 9/12/2008? There's no actual relationship. Has it become so attenuated that you need to be reminded by a mnemonic device inherent in the calendar once each year? Why not remember it every day at 9:12AM if it's so blatantly arbitrary? You know, you don't have to obsess over something on a certain day just because it gets television coverage and everybody around you is doing the same thing. You have a choice to be an individual. Some societal ceremonies are good and some of them are just stupid. If you can detach yourself from the emotional aspects of the events, you may realize that this practice is one of them.

YEAH! AND WHAT ABOUT LEAP YEARS?!?!
 
2008-09-08 03:10:37 PM  
My wife made me watch United 93 the other night. It was unbearably cheesy. I cringed when both flight attendants all but basically turned to the camera and said, "We weren't even supposed to BE on this plane. She was going to call in sick, and I took somebody else's shift. My husband was really upset. Wouldn't it be ironic if the plane crashed and we both died?".

It's amazing how many people still think that 93 wasn't shot down my our military.
 
2008-09-08 03:10:47 PM  
9/5/1605
i283.photobucket.com

Remember,Remember
 
2008-09-08 03:11:04 PM  
I was flying to the UK on 9/11. Left on the 10th from the east coast. I made my connection but my luggage didn't. American airspace was closed down and my luggage spent the next 10 days in Philly. I spent it in the UK.

The guy that picked me up at the airport asked me if I heard about things back in the states and my response was pretty much WTF??? When I reached the office I was told that I have to call the wife first thing to let her know I was ok. It was a wierd conversation.

U.S. airspace opened and the flight back was rather empty. Got to Philly to check on my luggage and they informed me that they sent it to the UK that morning. Had them send it back. Bonus was that all my clothes were clean when I got them back. They never left the suitcase.
 
2008-09-08 03:11:11 PM  
A couple of mates and I once pulled the chains of some visiting colleagues from the US. We all pretended to not know about 9/11.
 
2008-09-08 03:11:12 PM  
Where were you
When they built that ladder to heaven?

Did it make you feel like crying
Or did you think it was kinda gay
 
2008-09-08 03:11:26 PM  
TheNext: You get my vote for troll twist of fark.

Huh?
You brought up Saddam. This is a 9/11 thread.
 
2008-09-08 03:11:39 PM  
nobodys_goose: Here's the big clue people should pick up on...

No one really cares!


Yes, we do.
 
2008-09-08 03:11:53 PM  
jaylectricity: YEAH! AND WHAT ABOUT LEAP YEARS?!?!

Leap years are there to account for differences between a calendar year and the actual rotation around...

wait a minute...
 
2008-09-08 03:12:01 PM  
Samsaran: Many of us, not then born, remember Pearl Harbor. I will remember 9/11 for the rest of my life.

That day was a wake up call to the West that some elements within Islam, not all of Islam by any means, but a large proportion, had declared war on our culture. This war continues. It is not something "made up" by the Republicans, it is not just a few wild eyed crazies in the caves of Afghanistan. No, the Islamic world resents us. They still recall the days of their glory. They still recall the time, centuries ago, when their armies marched in triumph across the face of the Mediterranean world, Byzantium, India, right up to the doors of Vienna. They recall when their physicians, philosophers, scientists, poets and artists were far beyond anything that barbaric Europe could muster. These days are long gone now. They chafe under the knowledge that even with their oil wealth, their culture has stagnated and fallen far behind the West. They, like children, blame us for their failure.

No amount of war, no amount of terror, no amount of savagery will restore their former glory. They must, if they are to survive, cast aside their 14th century shackles and bring Islam and the Islamic world into the community of nations.



So you're painting the whole Islamic culture with the colour of terrorists?
Can we paint the whole Western culture with the colour of Timothy McVeigh, the KKK and the Westoboro Babtist Church then?
 
2008-09-08 03:12:08 PM  
DROxINxTHExWIND: Admittedly, I had to go and readjust my tinfoil hat this weekend when I saw the 9/11 specials airing. I was thinking, "how convenient that these are replaying right after the Republican Convention. I guess they want us to remember that brown people are the enemy".

Then, I caught a glimpse of a calendar and I slinked into my corner.


Hey, at least you caught yourself reacting based on opinion and emotion and realized it for that.

It isn't an easy thing to do. I intentionally watched John McCain's speech at the RNC under the pretext 'imagine that you don't like him, and didn't help him campaign in 2000'. It did help identify several areas in which I would have tailored his speech.

But in my opinion, realizing your own preconceptions is one of the most difficult things to do.
 
2008-09-08 03:12:11 PM  
simian04: 9/5/1605


Remember,Remember


?
 
2008-09-08 03:13:08 PM  
FuzzyNoNoseChimp: Just because you don't talk about it 24/7, and have a huge friggin memorial every year, doesn't mean people have forgotten. Everyone knows about Pearl Harbor, but we don't friggin bring it up every day, do we?



Grave of the Fireflies
 
2008-09-08 03:13:15 PM  
simian04: 9/5/1605
Remember,Remember


Yeah, "Remember Remember the fifth OF NOVEMBER!"

/here's your FAIL.
 
2008-09-08 03:13:18 PM  
simian04: 9/5/1605

You mean 11/5/1605?
 
2008-09-08 03:13:40 PM  
Rebus: A couple of mates and I once pulled the chains of some visiting colleagues from the US. We all pretended to not know about 9/11.

That is ingenious and evil.
 
2008-09-08 03:13:56 PM  
nobodys_goose: Just like every other "patriotic" event, just like every other "they were heros!" story, it'll fade in time. Usually once everyone involved has died. You don't see nobody bouncing up and down yelling "Remember the Revolution!" without that person being a complete nutzo. Here's the big clue people should pick up on...

No one really cares!


i106.photobucket.com
 
2008-09-08 03:13:58 PM  
Bukharin: Everything thing is eventually forgotten.
All those memories lost in time, like teardrops in the rain.


Link
 
2008-09-08 03:14:16 PM  
Loverboy586: 9/11 was Bush's doing in order to get into iraq

Oh shut up and go watch Teletubbies.
 
2008-09-08 03:14:16 PM  
images.icanhascheezburger.com

I took this one myself.
 
2008-09-08 03:15:26 PM  
LOL VENDETTA FAIL
 
2008-09-08 03:15:31 PM  
Robert1966: I took this one myself.

Incredible image. Thanks for sharing.
 
2008-09-08 03:16:00 PM  
Robert1966: I took this one myself.

Can you post a link to a larger version, it looks like an incredible photo.
 
2008-09-08 03:16:08 PM  
Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

What. You collect pictures of people jumping to their deaths just so you can slap a guilt trip on somebody who's not as affected by 9/11 like you are? You sick fark. I think you should take a flying leap from a tall building and rid the world of your twisted fetish.

/Now that's funny.
 
2008-09-08 03:16:08 PM  
Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
 
2008-09-08 03:17:25 PM  
Robert1966: I took this one myself.

I feel bad for laughing that it is hosted on ICHC.
 
2008-09-08 03:17:26 PM  
orat-on-a-stick: FuzzyNoNoseChimp: Just because you don't talk about it 24/7, and have a huge friggin memorial every year, doesn't mean people have forgotten. Everyone knows about Pearl Harbor, but we don't friggin bring it up every day, do we?

Grave of the Fireflies


Awesome movie. Made me cry. :(

/a girl
//so it's okay if I'm sappy
///and use smilies :P
 
2008-09-08 03:17:28 PM  
BillyRex:
Yeah real funny farkwad, between the 5th and 6th frame is when my high school friend was vaporized.


Jeez, they take bowling waaaay to seriously in your neck of the woods.
 
2008-09-08 03:17:29 PM  
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01

YEAH! NEVER FORGET!!!!!


"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

Whoops... Forgot
 
2008-09-08 03:17:38 PM  
suggestivesimon: simian04: 9/5/1605

You mean 11/5/1605?


Eh.
 
2008-09-08 03:17:49 PM  
Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: Why do people place so much emphasis and sentimentality upon recurring dates? Dates are just a function of the mechanics of our solar system and calendar. It's not like the terrorist attack on that day or any other isolated event is actually cyclical and needs to be remembered every year at a specific time or the universe will end. Why is 9/11/2008 a better day for reflection than any other day of the year, such as 9/12/2008? There's no actual relationship. Has it become so attenuated that you need to be reminded by a mnemonic device inherent in the calendar once each year? Why not remember it every day at 9:12AM if it's so blatantly arbitrary? You know, you don't have to obsess over something on a certain day just because it gets television coverage and everybody around you is doing the same thing. You have a choice to be an individual. Some societal ceremonies are good and some of them are just stupid. If you can detach yourself from the emotional aspects of the events, you may realize that this practice is one of them.

Newsletter?
 
2008-09-08 03:18:06 PM  
TheKnownUniverse: Robert1966: I took this one myself.

I feel bad for laughing that it is hosted on ICHC.


First thing I noticed hahaha.
 
2008-09-08 03:18:16 PM  
I'll never forget the clueless assholes that started calling that afternoon wondering why their internet connection didn't work.

"Well sir, half the telephone exchanges for NY were in the basement of the Trade Center"

I think I got a total of one half-apology. The rest demanded their service be restored and a credit to their account for the lost time.

Window into the soul of real America.
 
2008-09-08 03:18:25 PM  
Robert1966: I took this one myself.

Is that one frame of a video or just a chance snapshot?
 
2008-09-08 03:18:28 PM  
rufus-t-firefly:

And I remember how the towers falling somehow meant that no one could pick up a farking football the following weekend.

I had all these snacks...

/obscure?


Nope.

I work at the fake mulberry street pizza in New York New York Casino.

That was almost me not me.
 
2008-09-08 03:18:50 PM  
Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

Statistically speaking; In the roughly 15 minutes between your post and mine, one person has died in a car crash in the USA. That trend will continue: 1 person per ~12 minutes, ~120 people a day, ~43,000 people per year.

Nobody makes a big deal about them on a national scale. Nobody.

There's a difference between "forgetting" and "getting over it" - and you need to get over it.
=Smidge=
 
2008-09-08 03:18:53 PM  
i4.photobucket.com

Everyone forgets about what went down at the Pentagon.
 
2008-09-08 03:18:53 PM  
www.myconfinedspace.com

You people are slacking.

/anyone have a link to the photoshop contest of this?
 
2008-09-08 03:19:28 PM  
Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

My god that is horrific, I can't even begin to imagine seeing something like that.
 
2008-09-08 03:19:29 PM  
suggestivesimon: simian04: 9/5/1605

You mean 11/5/1605?


Oh how fantastically odd. A Simon has corrected a Simon. Thank you, brother.
 
2008-09-08 03:19:39 PM  
Sullasdog

Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays?

/lighten up, Francois.
 
2008-09-08 03:19:59 PM  
toonz: "The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01

YEAH! NEVER FORGET!!!!!

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

Whoops... Forgot


I would like to point out this is the first mention of Osama in the thread. Not only do people not care to remember; people don't even want justice anymore.
 
2008-09-08 03:20:08 PM  
Well I use Mac/Linux...:
It's amazing how many people still think that 93 wasn't shot down my our military.


Or how many people still think that an airplane crashed into the Pentagon or that the twin towers came crashing down without the use of explosives.
 
2008-09-08 03:20:08 PM  
Charlie didn't forget.

Link (new window)

/Rock, flag, and eagle.
 
2008-09-08 03:20:13 PM  
blueskydei: orat-on-a-stick: FuzzyNoNoseChimp: Just because you don't talk about it 24/7, and have a huge friggin memorial every year, doesn't mean people have forgotten. Everyone knows about Pearl Harbor, but we don't friggin bring it up every day, do we?

Grave of the Fireflies

Awesome movie. Made me cry. :(

/a girl
//so it's okay if I'm sappy
///and use smilies :P




Yeah... They also did Princess Mononoke, The Cat Returns and several others in the same format.

/the not so sad ones
 
2008-09-08 03:20:23 PM  
I forgot what happened 5 minutes ago so i'm really getting a kick... etc etc
 
2008-09-08 03:20:24 PM  
TheNext: /back to your regularly schedulding bush bashing and talk of oil oil oil (which is also quite important, I might add)

I've been to Iraq. Seen it from the air and the ground. I'm going back soon. Anyone who says the Iraq war wasn't about oil has never seen that complete and utter shiathole. If there wasn't oil there, no one would care in the least about Iraq and it would be left to its own devices (see: all of Africa).

So please, justify and rationalize it all you like, but oil is the alpha and the omega when it comes to Middle Eastern policy.

/just another dumb jarhead.
 
2008-09-08 03:20:32 PM  
simian04: suggestivesimon: simian04: 9/5/1605

You mean 11/5/1605?

Eh.


Technically, 5/11/1605.
 
2008-09-08 03:20:33 PM  
BillyRex: re-elect_jimmy_carter: NEVAR FERGIT!

Yeah real funny farkwad, between the 5th and 6th frame is when my high school friend was vaporized.


fag.
 
2008-09-08 03:20:45 PM  
JesterGirl: CastorTroy: Over Macho Grande?


I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande.



I'm still trying to get beyond Thunderdome...
 
2008-09-08 03:20:53 PM  
No one in this world has forgotten 0.8181...

Hell, I'm originally from Canada. Northern Canada. The remotest backfark part of North America you can get to before you start running into polar bears. Whitehorse, Yukon, a town of 19,000 people. That afternoon the RCAF and some American fighters out of Alaska ended up forcing down Korean Air Flight 85 at Whitehorse International, because it was believed to have been another highjacked flight. They ended up evacuating all government offices - one of which I was working in at the time - and that was okay because the entire morning had the entire office crowding around the radios listening to what was going on in New York, and then crowding around listening to what was going on with Flight 85 and hoping that our little-ass town wasn't about to be wiped off the map because they decided to force that 747 down in Whitehorse instead of any place important, like Anchorage. I ended up spending the rest of the day at home, trying to get ahold of all of my friends in New York and my family in Seoul, to make sure everyone was alright.

No one in this world has forgotten 9/11. Unless you lived in New York or DC during the attacks, or had friends or family who were killed in the attacks - and if you did, I'm sorry, no one deserves to die like that - you have an equal share in that disaster with everyone else on Earth.

And your share, big or small, does not give you the right to hold it over peoples' heads to sell your book, your Government Authorized Non-circulating Liberian Legal Tender September 11th Commemorative $20 Silver Leaf Coin-Certificate, or your moribund political ideology.
 
2008-09-08 03:20:54 PM  
brantgoose: My ex-boss's birthday: September 11.

I can feel for him: I share my birthday with a great historical unnatural disaster.


That would be your birth, right?

/Sorry, it was just hanging out there; I had to.
 
2008-09-08 03:21:01 PM  
farm machine: I was flying to the UK on 9/11. Left on the 10th from the east coast. I made my connection but my luggage didn't. American airspace was closed down and my luggage spent the next 10 days in Philly. I spent it in the UK.

The guy that picked me up at the airport asked me if I heard about things back in the states and my response was pretty much WTF??? When I reached the office I was told that I have to call the wife first thing to let her know I was ok. It was a wierd conversation.

U.S. airspace opened and the flight back was rather empty. Got to Philly to check on my luggage and they informed me that they sent it to the UK that morning. Had them send it back. Bonus was that all my clothes were clean when I got them back. They never left the suitcase.


Don't know if you were trying to be subliminal, but that got me hungry for a Philly Cheese Steak sandwich.
 
2008-09-08 03:21:43 PM  
Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

i'd like to see one of those with close-ups on the faces.
 
2008-09-08 03:21:44 PM  
We all know who really did 9/11:

www.dvdbeaver.com
 
2008-09-08 03:21:50 PM  
Royale With Cheese: Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: Why do people place so much emphasis and sentimentality upon recurring dates? Dates are just a function of the mechanics of our solar system and calendar. It's not like the terrorist attack on that day or any other isolated event is actually cyclical and needs to be remembered every year at a specific time or the universe will end. Why is 9/11/2008 a better day for reflection than any other day of the year, such as 9/12/2008? There's no actual relationship. Has it become so attenuated that you need to be reminded by a mnemonic device inherent in the calendar once each year? Why not remember it every day at 9:12AM if it's so blatantly arbitrary? You know, you don't have to obsess over something on a certain day just because it gets television coverage and everybody around you is doing the same thing. You have a choice to be an individual. Some societal ceremonies are good and some of them are just stupid. If you can detach yourself from the emotional aspects of the events, you may realize that this practice is one of them.

Newsletter?


You probably hate people who get excited at simulposts.
 
2008-09-08 03:21:59 PM  
tricycleracer: Charlie didn't forget.

Link (new window)

/Rock, flag, and eagle.


Charlie is the greatest TV character ever.

/attica, man!
 
2008-09-08 03:22:03 PM  
Wow.
It's really sad to think that I have to share the planet with some of you people.

Lots of people die, some horrid deaths = oh no, we're all sad and angry
7 years later = ha ha I'll show my true nature.

Sullsadog, I and many others agree with you. The sick farks are showing their true colors today.
 
2008-09-08 03:22:05 PM  
Brinnerhosgrannen: Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!


Anything can be funny. See?
 
2008-09-08 03:22:07 PM  
Samsaran: That day was a wake up call to the West that some elements within Islam, not all of Islam by any means, but a large proportion, had declared war on our culture.

The Muslims that are attacking Western culture are very similar to most Farkers: Unemployed, well-educated virgins who live with their parents.

How do we combat this? Get them jobs and get them laid.
 
2008-09-08 03:22:40 PM  
not_an_indigo: bikerdiva: It's my birthday.

Mine too!


9/11 is every true American's birthday. It was the day we were reborn into a new life; a life in which time we will forever be at war fighting for freedom -- well, freedom or some other vague concept the gov't uses to pull the flag over our eyes.

If this is freedom. I don't want to be free.
 
2008-09-08 03:22:42 PM  
Ape Shiat Nuts

I'm still trying to get beyond Thunderdome...

I'm still trying to get that joke.
 
2008-09-08 03:23:03 PM  
Wow...

I don't think I've ever been this disappointed and disgusted with Fark before... and that's saying a lot.

We all know that 9/11 is exploited and abused for ulterior gain, but that doesn't mean you need to be an insensitive jackass to bring that to everyone's attention. You are just as disgusting as the people who use it to push their agenda.

Perhaps one day you will be throwing yourself out of a window and we can laugh about how silly you look with your arms flailing around like crazy. Don't take that personally, though. Its Fark.
 
2008-09-08 03:23:04 PM  
Sullasdog

Thank you for for reminding some of us that not all those who post here are self absorbed assholes who would gladly trade dignity and proper compassion for an irreverent, tasteless joke.

/ imagine going to work on a beautiful fall September morning only to have to be forced to jump out of an 80 story window because that was the better choice than simply burning alive.

// still funny ?

/// RIP ALL
 
2008-09-08 03:23:13 PM  
OldScotch: That day was a wake up call to the West that some elements within Islam, not all of Islam by any means, but a large proportion, had declared war on our culture.

So you're painting the whole Islamic culture with the colour of terrorists?


You should really try and read more carefully.
 
2008-09-08 03:23:26 PM  
simian04: 9/5/1605


Remember,Remember


11/5/1605
i283.photobucket.com
Remember, Remember

/There, that should hold the typo nazis off for a minute.
//Back! Back, nazis!
 
2008-09-08 03:23:35 PM  
A Dark Evil Omen: No one in this world has forgotten 9/11. Unless you lived in New York or DC during the attacks, or had friends or family who were killed in the attacks - and if you did, I'm sorry, no one deserves to die like that - you have an equal share in that disaster with everyone else on Earth.

I remember going to the student union building at Penn State and seeing people frantically trying to call their parents who worked in the WTC.
 
2008-09-08 03:23:43 PM  
Keys: Wow.
It's really sad to think that I have to share the planet with some of you people.

Lots of people die, some horrid deaths = oh no, we're all sad and angry
7 years later = ha ha I'll show my true nature.

Sullsadog, I and many others agree with you. The sick farks are showing their true colors today.


I am sure you wake up every day and shed a tear for those people that were killed while you were asleep too. "Lots of people die, some horrid deaths"
 
2008-09-08 03:24:30 PM  
Sivan Kurzberg will never forget.....
 
2008-09-08 03:24:40 PM  
Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

CANNON BALL!!!!
 
2008-09-08 03:25:05 PM  
9/11 will never be forgotten so long as Americans are willing to sacrifice their civil liberties for the illusion of physical security.

I was horrified by the attack and grieved, but 9/11 brought the US no real understanding of terrorism or how to combat it. What it did was expose the country's cowardice and ineptitude.

I'm glad I left when I did (1994.) Osama Bin Laden is probably laughing.
 
2008-09-08 03:25:16 PM  
studebaker hoch: We all know who really did 9/11:


The first rule of 9/11? Don't talk about 9/11.
 
2008-09-08 03:25:21 PM  
TheNext: very hypocritical, just like both sides.....

Can't we all just agree that Saddam should still be torturing his people, plotting to use WMD (and using them too), invading other countries for profit, blatantly disregarding UN mandates, and letting his sons rape women for pleasure?

The UN did nothing about it. The EU didn't have enough backing to do anything about it (the second time).

America did.

I don't necessarily agree with the time at which we chose to unilaterally bring a brutal dictator down. I do believe it was the right thing to do, being the wealthiest nation in the world.

/back to your regularly schedulding bush bashing and talk of oil oil oil (which is also quite important, I might add)

=============================

Whooooooa there lil' doggie. There were NO, I repeat NO WMDs found in Iraq.

Zilch
Nada
None

So, what are you basing this, "Saddam ignored the sanctions" bullshiat. Did you mean, Saddam didn't expose himself or his counties weaknesses in one of the most volatile regions on Earth?

(Pre-emptive STFU: For anyone taking this as a stament of support for Saddam)

Second, if you're all for the death of any leaders who invade another country for profit, then you should probably be Googling Bush's itinerary and looking for a grassy knoll. Who do you think that $2 Billion/week is going to? Corporations with ties to the administration, that's who.

Third, you can't simultaneously say that the UN sactions matter when it gives you a reason to invade Iraq, but the UNs resolutions do not matter if they're against what you want to do. The UN told us repeatedly that the inspections were working and that violence was not the best immediate option. And, from what WE found in Iraq after taking over the country, we know that they in fact WERE working. Where is the accountability from people like you who alleged we were all gullible and who vowed that you'd be vindicated? I'll tell you what happened. You disingenuous clowns moved the goalposts and now it was all about "removing a dictator" and not about the nukes that he was allegedly going to give to Osama Bin Laden.
 
2008-09-08 03:25:38 PM  
What if, instead of 3.5 planes, they come at us with a 1000 next time?
 
2008-09-08 03:25:44 PM  
I_Love_Cheesecake: Well I use Mac/Linux...:
It's amazing how many people still think that 93 wasn't shot down my our military.

Or how many people still think that an airplane crashed into the Pentagon or that the twin towers came crashing down without the use of explosives.


That's taking it a little far, but I appreciate your sarcasm. Is it wrong to think that fighter jets that were scrambled to intercept 93 before it could reach D.C. might have actually done what they were sent to do?
 
2008-09-08 03:26:08 PM  
suggestivesimon: simian04: 9/5/1605

You mean 11/5/1605?


I think *you* mean 5/11/1605.
 
2008-09-08 03:26:16 PM  
Rye_: If I happen to see that the time in the upper right-hand corner of my computer screen reads 9:10, I'll look away, forbid my eyes to drift there for at least another minute.

A few months after it happened, I was in a store and was rung up $9.11. The lady behind me actually gasped and the cashier stood there staring at me and asked, "Aren't you going to buy something else?", mN
Years ago, when I worked customer service, a woman called up and took ten minutes to explain about how she was a Christian and couldn't possibly have an account number like 00226661213.

People are farking annoying sometimes.


You are cursed, man.
 
2008-09-08 03:26:24 PM  
jaylectricity: Royale With Cheese: Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: Why do people place so much emphasis and sentimentality upon recurring dates? Dates are just a function of the mechanics of our solar system and calendar. It's not like the terrorist attack on that day or any other isolated event is actually cyclical and needs to be remembered every year at a specific time or the universe will end. Why is 9/11/2008 a better day for reflection than any other day of the year, such as 9/12/2008? There's no actual relationship. Has it become so attenuated that you need to be reminded by a mnemonic device inherent in the calendar once each year? Why not remember it every day at 9:12AM if it's so blatantly arbitrary? You know, you don't have to obsess over something on a certain day just because it gets television coverage and everybody around you is doing the same thing. You have a choice to be an individual. Some societal ceremonies are good and some of them are just stupid. If you can detach yourself from the emotional aspects of the events, you may realize that this practice is one of them.

Newsletter?

You probably hate people who get excited at simulposts.


LOL! Not I. Is another on the horizon? That was one of the most delicious wastes of man-hours I've ever had the privilege to be part of.
 
2008-09-08 03:26:31 PM  
Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

img169.imageshack.us
 
2008-09-08 03:26:46 PM  
studebaker hoch: What if, instead of 3.5 planes, they come at us with a 1000 next time?

Then 1,000 of their religious nutbags will die. That can't be all that bad.
 
2008-09-08 03:26:52 PM  
Well I use Mac/Linux...: I_Love_Cheesecake: Well I use Mac/Linux...:
It's amazing how many people still think that 93 wasn't shot down my our military.

Or how many people still think that an airplane crashed into the Pentagon or that the twin towers came crashing down without the use of explosives.

That's taking it a little far, but I appreciate your sarcasm. Is it wrong to think that fighter jets that were scrambled to intercept 93 before it could reach D.C. might have actually done what they were sent to do?


They attempted to and failed though. The intercept failed because no one wanted to make that decision.
 
2008-09-08 03:27:23 PM  
goldencopulations: BillyRex:
Yeah real funny farkwad, between the 5th and 6th frame is when my high school friend was vaporized.

Jeez, they take bowling waaaay to seriously in your neck of the woods.


His widow got remarried about 4 years ago and now his parents hardly ever see his kids anymore. I get the fact that if you never lived in DC or NYC at the time or didn't know anyone that died, but for his parents and brothers, it's just a damn shame. He was a really good kid too.
 
2008-09-08 03:27:43 PM  
When asked, Suzyn Waldman had this to say:

OF ALL THE DRAMATIC THINGS I HAVE EVER SEEN, ROGER CLEMENS IN GEORGE STEINBRENNER'S BOX...ANNOUNCING THAT HE IS BACK!
 
2008-09-08 03:28:09 PM  
Keys: Sullsadog, I and many others agree with you. The sick farks are showing their true colors today.

charkocu: I don't think I've ever been this disappointed and disgusted with Fark before... and that's saying a lot.

SinisterG: Thank you for for reminding some of us that not all those who post here are self absorbed assholes who would gladly trade dignity and proper compassion for an irreverent, tasteless joke.

Remember, everyone: there is only one proper way to grieve, no one is allowed to grieve in their own way. You are no longer allowed to cry at weddings or tell funny stories at funerals. All expressions of emotion must be sanctioned by the above three posters, because everyone is exactly the same.
 
2008-09-08 03:28:20 PM  
Brinnerhosgrannen:

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

I think I actually felt a small part of my soul being torn out and carried off to hell for laughing at that.
 
2008-09-08 03:28:22 PM  
Here's one man who'll never forget 9/11. It's my anniversary--9/11/01 was my 13th. 9/11/01 was also the day we found out my wife was pregnant with our only child. It was quite a roller coaster of a day. I live in Pittsburgh so we had the added bonus of one of the planes going down near here.

/Good thing Bush caught bin Laden and got him to trial so swiftly.
 
2008-09-08 03:28:31 PM  
charkocu: Wow...

I don't think I've ever been this disappointed and disgusted with Fark before... and that's saying a lot.

We all know that 9/11 is exploited and abused for ulterior gain, but that doesn't mean you need to be an insensitive jackass to bring that to everyone's attention. You are just as disgusting as the people who use it to push their agenda.

Perhaps one day you will be throwing yourself out of a window and we can laugh about how silly you look with your arms flailing around like crazy. Don't take that personally, though. Its Fark.


Dude. You, too, are going to die someday. So what? Death is part of life. No need to go get all serious about it and shiat. You can't do nuthin' about it. You may as well have a laugh.
 
2008-09-08 03:28:36 PM  
tweekster

I am sure you wake up every day and shed a tear for those people that were killed while you were asleep too. "Lots of people die, some horrid deaths"


That doesn't mean you should go out of your way to trivialize and mock their deaths.
 
2008-09-08 03:28:47 PM  
I hope the next attack is original.

Last thing we need is a 9/11 vs. Columbine crossover attack because they ran out of new ideas.
 
2008-09-08 03:29:04 PM  
We all know who will not let you forget....unfortunately it's the only way Republicans can TERRORIZE voters into submission.
 
2008-09-08 03:29:09 PM  
Well I use Mac/Linux...: I_Love_Cheesecake: Well I use Mac/Linux...:
It's amazing how many people still think that 93 wasn't shot down my our military.

Or how many people still think that an airplane crashed into the Pentagon or that the twin towers came crashing down without the use of explosives.

That's taking it a little far, but I appreciate your sarcasm. Is it wrong to think that fighter jets that were scrambled to intercept 93 before it could reach D.C. might have actually done what they were sent to do?


is it wrong to think that? of course not.

is it correct? of course not.

should i stop answering my own questions? of course not!
 
2008-09-08 03:29:42 PM  
Well I use Mac/Linux...: I_Love_Cheesecake: Well I use Mac/Linux...:
It's amazing how many people still think that 93 wasn't shot down my our military.

Or how many people still think that an airplane crashed into the Pentagon or that the twin towers came crashing down without the use of explosives.

That's taking it a little far, but I appreciate your sarcasm. Is it wrong to think that fighter jets that were scrambled to intercept 93 before it could reach D.C. might have actually done what they were sent to do?


Hold on. I actually agree with you and think that serious doubts remain about how the towers came down, what actually crashed into the Pentagon and if 93 was shot down (which I think it was).
 
2008-09-08 03:29:45 PM  
Rude Turnip: suggestivesimon: simian04: 9/5/1605

You mean 11/5/1605?

I think *you* mean 5/11/1605.


Oh jesus, NOVEMBER the 5th,1605!
fark, it was supposed to be so simple.
 
2008-09-08 03:29:52 PM  
kabar: TheNext: /back to your regularly schedulding bush bashing and talk of oil oil oil (which is also quite important, I might add)

I've been to Iraq. Seen it from the air and the ground. I'm going back soon. Anyone who says the Iraq war wasn't about oil has never seen that complete and utter shiathole. If there wasn't oil there, no one would care in the least about Iraq and it would be left to its own devices (see: all of Africa).

So please, justify and rationalize it all you like, but oil is the alpha and the omega when it comes to Middle Eastern policy.

/just another dumb jarhead.




Jarhead yes, certainly not dumb.
 
2008-09-08 03:29:53 PM  
GoodyearPimp: I'll never forget the clueless assholes that started calling that afternoon wondering why their internet connection didn't work.

"Well sir, half the telephone exchanges for NY were in the basement of the Trade Center"

I think I got a total of one half-apology. The rest demanded their service be restored and a credit to their account for the lost time.

Window into the soul of real America.


Thats not exactly common knowledge.
 
2008-09-08 03:30:02 PM  
TheNext: very hypocritical, just like both sides.....

Can't we all just agree that Saddam should still be torturing his people, plotting to use WMD (and using them too), invading other countries for profit, blatantly disregarding UN mandates, and letting his sons rape women for pleasure?

The UN did nothing about it. The EU didn't have enough backing to do anything about it (the second time).

America did.


after we helped put him (Saddam) into power in the early 60's . . so the US was responsible for him being there in the first place . .

/FTFY
 
2008-09-08 03:30:04 PM  
Is Fark available in Pakistan?
 
2008-09-08 03:30:05 PM  
I remember Democrats AND Republicans vowing to get revenge over it. I also remember everyone LOVED it when we invaded Afghanistan.

It seems the only thing Democrats remember is to hate Bush no matter what. fark YOU douchebags. Clinton had multiple chances to kill the KNOWN TERRORIST LEADER Bin Laden before 9/11. Talk about that you mother farkers.

I also remember seeing this joke on an awesome comic online, Cyanide and Happiness.
 
2008-09-08 03:30:19 PM  
tweekster: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I_Love_Cheesecake: Well I use Mac/Linux...:
It's amazing how many people still think that 93 wasn't shot down my our military.

Or how many people still think that an airplane crashed into the Pentagon or that the twin towers came crashing down without the use of explosives.

That's taking it a little far, but I appreciate your sarcasm. Is it wrong to think that fighter jets that were scrambled to intercept 93 before it could reach D.C. might have actually done what they were sent to do?

They attempted to and failed though. The intercept failed because no one wanted to make that decision.


Looks like they were pretty succesful to me. How else do you explain debris being found 8 miles away from the crash site?
 
2008-09-08 03:30:21 PM  
Theaetetus: Keys: Sullsadog, I and many others agree with you. The sick farks are showing their true colors today.

charkocu: I don't think I've ever been this disappointed and disgusted with Fark before... and that's saying a lot.

SinisterG: Thank you for for reminding some of us that not all those who post here are self absorbed assholes who would gladly trade dignity and proper compassion for an irreverent, tasteless joke.

Remember, everyone: there is only one proper way to grieve, no one is allowed to grieve in their own way. You are no longer allowed to cry at weddings or tell funny stories at funerals. All expressions of emotion must be sanctioned by the above three posters, because everyone is exactly the same.


*cough*

This
 
2008-09-08 03:30:26 PM  
I will never forget the utter sadness I felt. I knew that thousands were dead and that many more thousands were sure to die in the coming years.

/So it goes.
 
2008-09-08 03:30:37 PM  
orat-on-a-stick: Yeah... They also did Princess Mononoke, The Cat Returns and several others in the same format.

/the not so sad ones


Now I wanna go home and have an anime marathon...but the only anime I own is Perfect Blue...

/not quite the right mood
 
2008-09-08 03:30:44 PM  
wildcardjack: As part of the demolition crew that ensured the towers collapse I celebrate 9/11 with my Illuminati brethren as the highest accomplishment since we took over the leadership of OPEC with the help of the Bilderburgs. We plan on having a 10th anniversary party at Bohemian Grove where we'll pat each other on the back for all our accomplishments over the years.

Uh uh. That 9/11 story isn't Full Retard enough. Here's the story from Sherman Skolnick, a former 70-year-old Chicago nutter in a wheelchair who writes like Greg Palast if he wrote for the National Enquirer. I call the story "Brokeback Bush." Link (new window) I read this just last week and it's still funny to me.

Dubya is ghey (former male cheerleader, right?) and is being blackmailed by the Red Chinese with photographs of him being da ghey with Yalie and Skull & Boner Victor Ashe who was mayor of Knoxville who Dubya later made ambassador of Poland. A Boca Raton ad agency also had revealing photographs and was sent weaponized anthrax via mail killing some guy and shutting the entire company's building and computers down for decontamination for months. The "Arabs" publicized on 9/11 were just US-government paid scapegoats training in Florida (who also were drinking booze and whoring in clubs before 9/11) while the real deal was done by people trying to blackmail the Bushes and US gubment over ghey photographs and Daddy Bush's Iran-contra, October surprise, and business dealings with the Bin Ladens. The Bushes let Osama Bin Laden escape at Tora Bora because if he was caught he would testify about their business dealings together during the last 40 years; OBL escaped Afghanistan/Pakistan and is now hiding in a muslim-dominated province in China. The evidence from the WTC was all trucked and shipped to Chinese underworld thugs.[Skolnick leaves out the massive amounts of gold in the WTC basement ala Die Hard 3 which was what the blackmailers wanted in the first place.]Iraq was invaded because Saddam has secret accounts giving the Bushes billion-dollar kickbacks since Hussein was installed by the CIA. Also, and Skull & Boner John F. Kerry is bisexual and also had da buttsex with Dubya.



/Buttsex?
 
2008-09-08 03:30:47 PM  
Sullasdog:

I'm sorry, but that pic at the left center looks like a guy doing the River Dance upside down.
 
2008-09-08 03:31:05 PM  
Royale With Cheese: LOL! Not I. Is another on the horizon? That was one of the most delicious wastes of man-hours I've ever had the privilege to be part of.

I actually forgot that you were part of the LP simulpost! hahahahaha!
 
2008-09-08 03:31:24 PM  
studebaker hoch: What if, instead of 3.5 planes, they come at us with a 1000 next time?

Won't happen. People on hijacked airliners these days will no longer assume that they're going to make it out alive. Even if they hadn't implemented any of the generally foolhardy security measures after 9/11, we'd never see an attack like that again. Passengers would fight back.

We saw it happen that very day - people on United 93 called their families, who told them what happened, and they decided to go down fighting.
 
2008-09-08 03:31:25 PM  
studebaker hoch: What if, instead of 3.5 planes, they come at us with a 1000 next time?

I don't think we have that many sober pilots.
 
2008-09-08 03:31:50 PM  
Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.


oh stop your whining.

I'm so damn tired of people acting all self-righteous & consedscending because of their "I take 9/11 more serously than you" bullcrap. Get over yourself & keep your misery to yourself. Different people cope in different ways. We can't all go 'round never talking about it & wearing black armbands & never having sex or enjoying ice cream again because a few thousand people died seven years ago.
 
2008-09-08 03:31:54 PM  
re-elect_jimmy_carter: BillyRex: re-elect_jimmy_carter: NEVAR FERGIT!

Yeah real funny farkwad, between the 5th and 6th frame is when my high school friend was vaporized.

fag.


Now that's funny concidering that last time you probably got a piece of pussy was 9/11......
 
2008-09-08 03:32:01 PM  
I_Love_Cheesecake: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I_Love_Cheesecake: Well I use Mac/Linux...:
It's amazing how many people still think that 93 wasn't shot down my our military.

Or how many people still think that an airplane crashed into the Pentagon or that the twin towers came crashing down without the use of explosives.

That's taking it a little far, but I appreciate your sarcasm. Is it wrong to think that fighter jets that were scrambled to intercept 93 before it could reach D.C. might have actually done what they were sent to do?

Hold on. I actually agree with you and think that serious doubts remain about how the towers came down, what actually crashed into the Pentagon and if 93 was shot down (which I think it was).


Hmmm. I don't buy into the "controlled demoliton" and pentagon plane stuff, but I think you have to be blind to not see that 93 was shot down.
 
2008-09-08 03:32:03 PM  
simian04: Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

What. You collect pictures of people jumping to their deaths just so you can slap a guilt trip on somebody who's not as affected by 9/11 like you are? You sick fark. I think you should take a flying leap from a tall building and rid the world of your twisted fetish.

/Now that's funny.


www.danperezstudios.com

leave now, and never come back!

/for real.
/link is sizzlean'
 
2008-09-08 03:32:05 PM  
Royale With Cheese:
Don't know if you were trying to be subliminal, but that got me hungry for a Philly Cheese Steak sandwich.


I was thinking fish and chips when I read that perhaps we could magically combine the two together.
 
2008-09-08 03:32:42 PM  
for two weeks after 9/11 the country seemed nicer. people were more polite, and seemed genuinely concerned about eachother.

then the gubmint had to go and fark it up.
saw the first sign of where they were going to take this when a commercial came on linking marijuana use to terrorism.

Bin Laden unwittingly brought this country together briefly. the boogie-man-mongering tards in washington immediately went back to dividing us with red herring scare tactics to push their military-industrial agenda by linking the War on Drugs™ to the War on Terror™

it all strikes me as odd because I think you have to be on drugs to believe this bullshiat from a government that THRIVES on making sure we're scared.

These are our "protectors"?

Oh, party of Eisenhower where art thou?
 
2008-09-08 03:33:04 PM  
Well I use Mac/Linux...: tweekster: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I_Love_Cheesecake: Well I use Mac/Linux...:
It's amazing how many people still think that 93 wasn't shot down my our military.

Or how many people still think that an airplane crashed into the Pentagon or that the twin towers came crashing down without the use of explosives.

That's taking it a little far, but I appreciate your sarcasm. Is it wrong to think that fighter jets that were scrambled to intercept 93 before it could reach D.C. might have actually done what they were sent to do?

They attempted to and failed though. The intercept failed because no one wanted to make that decision.

Looks like they were pretty succesful to me. How else do you explain debris being found 8 miles away from the crash site?


Contrary to troofer belief that isn't exactly uncommon. There is zero evidence of it being shot down and a lot of evidence to the contrary.

At this point it is willful ignorance.
 
2008-09-08 03:33:07 PM  
No Brass No Ammo: studebaker hoch: What if, instead of 3.5 planes, they come at us with a 1000 next time?

I don't think we have that many sober pilots.


HA!
 
2008-09-08 03:33:22 PM  
We dont have to forget but could we please stop talking about it so much? I hate how 9/11 is the first word out of everyones mouth.
 
2008-09-08 03:33:24 PM  
Theaetetus

Remember, everyone: there is only one proper way to grieve, no one is allowed to grieve in their own way. You are no longer allowed to cry at weddings or tell funny stories at funerals.


Are you that farking stupid? Are you actually saying that posting up pictures that spoof people jumping out of burning buildings and little cartoons of planes crashing into the buildings as a coping mechanism? This isn't "telling funny stories at funerals" about the people you loved. This is mocking the unjust and horrible deaths of thousands of people you never knew, which makes it all the easier and all the more disturbing.

We all grieve differently, but using their deaths as the butt of yet another Fark joke is pathetic.
 
2008-09-08 03:33:50 PM  
toonz: YEAH! NEVER FORGET!!!!!

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

Whoops... Forgot


I don't suppose you can show us where he actually said that? Like the white house briefing transcript? Hint: You are repeating a lie, a misquote. He never said those words in that order.
 
2008-09-08 03:34:01 PM  
jaylectricity: Royale With Cheese: LOL! Not I. Is another on the horizon? That was one of the most delicious wastes of man-hours I've ever had the privilege to be part of.

I actually forgot that you were part of the LP simulpost! hahahahaha!


For sure! Every time I wonder if that was all a dream, I go here:

http://www.fark.com/TopComments.html

and bask in the fruits of our labor.

/who does #2 work for?
 
2008-09-08 03:34:13 PM  
Theaetetus: Remember, everyone: there is only one proper way to grieve, no one is allowed to grieve in their own way. You are no longer allowed to cry at weddings or tell funny stories at funerals. All expressions of emotion must be sanctioned by the above three posters, because everyone is exactly the same.

I can certainly agree with your point here, sir. My family ONLY tells funny stories and fond memories at funerals. My relatives cry at weddings because that's one more girl they won't be getting.
 
2008-09-08 03:34:30 PM  
studebaker hoch: What if, instead of 3.5 planes, they come at us with a 1000 next time?

They won't, though. The TSA have completely solved that problem thanks to the War on Sloshy Things, the War on Pointy Objects, the War on Things That Look Like Weapons, and the War on Shoes.

Thanks to the brave men and women who are willing to sacrifice themselves by rifling through bags of dirty undies, inspecting smelly shoes, staring at dirty stockinged feet, feeling up grannies, and hoisting 4-oz bottle after 4-oz bottle of liquid into bins all day long, we're kept safe from the scourge of Koran-reading beturbaned ululating maniacs, hell bent on hijacking our aircraft because they hate our freedoms.
 
2008-09-08 03:34:31 PM  
The U.S. has yet to recover from those attacks.
 
2008-09-08 03:34:34 PM  
BerardisBiatch: My god that is horrific, I can't even begin to imagine seeing something like that.

As someone who was on the ground one block away, trust me you wouldn't want to see it.

And since there were 10,000 people around me all watching, (trapped between the WTC and the Hudson river) every time another one fell 10,000 people screamed in unison.

Imagine that every 30 seconds or so for 20 minutes. You can close your eyes but not your ears.

I think, in his defense, that was what he was alluding too. I can understand how people who were not personally touched could be cavalier about it -- just like I wouldn't be offended by a joke about Mrs. O'Leary's cow -- but they should at least respect everyone else's right to be touchy about it.
 
2008-09-08 03:35:11 PM  
tweekster
I am sure you wake up every day and shed a tear for those people that were killed while you were asleep too. "Lots of people die, some horrid deaths"

Agreed.
That doesn't make it ok to mock their death does it?
How would you feel if you watched someone you love jump from that building?
Then tell me how you would feel to see so many people making a joke of it?
 
2008-09-08 03:35:14 PM  
GoodyearPimp: I'll never forget the clueless assholes that started calling that afternoon wondering why their internet connection didn't work.

"Well sir, half the telephone exchanges for NY were in the basement of the Trade Center"

I think I got a total of one half-apology. The rest demanded their service be restored and a credit to their account for the lost time.

Window into the soul of real America.


I screamed at a t-mobile person that morning (before anything happened). (i think it as still voicestream at the time). They had farked up my bill. I felt really bad about it later...
My next bill (the bill that included 9/11), had over 400 phone calls to 911 on 9/11. I lived in Austin, I didnt make those calls.
 
2008-09-08 03:35:26 PM  
No Brass No Ammo: studebaker hoch: What if, instead of 3.5 planes, they come at us with a 1000 next time?

I don't think we have that many sober pilots.


No need for sobriety when landing isn't a concern!
 
2008-09-08 03:36:20 PM  
I'll always remember 9/11/01 because it was the day I received my first blowjob. Me and my girlfriend were totally oblvious as to what had happened that morning, as we had skipped school to chill at the river. It was one of the best days of my life, a day full of swimming, relaxing, a picnic and of course experiancing one of Man's Rights of Passage.

But fark me was that day ever ruined when I got back home. Of course no one cared that we cut school, or what we did, or where we were. Everyone was just in that state of shock, especially my mom, being a native New Yorker.

What a farking day.
 
2008-09-08 03:36:39 PM  
AND OMARION??

WHY HAVE YOU PEOPLE FORGOTTEN? PRAY!

/felt it deserved the shouting. It's an important issue
 
2008-09-08 03:36:40 PM  
Well I use Mac/Linux...: Hmmm. I don't buy into the "controlled demoliton" and pentagon plane stuff, but I think you have to be blind to not see that 93 was shot down.

I agree. Passenger jets can be flown by just about anybody these days. If they managed to get control of the cockpit they would have been able to fly the plane.

What would be really tragic would be if they had regained control but the USAF couldn't make contact and shot them down anyway. This would be one reason that they still haven't admitted to it yet.
 
2008-09-08 03:36:46 PM  
Well I use Mac/Linux...: It's amazing how many people still think that 93 wasn't shot down my our military.

What's amazing is how many people do believe that without having a shred of evidence.
 
2008-09-08 03:36:46 PM  
OnmyojiOmn: I was over, done with, and sick of this nonsense about three hours after it happened. My 9/11 memory is of a whiny douchebag in poly sci that morning who announced, teary-eyed, that he didn't "feel like he could be here."

THIS!


It happened. It's over! Move on.
 
2008-09-08 03:36:47 PM  
sub_harmonic: simian04: Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

What. You collect pictures of people jumping to their deaths just so you can slap a guilt trip on somebody who's not as affected by 9/11 like you are? You sick fark. I think you should take a flying leap from a tall building and rid the world of your twisted fetish.

/Now that's funny.



leave now, and never come back!

/for real.
/link is sizzlean'


How cute. But hey, buddy....Golem isn't a troll. He's a pretty cool character though. Gotta love the dualistic personality. So I shall take your picture directed towards me as pretty freakin sweet. Now fark off, farky Mcfarkerton. Go try and piss on someone elses parade :)

/I have my umbrella of escaping!
 
2008-09-08 03:37:06 PM  
schattenteufel: oh stop your whining.

I'm so damn tired of people acting all self-righteous & consedscending because of their "I take 9/11 more serously than you" bullcrap. Get over yourself & keep your misery to yourself. Different people cope in different ways. We can't all go 'round never talking about it & wearing black armbands & never having sex or enjoying ice cream again because a few thousand people died seven years ago.


I didn't find anything self righteous about his post at all. It seemed more to me that he was lashing out at some posters who are engaged in a race to the bottom to tell jokes whose only purpose are to offend and are without taste class or humor.

But hey, this is Fark. Anything goes! (except too many boobies)
 
2008-09-08 03:37:13 PM  
The Black Spy: not_an_indigo: bikerdiva: It's my birthday.

Mine too!

9/11 is every true American's birthday. It was the day we were reborn into a new life; a life in which time we will forever be at war fighting for freedom -- well, freedom or some other vague concept the gov't uses to pull the flag over our eyes.

If this is freedom. I don't want to be free.


not_an_indigo: bikerdiva: It's my birthday.

Mine too!



Its my birthday too!and we were actually born on this day :P
 
2008-09-08 03:37:24 PM  
technocrat: Royale With Cheese:
Don't know if you were trying to be subliminal, but that got me hungry for a Philly Cheese Steak sandwich.

I was thinking fish and chips when I read that perhaps we could magically combine the two together.


That'd be cool, although if I had a chance to do some magic, I might choose to heal Magic Johnson.
 
2008-09-08 03:37:29 PM  
i244.photobucket.com

I think we just found the 20th hijacker.
 
2008-09-08 03:37:33 PM  
Theaetetus:

Remember, everyone: there is only one proper way to grieve, no one is allowed to grieve in their own way. You are no longer allowed to cry at weddings or tell funny stories at funerals. All expressions of emotion must be sanctioned by the above three posters, because everyone is exactly the same.



Oh jesus. I can't wait to hear more about how you've been "greiving" all these years and if you didn't make hilarious jokes about people jumping off buildings or burning to a crisp you'd simply be reduced to a puddle of weeping mush...because tactless jokes that play to the lowest common denominator are the only way you can be convinced to carry on from day to day.

I'm so farking tired of the 'gallows humor' defense on here. It's like a loophole in a tax return. "I can make jokes about anything, any time and if anyone is offended by it, rather than pull back, I'll claim it a "grieving mechanism".

To quote david cross again;

One.

Hundred.

Percent.

Bullshiat.
 
2008-09-08 03:37:37 PM  
charkocu: tweekster

I am sure you wake up every day and shed a tear for those people that were killed while you were asleep too. "Lots of people die, some horrid deaths"

That doesn't mean you should go out of your way to trivialize and mock their deaths.


No, you should take gruesome pictures and post them to Encyclopedia Dramatica's "offended" page.
 
2008-09-08 03:38:18 PM  
charkocu: Are you that farking stupid? Are you actually saying that posting up pictures that spoof people jumping out of burning buildings and little cartoons of planes crashing into the buildings as a coping mechanism? This isn't "telling funny stories at funerals" about the people you loved. This is mocking the unjust and horrible deaths of thousands of people you never knew, which makes it all the easier and all the more disturbing.

Hmm, yes, actually. That's exactly what I'm saying. And yes, for many people, it is "telling funny stories", because this may be a newsflash to you, but many Farkers have relatives and loved ones who were on the planes or in the towers. And people grieve differently. So, please, don't walk around telling people they're wrong for coping in ways that are different than how you'd cope.
 
2008-09-08 03:38:22 PM  
blueskydei: orat-on-a-stick: FuzzyNoNoseChimp: Just because you don't talk about it 24/7, and have a huge friggin memorial every year, doesn't mean people have forgotten. Everyone knows about Pearl Harbor, but we don't friggin bring it up every day, do we?

Grave of the Fireflies

Awesome movie. Made me cry. :(

/a girl
//so it's okay if I'm sappy
///and use smilies :P


That movie made me cry to.

/Man
//Men not supposed to be sappy HAHHHHHH!!
///As if I follow, heh.
 
2008-09-08 03:38:30 PM  
rufus-t-firefly: Royale With Cheese: As someone who was around on 9/11, I'm getting a ki...

Yeah, that's nothing near as stressful as having a view of Logan Airport on the morning of 9/11/01.

Anyone remember what Farker that was?


It bugged me so much that I couldn't remember that I googled it. Finnley Wren was the farker. Still don't know what the thread was. though.
 
2008-09-08 03:38:55 PM  
tweekster: Well I use Mac/Linux...: tweekster: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I_Love_Cheesecake: Well I use Mac/Linux...:
It's amazing how many people still think that 93 wasn't shot down my our military.

Or how many people still think that an airplane crashed into the Pentagon or that the twin towers came crashing down without the use of explosives.

That's taking it a little far, but I appreciate your sarcasm. Is it wrong to think that fighter jets that were scrambled to intercept 93 before it could reach D.C. might have actually done what they were sent to do?

They attempted to and failed though. The intercept failed because no one wanted to make that decision.

Looks like they were pretty succesful to me. How else do you explain debris being found 8 miles away from the crash site?

Contrary to troofer belief that isn't exactly uncommon. There is zero evidence of it being shot down and a lot of evidence to the contrary.

At this point it is willful ignorance.


So it's pretty common for a 1 ton piece of an engine to land over a mile from the crash site, when it was intact when the plane crashed into the ground?
 
2008-09-08 03:39:27 PM  
studebaker hoch

Last thing we need is a 9/11 vs. Columbine crossover attack because they ran out of new ideas.

Are you joking? That would be epic. I picture a charter plane skidding down the road next to a high school, flames coming out the back of it, emo kids leaning out the windows firing rifles in all directions...

OK, I'm probably just a sick fark for thinking that it is funny. But I'm OK with that.
 
2008-09-08 03:39:33 PM  
goldencopulations: BillyRex:
Yeah real funny farkwad, between the 5th and 6th frame is when my high school friend was vaporized.

Jeez, they take bowling waaaay to seriously in your neck of the woods.


i16.photobucket.com
 
2008-09-08 03:39:54 PM  
Keys: tweekster
I am sure you wake up every day and shed a tear for those people that were killed while you were asleep too. "Lots of people die, some horrid deaths"

Agreed.
That doesn't make it ok to mock their death does it?
How would you feel if you watched someone you love jump from that building?
Then tell me how you would feel to see so many people making a joke of it?


I expect you to be in every thread that involves someone dieing with the same righteous indignation. It is wrong to mock their deaths too. 9/11 shouldn't be treated special in that regard.

Plus everyone knows it takes 22 years for something to become funny.
 
2008-09-08 03:40:10 PM  
Inquizition: It happened. It's over! Move on.

Hey while you are at it, do me a favor and straighten out a few of those holocaust survivors, too.

/ don't know why I bothered to flame you, your post says all that needs to be said about you.
 
2008-09-08 03:40:14 PM  
Why should we hear about body bags and deaths, and how many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or that or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's not relevant. So, why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?
 
2008-09-08 03:40:21 PM  
Rye_: Well I use Mac/Linux...: It's amazing how many people still think that 93 wasn't shot down my our military.

What's amazing is how many people do believe that without having a shred of evidence.


How did 93 come down, then?
 
2008-09-08 03:40:29 PM  
Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

I believe I can fly
I believe I can touch the sky
I think about it every night and day
Spread my wings and fly away
I believe I can soar
I see me running through that open door
I believe I can fly
I believe I can fly
I believe I can fly
 
2008-09-08 03:40:33 PM  
A Dark Evil Omen: And your share, big or small, does not give you the right to hold it over peoples' heads to sell your book, your Government Authorized Non-circulating Liberian Legal Tender September 11th Commemorative $20 Silver Leaf Coin-Certificate, or your moribund political ideology.

This This This This This This This This This This This This This This This This This This This This This This This This This This
 
2008-09-08 03:40:35 PM  
Philip J. Fry: I would like to point out this is the first mention of Osama in the thread. Not only do people not care to remember; people don't even want justice anymore.

Why? Did he fly a plane into a building? Or does our intelligence, the one's that said Saddam had WMD, tell you there's good reason to get him?
 
2008-09-08 03:40:40 PM  
amoeba: I'll always remember 9/11/01 because it was the day I received my first blowjob...
But fark me was that day ever ruined when I got back home. Of course no one cared that we cut school, or what we did, or where we were. Everyone was just in that state of shock, especially my mom, being a native New Yorker.


It was god's way of telling you that premarital sex is wrong.

/every time you get a blowjob, someone, somewhere in the world, dies.
 
2008-09-08 03:40:46 PM  
toonz: "The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01

YEAH! NEVER FORGET!!!!!

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

Whoops... Forgot



THIS!
 
2008-09-08 03:40:47 PM  
mesmer242: It bugged me so much that I couldn't remember that I googled it. Finnley Wren was the farker. Still don't know what the thread was. though.

It was another anniversary thread.
 
2008-09-08 03:41:00 PM  
mesmer242: rufus-t-firefly: Royale With Cheese: As someone who was around on 9/11, I'm getting a ki...

Yeah, that's nothing near as stressful as having a view of Logan Airport on the morning of 9/11/01.

Anyone remember what Farker that was?

It bugged me so much that I couldn't remember that I googled it. Finnley Wren was the farker. Still don't know what the thread was. though.


the best i could find on fark was a reference in another thread. it was before 9.21.07 if that narrows it down.
 
2008-09-08 03:41:11 PM  
Samsaran: OldScotch: That day was a wake up call to the West that some elements within Islam, not all of Islam by any means, but a large proportion, had declared war on our culture.

So you're painting the whole Islamic culture with the colour of terrorists?

You should really try and read more carefully.


-

You should try and write more carefully.


No, the Islamic world resents us. They still recall the days of their glory. They still recall the time, centuries ago, when their armies marched in triumph across the face of the Mediterranean world, Byzantium, India, right up to the doors of Vienna. They recall when their physicians, philosophers, scientists, poets and artists were far beyond anything that barbaric Europe could muster. These days are long gone now. They chafe under the knowledge that even with their oil wealth, their culture has stagnated and fallen far behind the West. They, like children, blame us for their failure.

No amount of war, no amount of terror, no amount of savagery will restore their former glory. They must, if they are to survive, cast aside their 14th century shackles and bring Islam and the Islamic world into the community of nations.


Just because you say you're not sterotyping doesn't mean you aren't.
 
2008-09-08 03:41:11 PM  
Both the FBI and the CIA have confirmed reports that there will be another 9/11 this month.
 
2008-09-08 03:41:16 PM  
bikerdiva: It's my birthday.

My birthday is April 16th.

/Sorta know how you feel.
 
2008-09-08 03:41:22 PM  
I can certainly agree with your point here, sir. My family ONLY tells funny stories and fond memories at funerals. My relatives cry at weddings because that's one more girl they won't be getting.

So your relatives cry when some female family member gets married because they won't 'get her'? Jesus man, if you're going to keep it in the family,fine. But keep that to yourself.

/rimshot
 
2008-09-08 03:41:29 PM  
The jumpers ... why did they commit suicide?
 
2008-09-08 03:42:03 PM  
simian04: Rude Turnip: suggestivesimon: simian04: 9/5/1605

You mean 11/5/1605?

I think *you* mean 5/11/1605.

Oh jesus, NOVEMBER the 5th,1605!
fark, it was supposed to be so simple.


"Remember, remember November the 5th"?

Doesn't quite have she same ring to it. Over here in post-apocalyptic, fascist England we use DD/MM/YYYY for our dates.
 
2008-09-08 03:42:09 PM  
Theaetetus: amoeba: I'll always remember 9/11/01 because it was the day I received my first blowjob...
But fark me was that day ever ruined when I got back home. Of course no one cared that we cut school, or what we did, or where we were. Everyone was just in that state of shock, especially my mom, being a native New Yorker.

It was god's way of telling you that premarital sex is wrong.

/every time you get a blowjob, someone, somewhere in the world, dies.




HAHAHAHAHAHA. Almost fell out of my chair laughing
 
2008-09-08 03:42:28 PM  
i2.photobucket.com
 
2008-09-08 03:42:33 PM  
fatgail: I'm so farking tired of the 'gallows humor' defense on here. It's like a loophole in a tax return. "I can make jokes about anything, any time and if anyone is offended by it, rather than pull back, I'll claim it a "grieving mechanism".

There's a built-in function on your computer that will instantly solve this problem for you... You have to press the fourth function key (it's in a row along the top, just start counting from the left) while simultaneously holding down the "alt" key in the lower left corner of the keyboard.
Try it, we'll wait.
 
2008-09-08 03:42:45 PM  
studebaker hoch: Both the FBI and the CIA have confirmed reports that there will be another 9/11 this month.

/Yawn.

Been there, done that. Give me a 10/18 and you might really catch my attention.
 
2008-09-08 03:42:58 PM  
Epiphany: It seems the only thing Democrats remember is to hate Bush no matter what. fark YOU douchebags. Clinton had multiple chances to kill the KNOWN TERRORIST LEADER Bin Laden before 9/11.

Clinton made multiple attempts to kill Bin Laden, and came remarkably close. Of course, when a cruise missile attack just barely missed killing the sumbiatch the Rightards flipped out that it was all an attempt to distract from the Real Issue: blowjobs. Ditto when he annihilated the last traces of Saddam's WMD programs.
 
2008-09-08 03:42:59 PM  
Podna: Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

CANNON BALL!!!!


Window seat, please.
 
2008-09-08 03:43:04 PM  
Well I use Mac/Linux...: So it's pretty common for a 1 ton piece of an engine to land over a mile from the crash site, when it was intact when the plane crashed into the ground?

Yes actually. Planes that crash into the ground will often have debris spread for miles. Debris fields are not localized. This is a common occurrence and a rather simple fact of life that people like you actively choose to ignore.
 
2008-09-08 03:43:44 PM  
DslainteC: All I know is that if Tom Brady is gone for the season this Thursday is going to be a very sad Patriot's Day. Who could ever forget the day they saw that towering QB collapse to the ground?

Sept 7, 2008 was a great day for my fantasy team. Not only was I playing against a team with Tom Brady, but I picked up Brady's backup!

I would be unstoppable except I picked up Brett Favre instead of Michael Turner.
 
2008-09-08 03:43:47 PM  
Rye_: Well I use Mac/Linux...: It's amazing how many people still think that 93 wasn't shot down my our military.

What's amazing is how many people do believe that without having a shred of evidence.


Like the guy who called 911 from the plane a minute before the crash and said there was an explosion and the plane was smoking?
 
2008-09-08 03:43:51 PM  
Samsaran: Many of us, not then born, remember Pearl Harbor. I will remember 9/11 for the rest of my life.

That day was a wake up call to the West that some elements within Islam, not all of Islam by any means, but a large proportion, had declared war on our culture. This war continues. It is not something "made up" by the Republicans, it is not just a few wild eyed crazies in the caves of Afghanistan. No, the Islamic world resents us. They still recall the days of their glory. They still recall the time, centuries ago, when their armies marched in triumph across the face of the Mediterranean world, Byzantium, India, right up to the doors of Vienna. They recall when their physicians, philosophers, scientists, poets and artists were far beyond anything that barbaric Europe could muster. These days are long gone now. They chafe under the knowledge that even with their oil wealth, their culture has stagnated and fallen far behind the West. They, like children, blame us for their failure.

No amount of war, no amount of terror, no amount of savagery will restore their former glory. They must, if they are to survive, cast aside their 14th century shackles and bring Islam and the Islamic world into the community of natio, we shiat everywhere else also.ns.


You hit the nail on the head there, brother.
Unfortunately, a lot of westerners are of the same mind, albeit differently. I mean, no longer is the the US heralded as the greatest in anything, really (as far as I reckon, anyway.)
 
2008-09-08 03:44:00 PM  
A Dark Evil Omen

And your share, big or small, does not give you the right to hold it over peoples' heads to sell your book, your Government Authorized Non-circulating Liberian Legal Tender September 11th Commemorative $20 Silver Leaf Coin-Certificate, or your moribund political ideology.

Ah yes, this thing:

www.nationalcollectorsmint.com

You could actually make the towers fall down, over and over again.

/Hours of fun for the whole family!
 
2008-09-08 03:44:21 PM  
Theaetetus: fatgail: I'm so farking tired of the 'gallows humor' defense on here. It's like a loophole in a tax return. "I can make jokes about anything, any time and if anyone is offended by it, rather than pull back, I'll claim it a "grieving mechanism".

There's a built-in function on your computer that will instantly solve this problem for you... You have to press the fourth function key (it's in a row along the top, just start counting from the left) while simultaneously holding down the "alt" key in the lower left corner of the keyboard.
Try it, we'll wait.


Oh you're cute. Do you come with the 'Waaaaaaah'? Or is it a seperate accessory?
 
2008-09-08 03:44:21 PM  
jaylectricity: Royale With Cheese: Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: Why do people place so much emphasis and sentimentality upon recurring dates? Dates are just a function of the mechanics of our solar system and calendar. It's not like the terrorist attack on that day or any other isolated event is actually cyclical and needs to be remembered every year at a specific time or the universe will end. Why is 9/11/2008 a better day for reflection than any other day of the year, such as 9/12/2008? There's no actual relationship. Has it become so attenuated that you need to be reminded by a mnemonic device inherent in the calendar once each year? Why not remember it every day at 9:12AM if it's so blatantly arbitrary? You know, you don't have to obsess over something on a certain day just because it gets television coverage and everybody around you is doing the same thing. You have a choice to be an individual. Some societal ceremonies are good and some of them are just stupid. If you can detach yourself from the emotional aspects of the events, you may realize that this practice is one of them.

Newsletter?

You probably hate people who get excited at simulposts.


Farking. hilarious.
 
2008-09-08 03:44:28 PM  
America Goes To War (new window)
 
2008-09-08 03:44:31 PM  
The Black Spy: The jumpers ... why did they commit suicide?

AFAIK there is no consensus, but there was incredible heat, smoke and lack of oxygen, and they could not escape. People were hanging out of the north side of the north tower minutes after impact #1, and they either passed out from lack of air, or were forced to make a horrible, horrible choice of how to go.
 
2008-09-08 03:44:40 PM  
Samsaran: Many of us, not then born, remember Pearl Harbor. I will remember 9/11 for the rest of my life.

That day was a wake up call to the West that some elements within Islam, not all of Islam by any means, but a large proportion, had declared war on our culture. This war continues. It is not something "made up" by the Republicans, it is not just a few wild eyed crazies in the caves of Afghanistan. No, the Islamic world resents us. They still recall the days of their glory. They still recall the time, centuries ago, when their armies marched in triumph across the face of the Mediterranean world, Byzantium, India, right up to the doors of Vienna. They recall when their physicians, philosophers, scientists, poets and artists were far beyond anything that barbaric Europe could muster. These days are long gone now. They chafe under the knowledge that even with their oil wealth, their culture has stagnated and fallen far behind the West. They, like children, blame us for their failure.

No amount of war, no amount of terror, no amount of savagery will restore their former glory. They must, if they are to survive, cast aside their 14th century shackles and bring Islam and the Islamic world into the community of nations.


Several thousand crazies does not make a war. Not in modern times, not with a military like the US has. Your post is blind rhetoric, generalization of an entire unstable region into a statement that creates an "us vs them" mentality. How could anyone from the west understand and relate to Islamic extremists? Personally I don't think most religious fanatics become terrorists because of jealousy. I think they act out of anger because others do not see their religion as correct and also out of delusions of gradeur spurred on by religious texts. They are told Islam above all, and they believe that. Scholarship, science, art, etc... doesn't seem to be the emphasis of the average terrorist from the Mid-East.
 
2008-09-08 03:45:00 PM  
MrCheeks: bikerdiva: It's my birthday.

My birthday is April 16th.


My birthday is October 30th so I know exactly how you feel.
 
2008-09-08 03:45:14 PM  
There is much to admire about the culture of Islam. We must remember that the Islamic world is not monolithic. Indonesia is as different from Yemen as Armenia is from Britain.

Arabic culture, which through religion and language is a major influence even on Farsi speaking Iran or Urdu speaking Pakistan. It is a culture where, and I know this surprises many Americans, hospitality to the stranger is a cultural mainstay. It is a culture where giving to the poor is something that every devout Muslim does on a regular basis. The Arabic language is incredibly beautiful, both in its poetic imagery and in its written form.

Arabs and other Arabic speakers often have a keen sense of history and I have sat in coffee houses drinking sweet strong coffee and listened to stories of Saladin and Richard the Lion Heart which have been passed down for hundreds of years.

I have read the poems of Rumi where the love of a woman is compared to the love of an eternal God in language of such exquisite beauty that even the hardest heart would be moved.

I have read the philosophy of Mulla Sadra and Shahab al-Din Suhrawardi, so unknown in the West but of great influence on Western thought from Spinoza to Heidegger.

Most of all I have read the words of the Prophet himself, so different from the idea that most Westerners have about the Koran. Mohamed had hoped that the "people of the book" would be united by his revelation instead of divided.

In the last era of clash between Islam and the West, we were the pupils and they the teachers, we took from them mathematics, medicine, architecture and even the idea of romantic love. Now we are the teachers and they the pupils. The question now remains ... what will they learn from us?
 
2008-09-08 03:45:34 PM  
SinisterG: Sullasdog

Thank you for for reminding some of us that not all those who post here are self absorbed assholes who would gladly trade dignity and proper compassion for an irreverent, tasteless joke.

/ imagine going to work on a beautiful fall September morning only to have to be forced to jump out of an 80 story window because that was the better choice than simply burning alive.


if you could somehow get over the fear of death really quickly, an 80 story dive would be pretty fun.
 
2008-09-08 03:45:40 PM  
Theaetetus: There's a built-in function on your computer that will instantly solve this problem for you... You have to press the fourth function key (it's in a row along the top, just start counting from the left) while simultaneously holding down the "alt" key in the lower left corner of the keyboard.
Try it, we'll wait.


So "Love it or leave it" is OK for Fark but not the USA?
 
2008-09-08 03:46:00 PM  
You could actually make the towers fall down, over and over again.

/Hours of fun for the whole family!


_\m/
 
2008-09-08 03:46:25 PM  
tweekster
I expect you to be in every thread that involves someone dieing with the same righteous indignation. It is wrong to mock their deaths too. 9/11 shouldn't be treated special in that regard.

Plus everyone knows it takes 22 years for something to become funny.


You're right.
You win.

Thank you for showing me how rediculous I was being.
 
2008-09-08 03:46:31 PM  
Theaetetus

because this may be a newsflash to you, but many Farkers have relatives and loved ones who were on the planes or in the towers.


They aren't the ones making fools of themselves and posting in jest. Show me some Farkers that lost close loved ones on 9/11 that can laugh about it now. Could you?

Nobody is arguing that people cope differently. We already established that, cupcake. Laughing and making jest about thousands of innocent lives lost that you never knew personally is not coping, it is merely being an asshole for all to see.

Do you really think that the people who laugh about the lives lost feel compassion for the people they use as the punchline to their joke? Only an asshole like yourself would defend another.
 
2008-09-08 03:46:32 PM  
Quote 2008-09-08 03:19:28 PM
Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

My god that is horrific, I can't even begin to imagine seeing something like that.


My first thought is of the Spiderman picture, 'how do I shot web?'..

And yes, it IS funny.
 
2008-09-08 03:46:39 PM  
Epiphany: I remember Democrats AND Republicans vowing to get revenge over it. I also remember everyone LOVED it when we invaded Afghanistan.

It seems the only thing Democrats remember is to hate Bush no matter what. fark YOU douchebags. Clinton had multiple chances to kill the KNOWN TERRORIST LEADER Bin Laden before 9/11. Talk about that you mother farkers.

I also remember seeing this joke on an awesome comic online, Cyanide and Happiness.

=================================

What YOU fail to realize (and 80% of the country now knows) is that Bush played on that emotion to get people who normally would not support warfare to go along with his* plan to invade Iraq.

What you idiots try to forget is that this man once had an 80% approval rating. So, STFU once and for all actng like the "liberal" hatred of Bush is somehow irrational. Mutherfarker, there are people dying RIGHT NOW because of his lies and bullshiat. Its funny how the party of personal responsibility can never seem to own up to their own failures.

"Waaaaah, people hate Bush for no reason".

*people list reasons*

"Oh, well he's 'the decider'. He doesn't care about polls."

*Bush is a figurehead.
 
2008-09-08 03:46:41 PM  
toonz: then the gubmint had to go and fark it up.
saw the first sign of where they were going to take this when a commercial came on linking marijuana use to terrorism.


Yeah, no shiat...I remember that too.

charkocu: Are you that farking stupid? Are you actually saying that posting up pictures that spoof people jumping out of burning buildings and little cartoons of planes crashing into the buildings as a coping mechanism? This isn't "telling funny stories at funerals" about the people you loved. This is mocking the unjust and horrible deaths of thousands of people you never knew, which makes it all the easier and all the more disturbing.

We all grieve differently, but using their deaths as the butt of yet another Fark joke is pathetic.


I'm going to stick up for Theaetetus here. My mother used to tell me that some of the funniest people in the word are often the saddest. Some people cope with negative events by making light of them.

Royale With Cheese: For sure! Every time I wonder if that was all a dream, I go here:

Obviously that one had a lot of exposure...they're not all like that. Here's the direct link to the simulpost: Link goes to my post which was the first directly following our target. (new window)
 
2008-09-08 03:46:42 PM  
Well I use Mac/Linux...: tweekster: Well I use Mac/Linux...: tweekster: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I_Love_Cheesecake: Well I use Mac/Linux...:
It's amazing how many people still think that 93 wasn't shot down my our military.

Or how many people still think that an airplane crashed into the Pentagon or that the twin towers came crashing down without the use of explosives.

That's taking it a little far, but I appreciate your sarcasm. Is it wrong to think that fighter jets that were scrambled to intercept 93 before it could reach D.C. might have actually done what they were sent to do?

They attempted to and failed though. The intercept failed because no one wanted to make that decision.

Looks like they were pretty succesful to me. How else do you explain debris being found 8 miles away from the crash site?

Contrary to troofer belief that isn't exactly uncommon. There is zero evidence of it being shot down and a lot of evidence to the contrary.

At this point it is willful ignorance.

So it's pretty common for a 1 ton piece of an engine to land over a mile from the crash site, when it was intact when the plane crashed into the ground?


Well if the plane fell straight down and wasn't going forward at all then you would have a case but I think that forward motion of an object going kinda fast would make things keep going after the point of impact.. I am not a science teacher though.
 
2008-09-08 03:46:57 PM  
Theaetetus:
Hmm, yes, actually. That's exactly what I'm saying. And yes, for many people, it is "telling funny stories", because this may be a newsflash to you, but many Farkers have relatives and loved ones who were on the planes or in the towers. And people grieve differently. So, please, don't walk around telling people they're wrong for coping in ways that are different than how you'd cope.



Except, unless the people jumping out of the buildings were YOUR family, it's more like going to someone else's funeral, where everyone is greiving in the "stupid and crazy way" of crying, and telling jokes about the family member in the casket.

I don't talk much about 9/11. I don't forget it, I don't cry about it, it just IS; but I just don't see the point in competing for 'most offensive joke possible', particularly around the anniversary when a shiatload of people are greiving the loss of folks that meant a lot more to them than frames on t.v.
 
2008-09-08 03:47:23 PM  
The best song about 9/11 I've ever heard was Sage Francis: Makeshift Patriot.

It was recorded in the weeks following 9/11. It rings crazily true for its time. The New York Times did a story about all the 9/11 songs, and said they were all garbage and commercialism, but praised Sage Francis. Here are a few of the lyrics, followed by a link to the song.

Talking about the media coverage:

"I've got exclusive, explicit images,
to present to impressionable American kids,
and it's time to show this world how big our edifice is.
That's exactly what they attacked,
when the typically dark-skinned disney villain,
used civilian against civilian,
and charged these trojan horses into our building"

"All the hospitals are overwhelmed,
volunteers go the hell home,
moments of silence for firefighters were interrupted by cellphones."

"We taught that dog to squat, how dare he do that shiat in our own backyard"

check it out, its amazing lyrics. I disagree with some of it, but theres no denying this song. Heres a video about it, I didn't watch it because of all the anti-bush, but the song is there and great.


Link (new window)
 
2008-09-08 03:47:39 PM  
This isn't honoring anyone. It isn't making anyone safer. It isn't making anyone stronger. It isn't defending America. It's talking ourselves into a traumatized state. Why? Why do we want to give ourselves as a culture and a nation a collective case of PTSD?

We're not only letting the terrorists determine our national feeling and national course, we're helping them do it.
 
2008-09-08 03:47:59 PM  
The Dynamite Monkey: The Black Spy: The jumpers ... why did they commit suicide?

AFAIK there is no consensus, but there was incredible heat, smoke and lack of oxygen, and they could not escape. People were hanging out of the north side of the north tower minutes after impact #1, and they either passed out from lack of air, or were forced to make a horrible, horrible choice of how to go.


Given the choices, I too would rather jump than burn alive.
 
2008-09-08 03:48:05 PM  
mesmer242: It bugged me so much that I couldn't remember that I googled it. Finnley Wren was the farker. Still don't know what the thread was. though.

I think it was the thread about the horrific lite brite attack on Boston.
 
2008-09-08 03:48:15 PM  
LandOfChocolate: So "Love it or leave it" is OK for Fark but not the USA?

No, you're right. A website is much like someone's birth place. I completely retract my suggestion that people may choose to be here.
 
2008-09-08 03:48:18 PM  
fatgail: Oh jesus. I can't wait to hear more about how you've been "greiving" all these years and if you didn't make hilarious jokes about people jumping off buildings or burning to a crisp you'd simply be reduced to a puddle of weeping mush...because tactless jokes that play to the lowest common denominator are the only way you can be convinced to carry on from day to day.

I'm so farking tired of the 'gallows humor' defense on here. It's like a loophole in a tax return. "I can make jokes about anything, any time and if anyone is offended by it, rather than pull back, I'll claim it a "grieving mechanism".


Attention Farkers, Miss Manners would like a word with you. Obviously many of you have been doing it wrong and are in need of some lessons.

For only $15.99 + $8.98 S&H you can order her book on etiquette and proper protocol for social situations. But wait, there's more. For a limited time Miss Manners will personally autograph your treasured volume for an additional $5.00.

If you order now she'll even throw in her officially licensed grieving towel at no extra cost. That's the book, the autograph and the grieving towel all for 3 easy payments of $9.99. Operators are standing by.
 
2008-09-08 03:48:22 PM  
Theaetetus:

There's a built-in function on your computer that will instantly solve this problem for you... You have to press the fourth function key (it's in a row along the top, just start counting from the left) while simultaneously holding down the "alt" key in the lower left corner of the keyboard.

I count four keys over from the left, but only end up on 'F3'.

Is my computer broken?
 
2008-09-08 03:48:22 PM  
charkocu: Perhaps one day you will be throwing yourself out of a window and we can laugh about how silly you look with your arms flailing around like crazy. Don't take that personally, though. Its Fark.

I'll be the guy doing the cannonball.
 
2008-09-08 03:48:23 PM  
PH Neutral: What I'll never forget is how my ex-girlfriend complained that no one remembered her birthday (9/12) because of it, and she thought that was shiatty.

Man. How did you do that. You move like the agents do. I've never seen anyone move that fast.

I couldn't even get a 'spidey sense' was tingling with mine, until after it would cost me a lot of money.
 
2008-09-08 03:48:51 PM  
LandOfChocolate: Theaetetus: There's a built-in function on your computer that will instantly solve this problem for you... You have to press the fourth function key (it's in a row along the top, just start counting from the left) while simultaneously holding down the "alt" key in the lower left corner of the keyboard.
Try it, we'll wait.

So "Love it or leave it" is OK for Fark but not the USA?


Sure it is - If you don't love the freedom of speech we have here, then try a little travelling.

/try China on for size.
 
2008-09-08 03:48:55 PM  
9/11 was an inside job.

\\That is all.
 
2008-09-08 03:48:59 PM  
djh0101010: toonz: YEAH! NEVER FORGET!!!!!

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

Whoops... Forgot

I don't suppose you can show us where he actually said that? Like the white house briefing transcript? Hint: You are repeating a lie, a misquote. He never said those words in that order.



well sometimes you have to catapult the propaganda (new window), oh champion of truthiness.

but to be fair, the actual quote is here:
white house press release (new window)

When responding to a question of Bin laden's whereabouts he basically says "who cares?" I think his reasoning surrounding that in the quote is plausible, in terms of the big picture, but it IS a reversal on his stance to "GET" those responsible.

now could you dig up all the intelligence on yellow cake and WMD's that your beer-buddy Prez used to propel us into a useless war in Iraq? Since your ilk seems all into "Truth" and "Change" now.
 
2008-09-08 03:49:00 PM  
tweekster: Well I use Mac/Linux...: So it's pretty common for a 1 ton piece of an engine to land over a mile from the crash site, when it was intact when the plane crashed into the ground?

Yes actually. Planes that crash into the ground will often have debris spread for miles. Debris fields are not localized. This is a common occurrence and a rather simple fact of life that people like you actively choose to ignore.


I'm sorry, you're obviously right. I'm sure you know more about these things than the investigators who initially claimed that there was no way for debris to travel 8 miles away, especially over a mountain ridge.
 
2008-09-08 03:49:07 PM  
TheKnownUniverse: Robert1966: I took this one myself.

I feel bad for laughing that it is hosted on ICHC.


Yeah, that's the only place to host images that I'm a member of. I don't post a lot of photos! A larger image may be viewable there.
 
2008-09-08 03:49:23 PM  
never frigid,

never refrigerate

never regurgitate

never mastu....

//wate wut?
 
2008-09-08 03:49:52 PM  
djh0101010: toonz: YEAH! NEVER FORGET!!!!!

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

Whoops... Forgot

I don't suppose you can show us where he actually said that? Like the white house briefing transcript? Hint: You are repeating a lie, a misquote. He never said those words in that order.


about.com (new window)
Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002
 
2008-09-08 03:50:10 PM  
Nestea Plunge

Horrible things happen in Africa every day, I don't se what makes you so farking special.


Indeed. Where is the picture of the starving child crawling in the dirt with a vulture waiting nearby? I think a few Farkers could come up with some really funny, clever captions.
 
2008-09-08 03:50:10 PM  
It's a sad day yes, but is annoying is that people criticize others for not showing respect yet 9/11 has been turned into a commercial and political freakshow.

Coins, hats, crying eagles superimposed over a flag. Shirts, cards, keychains, and sparkly computer graphics with angels. Corny poems, songs questioning patriotism, finger pointing at fellow citizens, reasons for unjust wars, and racism. Election ads, 24 hour news coverage weeks in advance, documentaries, and movies.

All deliberately done to manipulate and squeeze every last ounce of emotion from people.

That is what people are tired of.
 
2008-09-08 03:50:15 PM  
Epiphany: Clinton had multiple chances to kill the KNOWN TERRORIST LEADER Bin Laden before 9/11. Talk about that you mother farkers.

Yeah, I think I even remember Dan Rather having an interview with him. And he was armed with a pen! He could have eyeballed that mof and stopped all this bullshiat. fark you Dan Rather!
 
2008-09-08 03:50:16 PM  
Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

According to your profile, you've been a Farker since January. How do you not get how this works by now?

Fark is the place where anything can be funny. ANYTHING. This doesn't mean "anything except that horribly tragic thing that changed everyone's life and killed lots of people." It means ANYTHING. This is the way things are here. If there are things that offend you, you WILL encounter them on Fark, and no one will apologize for it. There are places where it's not acceptable to laugh at tragedy. The largest of these is called "real life." If you are offended by the concept, you might want to hang out in one of those places instead of Fark.
 
2008-09-08 03:50:20 PM  
I_Love_Cheesecake: Rye_: Well I use Mac/Linux...: It's amazing how many people still think that 93 wasn't shot down my our military.

What's amazing is how many people do believe that without having a shred of evidence.

How did 93 come down, then?


I have no idea. Maybe it happened they way they say it did, maybe the military shot it down, or maybe something happened that you haven't even thought of yet. I don't know and you don't know.

I do know that conspiracy theories are fun to believe in, but you can't expect a reasonable person to believe something that important simply because they read it on the internet. You're a fool if you do.
 
2008-09-08 03:50:21 PM  
dstanley: goldencopulations: BillyRex:
Yeah real funny farkwad, between the 5th and 6th frame is when my high school friend was vaporized.

Jeez, they take bowling waaaay to seriously in your neck of the woods.


should have said, "No anchovies, please"
 
2008-09-08 03:50:44 PM  
Oh, and can we get some black gospel singers in here? Apparently a nation cannot properly grieve without a contingent of black gospel singers.
 
2008-09-08 03:50:50 PM  
TheNext: The people post pics are so.... trying to brush up on their PS skills.

Haven't considered hitting the ignore button until.....BetterThomas: Well you never 9/11 the 9/11's 9/11ing 9/11 9/11!

9/11!

/I'd splash some vitamins on your brain if you could possibly grow one

//Hello JD (don't confuse that with GW)


OK, I guess you didn't recognize that as the "Rudy Giuliani in a dress pic" Here's a link: non-photoshopped (new window)
Also, the caption was referring to the now infamous tag-line of "A noun, a verb, and 9/11" that Biden said in the debates about Giuliani.
 
2008-09-08 03:51:03 PM  
This tard gives douchetards a bad name.
 
2008-09-08 03:51:13 PM  
Well I use Mac/Linux...: tweekster: Well I use Mac/Linux...: So it's pretty common for a 1 ton piece of an engine to land over a mile from the crash site, when it was intact when the plane crashed into the ground?

Yes actually. Planes that crash into the ground will often have debris spread for miles. Debris fields are not localized. This is a common occurrence and a rather simple fact of life that people like you actively choose to ignore.

I'm sorry, you're obviously right. I'm sure you know more about these things than the investigators who initially claimed that there was no way for debris to travel 8 miles away, especially over a mountain ridge.


Yes initial reports are always the most reliable.
You probably have a lot of faith in eye witness testimony too.

Conspiracy, where a lack of evidence is considered evidence!
 
2008-09-08 03:51:29 PM  
Philip J. Fry: Robert1966: I took this one myself.

Is that one frame of a video or just a chance snapshot?


A chance snapshot. I had picked up a disposable camera after the first plane hit (which I didn't see directly) and we all thought it had been an accident. Then I got bored because it was all versions of the same shot: building, smoke, etc. So while I was watching the other one came. It was entirely chance that I got this shot. I didn't even know I had it until a month later, when I developed the film. There had been so many images by then that I really wasn't looking forward to seeing mine. And there it was.
 
2008-09-08 03:52:02 PM  
philotech: 9/11 was an inside job.

\\That is all.


Okay fair enough, by who, the Shadow Government?
 
2008-09-08 03:52:13 PM  
Samsaran:

I have read the poems of Rumi where the love of a woman is compared to the love of an eternal God in language of such exquisite beauty that even the hardest heart would be moved.

I have read the philosophy of Mulla Sadra and Shahab al-Din Suhrawardi, so unknown in the West but of great influence on Western thought from Spinoza to Heidegger.

Most of all I have read the words of the Prophet himself, so different from the idea that most Westerners have about the Koran. Mohamed had hoped that the "people of the book" would be united by his revelation instead of divided.


Have you eaten of the delicate flakes frosted by the Grrrrrrreat Tony, the neckerchiefed Tiger Prince?
 
2008-09-08 03:52:18 PM  
as a Canadian I'm probably not entitled to say anything here but after reading most of the posts, well - ugh, I think I need a shower ... which I will do ... at the gym ... in 26 minutes.

/my name is not Francis
//I'm actually already quite light
///had me at Hogan, lost me after that
 
2008-09-08 03:52:47 PM  
img133.imageshack.us
 
2008-09-08 03:52:53 PM  
philotech: 9/11 was an inside job.

\\That is all.


Well inside the planes.. yeah. Then those planes went inside the buildings.. YOU ARE RIGHT!!
 
2008-09-08 03:52:53 PM  
bikerdiva: It's my birthday.

I imagine cutting the pentagon-shaped cake must be awkward.
 
2008-09-08 03:53:00 PM  
Brown Sauce: I'll never forget how it brought us together, and how that was
exploited by Bush, which caused us to be more divided than ever.


are you kidding? i hope that one man you have never met does not really impact how you interact with your actual society.
 
2008-09-08 03:53:09 PM  
MonkeyAngst: Fark is the place where anything can be funny. ANYTHING. This doesn't mean "anything except that horribly tragic thing that changed everyone's life and killed lots of people." It means ANYTHING. This is the way things are here. If there are things that offend you, you WILL encounter them on Fark, and no one will apologize for it.

Yes, you are 100% correct. And Fark is ALSO the place where people will get called douchebags for acting like douchebags, and no one will apologize for it.

If you are offended by the concept, you might want jam it up your ass on fire.
 
2008-09-08 03:53:09 PM  
jaylectricity:

Royale With Cheese: For sure! Every time I wonder if that was all a dream, I go here:

Obviously that one had a lot of exposure...they're not all like that. Here's the direct link to the simulpost: Link goes to my post which was the first directly following our target. (new window)


Whoops! I went back to full-thread display after that was over. Almost crashed this 'puter!
 
2008-09-08 03:53:25 PM  
Theaetetus:
There's a built-in function on your computer that will instantly solve this problem for you... You have to press the fourth function key (it's in a row along the top, just start counting from the left) while simultaneously holding down the "alt" key in the lower left corner of the keyboard.
Try it, we'll wait.



Waaaaaah! Someone called me on my bullshiat! Waaaaah! The key here is, I don't have to be personally offended by something to see that it's tactless.

Maybe someday, when you're done "fighting the man", you'll learn to value people's feelings and input. It becomes helpful as you grow up.
 
2008-09-08 03:53:30 PM  
charkocu: They aren't the ones making fools of themselves and posting in jest. Show me some Farkers that lost close loved ones on 9/11 that can laugh about it now. Could you?

There are several, whether you believe it or not. Frankly, I suspect that you'd just say I was lying.

Only an asshole like yourself would defend another.

Wait, you seriously mean to say that only an asshole like me would defend people who deal with grief this way? I'm honestly not that hurt by that statement.

fatgail: Except, unless the people jumping out of the buildings were YOUR family, it's more like going to someone else's funeral, where everyone is greiving in the "stupid and crazy way" of crying, and telling jokes about the family member in the casket.

Actually, the guy who posted the snuff-film pictures of people jumping out the windows is a guy from North Carolina (who has apparently left the thread) and he was doing it to criticize others for making jokes. I think that's an even more disgusting use of emotional material.
 
2008-09-08 03:54:04 PM  
DROxINxTHExWIND: Epiphany: I remember Democrats AND Republicans vowing to get revenge over it. I also remember everyone LOVED it when we invaded Afghanistan.

It seems the only thing Democrats remember is to hate Bush no matter what. fark YOU douchebags. Clinton had multiple chances to kill the KNOWN TERRORIST LEADER Bin Laden before 9/11. Talk about that you mother farkers.

I also remember seeing this joke on an awesome comic online, Cyanide and Happiness.
=================================

What YOU fail to realize (and 80% of the country now knows) is that Bush played on that emotion to get people who normally would not support warfare to go along with his* plan to invade Iraq.

What you idiots try to forget is that this man once had an 80% approval rating. So, STFU once and for all actng like the "liberal" hatred of Bush is somehow irrational. Mutherfarker, there are people dying RIGHT NOW because of his lies and bullshiat. Its funny how the party of personal responsibility can never seem to own up to their own failures.

"Waaaaah, people hate Bush for no reason".

*people list reasons*

"Oh, well he's 'the decider'. He doesn't care about polls."

*Bush is a figurehead.


Hating Bush for 9/11 is stupid bullshiat. Him for using it as an excuse to go to war with Saddam is bullshiat. There were plenty of good reasons, and as a Republican I'm baffled as to why he chose that shiatty, retarded, false one.
 
2008-09-08 03:54:27 PM  
Robert1966: There had been so many images by then that I really wasn't looking forward to seeing mine. And there it was.

Thanks for sharing yours.
 
2008-09-08 03:54:31 PM  
ObscureNameHere: Oh, and can we get some black gospel singers in here? Apparently a nation cannot properly grieve without a contingent of black gospel singers.

Why they gotta be black, man?

/stirs another pot.
 
2008-09-08 03:54:31 PM  
charkocu: Theaetetus

Remember, everyone: there is only one proper way to grieve, no one is allowed to grieve in their own way. You are no longer allowed to cry at weddings or tell funny stories at funerals.

Are you that farking stupid? Are you actually saying that posting up pictures that spoof people jumping out of burning buildings and little cartoons of planes crashing into the buildings as a coping mechanism? This isn't "telling funny stories at funerals" about the people you loved. This is mocking the unjust and horrible deaths of thousands of people you never knew, which makes it all the easier and all the more disturbing.

We all grieve differently, but using their deaths as the butt of yet another Fark joke is pathetic.


This is my express written permission that when I go, especially if it is some horrifice fashion, you are all free to work it into jokes, make funny photoshops, do what you will. Some of us just look at life and death in a more realistic fashion.

and btw, I live in DC, and I know people who died that day. Doesn't change the fact that I don't take myself that seriously.

Oh, and my phone company (was Working Assets, now Credo) did not charge for any calls made that day for anyone from affected areas. They rock.
 
2008-09-08 03:55:09 PM  
What's the over/under on comments by DROxINxTHExWIND before this becomes a black thing?

/kidding DRO
 
2008-09-08 03:55:09 PM  
9/11 didn't even kill 3,000 people, and the nation goes apeshiat for years and years and years afterwards.

OTOH, we kill approximately 35,000 people every year in traffic crashes, and we still drive like assholes and enjoy doing so, even buying special cars specifically designed for the purpose of driving like assholes.

Nobody seems to care.

So what gives? Is it better when we kill ourselves than when others do it for us?
 
2008-09-08 03:55:14 PM  
I meant its ok to hate him for invoking 9/11 for the war with Iraq..
 
2008-09-08 03:55:17 PM  
Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

Do a flip!
 
2008-09-08 03:55:41 PM  
Well I use Mac/Linux...: Rye_

When I say "evidence," I don't mean "anecdote."

It's always some "guy." Who called from the plane? Who took the call? Was it recorded? Did your aunt tell you this?

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you haven't convinced me.
 
2008-09-08 03:55:42 PM  
IEatANimaLs: ObscureNameHere: Oh, and can we get some black gospel singers in here? Apparently a nation cannot properly grieve without a contingent of black gospel singers.

Why they gotta be black, man?

/stirs another pot.


Why you gotta mention black people and pot?

/Stir, stir
 
2008-09-08 03:55:49 PM  
BillyRex: re-elect_jimmy_carter: NEVAR FERGIT!

Yeah real funny farkwad, between the 5th and 6th frame is when my high school friend was vaporized.


You'll get over it. I heard that people in this country died on days other than 9/11 as well. Should we be weeping and wailing, abstaining from any kind of humour on 9/12, 9/13, 9/14 ... ?
 
2008-09-08 03:56:01 PM  
If Hitler can be made into a joke then so can 9/11. It might still be a bit too soon for some people, but nobody is forcing you to read the thread.
 
2008-09-08 03:56:19 PM  
studebaker hoch: Theaetetus:

There's a built-in function on your computer that will instantly solve this problem for you... You have to press the fourth function key (it's in a row along the top, just start counting from the left) while simultaneously holding down the "alt" key in the lower left corner of the keyboard.

I count four keys over from the left, but only end up on 'F3'.

Is my computer broken?


No, just your reading comprehension.
 
2008-09-08 03:56:19 PM  
Well I use Mac/Linux...: So it's pretty common for a 1 ton piece of an engine to land over a mile from the crash site, when it was intact when the plane crashed into the ground?

If they crash into the ground full throttle, and explode on impact, of course.

In fact, the fact that the debris didn't scatter more than 8 miles is pretty strong evidence that there wasn't a missile. A missile would have scattered parts over a much, much wider area than just that.
 
2008-09-08 03:56:29 PM  
Theaetetus: fatgail: I'm so farking tired of the 'gallows humor' defense on here. It's like a loophole in a tax return. "I can make jokes about anything, any time and if anyone is offended by it, rather than pull back, I'll claim it a "grieving mechanism".

There's a built-in function on your computer that will instantly solve this problem for you... You have to press the fourth function key (it's in a row along the top, just start counting from the left) while simultaneously holding down the "alt" key in the lower left corner of the keyboard.
Try it, we'll wait.

=================================

Translation: Instead of working to make anything better, in all instances where you are confronted with a problem, simply take the nearest exit.

*This is especially true of the city, state, or contry that you live in. If you don't like it, the problem is YOU.
 
2008-09-08 03:56:39 PM  
fatgail: Waaaaaah! Someone called me on my bullshiat! Waaaaah! The key here is, I don't have to be personally offended by something to see that it's tactless.

If you mean me, have you noticed how many people have spoken up in agreement?

But yes, fatgail, you have successfully made the thread about you. Congratulations.
 
2008-09-08 03:56:51 PM  
Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: I had a business trip in Europe starting on 9/15. It amazes me how much good will towards Americans there was then and how much our government has pissed it away.

that would have been a good time to drop a few nukes.

Lets see who wants to hide Al-Queda then..
 
2008-09-08 03:57:01 PM  
Somebody forgot?!
 
IPS
2008-09-08 03:57:11 PM  
No one wants to forget. What everyone would like is to remember it in their own way.

I remember by setting up two empty paper towel rolls with Fisher Price people hanging out of holes cut out in the cardboard tubes and then let my kid throw his Fisher Price plane at them.

wut?
 
2008-09-08 03:57:30 PM  
grimnir: This isn't honoring anyone. It isn't making anyone safer. It isn't making anyone stronger. It isn't defending America. It's talking ourselves into a traumatized state. Why? Why do we want to give ourselves as a culture and a nation a collective case of PTSD?

We're not only letting the terrorists determine our national feeling and national course, we're helping them do it.


img381.imageshack.us
I will not submit.
 
2008-09-08 03:57:35 PM  
I was surprised though by the whole "we had it coming" comment Obama made the other day. Seemed a little over the top to me.

/but that's just me.
 
2008-09-08 03:57:36 PM  
SharkInfested: charkocu: Theaetetus

Remember, everyone: there is only one proper way to grieve, no one is allowed to grieve in their own way. You are no longer allowed to cry at weddings or tell funny stories at funerals.

Are you that farking stupid? Are you actually saying that posting up pictures that spoof people jumping out of burning buildings and little cartoons of planes crashing into the buildings as a coping mechanism? This isn't "telling funny stories at funerals" about the people you loved. This is mocking the unjust and horrible deaths of thousands of people you never knew, which makes it all the easier and all the more disturbing.

We all grieve differently, but using their deaths as the butt of yet another Fark joke is pathetic.

This is my express written permission that when I go, especially if it is some horrifice fashion, you are all free to work it into jokes, make funny photoshops, do what you will. Some of us just look at life and death in a more realistic fashion.

and btw, I live in DC, and I know people who died that day. Doesn't change the fact that I don't take myself that seriously.

Oh, and my phone company (was Working Assets, now Credo) did not charge for any calls made that day for anyone from affected areas. They rock.


Joking, I think as well, Is one of the best ways to cope with a death or multiple ones. My brother and I have made a pact that if one of us goes first, we are telling a joke about how the death happened at the wake or funeral.
 
2008-09-08 03:57:36 PM  
SharkInfested: when I go, especially if it is some horrifice fashion, you are all free to work it into jokes, make funny photoshops, do what you will.

I'm always afraid my death will be a Fark headline, with a Florida tag.

/just hope I don't Darwin myself
 
2008-09-08 03:58:12 PM  
studebaker hoch: 9/11 didn't even kill 3,000 people, and the nation goes apeshiat for years and years and years afterwards.

OTOH, we kill approximately 35,000 people every year in traffic crashes, and we still drive like assholes and enjoy doing so, even buying special cars specifically designed for the purpose of driving like assholes.

Nobody seems to care.

So what gives? Is it better when we kill ourselves than when others do it for us?


Ever read this article from the LA Times?

Putting 9/11 in perspective

Of course, he was thrashed as an anti-American after that article. But he is absolutely right, IMO.
 
2008-09-08 03:58:45 PM  
Theaetetus: But yes, fatgail, you have successfully made the thread about you. Congratulations.

You guys should make out now. I mean make up.

/damn
 
2008-09-08 03:59:17 PM  
jaylectricity

No, just your reading comprehension.

Ow, that hurt. Hey is that really you in your profile pic?


Ladies and gentlemen I give you:

i377.photobucket.com

Isn't he great folks? Let's give him a big hand!
 
2008-09-08 03:59:21 PM  
petcat2469: Quote 2008-09-08 03:19:28 PM
Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

My god that is horrific, I can't even begin to imagine seeing something like that.

My first thought is of the Spiderman picture, 'how do I shot web?'..

And yes, it IS funny.


Wow, democrats have sunk to a low level. Rock chunking, socialist, head wrapped thugocratic bastards. You'd think all the lemmings in here would be a prevalent voice in public, but they only snear behind there desk. Come on out an play democrats, lets see what type of response you get in the bar scene. That'd be fun wouldn't it?
 
2008-09-08 03:59:23 PM  
Wrath of Heaven: charkocu: Perhaps one day you will be throwing yourself out of a window and we can laugh about how silly you look with your arms flailing around like crazy. Don't take that personally, though. Its Fark.

I'll be the guy doing the cannonball.


I would try to land on someone, or blow myself up so i splatter all over the crowd watching from below
 
2008-09-08 03:59:41 PM  
Lt. Cheese Weasel: grimnir: This isn't honoring anyone. It isn't making anyone safer. It isn't making anyone stronger. It isn't defending America. It's talking ourselves into a traumatized state. Why? Why do we want to give ourselves as a culture and a nation a collective case of PTSD?

We're not only letting the terrorists determine our national feeling and national course, we're helping them do it.


I will not submit.


That's the worst drawing of a worm-farm I've ever seen.
 
2008-09-08 03:59:50 PM  
studebaker hoch: 9/11 didn't even kill 3,000 people, and the nation goes apeshiat for years and years and years afterwards.

OTOH, we kill approximately 35,000 people every year in traffic crashes, and we still drive like assholes and enjoy doing so, even buying special cars specifically designed for the purpose of driving like assholes.

Nobody seems to care.

So what gives? Is it better when we kill ourselves than when others do it for us?


You don't really need this explained to you, do you? You are just being facetious, right?
 
2008-09-08 03:59:50 PM  
JDAT: I was surprised though by the whole "we had it coming" comment Obama made the other day. Seemed a little over the top to me.

/but that's just me.


It might be over the top but we don't exactly get to claim we were minding our own business previously. We pissed people off repeatedly, we can't be shocked when they go on the offensive.

The problem is that too many people are unwilling to look at our past to see what caused 9/11, it wasn't simply a "we hate your freedom so we are going to spend 5 years planning and carrying out this mission"
 
2008-09-08 03:59:52 PM  
bikerdiva: It's my birthday.

And you cry if you wanna?
 
2008-09-08 03:59:59 PM  
JDAT: I was surprised though by the whole "we had it coming" comment Obama made the other day. Seemed a little over the top to me.

/but that's just me.


I didn't see that. Link?
 
2008-09-08 04:00:17 PM  
Tsunami Ditka: But he is absolutely right, IMO.

Well, someone named "tsunami" would think that.

/229,000+ in less than a minute
 
2008-09-08 04:00:29 PM  
Epiphany

That you can say

Hating Bush for 9/11 is stupid bullshiat.

and

Clinton had multiple chances to kill [...] Bin Laden before 9/11

in the same thread indicates that you probably shouldn't be taken seriously.
 
2008-09-08 04:00:42 PM  
schattenteufel: Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.


oh stop your whining.

I'm so damn tired of people acting all self-righteous & consedscending because of their "I take 9/11 more serously than you" bullcrap. Get over yourself & keep your misery to yourself. Different people cope in different ways. We can't all go 'round never talking about it & wearing black armbands & never having sex or enjoying ice cream again because a few thousand people died seven years ago.


You clearly have no insight into how witnessing the violent deaths of thousands of one's fellow citizens can have a profound effect on someone's psyche.

You have no idea what it's like to experience a jet plane flying directly over your home and then crashing into part of the skyline three blocks away. You simply cannot imagine the shock, the sounds, the horror. My mind still have difficulty comprehending it.

You have no clue what it is like to live with the smell of burning corpses for months. Or seeing crushed vehicles with blood-spatter that came from the driver being crushed by debris. Or seeing those posters for the missing, every day, and watching the ink and hope slowly fade.

You don't know what it is like to see loved ones just losing their shiat in panic and fear, becoming unrecognizable to you and being unable to give them answer to as to what's going on, or why.

Sadly, I know all of this and more, and I'll never quite get over it. I'll never be right again. I'll always cringe at the sound of a low-flying plane. I'll never get those sounds out of my head. I'll never be able to watch the documentaries without crying.

So go ahead, cope however the hell you want to, but don't tell me that making such a tragedy into entertainment is somehow a good and right thing.

If you, or any of the other shiatheads that think it cute to make entertainment out of 9/11 really feel that way, please come to NYC and tell me some tasteless jokes in person. Show me your stupid photoshops and cartoons.

Then see if any jury convicts me for what I'll do next.

//and learn how to spell, f-tard
 
2008-09-08 04:00:48 PM  
All these years, and lives, and trillions of dollars later, I have but one question for all of you.
Have anyone of you since then taken the time to learn how to disarm a moran with a farking boxcutter, yet?
Hate to say it, but don't blame Bush.
You all let him get this far.
And I still see women marching to "take back the night" and having never having taken a single simple judo class.
 
2008-09-08 04:00:59 PM  
Theaetetus: Tsunami Ditka: But he is absolutely right, IMO.

Well, someone named "tsunami" would think that.

/229,000+ in less than a minute


It's a reference to...oh, never mind.
 
2008-09-08 04:01:10 PM  
this guy is a not forget.
img.timeinc.net
 
2008-09-08 04:01:12 PM  
www.classbrain.com

NEVAR FORGET!
 
2008-09-08 04:01:21 PM  
farm machine:
If you order now she'll even throw in her officially licensed grieving towel at no extra cost. That's the book, the autograph and the grieving towel all for 3 easy payments of $9.99. Operators are standing by.


Oh baby, I hope someday you learn how to read for understanding. I dont give a rat's ass how you grieve...the thing I hate is when you're not grieving at all, but use "grieving" as an excuse to make jokes about someone burning to death in a collapsing building. It's...well, it's lying. I'm not big on it. If you simply said "I'm a callous fark who likes to go out of his way to offend people", we'd at least all be on the same page.

Do you get it now? Oh good. You're cute.
 
2008-09-08 04:01:22 PM  
jaylectricity: What's the over/under on comments by DROxINxTHExWIND before this becomes a black thing?

/kidding DRO


Well, you know my passions are 9/11 threads and black threads. If they ever do a story about a black man who overheard Cheney giving the order to start the hijackings, I'd be in heaven.

/right back atcha
 
2008-09-08 04:01:26 PM  
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Link to Bush saying he doesn't care if he catches Bin Laden.
 
2008-09-08 04:01:35 PM  
simian04: IEatANimaLs: ObscureNameHere: Oh, and can we get some black gospel singers in here? Apparently a nation cannot properly grieve without a contingent of black gospel singers.

Why they gotta be black, man?

/stirs another pot.

Why you gotta mention black people and pot?

/Stir, stir


While I find this discussion very stirring, it is just an odd observation I made once, up here living in Canada-land.

Whenever the US has a mournful 'national event', it seems there HAS to be a Baptist / Southern Gospel choir, along with a well dressed young black guy with a Motown mellow voice for the solo, and a large black female soloist with a voice so powerful it threatens the stained glass in the church.

/just observing, not startin' nothin'
 
2008-09-08 04:01:46 PM  
Theaetetus

There are several, whether you believe it or not. Frankly, I suspect that you'd just say I was lying.


I wouldn't assume you were lying. Just show me some Farkers who lost loved ones and are laughing about it today. It should be simple if you already know them. Then again you would have to prove it, which you will fail to do so.

Allow me to elaborate. Only an asshole like yourself would defend other assholes exploiting their suffering and death for their satirical gain. You defend them because you have likely made or continue to take this event in jest. You are so saddened and so traumatized by what happened 7 years ago that now you feel compelled to laugh about it and show everyone how silly the whole ordeal was. Right. I guess I'm done with you.
 
2008-09-08 04:02:20 PM  
Rye_: I_Love_Cheesecake: Rye_: Well I use Mac/Linux...: It's amazing how many people still think that 93 wasn't shot down my our military.

What's amazing is how many people do believe that without having a shred of evidence.

How did 93 come down, then?

I have no idea. Maybe it happened they way they say it did, maybe the military shot it down, or maybe something happened that you haven't even thought of yet. I don't know and you don't know.

I do know that conspiracy theories are fun to believe in, but you can't expect a reasonable person to believe something that important simply because they read it on the internet. You're a fool if you do.


You do realise that the official story - that Osama Bin Laden and a rag-tag bunch of radical Muslims living in caves in Afghanistan masterminded the attacks - is a conspiracy theory, right?

To conspire means "to join in a secret agreement to do an unlawful or wrongful act or to use such means to accomplish a lawful end."

"Conspiracy theory": a theory that explains an event or set of circumstances as the result of a secret plot by usually powerful conspirators
 
2008-09-08 04:02:33 PM  
Epiphany: There were plenty of good reasons, and as a Republican I'm baffled as to why he chose that shiatty, retarded, false one.

Do you think he would have gotten a buy in under any other reason? Really?
 
2008-09-08 04:02:59 PM  
The Dynamite Monkey

You don't really need this explained to you, do you? You are just being facetious, right?

I was given specific instructions NOT to taunt you.
 
2008-09-08 04:03:31 PM  
jonnyh: Then see if any jury convicts me for what I'll do next.

You have post traumatic stress disorder. It is a diagnosable mental health condition and you can and should receive counseling.

And yes, I did just diagnose you over the internet. You sound like a mad man.
 
2008-09-08 04:03:35 PM  
studebaker hoch: jaylectricity

No, just your reading comprehension.

Ow, that hurt. Hey is that really you in your profile pic?


Ladies and gentlemen I give you:



Isn't he great folks? Let's give him a big hand!


I will sick leftyblonde on you. She made that picture for me and I love it.
 
2008-09-08 04:03:59 PM  
toonz: but to be fair, the actual quote is here:
white house press release (new window)

When responding to a question of Bin laden's whereabouts he basically says "who cares?" I think his reasoning surrounding that in the quote is plausible, in terms of the big picture, but it IS a reversal on his stance to "GET" those responsible.


So why do people like you use the fake quote? It's so obviously disproven, and you yourself have the actual transcript, so why bother? It just makes anything you say, at all, immediately suspect at best. Could it be because it's what you WISH he had said, and you're hoping nobody calls you on your lies? Because that's what it looks like from here.

Oh, and 'That is what he effectively said, so I am gonna use quotes even though he didn't say it'? No. Just farking no. Someone's biased misinterpretation of the point isn't a quote, it's a biased paraphrase.

If you're gonna disagree with the guy at least disagree with something he actually said, not a lie that someone wrote trying to twist what he did say.
 
2008-09-08 04:04:02 PM  
Over the last few days of America strong arming my country over the India nuke trade deal I wouldn't give a rats arse if it happened again.
 
2008-09-08 04:04:06 PM  
jonnyh: schattenteufel: Sullasdog:

You clearly have no insight into how witnessing the violent deaths of thousands of one's fellow citizens can have a profound effect on someone's psyche.

You have no idea what it's like to experience a jet plane flying directly over your home and then crashing into part of the skyline three blocks away. You simply cannot imagine the shock, the sounds, the horror. My mind still have difficulty comprehending it.

You have no clue what it is like to live with the smell of burning corpses for months. Or seeing crushed vehicles with blood-spatter that came from the driver being crushed by debris. Or seeing those posters for the missing, every day, and watching the ink and hope slowly fade.

You don't know what it is like to see loved ones just losing their shiat in panic and fear, becoming unrecognizable to you and being unable to give them answer to as to what's going on, or why.

Sadly, I know all of this and more, and I'll never quite get over it. I'll never be right again. I'll always cringe at the sound of a low-flying plane. I'll never get those sounds out of my head. I'll never be able to watch the documentaries without crying.

So go ahead, cope however the hell you want to, but don't tell me that making such a tragedy into entertainment is somehow a good and right thing.

If you, or any of the other shiatheads that think it cute to make entertainment out of 9/11 really feel that way, please come to NYC and tell me some tasteless jokes in person. Show me your stupid photoshops and cartoons.

Then see if any jury convicts me for what I'll do next.

//and learn how to spell, f-tard


www.fstdt.com
 
2008-09-08 04:04:18 PM  
I remember riding my bike home from soccer practice the night before, and waking up early the next morning to find my dad sitting in the living room in his underwear (he was usually busy getting ready for work), his eyes fixed intently on the television. My then-girlfriend's birthday was September 11th, too. Very surreal morning, even all the way across the country in California.
 
2008-09-08 04:04:30 PM  
studebaker hoch: The Dynamite Monkey

You don't really need this explained to you, do you? You are just being facetious, right?

I was given specific instructions NOT to taunt you.


Thread over, studebaker hoch wins, flawless victory.
 
2008-09-08 04:04:30 PM  
That damned knock knock joke seems decades older than the incident.. how the hell can something that lame get greenlit?
 
2008-09-08 04:04:30 PM  
The Dynamite Monkey: BerardisBiatch: My god that is horrific, I can't even begin to imagine seeing something like that.

As someone who was on the ground one block away, trust me you wouldn't want to see it.

And since there were 10,000 people around me all watching, (trapped between the WTC and the Hudson river) every time another one fell 10,000 people screamed in unison.

Imagine that every 30 seconds or so for 20 minutes. You can close your eyes but not your ears.

I think, in his defense, that was what he was alluding too. I can understand how people who were not personally touched could be cavalier about it -- just like I wouldn't be offended by a joke about Mrs. O'Leary's cow -- but they should at least respect everyone else's right to be touchy about it.


That was my point - I couldn't even imagine that, I think expieriencing something like that would haunt you for life. Just seeing the images in pictures like that or on TV turns my stomach. I can't blame anyone that actually went through that for being the least bit sensitive to this.
 
2008-09-08 04:04:31 PM  
Whoop-de-do. The US war machine destroys hundreds of buildings and slaughters tens of thousands of innocent people without remose. We get 2 buildings knocked down, and we cry like a banshee, and let our politicans destroy our freedom.

Get over it.
 
2008-09-08 04:04:33 PM  
awesome pun

this guy is a not forget.

Mr Cool Ice...you got yourself some competition!

/wow
 
2008-09-08 04:04:42 PM  
vudukungfu: All these years, and lives, and trillions of dollars later, I have but one question for all of you.
Have anyone of you since then taken the time to learn how to disarm a moran with a farking boxcutter, yet?
Hate to say it, but don't blame Bush.
You all let him get this far.
And I still see women marching to "take back the night" and having never having taken a single simple judo class.


plutoniumblond.files.wordpress.com
 
2008-09-08 04:05:04 PM  
petcat2469: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Link to Bush saying he doesn't care if he catches Bin Laden.


So when McCain says he will follow Bin Laden to the gates of hell, is he criticizing Bush's inability to effectively fight terror?
 
2008-09-08 04:05:40 PM  
www.boomspeed.com
 
2008-09-08 04:05:55 PM  
syndic8: I don't suppose you can show us where he actually said that? Like the white house briefing transcript? Hint: You are repeating a lie, a misquote. He never said those words in that order.

about.com (new window)
Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002


I'm thinking that the white house briefing transcript, posted here several times, showing that's NOT what he said, might be a bit more reliable of a source than pooliticalhumor.about.com - just sayin'.
 
2008-09-08 04:06:00 PM  
charkocu:
Allow me to elaborate. Only an asshole like yourself would defend other assholes exploiting their suffering and death for their satirical gain. You defend them because you have likely made or continue to take this event in jest. You are so saddened and so traumatized by what happened 7 years ago that now you feel compelled to laugh about it and show everyone how silly the whole ordeal was. Right. I guess I'm done with you.


Shhhhhhhh, you're not allowed to answer him anymore. He just told me everyone agrees with him. Lets let him believe it.
 
2008-09-08 04:06:00 PM  
Some people are sure self-indilgent with the paranoia. FTFA:

I'm standing in a sluggish line at the airport, waiting to go through the security ritual, shoelaces already untied. The husky 20-something in front of me has abundant piercings - ears, eyebrows. Once on board, will he remove the "jewelry" and assemble it into a weapon?

Like what kind of weapon? Tiny nunchuks? Miniature shuriken? It's probably more likely that he'd just headbutt you and then rub his piercings on your face so that you had... scratches on your face.

So glad I read that tripe.
 
2008-09-08 04:06:05 PM  
jonnyh: schattenteufel: Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.


oh stop your whining.

I'm so damn tired of people acting all self-righteous & consedscending because of their "I take 9/11 more serously than you" bullcrap. Get over yourself & keep your misery to yourself. Different people cope in different ways. We can't all go 'round never talking about it & wearing black armbands & never having sex or enjoying ice cream again because a few thousand people died seven years ago.

You clearly have no insight into how witnessing the violent deaths of thousands of one's fellow citizens can have a profound effect on someone's psyche.

You have no idea what it's like to experience a jet plane flying directly over your home and then crashing into part of the skyline three blocks away. You simply cannot imagine the shock, the sounds, the horror. My mind still have difficulty comprehending it.

You have no clue what it is like to live with the smell of burning corpses for months. Or seeing crushed vehicles with blood-spatter that came from the driver being crushed by debris. Or seeing those posters for the missing, every day, and watching the ink and hope slowly fade.

You don't know what it is like to see loved ones just losing their shiat in panic and fear, becoming unrecognizable to you and being unable to give them answer to as to what's going on, or why.

Sadly, I know all of this and more, and I'll never quite get over it. I'll never be right again. I'll always cringe at the sound of a low-flying plane. I'll never get those sounds out of my head. I'll never be able to watch the documentaries without crying.

So go ahead, cope however the hell you want to, but don't tell me that making such a tragedy into entertainment is somehow a good and right thing.

If you, or any of the other shiatheads that think it cute to make entertainment out of 9/11 really feel that way, please come to NYC and tell me some tasteless jokes in person. Show me your stupid photoshops and cartoons.

Then see if any jury convicts me for what I'll do next.

//and learn how to spell, f-tard


I think I need to pay you a visit. I've got some great jokes and I'm just itching to beat the shiat out of an internet tough-guy for kicks. Nyah.
 
2008-09-08 04:06:28 PM  
studebaker hoch: Nobody seems to care.

So what gives? Is it better when we kill ourselves than when others do it for us?


So if I walk up to you and stab you in the stomach with a knife, you won't be mad at all? After all, you might have gotten into an auto accident this afternoon anyway, and had a piece of glass cut your stomach instead.
 
2008-09-08 04:06:39 PM  
shizbgby_v2: That movie made me cry to.

/Man
//Men not supposed to be sappy HAHHHHHH!!
///As if I follow, heh.


A sensitive man?

...

How YOU doin'? ;)
 
2008-09-08 04:06:56 PM  
jonnyh: If you, or any of the other shiatheads that think it cute to make entertainment out of 9/11 really feel that way, please come to NYC and tell me some tasteless jokes in person. Show me your stupid photoshops and cartoons.

Then see if any jury convicts me for what I'll do next.


Sorry friend, the "internet tough guy" bit you tacked on completely invalidated your post. Leave it off next time as nobody is going to take you seriously for the rest of this thread.
 
2008-09-08 04:06:57 PM  
At the risk of not refreshing,

Finnley Wrenn had an excellent view from Logan Airport that day.
 
2008-09-08 04:07:46 PM  
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I remember, the firefighters who went into the burning towers when all others were fleeing and the brave Americans of Flight 93 who showed that America is still the home of the brave.
 
2008-09-08 04:08:01 PM  
jonnyh: If you, or any of the other shiatheads that think it cute to make entertainment out of 9/11 really feel that way, please come to NYC and tell me some tasteless jokes in person. Show me your stupid photoshops and cartoons.

Then see if any jury convicts me for what I'll do next.


Let me guess, you have raped for less.
 
2008-09-08 04:08:18 PM  
I've got a blind date on September, 11. w00t.
 
2008-09-08 04:08:31 PM  
fatgail: charkocu:
Allow me to elaborate. Only an asshole like yourself would defend other assholes exploiting their suffering and death for their satirical gain. You defend them because you have likely made or continue to take this event in jest. You are so saddened and so traumatized by what happened 7 years ago that now you feel compelled to laugh about it and show everyone how silly the whole ordeal was. Right. I guess I'm done with you.

Shhhhhhhh, you're not allowed to answer him anymore. He just told me everyone agrees with him. Lets let him believe it.


Tell me, who did you lose on 9/11? Or you, charkocu?
 
2008-09-08 04:08:43 PM  
pretentious much? "did anything else even happen in 2001?"
 
2008-09-08 04:09:12 PM  
jonnyh

Classic Internet Tough Guy.

Nice to know NYers (or at least you) are entitled to a kind of vile sociopathy generally reserved for those that have been institutionalized.
 
2008-09-08 04:09:25 PM  
Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

Finally...Thank you! Can't agree more.
 
2008-09-08 04:10:09 PM  
tweekster: JDAT: I was surprised though by the whole "we had it coming" comment Obama made the other day. Seemed a little over the top to me.

/but that's just me.

It might be over the top but we don't exactly get to claim we were minding our own business previously. We pissed people off repeatedly, we can't be shocked when they go on the offensive.

The problem is that too many people are unwilling to look at our past to see what caused 9/11, it wasn't simply a "we hate your freedom so we are going to spend 5 years planning and carrying out this mission"


What did we do from say 1993 up until then?
 
2008-09-08 04:10:26 PM  
ObscureNameHere: simian04: IEatANimaLs: ObscureNameHere: Oh, and can we get some black gospel singers in here? Apparently a nation cannot properly grieve without a contingent of black gospel singers.

Why they gotta be black, man?

/stirs another pot.

Why you gotta mention black people and pot?

/Stir, stir

While I find this discussion very stirring, it is just an odd observation I made once, up here living in Canada-land.

Whenever the US has a mournful 'national event', it seems there HAS to be a Baptist / Southern Gospel choir, along with a well dressed young black guy with a Motown mellow voice for the solo, and a large black female soloist with a voice so powerful it threatens the stained glass in the church.

/just observing, not startin' nothin'


Interesting. But I've never noticed such a thing. I should move to Canada and observe the states from there. :) Plus, you guys have great bacon.
 
2008-09-08 04:10:38 PM  
toonz: dstanley: goldencopulations: BillyRex:
Yeah real funny farkwad, between the 5th and 6th frame is when my high school friend was vaporized.

Jeez, they take bowling waaaay to seriously in your neck of the woods.

should have said, "No anchovies, please"


Say Bob, there sure is something familiar about that bowling ball
 
2008-09-08 04:10:43 PM  
petcat2469: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Link to Bush saying he doesn't care if he catches Bin Laden.


And yet, it doesn't have the quote of "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." in it, does it. That's what dude started with, I pointed out it's a fake quote. Do you agree now that you have the actual transcript, that it's a fake quote?

If you can see that, can you see how using it as if it WAS a quote, is bad? It's called lying to make a point, which is rarely effective. 'Well that is kind of what he meant to say if I had written his speech for him in a way that he could say it so I could hate him', sure, but it's not a farking quote - and pretending it is, is just another lie by a bush-hater.
 
2008-09-08 04:11:00 PM  
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2008-09-08 04:11:06 PM  
Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: Why do people place so much emphasis and sentimentality upon recurring dates? Dates are just a function of the mechanics of our solar system and calendar. It's not like the terrorist attack on that day or any other isolated event is actually cyclical and needs to be remembered every year at a specific time or the universe will end. Why is 9/11/2008 a better day for reflection than any other day of the year, such as 9/12/2008? There's no actual relationship. Has it become so attenuated that you need to be reminded by a mnemonic device inherent in the calendar once each year? Why not remember it every day at 9:12AM if it's so blatantly arbitrary? You know, you don't have to obsess over something on a certain day just because it gets television coverage and everybody around you is doing the same thing. You have a choice to be an individual. Some societal ceremonies are good and some of them are just stupid. If you can detach yourself from the emotional aspects of the events, you may realize that this practice is one of them.

Let's never forget, you wrote this on Moon Day the 8th in the ninth month of the year, named September, 2008 years after a Jewish carpenter was nailed to a piece of wood.

I mean, you could've written it on a Thor's day in the month of Augustus?
 
2008-09-08 04:11:38 PM  
tweekster: Let me guess, you have raped for less.

I missed the original thread for that one -- coudln't have been too long ago. Does anyone still have it?
 
2008-09-08 04:11:55 PM  
DslainteC: All I know is that if Tom Brady is gone for the season this Thursday is going to be a very sad Patriot's Day. Who could ever forget the day they saw that towering QB collapse to the ground?

It might be a sad Patriot's Day, but not until April. Though Patriot Day might be sad also.
 
2008-09-08 04:12:50 PM  
studebaker hoch

awesome pun
this guy is a not forget.

Mr Cool Ice...you got yourself some competition!

/wow


well, at least he got it somewhere not clearly visible during sex...

/making assumptions
 
2008-09-08 04:13:06 PM  
jonnyh: schattenteufel: Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.


oh stop your whining.

I'm so damn tired of people acting all self-righteous & consedscending because of their "I take 9/11 more serously than you" bullcrap. Get over yourself & keep your misery to yourself. Different people cope in different ways. We can't all go 'round never talking about it & wearing black armbands & never having sex or enjoying ice cream again because a few thousand people died seven years ago.

You clearly have no insight into how witnessing the violent deaths of thousands of one's fellow citizens can have a profound effect on someone's psyche.

You have no idea what it's like to experience a jet plane flying directly over your home and then crashing into part of the skyline three blocks away. You simply cannot imagine the shock, the sounds, the horror. My mind still have difficulty comprehending it.

You have no clue what it is like to live with the smell of burning corpses for months. Or seeing crushed vehicles with blood-spatter that came from the driver being crushed by debris. Or seeing those posters for the missing, every day, and watching the ink and hope slowly fade.

You don't know what it is like to see loved ones just losing their shiat in panic and fear, becoming unrecognizable to you and being unable to give them answer to as to what's going on, or why.

Sadly, I know all of this and more, and I'll never quite get over it. I'll never be right again. I'll always cringe at the sound of a low-flying plane. I'll never get those sounds out of my head. I'll never be able to watch the documentaries without crying.

So go ahead, cope however the hell you want to, but don't tell me that making such a tragedy into entertainment is somehow a good and right thing.

If you, or any of the other shiatheads that think it cute to make entertainment out of 9/11 really feel that way, please come to NYC and tell me some tasteless jokes in person. Show me your stupid photoshops and cartoons.

Then see if any jury convicts me for what I'll do next.

//and learn how to spell, f-tard


I'm honestly surprised that you could smell burning corpses over the normal NY smell.
 
2008-09-08 04:13:18 PM  
MmmVomit: I've got a blind date on September, 11. w00t.

Don't let her walk into the side of a building.

/Boo-ya!
 
2008-09-08 04:13:18 PM  
charkocu: Allow me to elaborate. Only an asshole like yourself would defend other assholes exploiting their suffering and death for their satirical gain. You defend them because you have likely made or continue to take this event in jest. You are so saddened and so traumatized by what happened 7 years ago that now you feel compelled to laugh about it and show everyone how silly the whole ordeal was. Right. I guess I'm done with you.

Geeze...what an asshole!
 
2008-09-08 04:13:18 PM  
Theaetetus:

Tell me, who did you lose on 9/11? Or you, charkocu?


And here's the proof that you don't read posts. I didn't lose anyone personally, which is why I said the jokes don't personally offend me, nor do I grieve on 9/11, or cry about it. I just take the day to remember and think of the others who suffered, but otherwise it doesn't mean much to me deep down on a 'grief' level. As a human being however, I'm able to step outside of myself and see how others may be hurting and what I do is I TRY NOT TO CONTRIBUTE TO IT.
 
2008-09-08 04:13:26 PM  
I live in the Mid-West...and got an email from a friend in France who was just checking to make sure I was ok. I gave him a quick geography lesson and said that I was very safe and had nothing to worry about.

Like most Americans, I have no personal connection to what happened on 9/11. However, I was like most idiots and sat there until my girlfriend said that I should probably stop watching TV after 24 hours.

The odd thing is that because we all watched it on tv there is that sort of shared experience I think. But I really tend to think that for most people (again, not New Yorkers) its like watching Private Ryan too many times and you start getting the two thousand yard stare...

The really odd thing is that this violence scene impacted everyone, yet we dont have the stomach to watch the violence that we have collectively unleashed.
 
2008-09-08 04:13:27 PM  
Jamespoon: I can't forget. Not as long as people keep exploiting it.
 
2008-09-08 04:14:53 PM  
fatgail: I didn't lose anyone personally,

Right, and then you come in here and tell those of us who did how we should grieve.
Welcome to Ignoreville. Population: you.
 
2008-09-08 04:15:21 PM  
I_Love_Cheesecake:
You do realise that the official story - that Osama Bin Laden and a rag-tag bunch of radical Muslims living in caves in Afghanistan masterminded the attacks - is a conspiracy theory, right?


Hey, good point. Maybe nobody's got it right.

To conspire means "to join in a secret agreement to do an unlawful or wrongful act or to use such means to accomplish a lawful end."

"Conspiracy theory": a theory that explains an event or set of circumstances as the result of a secret plot by usually powerful conspirators


So, is that explanation meant to make me more open to one version of a story with no evidence than another? As I said, I don't know what happened what happened to that plane and neither do you.

In spite of your lack of evidence, what makes you believe that it was shot down? Is the "official story" too boring for you?
 
2008-09-08 04:15:45 PM  
jonnyh: If you, or any of the other shiatheads that think it cute to make entertainment out of 9/11 really feel that way, please come to NYC and tell me some tasteless jokes in person. Show me your stupid photoshops and cartoons.

It will never happen. These people are cowards and would never say any such thing in public. It is interesting to wonder what would happen if one of these guys screwed up and started spouting some of this in a crowed tavern in a working class part of New York.

I would pay to see it ... I really would.
 
2008-09-08 04:16:21 PM  
djh0101010: toonz: but to be fair, the actual quote is here:
white house press release (new window)

When responding to a question of Bin laden's whereabouts he basically says "who cares?" I think his reasoning surrounding that in the quote is plausible, in terms of the big picture, but it IS a reversal on his stance to "GET" those responsible.

So why do people like you use the fake quote? It's so obviously disproven, and you yourself have the actual transcript, so why bother? It just makes anything you say, at all, immediately suspect at best. Could it be because it's what you WISH he had said, and you're hoping nobody calls you on your lies? Because that's what it looks like from here.

Oh, and 'That is what he effectively said, so I am gonna use quotes even though he didn't say it'? No. Just farking no. Someone's biased misinterpretation of the point isn't a quote, it's a biased paraphrase.

If you're gonna disagree with the guy at least disagree with something he actually said, not a lie that someone wrote trying to twist what he did say.


Bush apologists getting their panties in a knot about how "true" something is HAS to be the HEIGHT of irony.

And it's not a lie.
He DID say he would get Bin Laden, then he said -half a year later- it didn't matter, then started gearing up for war with Iraq using MONUMENTAL LIES to do it so he could get revenge for an attempted assassination on his daddy.

He got his man.

So, where's the man that 3000 families want for ACTUALLY KILLING their loved ones?
 
2008-09-08 04:16:45 PM  
Came for the Airplane quotes... feeling somewhat satisfied

lazykracker.com

Make them blink in sequence!
 
2008-09-08 04:16:50 PM  
JDAT: What did we do from say 1993 up until then?

We continuously meddled in other nation's affairs, typically less major things but when you already have people pissed at you, they are not going to give you a pass on the small stuff, we were more subtle during the 90's and avoided outright attacks but we didn't exactly attempt to make any friends. We were doing because we felt it was right for our self interest and that is fine. But let's not pretend that no one else will have a problem with our actions. Just remember, every time we back one side over the other, or sell arms to a group, the other side might not feel very happy about it.
 
2008-09-08 04:17:01 PM  
toonz: When responding to a question of Bin laden's whereabouts he basically says "who cares?" I think his reasoning surrounding that in the quote is plausible, in terms of the big picture, but it IS a reversal on his stance to "GET" those responsible.

Did you even read that press conference release? He doesn't basically say "who cares?". He says Laden is on the run, out of a position of power, and not the one and only focus of their effort. I don't like the Bush, but you are interpreting this how you want.
 
2008-09-08 04:17:03 PM  
Theaetetus: fatgail: I didn't lose anyone personally,

Right, and then you come in here and tell those of us who did how we should grieve.
Welcome to Ignoreville. Population: you.


Who did you lose Theaetetus, and where were you on 9/11
 
2008-09-08 04:17:05 PM  
Just curious... are we going to do this again in three days. I'm tired of reading, just want to know if we can continue then.
Thanks!
 
2008-09-08 04:17:26 PM  
simian04: MmmVomit: I've got a blind date on September, 11. w00t.

Don't let her walk into the side of a building.

/Boo-ya!



I know a blind prostitute. It's a tough gig. Ya gotta hand it to her...
 
2008-09-08 04:17:29 PM  
jonnyh: schattenteufel: Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.


oh stop your whining.

I'm so damn tired of people acting all self-righteous & consedscending because of their "I take 9/11 more serously than you" bullcrap. Get over yourself & keep your misery to yourself. Different people cope in different ways. We can't all go 'round never talking about it & wearing black armbands & never having sex or enjoying ice cream again because a few thousand people died seven years ago.

You clearly have no insight into how witnessing the violent deaths of thousands of one's fellow citizens can have a profound effect on someone's psyche.

You have no idea what it's like to experience a jet plane flying directly over your home and then crashing into part of the skyline three blocks away. You simply cannot imagine the shock, the sounds, the horror. My mind still have difficulty comprehending it.

You have no clue what it is like to live with the smell of burning corpses for months. Or seeing crushed vehicles with blood-spatter that came from the driver being crushed by debris. Or seeing those posters for the missing, every day, and watching the ink and hope slowly fade.

You don't know what it is like to see loved ones just losing their shiat in panic and fear, becoming unrecognizable to you and being unable to give them answer to as to what's going on, or why.

Sadly, I know all of this and more, and I'll never quite get over it. I'll never be right again. I'll always cringe at the sound of a low-flying plane. I'll never get those sounds out of my head. I'll never be able to watch the documentaries without crying.

So go ahead, cope however the hell you want to, but don't tell me that making such a tragedy into entertainment is somehow a good and right thing.

If you, or any of the other shiatheads that think it cute to make entertainment out of 9/11 really feel that way, please come to NYC and tell me some tasteless jokes in person. Show me your stupid photoshops and cartoons.

Then see if any jury convicts me for what I'll do next.

//and learn how to spell, f-tard


WELL SAID!
both sides of this argument were comfy in bed or walking to school or at work or saw it on T.V.
tragedy.
ill see you in Manhattan this week!! for the memorial.
 
2008-09-08 04:17:49 PM  
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2008-09-08 04:18:12 PM  
Nutsac_Jim

So if I walk up to you and stab you in the stomach with a knife, you won't be mad at all? After all, you might have gotten into an auto accident this afternoon anyway, and had a piece of glass cut your stomach instead.

Of course not. One's a deliberate attack, one's an accident, though I think the majority of car "accidents" aren't.

My point is that death is the same outcome in either situation.

It seems to me we overreact to 9/11, while we simultaneously underreact to the fact that the roads are literally filled with idiots who endanger us on such a constant basis that at times it nearly seems routine.

I think both reactions are wrong. Ease up on the 9/11 hype. Anybody can get sucker punched...once. There won't be another domestic hijacking in the USA, well, ever.

Get more serious with people who drive recklessly, including the manufacture and sale of vehicles specifically designed for the purpose.

/Oh wait...that would infringe "our freedoms"....
 
2008-09-08 04:18:48 PM  
Tsunami Ditka: JDAT: I was surprised though by the whole "we had it coming" comment Obama made the other day. Seemed a little over the top to me.

/but that's just me.

I didn't see that. Link?


Look up the townhall speech in Aurora Ohio. Google it.
 
2008-09-08 04:19:29 PM  
darwinsmonkey: Just curious... are we going to do this again in three days. I'm tired of reading, just want to know if we can continue then.
Thanks!


By then we should have all of the addresses of the IPs from those pussies out there who keep taking cheap shots from their basements.
 
2008-09-08 04:20:14 PM  
freakay: The odd thing is that because we all watched it on tv there is that sort of shared experience I think. But I really tend to think that for most people (again, not New Yorkers) its like watching Private Ryan too many times and you start getting the two thousand yard stare...

The really odd thing is that this violence scene impacted everyone, yet we don't have the stomach to watch the violence that we have collectively unleashed.


Less than 5 minutes after the first impact, I was standing on Vescey Steeet almost directly underneath it, looking up at it like it was on TV.

With not a thought about my own safety, or the fact that in about an hour that building was gonna fall and the spot I was standing in would be obliterated.

It was unquestionably the single stupidest thing I have ever done, and I believe it is because we have seen so much on TV. It didn't really sink in that it was a real disaster with real danger...

...until impact #2, which woke me up and I got the f*** out of there.
 
2008-09-08 04:20:42 PM  
Samsaran: It will never happen. These people are cowards and would never say any such thing in public. It is interesting to wonder what would happen if one of these guys screwed up and started spouting some of this in a crowed tavern in a working class part of New York.
It's not really fair to call it cowardice when it's simply deciding not to go out and deliberately shout out opinions that would get you beaten up. This decision has no bearing on the validity of those opinions.

For example, I'd be very careful giving my opinions on gay rights anywhere in San Fransisco, or talking about my stance on abortion in any red state. It's simple common sense - right or wrong, there's no point inflaming violent thugs. Yes, if you beat somebody up because they have a Wrong Opinion, you are indeed a violent thug. And no, I don't think NY-ers, queers or pro-life people are generally violent thugs, but it makes sense to assume that at least one person in a public crowd has that potential.
 
2008-09-08 04:20:45 PM  
freakay:
The really odd thing is that this violence scene impacted everyone, yet we dont have the stomach to watch the violence that we have collectively unleashed.


"Why should we hear about body bags and deaths," Barbara Bush said on ABC's "Good Morning America" on March 18, 2003. "Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?" (new window)
 
2008-09-08 04:20:57 PM  
fatgail: Theaetetus:

Remember, everyone: there is only one proper way to grieve, no one is allowed to grieve in their own way. You are no longer allowed to cry at weddings or tell funny stories at funerals. All expressions of emotion must be sanctioned by the above three posters, because everyone is exactly the same.


Oh jesus. I can't wait to hear more about how you've been "greiving" all these years and if you didn't make hilarious jokes about people jumping off buildings or burning to a crisp you'd simply be reduced to a puddle of weeping mush...because tactless jokes that play to the lowest common denominator are the only way you can be convinced to carry on from day to day.

I'm so farking tired of the 'gallows humor' defense on here. It's like a loophole in a tax return. "I can make jokes about anything, any time and if anyone is offended by it, rather than pull back, I'll claim it a "grieving mechanism".


I get what you are saying, but to play devil's advocate here, I think gallows humor goes beyond the specific incident and addresses more of the fear of arbitrary death or the chaos of life. Let's face it, the idea that you might go to work one morning to wind up jumping to your death is pretty horrific. It makes the universe seem like a pretty cruel place. Think about it? No thanks. I'd rather make a tasteless joke. Well, not I, actually...but you get what I'm saying. Some people believe in mythology to avoid addressing the unknown. Other people talk loudly to drown out the horrible whispers from the black void. They are both ways of whistling in the dark.

/I'm sorry for those who lost, and those who died in terror
//I still laughed at the "weeeeeeeeeeee!" comment because it was so ridiculously out-of-place
///good thing I don't believe in hell
 
2008-09-08 04:20:58 PM  
toonz: If you're gonna disagree with the guy at least disagree with something he actually said, not a lie that someone wrote trying to twist what he did say.

Bush apologists getting their panties in a knot about how "true" something is HAS to be the HEIGHT of irony.

And it's not a lie.
He DID say he would get Bin Laden, then he said -half a year later- it didn't matter, then started gearing up for war with Iraq using MONUMENTAL LIES to do it so he could get revenge for an attempted assassination on his daddy.


Dude. You claimed it's a quote. It's not a farking quote. You have since admitted you know the actual transcript. You are therefore an admitted liar about the quote.

Why do you lie about the quote?

Now, about the whole blame Bush for the Iraq war thing. Do you blame the 110 Democrats who also voted for the "Authorization to use force in Iraq"? If not, why not? Couldn't have happened without 'em, you see. They told him to start the war, he did. If they hadn't, he could not have legally done so. It's not complicated. Yet your type blame him alone for going to war.

Let's see, now you're going to toss out the "last resort" lie, or the "there was conditional language in that resolution" lie. How about you not insult everyone's intelligence and skip that part? Because we both know how to use tah intarwebs to show the language of the resolution didn't include "last resort" or "if WMDs are found", don't we.

Why do you feel you have to lie to make Bush look bad? Could it be that the only way you can back up your flawed logic, is with lies? Doesn't that say an awful lot about your flawed point of view?
 
2008-09-08 04:21:35 PM  
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2008-09-08 04:21:48 PM  
Theaetetus: fatgail: I didn't lose anyone personally,

Right, and then you come in here and tell those of us who did how we should grieve.
Welcome to Ignoreville. Population: you.


Nope, like i've already said, "mr I don't read anything but my own posts", I don't give a rats ass how you grieve. i want you to prove that you're actually greiving..... Oh heck, don't make me type it all out again. I'll JUST COPY AND PASTE MY PREVIOUS POST THAT YOU DIDN'T READ:

Oh baby, I hope someday you learn how to read for understanding. I dont give a rat's ass how you grieve...the thing I hate is when you're not grieving at all, but use "grieving" as an excuse to make jokes about someone burning to death in a collapsing building. It's...well, it's lying. I'm not big on it. If you simply said "I'm a callous fark who likes to go out of his way to offend people", we'd at least all be on the same page.

Do you get it now? Oh good. You're cute.

oh, and in the future, keep your quotes in context when you're trying to be honest.
 
2008-09-08 04:22:10 PM  
TheNext: very hypocritical, just like both sides.....

...

I don't necessarily agree with the time at which we chose to unilaterally bring a brutal dictator down. I do believe it was the right thing to do, being the wealthiest nation in the world.




Hmmm... I can agree that being the wealthiest nation in the world is the right thing to do... can we start there?
 
2008-09-08 04:22:14 PM  
ivan: simian04: MmmVomit: I've got a blind date on September, 11. w00t.

Don't let her walk into the side of a building.

/Boo-ya!


I know a blind prostitute. It's a tough gig. Ya gotta hand it to her...


YES!
 
2008-09-08 04:22:16 PM  
lunkerslaire: darwinsmonkey: Just curious... are we going to do this again in three days. I'm tired of reading, just want to know if we can continue then.
Thanks!

By then we should have all of the addresses of the IPs from those pussies out there who keep taking cheap shots from their basements.


Dude, that's a little scary. Do you work for DHS?
 
2008-09-08 04:22:48 PM  
mister aj: Samsaran: It will never happen. These people are cowards and would never say any such thing in public. It is interesting to wonder what would happen if one of these guys screwed up and started spouting some of this in a crowed tavern in a working class part of New York.
It's not really fair to call it cowardice when it's simply deciding not to go out and deliberately shout out opinions that would get you beaten up. This decision has no bearing on the validity of those opinions.

For example, I'd be very careful giving my opinions on gay rights anywhere in San Fransisco, or talking about my stance on abortion in any red state. It's simple common sense - right or wrong, there's no point inflaming violent thugs. Yes, if you beat somebody up because they have a Wrong Opinion, you are indeed a violent thug. And no, I don't think NY-ers, queers or pro-life people are generally violent thugs, but it makes sense to assume that at least one person in a public crowd has that potential.


That is the best point all day - say what you want! However when you do eventually get your ass kicked up and down the street for pissing off someone who was hurt from 9/11 don't come crawling back here whining and crying like a little biatch.
 
2008-09-08 04:23:17 PM  
tweekster: JDAT: What did we do from say 1993 up until then?

We continuously meddled in other nation's affairs, typically less major things but when you already have people pissed at you, they are not going to give you a pass on the small stuff, we were more subtle during the 90's and avoided outright attacks but we didn't exactly attempt to make any friends. We were doing because we felt it was right for our self interest and that is fine. But let's not pretend that no one else will have a problem with our actions. Just remember, every time we back one side over the other, or sell arms to a group, the other side might not feel very happy about it.


O.K. so outside of normal relations there wasn't anything? Look we are not isolationists, and if we were then nations would be pissed at us for being isolationists. And remember this was not an attack by a country. That being said, I really don't think you could rationally look at any action that we have taken and say "there, that is a reasonable cause for killing thousands of innocent Americans." Either way I suppose it's a stupid argument to lok for it rationally. People who fly into buildings aren't all that reasonable to begin with.
 
2008-09-08 04:23:28 PM  
So the offensive humor argument again boils down to moral superiority vs intellectual superiority. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but if you're looking to avoid being offended, perhaps Fark isn't the place for you.

I think the main impetus for the Truthers is the inability to accept the fact that a small group of extremists could plan and execute(though not entirely successfully) such a devastating attack against the most powerful nation on earth. They certainly seem to view US agencies, secret or otherwise, as nearly omniscient and omnipotent.
 
2008-09-08 04:23:57 PM  
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2008-09-08 04:24:17 PM  
Theaetetus: fatgail: I didn't lose anyone personally,

Right, and then you come in here and tell those of us who did how we should grieve.
Welcome to Ignoreville. Population: you.


Oh change your diaper and take a nap already. And ignore me too while you're at it, pussy.
 
2008-09-08 04:24:27 PM  
My aunt is a minister and was working in a church just blocks away from the Twin Towers on the morning of 9/11. They used her church as a triage and she helped take care of the injured people to the best of her ability for as long as the first responders would let her (they eventually insisted she leave and get some rest). She can tell you some stories from that morning that would turn your ass white.

And you know what? Even she isn't as "OMG YOU MUST BE RESPECTFUL!!1!" as some of the sniveling whiners in here.
 
2008-09-08 04:25:06 PM  
jonnyh: You clearly have no insight into how witnessing the violent deaths of thousands of one's fellow citizens can have a profound effect on someone's psyche.

You have no idea what it's like to experience a jet plane flying directly over your home and then crashing into part of the skyline three blocks away. You simply cannot imagine the shock, the sounds, the horror. My mind still have difficulty comprehending it.

You have no clue what it is like to live with the smell of burning corpses for months. Or seeing crushed vehicles with blood-spatter that came from the driver being crushed by debris. Or seeing those posters for the missing, every day, and watching the ink and hope slowly fade.

You don't know what it is like to see loved ones just losing their shiat in panic and fear, becoming unrecognizable to you and being unable to give them answer to as to what's going on, or why.

Sadly, I know all of this and more, and I'll never quite get over it. I'll never be right again. I'll always cringe at the sound of a low-flying plane. I'll never get those sounds out of my head. I'll never be able to watch the documentaries without crying.

So go ahead, cope however the hell you want to, but don't tell me that making such a tragedy into entertainment is somehow a good and right thing.

If you, or any of the other shiatheads that think it cute to make entertainment out of 9/11 really feel that way, please come to NYC and tell me some tasteless jokes in person. Show me your stupid photoshops and cartoons.

Then see if any jury convicts me for what I'll do next.

//and learn how to spell, f-tard


You'll get over it.
 
2008-09-08 04:25:31 PM  
Hey, Samsaran

would happen if one of these guys screwed up and started spouting some of this in a crowed tavern in a working class part of New York.

I seriously doubt you have ever been to a working class part of town anywhere, but I will leave that alone for now.


The truth is, that here, outside of New York, most of America has gotten along just fine without your Jewish banking center.
 
2008-09-08 04:25:32 PM  
jonnyh: You clearly have no insight into how witnessing the violent deaths of thousands of one's fellow citizens can have a profound effect on someone's psyche.

You have no idea what it's like to experience a jet plane flying directly over your home and then crashing into part of the skyline three blocks away. You simply cannot imagine the shock, the sounds, the horror. My mind still have difficulty comprehending it.

You have no clue what it is like to live with the smell of burning corpses for months. Or seeing crushed vehicles with blood-spatter that came from the driver being crushed by debris. Or seeing those posters for the missing, every day, and watching the ink and hope slowly fade.

You don't know what it is like to see loved ones just losing their shiat in panic and fear, becoming unrecognizable to you and being unable to give them answer to as to what's going on, or why.

Sadly, I know all of this and more, and I'll never quite get over it. I'll never be right again. I'll always cringe at the sound of a low-flying plane. I'll never get those sounds out of my head. I'll never be able to watch the documentaries without crying.

So go ahead, cope however the hell you want to, but don't tell me that making such a tragedy into entertainment is somehow a good and right thing.

If you, or any of the other shiatheads that think it cute to make entertainment out of 9/11 really feel that way, please come to NYC and tell me some tasteless jokes in person. Show me your stupid photoshops and cartoons.

Then see if any jury convicts me for what I'll do next.

//and learn how to spell, f-tard


b4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com

Coach McGuirk: Man that was funny, what happened with Larry. He's messed up.
Anger Management Counsellor: It was a bit upsetting, yeah.
Coach McGuirk: Larry's a mess.
 
2008-09-08 04:25:55 PM  
MonkeyAngst: Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

According to your profile, you've been a Farker since January. How do you not get how this works by now?

Fark is the place where anything can be funny. ANYTHING. This doesn't mean "anything except that horribly tragic thing that changed everyone's life and killed lots of people." It means ANYTHING. This is the way things are here. If there are things that offend you, you WILL encounter them on Fark, and no one will apologize for it. There are places where it's not acceptable to laugh at tragedy. The largest of these is called "real life." If you are offended by the concept, you might want to hang out in one of those places instead of Fark.


Now I get it.. Fark is Comedy Central for comedians who don't have the balls to say this stuff Live, in front of an audience. Thank you for clearing that up.
 
2008-09-08 04:26:06 PM  
wylkyn:
I get what you are saying, but to play devil's advocate here, I think gallows humor goes beyond the specific incident and addresses more of the fear of arbitrary death or the chaos of life. Let's face it, the idea that you might go to work one morning to wind up jumping to your death is pretty horrific. It makes the universe seem like a pretty cruel place. Think about it? No thanks. I'd rather make a tasteless joke. Well, not I, actually...but you get what I'm saying. Some people believe in mythology to avoid addressing the unknown. Other people talk loudly to drown out the horrible whispers from the black void. They are both ways of whistling in the dark.



I absolutely, 100% understand gallows humor even though I rarely participate in it. It's just not my bag. I am very sarcastic, and I understand dark, dry, scary wit and it's place. It's when you get called on crossing the line and offending someone and you shoot back "SHUT UP I'M GREIVING" that i get pissed. Some folks on here are so hell bent on being tasteless that it probably startles them to hear someone be honest and say 'you hurt my feelings' or "you're being offensive", so they go on the defense by saying "I posted that Hulk Hogan Twin Towers picture out of grief" I doubt we'll find too many people who lost their mom on 9/11 posting LOLTWINTOWERS as a true grieving mechanism.

So yes, i get what you mean, and I wanted to clarify that it wasn't what I was talking about.
 
2008-09-08 04:26:13 PM  
tweekster: JDAT: What did we do from say 1993 up until then?

We continuously meddled in other nation's affairs, typically less major things but when you already have people pissed at you, they are not going to give you a pass on the small stuff, we were more subtle during the 90's and avoided outright attacks but we didn't exactly attempt to make any friends. We were doing because we felt it was right for our self interest and that is fine. But let's not pretend that no one else will have a problem with our actions. Just remember, every time we back one side over the other, or sell arms to a group, the other side might not feel very happy about it.


You mean we may have created many of the monsters we end up fighting?

School of the Americas anyone? Anyone?
 
2008-09-08 04:26:29 PM  
trappedspirit: toonz: When responding to a question of Bin laden's whereabouts he basically says "who cares?" I think his reasoning surrounding that in the quote is plausible, in terms of the big picture, but it IS a reversal on his stance to "GET" those responsible.

Did you even read that press conference release? He doesn't basically say "who cares?". He says Laden is on the run, out of a position of power, and not the one and only focus of their effort. I don't like the Bush, but you are interpreting this how you want.


I did read it. I have a response above stating basically, in the grand scheme, it makes sense, BUT considering the actual reason he went into Iraq, he owes the families of the deceased on 9/11 their man.

we've lost 4000 so far just so he could play push-button Inigo Montoya from his Ivory Tower, errr white house and avenge daddy. He owes the families of the 9/11 victims AT LEAST as much, yet he squandered our standing in the world, and went off on his big adventure elsewhere for selfish purposes, pulling troops from Afghanistan, allowing the original criminals we went after to regroup.

So no, I didn't read it the way I wanted to see it. I read it the way it has turned out.

Bin Laden, so what? I got Saddam for daddy!
 
2008-09-08 04:26:32 PM  
Johnnyh

The waaambulance. Let me call you it.
 
2008-09-08 04:26:51 PM  
TheNext: very hypocritical, just like both sides.....

Can't we all just agree that Saddam should still be torturing his people, plotting to use WMD (and using them too), invading other countries for profit, blatantly disregarding UN mandates, and letting his sons rape women for pleasure?

The UN did nothing about it. The EU didn't have enough backing to do anything about it (the second time).

America did.

I don't necessarily agree with the time at which we chose to unilaterally bring a brutal dictator down. I do believe it was the right thing to do, being the wealthiest nation in the world.

/back to your regularly schedulding bush bashing and talk of oil oil oil (which is also quite important, I might add)


Unlike Kim Jong Il, Ahmeninejad, Mugabe, Musharraf, Hu Jintao, and the 30 other dictators doing the exact same thing in much more public fashion? No, they didn't deserve it

Nah. Keep on drinking that Kool-aid! Keep on forgetting that the US invaded a country that was not imposing a direct threat to America OR it's allies.

Although I agree that sanctions against the Iraqi's were unfair and horrible, deposing a leader without even trying diplomatic means is a horrible way to impose democracy on a country and region not yet ready for it.

Although our intentions were great, remember how the US got started... We CHOSE democracy by overthrowing a leader we thought to be tyrannical. Now, we couldn't have done it without some help, but we did the majority of the work.

Iraq needs to choose it too. If they're not ready for it, they won't be able to keep it alive.

/I hope it works for them, but I have some grave doubts.
 
2008-09-08 04:26:52 PM  
lunkerslaire:
That is the best point all day - say what you want! However when you do eventually get your ass kicked up and down the street for pissing off someone who was hurt from 9/11 don't come crawling back here whining and crying like a little biatch.

ooi, would you have the same attitude towards somebody who got their ass handed to them by a fundy in a bar, just because they espoused the PoV that abortion should be legal or isn't a sin?

In civilised countries, it's not acceptable to inflict violence on another just because they have a different opinion, though we sometimes tolerate this kind of thing in the playground. I'm not so sure that America is a civilised country, despite the alleged love of free speech.
 
2008-09-08 04:26:55 PM  
jonnyh: If you, or any of the other shiatheads that think it cute to make entertainment out of 9/11 really feel that way, please come to NYC and tell me some tasteless jokes in person. Show me your stupid photoshops and cartoons.

Then see if any jury convicts me for what I'll do next.


No more 9/11 threads for you, mister!
 
2008-09-08 04:27:05 PM  
9/11 was one of those events where i will always remember incredibly clearly what i was doing when it happened (i think that's barely grammatically correct) kind of like the kennedy assassination for old people.

i'm from the midwest, where of course there isn't a building tall enough for a plane to crash into without landing first, but was at virginia tech at the time. the people there were much more frantic than i was.

still, i think that it's to the point where we can talk a little lightly of it, because no one who's making the jokes seriously believes that king kong would have saved us, or that Hulk mutherfarking Hogan could do that with a chair, not in 01, maybe in the 80's when he was in his prime, but by y2k he was way too washed up for something like BOTH towers
 
2008-09-08 04:27:21 PM  
Samsaran

I would pay to see it ... I really would.

You're agreeing with someone that wishes harm / death upon anyone that doesn't think / feel / grieve exactly the right way.

Good work, I knew I was onto something when I figured you for an asshat near the top of this thread.

I could wish harm on you. But that would make me a sick fark for wishing harm on another person simply because I disagree with them. Which is why I don't play the Internet Tough Guy, it's just bad karma and it's not a healthy mental state to be in.

/so many Internet Tough Guys around here
 
2008-09-08 04:28:22 PM  
toonz: I did read it. I have a response above stating basically, in the grand scheme, it makes sense, BUT considering the actual reason he went into Iraq, he owes the families of the deceased on 9/11 their man.

"he" could not have gone to Iraq without congressional approval. And those 110 Democrats are now pretending to not be involved, hands in pockets, looking skyward and whistling as if they didn't vote for it. And you're letting - helping them get away with that lie.
 
2008-09-08 04:28:23 PM  
schattenteufel: Sullasdog:

You clearly have no insight into how witnessing the violent deaths of thousands of one's fellow citizens can have a profound effect on someone's psyche.

You have no idea what it's like to experience a jet plane flying directly over your home and then crashing into part of the skyline three blocks away. You simply cannot imagine the shock, the sounds, the horror. My mind still have difficulty comprehending it.

You have no clue what it is like to live with the smell of burning corpses for months. Or seeing crushed vehicles with blood-spatter that came from the driver being crushed by debris. Or seeing those posters for the missing, every day, and watching the ink and hope slowly fade.

You don't know what it is like to see loved ones just losing their shiat in panic and fear, becoming unrecognizable to you and being unable to give them answer to as to what's going on, or why.

Sadly, I know all of this and more, and I'll never quite get over it. I'll never be right again. I'll always cringe at the sound of a low-flying plane. I'll never get those sounds out of my head. I'll never be able to watch the documentaries without crying.

So go ahead, cope however the hell you want to, but don't tell me that making such a tragedy into entertainment is somehow a good and right thing.

If you, or any of the other shiatheads that think it cute to make entertainment out of 9/11 really feel that way, please come to NYC and tell me some tasteless jokes in person. Show me your stupid photoshops and cartoons.

Then see if any jury convicts me for what I'll do next.

//and learn how to spell, f-tard

I know. Poor Iraqis. Guys stop making fun of them.
 
2008-09-08 04:28:24 PM  
mynewm5: MonkeyAngst: Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

According to your profile, you've been a Farker since January. How do you not get how this works by now?

Fark is the place where anything can be funny. ANYTHING. This doesn't mean "anything except that horribly tragic thing that changed everyone's life and killed lots of people." It means ANYTHING. This is the way things are here. If there are things that offend you, you WILL encounter them on Fark, and no one will apologize for it. There are places where it's not acceptable to laugh at tragedy. The largest of these is called "real life." If you are offended by the concept, you might want to hang out in one of those places instead of Fark.

Now I get it.. Fark is Comedy Central for comedians who don't have the balls to say this stuff Live, in front of an audience. Thank you for clearing that up.


Welcome to the intar-webs Mr. Romero.
 
2008-09-08 04:28:30 PM  
By then we should have all of the addresses of the IPs from those pussies out there who keep taking cheap shots from their basements.

Hay guize! They are getting our IP's... O noes!!!
 
2008-09-08 04:28:35 PM  
scalpod: tweekster: JDAT: What did we do from say 1993 up until then?

We continuously meddled in other nation's affairs, typically less major things but when you already have people pissed at you, they are not going to give you a pass on the small stuff, we were more subtle during the 90's and avoided outright attacks but we didn't exactly attempt to make any friends. We were doing because we felt it was right for our self interest and that is fine. But let's not pretend that no one else will have a problem with our actions. Just remember, every time we back one side over the other, or sell arms to a group, the other side might not feel very happy about it.

You mean we may have created many of the monsters we end up fighting?

School of the Americas anyone? Anyone?


Oh we created a plenty. Put Saddam in power, trained many Taliban operatives to give Russia a hard time, etc. etc. At the time though, it probably was the right move.
 
2008-09-08 04:28:49 PM  
Ah, I remember 9/11. Over at Berkeley High, they said anyone who was too upset to stay at school could take the day off. Hey, any excuse to leave is good enough for me. Sometimes there is an advantage to living in a over-sensitive pussy city.

Then again, there was nothing good on TV when I got home...
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...or for several weeks afterwards.
 
2008-09-08 04:29:30 PM  
I_Love_Cheesecake:
You do realise that the official story - that Osama Bin Laden and a rag-tag bunch of radical Muslims living in caves in Afghanistan masterminded the attacks - is a conspiracy theory, right?

To conspire means "to join in a secret agreement to do an unlawful or wrongful act or to use such means to accomplish a lawful end."

"Conspiracy theory": a theory that explains an event or set of circumstances as the result of a secret plot by usually powerful conspirators


an actual conspiracy is different than a theoretical conspiracy. in popular usage, a conspiracy theory is understood, operatively, as pejorative, baseless in fact.
 
2008-09-08 04:29:41 PM  
TheNext: very hypocritical, just like both sides.....

Can't we all just agree that Saddam ...


Oh, you're just adorable.

Honey, look -- it's a baby troll! He's trying to combine 9/11 and Iraq into one post all by himself. It's so cute!
 
2008-09-08 04:29:50 PM  
mynewm5: MonkeyAngst: Sullasdog: Yeah. Funny. Assholes.

According to your profile, you've been a Farker since January. How do you not get how this works by now?

Fark is the place where anything can be funny. ANYTHING. This doesn't mean "anything except that horribly tragic thing that changed everyone's life and killed lots of people." It means ANYTHING. This is the way things are here. If there are things that offend you, you WILL encounter them on Fark, and no one will apologize for it. There are places where it's not acceptable to laugh at tragedy. The largest of these is called "real life." If you are offended by the concept, you might want to hang out in one of those places instead of Fark.

Now I get it.. Fark is Comedy Central for comedians who don't have the balls to say this stuff Live, in front of an audience. Thank you for clearing that up.


I wonder what it is that makes you think that because it's said here, it won't be said 'on the streets'. I'll speak out anywhere at anytime about anything. And I still haven't 'had the crap beat out of me'. Do you whine only on fark comments but shut up 'on the streets'? Didn't think so. Run along now.
 
2008-09-08 04:30:00 PM  

Hey, d
id you guys hear about the man who wasupset about the Twin Towers pizza?

He ordered 2 large pepperonis but instead got 2 planes!
 
2008-09-08 04:30:02 PM  
mynewm5: Now I get it.. Fark is Comedy Central for comedians who don't have the balls to say this stuff Live, in front of an audience. Thank you for clearing that up.

Nope - there you go with your qualifiers again. What the person you are replying to said was "Fark is the place where anything can be funny. ANYTHING."

And he/she was right. Now go away.
 
2008-09-08 04:30:09 PM  
It was the biggest overreaction in history. You know that girl who cries for half an hour over a paper cut? You know that guy who smashes in his windshield over a flat tire? Yeah, that's us.

4 buildings
3000 people

This was not worth destroying our global reputation and Constitution over.

1,000,000 Americans died during the civil war. What happened to our sense of perspective? Fox news and Karl Rove happened to it. THAT I will never forget. It was pure treason. It still is. Where are my farking WMD's? And where is our $2 trillion?
 
2008-09-08 04:30:20 PM  
mister aj: lunkerslaire:
That is the best point all day - say what you want! However when you do eventually get your ass kicked up and down the street for pissing off someone who was hurt from 9/11 don't come crawling back here whining and crying like a little biatch.
ooi, would you have the same attitude towards somebody who got their ass handed to them by a fundy in a bar, just because they espoused the PoV that abortion should be legal or isn't a sin?

In civilised countries, it's not acceptable to inflict violence on another just because they have a different opinion, though we sometimes tolerate this kind of thing in the playground. I'm not so sure that America is a civilised country, despite the alleged love of free speech.


You misspelled civilized twice.

And what civilized country were you referring to there my Smarty Pants?
 
2008-09-08 04:30:23 PM  
outatime: And you know what? Even she isn't as "OMG YOU MUST BE RESPECTFUL!!1!" as some of the sniveling whiners in here.

OK, so I guess it will be better to just respond in kind.

Q: "What do you call 1,000 people who make jokes about 9/11 at the bottom of the ocean"
A: "A Good Start!"

Q: "How many people who make jokes about 9/11 does it take to change a light blub"
A: "None. Mom takes care of that"

A man walks into a bar. The bartender says "Hey, did you hear the one about the people who had to jump out of the WTC?" The man replied, "Yes, you mom told me while I was farking her in the ass with a pineapple, you ignorant douchebag!"

...forget it, it's not that fun.
 
2008-09-08 04:30:34 PM  
It's weird to think that it was seven years ago already. I was in middle school at the time (lol puberty), now I'm in college. I still remember it as if it happened last week though. I wasn't even in the same state but I still find it hard to forget the weeks of watching nothing but Food Network because I didn't want to acknowledge that bad things like that ever happened.
 
2008-09-08 04:31:19 PM  
jonnyh: Sadly, I know all of this and more, and I'll never quite get over it. I'll never be right again.

I understand, and I sincerely hope that you end up being wrong and that you do find some kind of healing.

I can hardly believe, although I'm no psychologist, that the process of healing will be helped by exposing yourself to a forum where making fun of tragedy is commonplace. If you see a Fark headline about something bad that happened, regardless of whether it happened years ago or is still ongoing, you can trust that inside you will find people actively mocking the event, its victims, those who exploit it, etc. If you're dealing with the emotional shock of such an event, why would you click into the thread? I'm afraid I don't understand that.
 
2008-09-08 04:32:58 PM  
The Dynamite Monkey: outatime

A man walks into a bar. The bartender says "Hey, did you hear the one about the people who had to jump out of the WTC?" The man replied, "Yes, you mom told me while I was farking her in the ass with a pineapple, you ignorant douchebag!"

...forget it, it's not that fun.



Hey, that one was pretty good!
 
2008-09-08 04:33:08 PM  
Can'tLetYouDoThatStarFox: Why do people place so much emphasis and sentimentality upon recurring dates? Dates are just a function of the mechanics of our solar system and calendar.

And people are just masses of organic molecules so no big deal if they're dead?

It takes all the humanity out of things to always reduce things to logic and science.
 
2008-09-08 04:34:03 PM  
MonkeyAngst: jonnyh: Sadly, I know all of this and more, and I'll never quite get over it. I'll never be right again.

I understand, and I sincerely hope that you end up being wrong and that you do find some kind of healing.

I can hardly believe, although I'm no psychologist, that the process of healing will be helped by exposing yourself to a forum where making fun of tragedy is commonplace. If you see a Fark headline about something bad that happened, regardless of whether it happened years ago or is still ongoing, you can trust that inside you will find people actively mocking the event, its victims, those who exploit it, etc. If you're dealing with the emotional shock of such an event, why would you click into the thread? I'm afraid I don't understand that.


A. Because it is fun
B. I can get worked up on a boring day.
C. I feel like defending those who suffered.
D. I can take aggression out to those who deserve a proper arse-kicking but are hiding behind a computer
E. I like the fun pictures even if they are offensive and easy to trace.
 
2008-09-08 04:34:05 PM  
lunkerslaire: mister aj: lunkerslaire:
That is the best point all day - say what you want! However when you do eventually get your ass kicked up and down the street for pissing off someone who was hurt from 9/11 don't come crawling back here whining and crying like a little biatch.
ooi, would you have the same attitude towards somebody who got their ass handed to them by a fundy in a bar, just because they espoused the PoV that abortion should be legal or isn't a sin?

In civilised countries, it's not acceptable to inflict violence on another just because they have a different opinion, though we sometimes tolerate this kind of thing in the playground. I'm not so sure that America is a civilised country, despite the alleged love of free speech.

You misspelled civilized twice.

My god, I made a spelling eror!

I notice you didn't answer my question about abortion - is it acceptable to inflict violence for any disagreement, or just when it's over an opinion that you disagree with?

I once broke a boy's nose when I was 12 because he said something mean to me (I think it was something about the area I lived, but I can't be sure). Last time I ever did something like that ... but that's because unlike the average American, I've grown up. Sticks and stone, etc.
 
2008-09-08 04:35:20 PM  
Lurkerbunny:

Then again, there was nothing good on TV when I got home...

...or for several weeks afterwards.


Oh man. You know what? The Onion issue two weeks after 9/11 was the A#1 perfect example of well played, well used gallows humor. Like one of the headlines said "Nation longs to worry about stupid bullshiat again". It was a pressure release, a laugh when everyone had been so heartbroken and serious for so long. I still have that issue along with all my newspapers from 9/11.

/i love that Lifetime still has Non-stop Golden Girls scheduled
 
2008-09-08 04:35:33 PM  
mynewm5: Now I get it.. Fark is Comedy Central for comedians who don't have the balls to say this stuff Live, in front of an audience. Thank you for clearing that up.

What I was saying is that real life is a place where it is inappropriate to say such things. Fark is a place where it is not. Just as church is a place where it is inappropriate to smoke a cigarette, and my living room is not. It helps to think of Fark as Drew's living room.
 
2008-09-08 04:36:21 PM  
actually, it would be 5/11/1605; europeans do the day/month/year format.
 
2008-09-08 04:36:39 PM  
The Dynamite Monkey: outatime: And you know what? Even she isn't as "OMG YOU MUST BE RESPECTFUL!!1!" as some of the sniveling whiners in here.

OK, so I guess it will be better to just respond in kind.

Q: "What do you call 1,000 people who make jokes about 9/11 at the bottom of the ocean"
A: "A Good Start!"

Q: "How many people who make jokes about 9/11 does it take to change a light blub"
A: "None. Mom takes care of that"

A man walks into a bar. The bartender says "Hey, did you hear the one about the people who had to jump out of the WTC?" The man replied, "Yes, you mom told me while I was farking her in the ass with a pineapple, you ignorant douchebag!"

...forget it, it's not that fun.


Well nothing's that fun when it's that corny. Up the ante untill you giggle.
 
2008-09-08 04:38:08 PM  
djh0101010: toonz: I did read it. I have a response above stating basically, in the grand scheme, it makes sense, BUT considering the actual reason he went into Iraq, he owes the families of the deceased on 9/11 their man.

"he" could not have gone to Iraq without congressional approval. And those 110 Democrats are now pretending to not be involved, hands in pockets, looking skyward and whistling as if they didn't vote for it. And you're letting - helping them get away with that lie.


he lied to them too. but that's cool right?

Guess what, idiot. I'm not a democrat. so you're not picking on MY people with your straw-man talking point rehashed 27%er nonsense. I've voted for far more republicans than democrats in my life. I just don't recognize this party as such these days.

Hey, If you're cool with Bush, more power to you. the fact that you'll go full out on some random guy on fark over "lies" and not even acknowledge any of the bullshiat this administration has spewed tells me how farked up your priorities are. Of course I notice a lot of Bush lovers have yet to attend an actual military funeral or deal with the REAL costs of these actions. As long as you buy into the "let's establish a constant state of scared-cat-ism and call the libtards the "pussies" and feel smugly superior in the process, I can't expect you to understand much else than your talking points anyway.
 
2008-09-08 04:38:32 PM  
mister aj: lunkerslaire: mister aj: lunkerslaire:
That is the best point all day - say what you want! However when you do eventually get your ass kicked up and down the street for pissing off someone who was hurt from 9/11 don't come crawling back here whining and crying like a little biatch.
ooi, would you have the same attitude towards somebody who got their ass handed to them by a fundy in a bar, just because they espoused the PoV that abortion should be legal or isn't a sin?

In civilised countries, it's not acceptable to inflict violence on another just because they have a different opinion, though we sometimes tolerate this kind of thing in the playground. I'm not so sure that America is a civilised country, despite the alleged love of free speech.

You misspelled civilized twice.
My god, I made a spelling eror!

I notice you didn't answer my question about abortion - is it acceptable to inflict violence for any disagreement, or just when it's over an opinion that you disagree with?

I once broke a boy's nose when I was 12 because he said something mean to me (I think it was something about the area I lived, but I can't be sure). Last time I ever did something like that ... but that's because unlike the average American, I've grown up. Sticks and stone, etc.


I thought your comment about abortion was irrelevant. Last time I punched someone in the face was 10th grade, and I hope not to have to do it again.

I don't understand where you are getting your averages from? Do you have a link to the stats?

I like this debate, it's fun - keep em coming!
 
2008-09-08 04:39:39 PM  
I'll never forget. I was reading a delightful book to a group of schoolchildren when I heard the news.djh0101010: Now, about the whole blame Bush for the Iraq war thing. Do you blame the 110 Democrats who also voted for the "Authorization to use force in Iraq"? If not, why not? Couldn't have happened without 'em, you see.

I blame them all. He was more culpable because he was the one leading the charge to war, but fark the people who didn't stand up to him. If we lived in a world where competence was required of our leaders, everyone involved in the decision to invade Iraq would have retired in disgrace.
 
2008-09-08 04:39:51 PM  
unfarkwithable: actually, it would be 5/11/1605; europeans do the day/month/year format.

i283.photobucket.com
And now I know.
 
2008-09-08 04:40:12 PM  
mister aj

I once broke a boy's nose when I was 12 because he said something mean to me (I think it was something about the area I lived, but I can't be sure). Last time I ever did something like that ... but that's because unlike the average American, I've grown up. Sticks and stone, etc.

I make it a point to quote posters that I generally don't agree with when I do actually agree with them. This is one of those times.

It's not right to wish harm or cause harm to Fred Phelps and his crew. It's not right to wish harm or cause it upon gay bashers, abortion clinic picketers, Scientologists, right-wing loonies, left-wing loonies, Objectivists, Marxists, Che-wannabes, whatever.

Do unto others, etc etc.
 
2008-09-08 04:40:33 PM  
darwinsmonkey: Dude, that's a little scary. Do you work for DHS?

No, hes that fat guy with the skin condition and backpack that you see hanging around the pewter figures at the Hallmark store.

Be careful though...he's got NUN CHUCKS in that backpack!
 
2008-09-08 04:40:49 PM  
lunkerslaire: mister aj: lunkerslaire: mister aj: lunkerslaire:
That is the best point all day - say what you want! However when you do eventually get your ass kicked up and down the street for pissing off someone who was hurt from 9/11 don't come crawling back here whining and crying like a little biatch.
ooi, would you have the same attitude towards somebody who got their ass handed to them by a fundy in a bar, just because they espoused the PoV that abortion should be legal or isn't a sin?

In civilised countries, it's not acceptable to inflict violence on another just because they have a different opinion, though we sometimes tolerate this kind of thing in the playground. I'm not so sure that America is a civilised country, despite the alleged love of free speech.

You misspelled civilized twice.
My god, I made a spelling eror!

I notice you didn't answer my question about abortion - is it acceptable to inflict violence for any disagreement, or just when it's over an opinion that you disagree with?

I once broke a boy's nose when I was 12 because he said something mean to me (I think it was something about the area I lived, but I can't be sure). Last time I ever did something like that ... but that's because unlike the average American, I've grown up. Sticks and stone, etc.

I thought your comment about abortion was irrelevant. Last time I punched someone in the face was 10th grade, and I hope not to have to do it again.

Oh right, I thought you were one of the violence-advocates on here. Did I make a mistake?

I like this debate, it's fun - keep em coming!
That's what your mom said.

When I was having sexual intercourse with her the other night.
 
2008-09-08 04:40:51 PM  
i59.photobucket.com
 
2008-09-08 04:41:24 PM  
we_hates: I'll never forget. I was reading a delightful book to a group of schoolchildren when I heard the news.djh0101010: Now, about the whole blame Bush for the Iraq war thing. Do you blame the 110 Democrats who also voted for the "Authorization to use force in Iraq"? If not, why not? Couldn't have happened without 'em, you see.

I blame them all. He was more culpable because he was the one leading the charge to war, but fark the people who didn't stand up to him. If we lived in a world where competence was required of our leaders, everyone involved in the decision to invade Iraq would have retired in disgrace.


word. or this, or whatever the kids are saying these days.
 
2008-09-08 04:42:10 PM  
Tsunami Ditka: JDAT: I was surprised though by the whole "we had it coming" comment Obama made the other day. Seemed a little over the top to me.

/but that's just me.

I didn't see that. Link?


Here, I dug it up for you. Link (town hall speech)
 
2008-09-08 04:43:11 PM  
JDAT

You magnificent bastard. God bless Flashblock.
 
2008-09-08 04:43:19 PM  
The Dynamite Monkey: ...forget it, it's not that fun.

Try being funny next time, see how that goes.
 
2008-09-08 04:43:19 PM  
simian04: Well nothing's that fun when it's that corny. Up the ante untill you giggle.

The point... you have missed it.
 
2008-09-08 04:43:56 PM  
outatime: Try being funny next time, see how that goes.

You have also missed it.
 
2008-09-08 04:44:06 PM  
fatgail: So yes, i get what you mean, and I wanted to clarify that it wasn't what I was talking about.

Let me just start by restating that I don't make these kinds of jokes, at least not to people who I don't know. I do care about what other people feel, and I don't like to offend or make anyone feel bad. (So what the Fark am I doing here?)

I agree that to claim "grieving" is pretty weak. But the point that I was trying to make is that I don't think any of these so called "callous" people who make the jokes (or double them when they are challenged) even know why they really do it. I think it is as much a knee-jerk reaction as praying is to some people. I don't say this as a way to excuse, so much as just a way to understand. You can still call them on it...be my guest. I agree with you. But I also recognize the need to make tasteless jokes as a defense mechanism. It's just my take on it, and I wanted to throw it out there. Not trying to judge anyone or claim that I am above such things. We're all just meat puppets trying to cope with all the crap life throws at us, usually well after it has knocked us on our ass. I think, on the whole, we do pretty well most of the time...when we're not blowing shiat up.
 
2008-09-08 04:44:06 PM  
MonkeyAngst: mynewm5: Now I get it.. Fark is Comedy Central for comedians who don't have the balls to say this stuff Live, in front of an audience. Thank you for clearing that up.

What I was saying is that real life is a place where it is inappropriate to say such things. Fark is a place where it is not. Just as church is a place where it is inappropriate to smoke a cigarette, and my living room is not. It helps to think of Fark as Drew's living room.


Damn you. Now I have to go to church to smoke a cigarette.
 
2008-09-08 04:44:16 PM  
mister aj: lunkerslaire: mister aj: lunkerslaire: mister aj: lunkerslaire:
That is the best point all day - say what you want! However when you do eventually get your ass kicked up and down the street for pissing off someone who was hurt from 9/11 don't come crawling back here whining and crying like a little biatch.
ooi, would you have the same attitude towards somebody who got their ass handed to them by a fundy in a bar, just because they espoused the PoV that abortion should be legal or isn't a sin?

In civilised countries, it's not acceptable to inflict violence on another just because they have a different opinion, though we sometimes tolerate this kind of thing in the playground. I'm not so sure that America is a civilised country, despite the alleged love of free speech.

You misspelled civilized twice.
My god, I made a spelling eror!

I notice you didn't answer my question about abortion - is it acceptable to inflict violence for any disagreement, or just when it's over an opinion that you disagree with?

I once broke a boy's nose when I was 12 because he said something mean to me (I think it was something about the area I lived, but I can't be sure). Last time I ever did something like that ... but that's because unlike the average American, I've grown up. Sticks and stone, etc.

I thought your comment about abortion was irrelevant. Last time I punched someone in the face was 10th grade, and I hope not to have to do it again.
Oh right, I thought you were one of the violence-advocates on here. Did I make a mistake?

I like this debate, it's fun - keep em coming!
That's what your mom said.

When I was having sexual intercourse with her the other night.


I am glad I pissed you off today, however I do have to run, but I will be back on 9/11 to stir up some more goodness. PS nice Mom comment, however she would kick your ass for saying that.
 
2008-09-08 04:44:38 PM  
The Dynamite Monkey: simian04: Well nothing's that fun when it's that corny. Up the ante untill you giggle.

The point... you have missed it.


Nah, he saw what you were trying to do. You just failed to do it well.
 
2008-09-08 04:44:45 PM  
You must be really bored.
 
2008-09-08 04:45:38 PM  
Samsaran: Many of us, not then born, remember Pearl Harbor. I will remember 9/11 for the rest of my life.

That day was a wake up call to the West that some elements within Islam, not all of Islam by any means, but a large proportion tiny band of wackos, had declared war on our culture. This war continues. It is not something "made up" by the Republicans, it is not just a few wild eyed crazies in the caves of Afghanistan. No, the Islamic world resents us lives all around us and contributes to the world in many meaningful ways. They still recall the days of their glory and work to create many more. They still recall the time, centuries ago, when their armies marched in triumph across the face of the Mediterranean world, Byzantium, India, right up to the doors of Vienna. They recall when their physicians, philosophers, scientists, poets and artists were far beyond anything that barbaric Europe could muster. These days are long gone now. They chafe under the knowledge that even with their oil wealth, their culture has stagnated and fallen far behind the West. They, like childrencrusty old Conservatives, blame us moral declines in society for their failure.

No amount of war, no amount of terror, no amount of savagery will restore their former glory. They must, if they are to survive, cast aside their 14th century shackles and bring Islam and the Islamic world into the community of nations, something they will continue to do every day around the world.


EVERY group has a band of wackos who are intent on destroying society to fit their goals. The VAST majority of Muslims (including every one that I know personally) feel terrible about this, and are trying to show the world that Islam IS a peaceful religion.

/And the word of the day, children, seems to be bigotry.
//Sorry for feeding the trolls.
///And, if you want to see what happens when conservatism wins, just look in the Middle East. This is what happens when conservative traditions triumph over reason and tolerance.
 
2008-09-08 04:45:56 PM  
The other thing I remember is how friends from overseas emailed me (living in the Midwest) with condolences in the week after the attack.

Now most of those friends refuse to come to America.

/ok...unleashing the "we dont want them here anyway"
//and unleashing French/Euro bashing
///thing is it was actually kind of nice of them to do that...and now we look like chumps
 
2008-09-08 04:46:06 PM  
mister aj: Samsaran: It will never happen. These people are cowards and would never say any such thing in public. It is interesting to wonder what would happen if one of these guys screwed up and started spouting some of this in a crowed tavern in a working class part of New York.
It's not really fair to call it cowardice when it's simply deciding not to go out and deliberately shout out opinions that would get you beaten up. This decision has no bearing on the validity of those opinions.

For example, I'd be very careful giving my opinions on gay rights anywhere in San Fransisco, or talking about my stance on abortion in any red state. It's simple common sense - right or wrong, there's no point inflaming violent thugs. Yes, if you beat somebody up because they have a Wrong Opinion, you are indeed a violent thug. And no, I don't think NY-ers, queers or pro-life people are generally violent thugs, but it makes sense to assume that at least one person in a public crowd has that poten