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(Washington Post)   Remember the mayor delivered drugs by mistake, and then the police raided his house and shot his dogs? They sheriff's office did a study and concluded they were correct to shoot the dogs, one of them while it was fleeing in terror   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 532
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2008-09-05 01:21:18 PM
nijika: Psumek: The pic from the article is kinda telling. The mayor has the dogs in muzzles. Not really what you expect from labs unless they are aggressive. Maybe they actually were.

Oh! Well, ok then..

/ Apologist much?


You are forgetting the blame the victim mentality of many farkers. Damn dog should not have worn that dress.
 
2008-09-05 01:22:17 PM
farm3.static.flickr.com

/Approves
 
2008-09-05 01:22:24 PM
jst3p: Again, I am not defending them shooting the fleeing dogs, but in a drug bust they don't know for sure who is inside and how they will react. It is best to use the element of surprise to control the situation as quickly as possible.

They did not use the element of surprise they used the element of Pb.
 
2008-09-05 01:23:22 PM
EngineerBoy:

If you extrapolate the fleeing dog's vector far enough, he was coming right at them...

Excellent hyperbolae.
 
2008-09-05 01:23:52 PM
Whitey wouldn't have been shot...

www.whiteshepherdbreeder.com

www.rocknrollk9s.com

/Loves me some white shepherds
//Has one
///Wishes the AKC didn't hate whitey
 
2008-09-05 01:24:32 PM
And just like last thread, this bears repeating:

http://www.cato.org/raidmap/ (pops to new window)
 
2008-09-05 01:26:04 PM
The Mayor should make sure that report is the last report that Sheriff or any of those deputys ever release.
 
2008-09-05 01:26:07 PM
My dad is a cop almost at retirement, and he absolutely hates cops now adays. He approves of my "question Authority" mindset. Just remember, the burden of truth is on the state, and everyone needs to understand their rights. If you are being questioned in the streets by a cop about something, you aren't under arrest until they restrain you. Dad is a cop, and I served in the military, but I believe this police state bullshiat needs to be stood up to.

/Fark the police.
 
2008-09-05 01:26:07 PM
aiiee: FARKING pigs


ftfy
 
2008-09-05 01:27:13 PM
Anyone know where I can get a gentle leader? Psumek, any ideas?
 
2008-09-05 01:28:50 PM
jst3p: And let's face it, if you or I had the opportunity to kick in a door and bust in screaming "GET DOWN MOTHER FARKERS!" we would probably use any excuse to justify it

Only if I was raiding the house of a LEO.
 
2008-09-05 01:29:14 PM
Teufel232: FuturePastNow: SpectroBoy: Why the major swat style entrance? There was no risk of him flushing the evidence, it was 32 FREAKIN POUNDS of pot.

Because they could. Because the Department of Homeland Security has bought every other little pissant town and county a SWAT team, and those departments want to play with their new toy. They want to justify its existence, and although they're never going to see a terrorist, druggies are all over the place.

Or maybe because in the past, when police went to just go knock on the door to talk to someone that they had evidence (even though, in this case, it was misleading ... but they found that out after the fact) that someone was part of a drug ring, they ended up dead. Of course, they should have staked the place out for a while to have absolutely concrete evidence, first.


But in this case, they had no reason to believe that was going to happen. In fact, i'm not entirely sure I understand why the cops were sending the mayor over 30 pounds of cannabis. The sequence of events seems a bit odd to me.

1. Federal drug task force agents (for reasons unknown) decided to set up the mayor.
2. A heavily armed tactical response team is set up.
3. Federal agents send the mayor 30 pounds of pot.
4. As the package is delivered, and before anyone in the house can even blink, the tactical squad hits the house in full force, killing the startled and fleeing pets in the process of entry.


oook, so why was the federal government mailing the mayor all that cannabis in the first place? That's the part I don't get.
 
2008-09-05 01:29:24 PM
HolyGeekboy: And just like last thread, this bears repeating:

http://www.cato.org/raidmap/ (pops to new window)



Looking at that map, how can that be the "United Police States of America" if North Dakota and Wyoming aren't going to play along??
 
2008-09-05 01:30:47 PM
scottywotty: jst3p: And let's face it, if you or I had the opportunity to kick in a door and bust in screaming "GET DOWN MOTHER FARKERS!" we would probably use any excuse to justify it

Only if I was raiding the house of a LEO.


Why do you hate people born between July 23 and August 22?
 
2008-09-05 01:32:28 PM
jst3p:
Again, I am not defending them shooting the fleeing dogs, but in a drug bust they don't know for sure who is inside and how they will react. It is best to use the element of surprise to control the situation as quickly as possible.

And let's face it, if you or I had the opportunity to kick in a door and bust in screaming "GET DOWN MOTHER FARKERS!" we would probably use any excuse to justify it.


You've been on my favorite list for a long time, but this comment really bugs me. Nobody should be busting down doors and shooting up the place over some weed. Ever.

It just takes situations like this where's it's an innocent mayor and the police are illegally executing the warrant to prove just how stupid and dangerous this behavior is.
 
2008-09-05 01:33:04 PM
An internal investigation finding no wrongdoing? You don't say...
 
2008-09-05 01:34:14 PM
klisejo: An internal investigation finding no wrongdoing? You don't say...

I'd have settled for just finding out why the cops mailed the mayor 30 lbs of pot. wtf is up that?
 
2008-09-05 01:34:33 PM
jst3p: simple really

I'm putting that in your farky.
 
2008-09-05 01:35:44 PM
Don't forget that Nixon started the War on Drugs, Reagan escalated it and the Democrats rode on the tails of a coat stuffed with money.

In November we get to choose between these assh0les.
 
2008-09-05 01:35:59 PM
miracledirt: I'm mailing 32 lbs of pot to Mr. Lee's Greater Hong Kong.

Should be a giggle.


Maybe not a bad idea, but throw in some wire and pipes and a few dozen supressed .22's. Then send it to this police chief's house and tip off homeland security...good times.

/Just because the system is broken doesn't mean we can't use it to our advantage too...
 
2008-09-05 01:36:32 PM
Glock 31 .357 Sig with the 125 grain Full Metal Jacket ammo will penetrate all N.I.J. threat Level IIA,Level II and Level IIIA tactical body armor.


If you you are scared of the thought of an "inevitable police state"
it's something to think about.

I find the very idea of wishing harm against a public servant utterly despicable.

I find the idea of armored fascist goons kicking down my door even more despicable.
 
2008-09-05 01:38:05 PM
If i was him, i would consider going to the Sheriff's home and killing his child(ren) and wife in front of him, but letting him live.

You take out two members of my family? I take out two of yours. And yes, you have to watch.
 
2008-09-05 01:38:12 PM
albtraum: I'm actually kind of disgusted by the language used in the article.
Please keep in mind that this is describing a dog:

"...he fled..."

no. IT. IT RAN AWAY.

I'm not condoning shooting dogs in the back, but any article that uses "he fled" to describe a dog is messed up. We have a language for a reason. If there's no linguistic difference between a dog running away and a male human being fleeing, I give up.


Proper usage is 'he' when the gender of the animal is known and 'it' when unknown. This is true in English and other gendered languages. For example in German a male cat would be der Kater while a female one would be die Katze. And no, In English there is no linguistic difference between a gendered person and a gendered dog outside that you cannot use a pronoun for a person whose gender has not been identified. In other gendered languages, however, the masculine and feminine pronouns don't necessarily indicate gender like they do in English.
 
2008-09-05 01:38:14 PM
The answer is simple:

Go to the Sheriff's house. See if he has a pet. If he does, bring it out into the front yard and shoot it. Multiple times. Preferably in front of the kids. I don't care if its a dog, a kitty, a hamster or a freaking goldfish.

Normally I'm not one to wish injury or death to a harmless, defenseless animal, but in this case, I think the sheriff has it coming to him.

/I'm in a crappy mood since I had to have my greyhound put down earlier this week. RIP Scamp.
 
2008-09-05 01:38:44 PM
Cop 99.99998% suck at being people and there worse at there Jobs.
/ But have the best drugs.
 
2008-09-05 01:39:00 PM
HolyGeekboy: jst3p:
Again, I am not defending them shooting the fleeing dogs, but in a drug bust they don't know for sure who is inside and how they will react. It is best to use the element of surprise to control the situation as quickly as possible.

And let's face it, if you or I had the opportunity to kick in a door and bust in screaming "GET DOWN MOTHER FARKERS!" we would probably use any excuse to justify it.

You've been on my favorite list for a long time, but this comment really bugs me. Nobody should be busting down doors and shooting up the place over some weed. Ever.

It just takes situations like this where's it's an innocent mayor and the police are illegally executing the warrant to prove just how stupid and dangerous this behavior is.


I am all in favor of legalizing it, but until it is legal if you decide to keep 30 pounds of it around the house you run the risk of armed people busting in and throwing everyone to the floor.

I will admit I may be unaware of the details of this case but I don't remember reading the part in the article that says the police illegally executed a warrant. Care to enlighten me?
 
2008-09-05 01:39:38 PM
I am a police officer and if I was investigated for every perp's dog I killed, IA would be doing nothing but investigations.
 
2008-09-05 01:40:11 PM
savage henry: jst3p: simple really

I'm putting that in your farky.


I hope you plan in buying me dinner first.
 
2008-09-05 01:41:20 PM
Ranger Joe: The answer is simple:

Go to the Sheriff's house. See if he has a pet. If he does, bring it out into the front yard and shoot it. Multiple times. Preferably in front of the kids. I don't care if its a dog, a kitty, a hamster or a freaking goldfish.

Normally I'm not one to wish injury or death to a harmless, defenseless animal, but in this case, I think the sheriff has it coming to him.

/I'm in a crappy mood since I had to have my greyhound put down earlier this week. RIP Scamp.


I really rather just shoot the asshole sheriff in the ass with a crossbow bolt with a copy of the Constitution wrapped around it.
 
2008-09-05 01:41:45 PM
craigdamage: Glock 31 .357 Sig with the 125 grain Full Metal Jacket ammo will penetrate all N.I.J. threat Level IIA,Level II and Level IIIA tactical body armor.


If you you are scared of the thought of an "inevitable police state"
it's something to think about.

I find the very idea of wishing harm against a public servant utterly despicable.

I find the idea of armored fascist goons kicking down my door even more despicable.


Yeah well good luck with that moment of glory (if you live through it) when you're locked up for life for attempted murder of a PO.

/that's the trouble with these no-knock warrants -- you either sit their and let them shoot their paramilitary wad or resist and get shot or jailed
 
2008-09-05 01:42:17 PM
RetiredTroll:
oh, and these people approve, way to go Amerika!!!!!:


I see a pic of two Americans and two liberals. Thank you?
 
2008-09-05 01:42:20 PM
Psumek: The pic from the article is kinda telling. The mayor has the dogs in muzzles. Not really what you expect from labs unless they are aggressive. Maybe they actually were.

I'm sure someone must have noted it already, but those are gentle leaders, not muzzles. Supposed to be better for walking dogs, as it turns their head rather than just holding them back like a normal leash does (which many dogs instinctually resist, and therefore pull their owners all over the place). Doesn't do anything to prevent them from biting, though.
 
2008-09-05 01:42:43 PM
Ranger Joe: The answer is simple:

Go to the Sheriff's house. See if he has a pet. If he does, bring it out into the front yard and shoot it. Multiple times. Preferably in front of the kids. I don't care if its a dog, a kitty, a hamster or a freaking goldfish.

Normally I'm not one to wish injury or death to a harmless, defenseless animal, but in this case, I think the sheriff has it coming to him.

/I'm in a crappy mood since I had to have my greyhound put down earlier this week. RIP Scamp.


And condolences on your loss.
 
2008-09-05 01:42:44 PM
Rest easy knowing that by following the law and being a good citizen, you could be next.
 
2008-09-05 01:42:56 PM
It was over 30 pounds of pot. One would think that the person the package was addressed to was a hard core drug dealer. So, the SWAT raid. However, there are better ways. Many departments prefer to pick the suspects up on a pull over on the street. Or get them as they leave the house in the front yard - i think NBC knows something about this.
 
2008-09-05 01:43:13 PM
Very late to the party, but it's important to repeat:

Internal police investigation?

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
2008-09-05 01:44:11 PM
Ranger Joe: /I'm in a crappy mood since I had to have my greyhound put down earlier this week. RIP Scamp.

It could be worse, I just found out I am a sociopath and a "shiatty person" because I don't love dogs.
 
2008-09-05 01:45:43 PM
They them dogs were black meth-labs!
 
2008-09-05 01:46:25 PM
The police can kill anybody they like. That much should be pretty obvious by now. 175 (human) citizens have died in police custody in Las Vegas since the mid 70s. Internal investigations haven't concluded police misconduct in a single case.
 
2008-09-05 01:47:04 PM
pinch_harmonics: Very late to the party, but it's important to repeat:

Internal police investigation?

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Reminds me of something that happened at work:

Boss: Jst3p, can you send the sudo logs from suchandsuch server to the sarbox auditors?
Me: Sure, just e-mail them?
Boss: Yes.
Me: What do they do with them?
Boss: The keep track of what the admins do on this server because it contains financial data.
Me: So they want to watch what we do, and in order to do that they rely on us to send them a plain text file that is a log of what we are doing?
Boss: Yeah... I know... I know.... just send it to them please.
 
2008-09-05 01:47:12 PM
www.californiacriminallawyerblog.com

//still feel safer with them around
///the dogs i mean
 
2008-09-05 01:47:41 PM
mstang1988: Whitey wouldn't have been shot...

/Loves me some white shepherds
//Has one
///Wishes the AKC didn't hate whitey


ditto

farm4.static.flickr.com

farm3.static.flickr.com
 
2008-09-05 01:48:37 PM
j0e_average: Two more victims of the "war on drugs".

the war on dogs?
 
2008-09-05 01:49:16 PM
AbortionsForAll: jst3p: tdpatriots12: jst3p: I will never understand why some people get so attached to animals.

They were just dogs.

That's the difference between pet owners and non-pet owners? Those cops were obviously the latter.

And don't get me wrong, I don't excuse what the cops did because while I don't understand the attachment I understand that the attachment exists.

I just have never "gotten it" personally.

If you can't love a pet, you are probably a sociopath.


or if you think all cops should die...

just sayin'...
 
2008-09-05 01:49:58 PM
SWAT is trained to break a lot of stuff (doors, furniture, etc.) during a raid on the theory that it intimidates the inhabitants and will make them less likely to resist. I suspect gunning down dogs fits right in to that mindset. It would be interesting to do a survey of past raids and see what percentage of dogs survive them.

If I were this mayor, I'd be demanding a grand jury investigation of this entire mess. If found to be in the wrong, if the sheriff of this county is an elected official, the mayor should endeavor to get him thrown out of office in the next election.
 
2008-09-05 01:50:27 PM
Fascism is a small price to pay to keep people from getting high.
 
2008-09-05 01:51:21 PM
Why was the mayor's dogs in mussles? The cops had to shoot them, they must have ben vicious.
 
2008-09-05 01:53:23 PM
Your zombie dog wants a stake. Through the heart.
 
2008-09-05 01:53:41 PM
demonbug: Psumek: The pic from the article is kinda telling. The mayor has the dogs in muzzles. Not really what you expect from labs unless they are aggressive. Maybe they actually were.

I'm sure someone must have noted it already, but those are gentle leaders, not muzzles. Supposed to be better for walking dogs, as it turns their head rather than just holding them back like a normal leash does (which many dogs instinctually resist, and therefore pull their owners all over the place). Doesn't do anything to prevent them from biting, though.




no, no one noted it, thank you for reading the thread before posting!!!
 
2008-09-05 01:54:01 PM
This is terrible
 
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