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2002-12-19 12:33:23 AM
Well duh. Just shows how well companies can manage to screw the consumer. This obvious tag isn't big enough.
 
2002-12-19 12:34:02 AM
 
2002-12-19 02:02:08 AM
what in the everlasting fark is that?
 
2002-12-19 02:02:47 AM
Jack - Couldn't you make that any bigger?
 
2002-12-19 02:03:13 AM
*requisite smugh pro-Canada, anti-capitalist-healthcare-system comment*
 
2002-12-19 02:08:29 AM
That's an insult to my people's heritage.
 
2002-12-19 02:10:58 AM
Ya, kind of funny...we Americans sit back and laugh at Canada and it "failed social medicine program" yet allow ourselves to get a$$ raped by HMO's, bad politicians, insert or favorite social gripe here, etc. At least in Canada you CAN get medical work done. Here it justs depends on where you are on the financial ladder. Bah, its late.
 
2002-12-19 02:11:23 AM
I have the sudden urge to play Duckhunt.
 
2002-12-19 02:14:15 AM


am i the only one that always wanted to shoot the damn dog when he laughed at you?
 
2002-12-19 02:14:48 AM
Whassat supposed to be, Jack? It's almost Bevetsian in its irrelevence. It will be assimilated.
 
2002-12-19 02:14:49 AM
Those HMO companies are rip offs.. I swear.. So check this out, the place I work that sort of contracts to another organization for its benefits package (Cal-Pers), drops my insurance company. I was like, whatever, I can go with said company on my own since I already have been covered by them anyways. So I get a letter from them after I applied saying that I needed to submit my medical records for the last 2 years (and if it cost me anything, it was at my expense). Needless to say, I have been covered by said company for at least 2 years on my own, plus another 10 years when I was on my parents coverage. Farking idiots!
 
2002-12-19 02:16:24 AM
You can shoot the dog on i-mockery, but it's kind of a pain.
 
2002-12-19 02:17:50 AM
JackEnStein
its an indian from america and ducks.

I can see that. What's it got to do with greedy HMOs?
 
2002-12-19 02:18:02 AM
Grammar Police in

3...

2...

1...
 
2002-12-19 02:18:04 AM
Early each day to the steps
of Saint Paul's,
The little old Bird Woman comes.

In her own special way
to the people she calls,
"Come, buy my bags
full of crumbs."

"Come feed the little birds,
show them you care,
And you'll be glad if you do --

Their young ones are hungry,
their nests are so bare;
All it takes is tuppence from you."

Feed the birds,
tuppence a bag,
Tuppence, tuppence,
tuppence a bag.

"Feed the birds,
" that's what she cries,
While overhead,
her birds fill the skies.

All around the cathedral,
the saints and apostles
Look down as she sells her wares;

Although you can't see it,
you know they are smiling
Each time someone
shows that he cares.

Though her words
are simple and few,
Listen, listen,
she's calling to you --

"Feed the birds,
tuppence a bag,
Tuppence, tuppence,
tuppence a bag."



Though her words are
simple and few,
Listen, listen,
she's calling to you --

"Feed the birds,
tuppence a bag,
Tuppence, tuppence,
tuppence a bag.
 
2002-12-19 02:20:16 AM


this what we're looking for?
 
2002-12-19 02:21:17 AM
Damn greedy ducks, takin' all of our Natives.
 
2002-12-19 02:24:07 AM
National health systems not looking so bad, now.
 
2002-12-19 02:24:38 AM
 
2002-12-19 02:25:27 AM
Great news. This means that everyone's benefits will increase, and that their premiums will go down! Employers everywhere might finally be able to provide each of their valued employees the quality health care they had previously only dreamed they could give.
 
2002-12-19 02:26:50 AM
I hear the HMOs are planning on eliminating TREATING pregnancies alltogether. All about the bottom line ya know.

VOTE REPUBLICAN.
 
2002-12-19 02:31:07 AM
Actually this is not obvious at all. While I consider HMO's evil, you'll find that they have a lot of difficulty being profitable. From the article

"Health plans are catching up from three years of consistent losses, Gannon said."

Furthermore:

"HMOs are raising rates, in part, to build capital reserves to meet new stringent capital requirements being implemented in the states, she said"

That would imply to me that part of these profits are temporary and related to capital building.
 
2002-12-19 02:32:23 AM
Didn't the article say that much of the cost increases were due to new state mandates concerning minimum funding levels ? I must have missed the part about all the greedy capitalists stuffing money up their asses.
 
2002-12-19 02:33:55 AM
Obviously swifter than me, Swiftheart. ;)
 
2002-12-19 02:37:47 AM
I think I'll move to Canada. They have a better system, they're socialist, and they sell marmite. I've had two jars of marmite seized by US customs. Maybe it's like Xmas puddings, same density as semtex....or maybe that's how they spot semtex, same density as marmite. ah well. I miss the NHS. I live only about an hour from the border too. Anyone know the words to "Oh Canada"? I think if I can escape the canadian government's detection for three years I can get the much-coveted canadian passport as well. better than almost any other passport you could own.
 
2002-12-19 02:40:18 AM
Here in NYC they are mandating that all persons on welfare join an HMO. I receive SSD and am also encouraged to join an HMO. Right now I pay $7 for a doctors visit, $40 for a psychiatrist, an $40/month max for prescriptions. Under an HMO I would receive the same care (up to $2,000 for doctor visits and free medication, up to $4,000; presuming the drugs are on the HMO's approvedc list.) Trust me. I worked for these assholes; and their philosophy is don't pay this claim unless there are mitigating circumstances. You can check the web for horror stories.
 
2002-12-19 02:42:25 AM
Marmite?

Is it made out of these?

 
2002-12-19 02:46:18 AM
Ahem...Marmite

Even if you saw it you wouldn't be able to figure out what it was.

You spread it on bread, but NEVER butter the bread first. You either love it or hate it on first sight. The Aussies have something similar if not identical called Vegimite.

In all fairness, the customs officials stopped one jar because it had broken open and they didn't like the looks/smell of it. Probably thought it had gone bad.
 
2002-12-19 02:46:27 AM
O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.

With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!

From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

It seems that everything's gone wrong

Since Canada came along, Blame Canada, O Canada!

There not even a real country anyway
Blame Canada, O Canada!

With all their hockey hubbabaloo
And that biatch Anne Murray too

Blame Canada Shame on Canada

O Canada!
 
2002-12-19 02:47:28 AM
Sheilanagig
Anyone know the words to "Oh Canada"?

"O Canada,
Our home on native land,
mumble, mumble, mumble,
O Canada, wheeze tendon guard for thee!"
 
2002-12-19 02:47:35 AM
will you sponsor me? Do you live in Manitoba or Saskatchewan? I clean houses really well and I don't eat much.
 
2002-12-19 02:48:37 AM
Seeing that this has turned into the random image thread...

GIS for "some random image"



That'd make a good PS contest.
 
2002-12-19 02:52:29 AM
Sheilaagain

If the Sheila na gig is what I seem to recall it being, you should put a picture in your profile. Of course, you'd have to change your login to Sheilanagig(NSFW).

The Aussies have something similar if not identical called Vegimite.

*gagging noise* That isn't food, it's a controlled substance. Legend says it's made fro asphalt and kangaroo droppings, heavily salted. Other legends say some guy out in the bush tried to make vegetable soup over a fire, using beer instead of water. He tipped in a whole container of salt and a large quantity of yeast. Then he got drunk and passed out. When he woke up, it had boiled down to a thick brown paste. He took a taste and went "Bleeuugh...give us some more of that."

Probably thought it had gone bad.

Vegemite doesn't go bad. The bacteria won't touch it.

Dad was recently Down Under for Grandad's funeral. He said he ate Vegemite on toast for breakfast every morning 'cause they had no peanut butter.
 
2002-12-19 02:54:45 AM
Sheilabruce
will you sponsor me? Do you live in Manitoba or Saskatchewan? I clean houses really well and I don't eat much.

I live in BC, I clean houses poorly, and I don't eat much either. What's in Saskatchewan or Manitoba (besides flat)?

I try not to venture out onto the prairies much. I get agoraphobia. The horizon it's right unless it's looming over you.
 
2002-12-19 03:06:23 AM
That last sentence should make more sense if the first "it's" is read as "isn't". Better yet, read it as "doesn't seem".
 
2002-12-19 03:07:12 AM
There, I've updated the profile. I've not been truthful with the photo, only a little bit. I was tempted to put a sile-na-gig in there.
 
2002-12-19 03:12:04 AM
Sheila
I've not been truthful with the photo,

Alooooooo-ha!

Extra-special bitterness toward everything irish and irish men in particular

Umm...I better not tell you my last name.
 
2002-12-19 03:14:14 AM
Sheilanagig - The trick with Christmas pud. is to make it yourself, just do it well before you want to eat it, and pour brandy on it once in a while. As for the marmite, well, you're on your own there, I believe axle grease and sand makes a good substitute for it.
 
2002-12-19 03:18:57 AM
Bondith

I'd explain the irish thing, but it would take a while. Let's just say it had something to do with flirting with someone online, seeing ireland and then having my first encounter with borderline personality disorder. I lived through being strangled, came home for xmas last year in bits, with a new and special bitterness towards the irish. You're safe unless you were born and raised there.
 
2002-12-19 03:22:29 AM
Sheila
You're safe unless you were born and raised there.

Never been anywhere near the country. My great-great grandfather was my most recent antecedent born there. My Irish blood's also been diluted by a lot of Sassenach swill.

I lived through being strangled,

*growl* People like that should be strung up by the balls. I don't like hearing stories like that, 'cause my knight-in-shining-armour chivalrous side wants to do something about it, but it's already happened.
 
2002-12-19 03:23:45 AM
looks like there's some leftover SA goons in here.
 
2002-12-19 03:26:38 AM
check out borderline personality disorder. He had told me he'd had a nervous breakdown, childhood trauma, etc. I told him there was no shame in it, everyone has problems, etc. I think he had a big elaborate image of who I was, ended up being corrected in some of his assumptions, then got upset that he couldn't be right all the time or have things just the way he wanted them. All in all it was my mistake too.
 
2002-12-19 03:33:47 AM
check out borderline personality disorder.

Hmm, I see.

I have a bad case of heroism. I have a mental image of myself as a paladin on a white horse, rescuing damsels in distress. Given grrl power and my inherent geekiness, they'd probably end up rescuing me.

It doesn't help that my family crest is a knight on horseback and the motto is "Justice and fortitude are invincible."
 
2002-12-19 03:39:33 AM
Hmmm. I'm being tempted to flirt with you. Given that I've just told you what happened last time, this isn't good. I've given my dad permission to arrange my next relationship if I see one more unemployed alcoholic or psychotic. I think he was ready to hire a contract on that guy when I came home with a bruise on my cheek. Where are the nice men? Do they just meet horrible women and marry them on the spot? Aaaaarrgghhh!
 
2002-12-19 03:46:00 AM
I'm being tempted to flirt with you.

I'm flattered.

Given that I've just told you what happened last time, this isn't good.

D'oh.

Where are the nice men?

Right here. I am neither an unemployed alcholic nor psychotic. I think there's something hardwired into women that associates assholism with primal child-providing traits, ie agressiveness = good hunter.

There's also something hardwired into guys that makes us lust for big boobies.

Where was I? Oh yeah. Nice guys. The problem with nice guys is that we're shy, and we allowed ourselves to be overshadowed by the arrogant idiots. What do we do about it? Nothing! We're shy! We just complain that girls don't seem to like us.

Do I seem bitter? High school was kinda lonely. College has been a different story.
 
2002-12-19 03:54:00 AM
Hmmm. I didn't really have the problem of being lonely since I grew a pair of boobies. My standards seem to be too low. I grew bitter that I had a good education, above-average intelligence and still attracted leering psycho predator types. My ex hubby was cool in some ways, we were buddies and played video games and watched movies, but he was an unemployed alcoholic. I lost too much money providing for us. Someone should give assertiveness courses for nice men. I'm off to put my email on the profile. I might check it sometime too.
 
2002-12-19 04:07:15 AM
Email sent. Now I'm off to bed. Everyone else may resume talking about HMOs. My other threadjacking attempt has fizzled, so I may as let this one go as well.

Gawd, this connection's slow tonight. Who else is online at 1:00 in the morning on a weeknight?
 
2002-12-19 04:08:00 AM
Yes, HMOS make massive profits.

Same way other insurance companies do. By extracting dues from you every month without fail, but when you try to collect...

"Oh, we don't cover that..."
"We have a 2 yr waiting period on that."
"Your deductible on that is..."
"We cover 50 percent of that."
--I've gotten injured twice this year. The first time, I got the first song and dance. This time, I've avoided the doctor because I'd get the last, and the pain in my foot was not enough to be more than the pain in the ass!
 
2002-12-19 04:10:55 AM
Ignorant headline alert:

The entire HMO industry across the nation made less than a billion dollars in profit. The WHOLE INDUSTRY! Only two thirds of them made any profit at all. No one who understands anything at all could call this "ridiculous profits". That's less than a tenth of what WalMart makes all on it's own.
 
2002-12-19 04:13:22 AM
Or not sent. Things are all farked up. I'll try again in the morning.

G'night, all you happy people.
 
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