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(Daily Kos)   Lesson 1, Ms. Palin: Do NOT fark with community organizers   (dailykos.com) divider line 567
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2008-09-04 01:01:07 AM
That remark will most definitely come back to bite them in the ass hard. In fact, I'm sure the Obama campaign has their media people working on it as we speak. That was a direct insult to all community organizers, volunteers, or just about anyone else who passes over a high-paying job in an attempt to improve their community and the quality of life of others. A real dick move IMO...
 
2008-09-04 01:07:47 AM
Oh, so I guess my sister doesn't have a real job, in Governor Palin's eyes. The people she works with in her community would disagree.
 
2008-09-04 01:12:55 AM
rynthetyn: Oh, so I guess my sister doesn't have a real job, in Governor Palin's eyes. The people she works with in her community would disagree.

Rudy did the same attack.... it really was an odd angle that doesn't seem like it will work.
 
2008-09-04 01:16:13 AM
Bill Frist: rynthetyn: Oh, so I guess my sister doesn't have a real job, in Governor Palin's eyes. The people she works with in her community would disagree.

Rudy did the same attack.... it really was an odd angle that doesn't seem like it will work.


The really idiotic thing is that the Republicans are always talking about how the private sector should be the ones stepping in to help people in poor communities, and when that happens, they turn around and mock the very same people for not having real jobs.
 
2008-09-04 01:19:09 AM
If the GOP want to talk about small town issues, thats fine. But dont get up and diss the very people who are "in the trenches", actually organizing.

Can someone please inform the writer of TFA that "Community Organizers" don't typically visit the small towns and burgs. They tend to tackle the large cities because the estimated base is much larger and more concentrated.

/Has lived in a small town for quite a few years. Has never seen a community organizer 'bout these parts.
//Much less an Ivy League lawyer one.
 
2008-09-04 01:28:11 AM
Wanebo: If the GOP want to talk about small town issues, thats fine. But dont get up and diss the very people who are "in the trenches", actually organizing.

Can someone please inform the writer of TFA that "Community Organizers" don't typically visit the small towns and burgs. They tend to tackle the large cities because the estimated base is much larger and more concentrated.

/Has lived in a small town for quite a few years. Has never seen a community organizer 'bout these parts.
//Much less an Ivy League lawyer one.


Actually, there are community organizers in many small towns. Sometimes its more of a county wide thing...but size of town does not mean that somebody isn't trying to help the community.
 
2008-09-04 01:30:38 AM
It was, quite simply, a targeted attach on Obama.

Obama as "community organizer" = extortionist.
 
2008-09-04 01:33:39 AM
*attack* ^^^
 
2008-09-04 01:36:52 AM
What a stupid line of attack. Doesn't she realize how good community organizers are at...well, organizing? I mean, wouldn't that be the group of people you'd LEAST want to piss off?
 
2008-09-04 01:39:54 AM
cameroncrazy1984: What a stupid line of attack. Doesn't she realize how good community organizers are at...well, organizing? I mean, wouldn't that be the group of people you'd LEAST want to piss off?

I bet that if you explained to her that the reason that there are no polar bears in the lower 48 is because of the valiant efforts by community organizers to run them out to the frozen north.


/kidding aside I know many community organizers and this is a slap on the face to them regardless of political orientation
 
2008-09-04 01:40:30 AM
I am so glad that this is going to bite them in the ass. To insult the base of their own supporters is possibly the stupidest thing she could do, and I'm glad at least a few of them aren't so blindly loyal as to ignore a direct insult upon them.
 
2008-09-04 01:42:32 AM
cameroncrazy1984: Doesn't she realize how good community organizers are at...well, organizing?

Considering Guliani was slamming it as well, it must be the party's strategy. Not smart, considering they have to convert a LOT of people in the middle and middle-left to have a shot at winning this thing.
 
2008-09-04 01:48:25 AM
Her comment was stupid and insulting. Talk about lowering the bar.

She must have the brain of a pit bull.
 
2008-09-04 01:53:03 AM
The GOP has once again shown they are out of touch. Anyone can just study and become a doctor, become a lawyer, become a teacher, whatever, but it takes real skill and ability to become a community organizer. In fact, we need more community organizers and Obama should make it a priority that community organizers like him get massive amounts of federal funding. It's time that we make sure that every single community has its community organizers, in fact, they should have multiple community organizers, in case one is not competent enough.
 
2008-09-04 01:53:39 AM
JacksBlack: It was, quite simply, a targeted attach on Obama.

Obama as "community organizer" = extortionist.


It was an incredibly stupid tactic and it's going to backfire in their faces when Obama and Biden use it to point out just how out of touch the republican party is with middle America.
 
2008-09-04 01:56:43 AM
Community organizer? Ho ho what do those people only do? I only legislate.
 
2008-09-04 02:07:57 AM
Remove all Republicans: but it takes real skill and ability to become a community organizer

And dedication, and love for your community.

Actually, community organizers are probably the ones who started the recall campaign against her after she became the mayor of that small town in Alaska. Maybe she's out for her revenge.
 
2008-09-04 02:10:28 AM
As said in another thread:

This was a really dumb move. This could very well be the point where Palin stepped knee-deep into the moose chip. Community level organizers are the base of every political movement, Republicans included.

'Course at this point, the Repubs are so unfazed by cognitive dissonance that they'll probably just smile and keep knocking on doors pimping McCain.
 
2008-09-04 02:13:37 AM
Occam's Chainsaw: they'll probably just smile and keep knocking on doors pimping McCain.

that deserved a photoshop contest... i wish i had the skills for that
 
2008-09-04 02:13:54 AM
Come on... it's in code. "Community organizer" really means "ghetto rabblerouser" to these people.

Gosh, dealing with the smelly hoi polloi and their insistence on things like affordable living, transportation, health care, education and vocational opportunities... what's not to mock about that?
 
2008-09-04 02:21:22 AM
Svingen999: Come on... it's in code. "Community organizer" really means "ghetto rabblerouser" to these people.

Gosh, dealing with the smelly hoi polloi and their insistence on things like affordable living, transportation, health care, education and vocational opportunities... what's not to mock about that?


Public transportation shouldn't be mocked. It's how we move the unwashed off our roads and into cattle cars so that they no longer block my commute. Having to sit in the backseat of my Bentley during a traffic jam is so passe'.
 
2008-09-04 02:22:21 AM
Occam's Chainsaw: Svingen999: Come on... it's in code. "Community organizer" really means "ghetto rabblerouser" to these people.

Gosh, dealing with the smelly hoi polloi and their insistence on things like affordable living, transportation, health care, education and vocational opportunities... what's not to mock about that?

Public transportation shouldn't be mocked. It's how we move the unwashed off our roads and into cattle cars so that they no longer block my commute. Having to sit in the backseat of my Bentley during a traffic jam is so passe'.


yes but then you wouldn't be able to pass the grey poupon!
 
2008-09-04 02:23:55 AM
Visualingo: Remove all Republicans: but it takes real skill and ability to become a community organizer

And dedication, and love for your community.


Yeah, but what about those communities where there isn't anyone with the dedication or love? It's high time we have the government fund community organizers. Imagine if we had groups of people who got paid by the government on the basis of how many things they organized. Give people the incentives, and we'll see tons and tons of organizing.
 
2008-09-04 02:33:02 AM
Palin provided a wealth of ad material this week for Obama/Biden before she even took the stage.

Then she proceeds to lie in her acceptance speech about things that will easily be proved not true in the weeks to come?

Hello pit bull with lipstick, you will be debating soon and you will be called on your bullshiat.

It's obvious that Mickeys camp is figuring this out as they go along. They will find that 'organizing' is the key to a campaign and they are doing a very poor job of it.
 
2008-09-04 02:35:10 AM
Obama will probably use his political jijitsu to stick this up Palin's unqualified ass tomorrow. Just that achingly shrill "does everyone have their permission slips?" voice bleating out that public service and helping your community isn't a "REAL job" to the presidential ticket with 10 houses between them should be enough to jam some more "who's the REAL elitist?" material on the airwaves.
 
2008-09-04 02:35:51 AM
Republicans don't care about who they hurt or offend while they're grasping for power. Nothing matters to them except getting the power. What do they do when they've had it? They abuse it.
 
2008-09-04 02:39:15 AM
Darth_Lukecash: Actually, there are community organizers in many small towns. Sometimes its more of a county wide thing...but size of town does not mean that somebody isn't trying to help the community.

Very true. My sister interned with a community development organization in a small town in the rural south. Organizing in small towns has it's own challenges.
 
2008-09-04 02:39:48 AM
Community Organizer : Average Person Trying to Work and Live a Decent Life :: Lobbyist : Person With the Money to Spend on Lobbyists

Differences: Community organizing is usually a low-paid occupation. It typically requires long hours and frequently involves combating institutional distrust and community apathy. It has the almost Herculean charge of generating community interest in the often dull (nevertheless important) civic affairs that impact their lives in ways large and small. The community organizer must create the conditions that encourage a community to give voice to their concerns and take specific action to see that those concerns are addressed. It is often a thankless task, unless the community organizer is exceptionally gifted or has a hot-button issue to rally the community around.

Meanwhile, Sarah the Small-Town Hot Hockey MomTM hired a lobbyist to celebrate a luau in Wasilla....to the point where McNasty himself put Wasilla on his Hall of Pork sh*t-list in 2001.

Harvard Mouthpiece - 1
Lots of Dogs - 0
 
2008-09-04 02:48:44 AM
Svingen999
Gosh, dealing with the smelly hoi polloi and their insistence on things like affordable living, transportation, health care, education and vocational opportunities... what's not to mock about that?


<grammar nazi>
That should be "dealing with smelly hoi polloi" or "dealing with the smelly polloi". Dealing with the smelly hoi polloi doesn't make sense.
</grammar nazi>

/you may now go back to discussing the latest stupid thing the Republicans have done.
 
2008-09-04 03:02:25 AM
Since "hoi" means "the", it might be said that the common usage of the hoi polloi contains a redundancy. However, this latter usage is well-established and it is often the case that phrases borrowed from other languages become treated as single words in English.

/from Wikipedia
 
2008-09-04 03:06:53 AM
Since "hoi" means "the", it might be said that the common usage of the hoi polloi contains a redundancy. However, this latter usage is well-established and it is often the case that phrases borrowed from other languages become treated as single words in English.

ah, my favorite argument: Well, everyone does it this way now, so it doesn't matter if it's actually wrong or not.
See also: nauseous, nucular and axt.
 
2008-09-04 03:09:56 AM
Bill Frist: rynthetyn: Oh, so I guess my sister doesn't have a real job, in Governor Palin's eyes. The people she works with in her community would disagree.

Rudy did the same attack.... it really was an odd angle that doesn't seem like it will work.


It was Rudy specifically in saying it, and then egging the audience to boo it, that pretty much burnt out any good will I had towards him whatsoever.
 
2008-09-04 03:10:56 AM
The other day Rush was talking about how Community organizers = community rabble rousers.

Shoulda seen it coming.
 
2008-09-04 03:13:51 AM
RevMercutio: It was Rudy specifically in saying it, and then egging the audience to boo it, that pretty much burnt out any good will I had towards him whatsoever.

You had good will toward Noun-Verb-9/11? Really? He's a dyed-in-the-wool fascist, and not in the hyperbolic "everyone I hate is a fascist" way. The man would've been a good running mate for Benito Mussolini.
 
2008-09-04 03:14:36 AM
I watched both the Dems and the GOP conventions so far. It is quite telling how viscerally negative and abrasive the GOP speeches are against Obama and the Dems -- on a personal level I might add.

The GOP speeches so far offer far less substantial policy points than the Dems. Maybe that's their strategy: their base is already theirs (rich white older) .. they just need a strong message to sell to the "low-information" demographic.
 
2008-09-04 03:15:52 AM
entertainmentweakly.com
 
2008-09-04 03:16:09 AM
Obama's already on it. Front page on his site:

Dear Friend --

I wasn't planning on sending you something tonight. But if you saw what I saw from the Republican convention, you know that it demands a response.

I saw John McCain's attack squad of negative, cynical politicians. They lied about Barack Obama and Joe Biden, and they attacked you for being a part of this campaign.

But worst of all -- and this deserves to be noted -- they insulted the very idea that ordinary people have a role to play in our political process.

You know that despite what John McCain and his attack squad say, everyday people have the power to build something extraordinary when we come together. Will you make a donation right now to remind them?

Both Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin specifically mocked Barack's experience as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago more than two decades ago, where he worked with people who had lost jobs and been left behind when the local steel plants closed.

Let's clarify something for them right now.

Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies.

And it's no surprise that, after eight years of George Bush, millions of people have found that by coming together in their local communities they can change the course of history. That promise is what our campaign has been about from the beginning.

Throughout our history, ordinary people have made good on America's promise by organizing for change from the bottom up. Community organizing is the foundation of the civil rights movement, the women's suffrage movement, labor rights, and the 40-hour workweek. And it's happening today in church basements and community centers and living rooms across America.

Meanwhile, we still haven't gotten a single idea during the entire Republican convention about the economy and how to lift a middle class so harmed by the Bush-McCain policies.

It's now clear that John McCain's campaign has decided that desperate lies and personal attacks -- on Barack Obama and on you -- are the only way they can earn a third term for the Bush policies that McCain has supported more than 90 percent of the time.

But you can send a crystal clear message.
 
2008-09-04 03:17:14 AM
The man would've been a good running mate for Benito Mussolini.

That's offensive. Mussolini never attacked community organizers as far as you know.
 
2008-09-04 03:17:19 AM
Does anyone have a link to a decent summation of tonight's speeches? I was working and missed them. So far I've got: Made up a bunch of crap, can't pronounce "nuclear" without having it spelled phonetically and pissed off community organizers (people who help put voters in the booth come election day.)
 
2008-09-04 03:17:19 AM
entertainmentweakly.com
 
2008-09-04 03:18:08 AM
"I have spoken of a thousand points of light, of all the community organizations that are spread like stars throughout the Nation, doing good."

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I guess Palin thought she was supposed to distance the ticket from the wrong Bush.
 
2008-09-04 03:18:09 AM
What the Republicans really screwed up on is that every Church group in the country raising money for various projects (the poor, the homeless) qualifies as community organizers. At my old job, all the Christians worked selflessly for various community improvement projects, especially the young people.

The Obama campaign should send workers to every one of these churches and say "These people think what you do is worthless. Not only that, they openly mocked you on the national stage."
 
2008-09-04 03:20:17 AM
She's like every Human Resorces chick I've ever had to deal with.

I work for myself now, and I thought I was safe. But I'll be damned if maybe now every one of those biatches is gonna now form a damn form-packets deadline-hocking Voltron and be goddam president when some crazy ass shiat goes down.

Shiat.
 
2008-09-04 03:20:56 AM
Between Rudy and Caribou Barbie, I don't think any Independents got turned on by those speeches, aside from people who were voting for McCain anyway and wanted some excuse to just publicly say so.
 
2008-09-04 03:20:58 AM
timujin: Does anyone have a link to a decent summation of tonight's speeches? I was working and missed them. So far I've got: Made up a bunch of crap, can't pronounce "nuclear" without having it spelled phonetically and pissed off community organizers (people who help put voters in the booth come election day.)

From an Alaskan. (new window)
 
2008-09-04 03:21:32 AM
entertainmentweakly.com
 
2008-09-04 03:21:34 AM
I'm glad to see the Fark stress the importance of community organizer. Maybe they will even support the PTA next.
 
2008-09-04 03:22:10 AM
Coco LaFemme: Between Rudy and Caribou Barbie, I don't think any Independents got turned on by those speeches, aside from people who were voting for McCain anyway and wanted some excuse to just publicly say so.

See also: CanisNoir.
 
2008-09-04 03:22:59 AM
timujin: Does anyone have a link to a decent summation of tonight's speeches? I was working and missed them. So far I've got: Made up a bunch of crap, can't pronounce "nuclear" without having it spelled phonetically and pissed off community organizers (people who help put voters in the booth come election day.)

Basically imagine the most vile, venom spitting, lying speeches you can imagine for 2 hours and you'll have a rough idea.

Obamas message:There are no red states or blues states, just the united states!
Republican message: The libs are the cause of all your problems, even though we are the ones that have been in power.
 
2008-09-04 03:23:28 AM
OK maybe their trying to....

Well, at least she's....


Well, fark it...

We got this one in the bag
 
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