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(Yahoo)   Those 'historians' questioning Palin's credentials? Two maxed-out Obama donors, one exclusive Democrat donor, and one former Gephardt speech writer. I think they just may have had an agenda   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 336
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2008-08-31 11:52:44 AM  
Right, because people questioning if the mayor of Wassila and the governor of Alaska for two years has presidential experience is a complete invention of the media.

Oh, and don't forget, Palin and Obama are completely equal when it comes to experience. Like when Obama was working in the toughest city neighborhoods in Chicago, Palin was running away to Alaska. And while Obama was getting his credentials in constitutional law, Palin was winning Miss Congeniality.

So, they're basically clones.
 
2008-08-31 12:07:11 PM  
Because anyone who has the common sense to oppose McCain and support Obama in any way must be so blinded by partisan rage that they can't objectively say that a former small-town (8500 people) mayor with 20 months experience as a governor of Alaska, with no expereince or stance on national or international issues, is not ready to be president of the USA. Yeah, partisan hacks...all of them....
 
2008-08-31 12:07:44 PM  
Damn, without their analysis, I couldn't possibly come to the conclusion that she's dangerously unqualified for her position.
 
2008-08-31 12:09:23 PM  
Biased or not, they're still right.
 
2008-08-31 12:14:48 PM  
I could've sworn I had seen something where former McCain donors made some dumbass ads or some such about Obama...but that didn't matter because they weren't associated with the campaign anymore and they were speaking of their own free will.

I mean, I could be imagining things.
 
2008-08-31 12:15:07 PM  
Since when did most of America become historians?
 
2008-08-31 12:15:42 PM  
That is a really weak response from McCain's campaign. "B-b-but they gave the other guy money!" So? It doesn't change the facts.

McCain attempted to counter Obama with an equivalent. Unfortunately, he chose poorly. Palin is not a civil rights attorney; she has not worked at the national level nor has she ever dealt firsthand with inner-city America. She is attractive but not charismatic. Her administration is already haunting her. McCain failed to look at this critically and it is quickly becoming evident and how unsuited she is for the position.

The issue is not just experience- it is about overall qualification. She is unqualified.

then again, I support Obama, so obviously that invalidates any criticism of the opponents)
 
2008-08-31 12:25:44 PM  
The woman holds a Bachelor's degree in journalism. Journalism majors are the girls who can't suck cock as well as Communication majors.

And don't tell me about Dubya's bullshiat daddy-influenced education.

Education is a lot more important than how many years you were taking bribes as senator.
 
2008-08-31 12:28:50 PM  
if mccain drops dead in february, this lady is supposed to be ready to instantly be the President of the United States. And not just that, she is supposed to be ready to be President at a moments notice AND in that moment handle one of the biggest crises this country can face: the president just died. i almost find it insulting that he would do this.
 
2008-08-31 12:35:21 PM  
Oh c'mon a degree in journalism from Podunk U. and a life's wish to be on ESPN is equal to being president of Harvard law review.

Being the mayor of Cicely is the same as state senator of Illinois.

Being the governor of San Bernadino for a little over a year is equal to 4 yrs as a US senator.

but it's not about experience as much as it is about judgment.
and she has shown that she has exercised poor judgment all along her short career. She just happened to be pretty and lucky.
and that's not sexist it's the truth. you not so pretty girls know I'm telling the truth. they have an instant advantage.
 
2008-08-31 12:40:59 PM  
 
2008-08-31 12:41:05 PM  
Now, now, Sen. McCain has known Palin and followed her career for seven whole months (^)...

Whatever her credentials, attention has to be placed on the process and reasons that resulted in this choice. Sen. McCain and his handlers found her to be the best all-around candidate for VP in their party?
Really!?
 
2008-08-31 12:43:07 PM  
Little tip- Its not just those "historians" questioning her credentials.
 
2008-08-31 12:45:41 PM  
flavor of the month: if mccain drops dead in february, this lady is supposed to be ready to instantly be the President of the United States. And not just that, she is supposed to be ready to be President at a moments notice AND in that moment handle one of the biggest crises this country can face: the president just died. i almost find it insulting that he would do this.

But she isn't a democrat, so everything will magically all work out for the better.
 
2008-08-31 12:47:21 PM  
I've been trying to stay out of this, but for Pete's sake... she's a bible-thumpin' soccer mom. She is Katherine Harris without the back story of gaffes (mostly because the media attention that Alaska gets as of late has been focused on Ted Stevens... if at all.) If there were a camera shoved in her face for the past 8 years, this wouldn't be an issue, and McCain would've picked Romney or Pawlenty and there would have been a sustainable ticket. As it is, I think that any media outlet that actually wants to find answers can ask her any number of questions that will have her fumbling or proudly decrying the secular laws that have served this country for centuries.

I was impressed with her when she came on the scene last year, bucking Stevens' policies and standing up for her state. But she is a light-weight... and an obvious attempt at a McCain end-run on an election he has little chance of winning. I'm OK with Mrs. Palin in the Alaskan governor's mansion... I'm OK with her in Washington, getting some national experience. I am not OK with her in the White House. She is totally out of her depth, and the fact that she didn't refuse the selection outright means she is even dumber than I thought.
 
2008-08-31 12:47:56 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

"She's just as qualified as I was. She'll be GREAT!"
 
2008-08-31 12:50:53 PM  
Grrr: Now, now, Sen. McCain has known Palin and followed her career for seven whole months (^)...

Whatever her credentials, attention has to be placed on the process and reasons that resulted in this choice. Sen. McCain and his handlers found her to be the best all-around candidate for VP in their party?
Really!?


I keep thinking back to this quote from George W. Bush, on Vladimir Putin:

"I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy and we had a very good dialogue.

"I was able to get a sense of his soul.

"He's a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country and I appreciate very much the frank dialogue and that's the beginning of a very constructive relationship."


It strikes me as the same sort of "fark facts, let's go with my gut" decision making that has plagued the Bush Administration, and that we cannot afford for another 4 to 8 years.

It speaks of larger problems with McCain's governing style than just the fact he picked an incredibly shiatty running mate.
 
2008-08-31 01:00:35 PM  
flavor of the month: if mccain drops dead in february, this lady is supposed to be ready to instantly be the President of the United States. And not just that, she is supposed to be ready to be President at a moments notice AND in that moment handle one of the biggest crises this country can face: the president just died. i almost find it insulting that he would do this.

He did it because he knows she has capable puppetmasters.
 
2008-08-31 01:05:39 PM  
valloned: with 20 months experience as a governor of Alaska, with no expereince or stance on national or international issues, is not ready to be president of the USA. Yeah, partisan hacks...all of them....


But, you're missing the single most valuable characteristic. She is a party loyalist, who does what she's told. This is more valuable to the party than any other characteristic. This is why where are so many dirty people in these political parties. Their past history isn't nearly as important as their current loyalty.
 
2008-08-31 01:07:20 PM  
I am completely flabbergasted that the GOP has the unmitigated gall to present this person as a candidate for the second-highest office in the nation.

It's like they are mocking the American people, beleiving that they are so shallow as to vote because a pretty face appears on the TV screen.

Window dressing. That's all she is.

And if you are still spouting talking points about how she has more qualifications than Obama, then you are just showing your ignorance and total lack of understanding about how vitally important the job is, or can become.
 
2008-08-31 01:09:05 PM  
Con_Authority:
But, you're missing the single most valuable characteristic. She is a party loyalist, who does what she's told. This is more valuable to the party than any other characteristic. This is why where are so many dirty people in these political parties. Their past history isn't nearly as important as their current loyalty.


Unfortunately, that is true. They just need a body to get votes for the machine. However, Palin is only slightly more qualified than the GOP's number 2 choice:

www.stonescryout.org
 
2008-08-31 01:10:36 PM  
Has anyone else noticed that she is the governor of a state with fewer people in it than the Twin Cities, even without the RNC crowd here? Just curious.
 
2008-08-31 01:11:44 PM  
TheCharmerUnderMe: I am completely flabbergasted that the GOP has the unmitigated gall to present this person as a candidate for the second-highest office in the nation.

It's like they are mocking the American people, beleiving that they are so shallow as to vote because a pretty face appears on the TV screen.

Window dressing. That's all she is.

And if you are still spouting talking points about how she has more qualifications than Obama, then you are just showing your ignorance and total lack of understanding about how vitally important the job is, or can become.


And the GOP's counter to this?

'You liberals are doing the same thing with Obama, but somehow he would be a bajillion times worse than her, so NYAH!'
 
2008-08-31 01:19:14 PM  
TheCharmerUnderMe: Window dressing. That's all she is.

Lipstick on the pig.
 
2008-08-31 01:19:38 PM  
NeverDrunk23: 'You liberals are doing the same thing with Obama, but somehow he would be a bajillion times worse than her, so NYAH!'

And those people are too stupid to see the difference between a Harvard Law Degree and a BA in communications from Idaho.
 
2008-08-31 01:20:41 PM  
mcwebe0: Has anyone else noticed that she is the governor of a state with fewer people in it than the Twin Cities, even without the RNC crowd here? Just curious.

But the state is close to Russia, so that gives her experience in international relations. I heard that on Fox.
 
2008-08-31 01:25:11 PM  
TheCharmerUnderMe: NeverDrunk23: 'You liberals are doing the same thing with Obama, but somehow he would be a bajillion times worse than her, so NYAH!'

And those people are too stupid to see the difference between a Harvard Law Degree and a BA in communications from Idaho.


Oh, they know the difference. The difference is that a Harvard Law Degree makes him elitist, unable to connect with Joe EveryVoter and therefore unfit and unqualified to act as president.
 
2008-08-31 01:44:51 PM  
Isn't the whole point that the McCain campaign has made a big deal about Obama's inexperience and then picked someone with even less experience?
 
2008-08-31 01:46:38 PM  
TheCharmerUnderMe: I am completely flabbergasted that the GOP Democratic Party has the unmitigated gall to present this person as a candidate for the second-highest office in the nation.

It's like they are mocking the American people, beleiving that they are so shallow as to vote because a pretty face appears on the TV screen.

Window dressing. That's all she is.

And if you are still spouting talking points about how she has more qualifications than ObamaPalin, then you are just showing your ignorance and total lack of understanding about how vitally important the job is, or can become.


FTFY
 
2008-08-31 01:46:42 PM  
i154.photobucket.com
 
2008-08-31 01:56:59 PM  
BravadoGT: FTFY

I know you are but what am I?
 
2008-08-31 02:03:53 PM  
BravadoGT: TheCharmerUnderMe: I am completely flabbergasted that the GOP Democratic Party has the unmitigated gall to present this person as a candidate for the second-highest office in the nation.

It's like they are mocking the American people, beleiving that they are so shallow as to vote because a pretty face appears on the TV screen.

Window dressing. That's all she is.

And if you are still spouting talking points about how she has more qualifications than ObamaPalin, then you are just showing your ignorance and total lack of understanding about how vitally important the job is, or can become.

FTFY



SMACK


Snap out of it, you dumb fark, all of you. No one involved has the experience to lead the free world. Obama's not qualified, Hilary's not qualified, McCain's a senile psychopath and his running mate chick isn't qualified to run a PTA meeting.

We're farked. No one with any sense wants to inherit the presidency of this country given the shiat Bush put us in and we're left with this collection of assholes and fark ups. You all know it so stop pretending otherwise.
 
2008-08-31 02:05:09 PM  
Donations or not, they're right. And you don't have to be an Obama voter to say, "Geez, 18 months as governor and 6 years as mayor of Podunk, Alaska is not enough." Not at all.
 
2008-08-31 02:17:21 PM  
Mugato: Obama's not qualified

How is Obama not qualified?
 
2008-08-31 02:18:13 PM  
"Geez 18 months as Senator and six years 'organizing the community' is not enough." Not at all.
 
2008-08-31 02:30:28 PM  
Il Douchey: "Geez 18 months as Senator and six years 'organizing the community' is not enough." Not at all.

it was enough for abraham lincoln.
 
2008-08-31 02:37:32 PM  
TheCharmerUnderMe: It's like they are mocking the American people, beleiving that they are so shallow as to vote because a pretty face appears on the TV screen.

Unfortunately they're probably right. McCain knows that all he has to do is win over the people that elected George W. Bush to a second term. Those people don't look too deeply at their candidates.
 
2008-08-31 02:46:11 PM  
Your ticket has one candidate who is too green and untested to be president and one who is too old and inside the system -they suck!

/Yes, I'm talking to you
//No, I don't care which party you favor
 
2008-08-31 03:00:46 PM  
Historians (good ones which I can assume these people are) are very good at understanding the bias. Just because they give to one party does not mean they cannot provide an expert opinion on a subject.
I believe there is a fallacy that is named after that but I can't remember what it is.
 
2008-08-31 03:01:35 PM  
Sen. McCain, of all the candidates you considered, what drew you to her?

JOHN: Obviously, I found her to be very intelligent and very well-versed on the issues. But I think the important thing was that she's a reformer. She's taken on special interests since she ran for the PTA and the city council and mayor. The courage, I guess, is what most impressed me.


Yes, McCain is citing her work on the PTA (p)to tout her experience. Great jaerb dere, John.
 
2008-08-31 03:02:55 PM  
Il Douchey: "Geez 18 months as Senator and six years 'organizing the community' is not enough." Not at all.

First off, Obama hasn't been a U.S. Senator only 18 months. Secondly, you're skipping over his state senate experience. Thirdly, using "I know you are but what am I?" only shows that you have a small penis. Fourth, you have a small penis.
 
2008-08-31 03:04:24 PM  
FlashHarry: it was enough for abraham lincoln.

I knew Abraham Lincoln, he was a friend of mine. And you, governor Palin, are no Abraham Lincoln.
 
2008-08-31 03:06:44 PM  
Lionel Mandrake: Sen. McCain, of all the candidates you considered, what drew you to her?

JOHN: Obviously, I found her to be very intelligent and very well-versed on the issues. But I think the important thing was that she's a reformer. She's taken on special interests since she ran for the PTA and the city council and mayor. The courage, I guess, is what most impressed me.

Yes, McCain is citing her work on the PTA (p)to tout her experience. Great jaerb dere, John.


As you grow older and gain experience you start to drop some of the less-than-impressive things off your resume. That she even mentioned the PTA in her speech seemed like resume padding to me.

And really, what the fark was up with the pony tail? I know they're going with the down-to-earth mom type image, but gussy yourself up a bit.
 
2008-08-31 03:09:41 PM  
You know how I know she's not qualified? SHE'S A WOMAN!

At least that's the vibe I'm getting from her critics.

She's not as qualified as Obama, Obama isn't as qualified as McCain, and McCain isn't as qualified as Biden. Two of those people are running for President, and two are running for Vice-President.

If you are going to make comparisons, stick with the office that each person is running for. Here's how it works:

Obama compares to McCain
Biden compares to Palin

So, assuming there's a 100% chance that the next President will die while in office (a ridiculous assertion) we either start with someone who is a little light on qualifications or we end with someone who is a little light on qualifications.

All of that is predicated on the assumption that we will lose our next president, a highly unlikely event in and of itself.

In short, you're all farking retarded. The only "qualified" ticket would be some combination of McCain and Biden. The rest of you can continue to keep making excuses for your candidate of choice, it doesn't change their experience level.
 
2008-08-31 03:10:45 PM  
Il Douchey: Your ticket has one candidate who is too green and untested to be president...

Tested? Bush's biggest test prior to the presidency was deciding which business to run into the ground next.

/s'okay though, daddy bailed him out
 
2008-08-31 03:12:23 PM  
PoopStain: Pascal just called. He's got a wager for you ;-)
 
2008-08-31 03:13:27 PM  
img142.imageshack.us
 
2008-08-31 03:14:14 PM  
McCain mentioned her PTA experience? On national TV? Really? I saw a few PTA references in earlier threads but I thought it was a joke.

Was she a girl scout leader? That would put her WAAAAAYYYY beyond Obama, right?
 
2008-08-31 03:16:27 PM  
ExJerseyGirl: McCain mentioned her PTA experience? On national TV? Really? I saw a few PTA references in earlier threads but I thought it was a joke.

Was she a girl scout leader? That would put her WAAAAAYYYY beyond Obama, right?


SHE mentioned it, describing the path she took to the Governorship. I don't recall if McCain did too or not.
 
2008-08-31 03:18:18 PM  
robsul82: First off, Obama hasn't been a U.S. Senator only 18 months. Secondly, you're skipping over his state senate experience. Thirdly, using "I know you are but what am I?" only shows that you have a small penis. Fourth, you have a small penis.

You're splitting hairs; less than half of one term served, more than half of that time spent running for prez...the guy is green any way you slice it -just like Palin.

More importantly, you leave my modestly sized member out of this!
 
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