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(Christian Science Monitor)   The DNC protest zones in Denver draw exactly the same number of protesters as the ones the Chinese set up for the Olympics, showing how awesome free speech really is   (features.csmonitor.com) divider line 90
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2008-08-27 04:47:06 PM
They're called "Free Speech Zones." Jeez!
 
2008-08-27 04:53:45 PM
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Welcome to the Freedom Cage.

Sure, you are in sight of the Pepsi Center:
farm4.static.flickr.com

Oh and don't mind the cop with a video camera:
farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2008-08-27 05:26:06 PM
i208.photobucket.com
 
2008-08-27 05:31:40 PM
言论自由为了赢!
 
2008-08-27 05:34:53 PM
They want to get them all in the same place so they can lock the gates and send A-10s on strafing runs. Thankfully they didn't take the bait.
 
2008-08-27 05:40:16 PM
So they didn't use the area that was set aside for protesting & declared legal by the courts, started causing a ruckus in areas where their demonstrations were causing problems & they wonder why they're getting whopped upside the head with night sticks. Huh.
 
2008-08-27 06:10:21 PM
Who needs to protest IRL when we have blogs!
 
2008-08-27 06:10:26 PM
Anyone notice the second picture with the sign up sheet? That was funny-ish.
 
2008-08-27 06:10:33 PM
St.Paul police spent over $1 million on pepper spray
 
2008-08-27 06:11:27 PM
Wow, they are so brave for protesting in the U.S.!

/Fark you hippies
 
2008-08-27 06:11:36 PM
Once I was going to drop out of college to be a hippie. Then I sobered up one day and realized I wasn't in liberal arts and thus have a future in my field.
 
2008-08-27 06:12:04 PM
I remember when the entire couontry was a free speech zone.
They'd still probably beat up Dan Rather.
/my lawn, off, now!
 
2008-08-27 06:12:35 PM
We're not gonna protest! We're not gonna protest!


Nope, I got nothing.
 
2008-08-27 06:13:10 PM
$2 mil on stun guns
 
2008-08-27 06:13:42 PM
I want to bring my own chain link fence and create a smaller perimeter within the Protest Zone, in direct protest of the Protest Zone.
 
2008-08-27 06:14:09 PM
Maybe if people could actually protest PEACEFULLY these types of things wouldn't be considered necessary.

Naaaah.. its the evil governments fault. Those fascists are always against riots and property destruction... err I mean people trying to get their message across.
 
2008-08-27 06:14:19 PM

FTA:
But rallies and parades have also being staged by groups pitching everything from immigrant rights, women's equality, and Ralph Nader to lower fuel costs, legal marijuana, and a united Jerusalem.


Er, what? Ralph Nader isn't that influential...

 
2008-08-27 06:14:20 PM
Freedom isn't free. img1.fark.net

/It's in a cage
 
2008-08-27 06:14:38 PM
Who's demonstrating against the democrats? All I can picture is some lonely republican holding a sign in a parking lot that reads: "Hey, you know how that last president who was a democrat got a BJ from that fat chick? I am against that."
 
2008-08-27 06:15:21 PM
Heamer: I want to bring my own chain link fence and create a smaller perimeter within the Protest Zone, in direct protest of the Protest Zone.

I see you5r inner perimiter, enter it and raise you a suit made of an oil drum to proteest Oil tax incentives, profits, and commandeering our country.
 
2008-08-27 06:15:31 PM
uniformed Secret Service agents

They have uniforms? I thought it was just manditory nondiscript black suit.
 
2008-08-27 06:15:34 PM
Nothing to go all Ayersian about.
 
2008-08-27 06:16:56 PM
Heamer: I want to bring my own chain link fence and create a smaller perimeter within the Protest Zone, in direct protest of the Protest Zone.

I loled.
 
2008-08-27 06:17:02 PM
corsec67: Oh and don't mind the cop with a video camera:

It's not like they'd ever take stills from that and keep them in your FBI freedom file.
 
2008-08-27 06:17:16 PM
Most of the "protesters" are there to show off how cool they are rebelling against people telling them what to do. So of course they won't want to do it someplace that they're ALLOWED to! Getting arrested is the goal for these dipshiats, not something to be avoided.
 
2008-08-27 06:18:00 PM
I'm ok with these "Free Speech Zones."

As long as they put the jock-sniffers and sports nuts in "celebration zones" after the [LOCAL SPORTS TEAM], wins or loses.


Farking sports nuts create more damage than political nuts.
 
2008-08-27 06:18:05 PM
Karma Curmudgeon: corsec67: Oh and don't mind the cop with a video camera:

It's not like they'd ever take stills from that and keep them in your FBI freedom file.


Yeah, that would never happen.
 
2008-08-27 06:18:44 PM
vudukungfu: I remember when the entire couontry was a free speech zone.

Seems to me that the entire City of Denver still is, with the exception of the little bit of land immediately around the building that the police have cordoned off for security reasons. The article leads with a mention that protestors are "outside city offices, in parks, on the capitol steps and near the US Mint." And there have been other articles pointing out that protestors have been hanging around official delegate hotels. So how exactly are their Free Speech rights being impaired?
 
2008-08-27 06:19:06 PM
Heamer: I want to bring my own chain link fence and create a smaller perimeter within the Protest Zone, in direct protest of the Protest Zone.

Brilliant. Have a bunch of people bring their own section, and create smaller and smaller concentric cages within the cage. The inner most being labeled with a sign that says "Free-est of the Free".
 
2008-08-27 06:20:21 PM
corsec67: Karma Curmudgeon: corsec67: Oh and don't mind the cop with a video camera:

It's not like they'd ever take stills from that and keep them in your FBI freedom file.

Yeah, that would never happen.


Hell I send them a yearly 8 x 10 glossy head shot in a file labled BOOM so as to keep my files updated.
 
2008-08-27 06:21:41 PM
texastag: Wow, they are so brave for protesting in the U.S.!

/Fark you hippies


At least they're protesting on American soil and not going overseas to say how much they hate America.

For once.
 
2008-08-27 06:23:50 PM
BobtheFascist: So they didn't use the area that was set aside for protesting & declared legal by the courts, started causing a ruckus in areas where their demonstrations were causing problems & they wonder why they're getting whopped upside the head with night sticks. Huh.

According to the Constitution, there is no right or wrong place for the freedom of assembly and the freedom of speech.
 
2008-08-27 06:24:20 PM
Uzzah:

So how exactly are their Free Speech rights being impaired?


I'm sure it isn't. They just haven't heard of the internet and this newfangled Blogging thingamajiggy that is all the rage now.
They are inept at how to speak. If they wanted to really get known, they would organise correctly and use the media available to collectively create a read-worthy item. Or they could create watchable Yuoutube shorts.
However, if I'm standing somewhere and a cop asks me for ID because he's clearing a zone of right thinking people, then my rights have been violated before I speak.
Even if I'm wearing a flag laple pin.
 
2008-08-27 06:25:00 PM
We should be PROUD of our "Freedom Cages!" There are people all over the world who only have "Freedom Boxes" at best.

If you ask m ---WBRFGL
 
2008-08-27 06:25:31 PM
I should also point out that some of our founding fathers felt that elected officials should be afraid of the citizenry and that such an arrangement was a good thing.
 
2008-08-27 06:25:35 PM
The DNC protest zones in Denver draw exactly the same number of protesters as the ones the Chinese set up for the Olympics, showing how awesome free speech really is

Of course, in Bejing there were NO PROTESTERS. In Denver the protesters simply moved where they wanted to.

Other than that tiny distinction - yeah same thing

/dolt
 
2008-08-27 06:26:30 PM
iaazathot:

According to the Constitution, there is no right or wrong place for the freedom of assembly and the freedom of speech.


until the constitution was invalidated, and rolled up and smoked by "W" then flung like monkey poo at anyone who swore to defend it.
 
2008-08-27 06:27:41 PM
gyronic: I'm ok with these "Free Speech Zones."

As long as they put the jock-sniffers and sports nuts in "celebration zones" after the [LOCAL SPORTS TEAM], wins or loses.


Farking sports nuts create more damage than political nuts.


Absolutely, and I bet you can even prove it with the numbers, but such facts have no place on Fark.
 
2008-08-27 06:29:32 PM
I'm sure it will still be smaller than the "Ted Kennedy Get Well Kegger and naked woman romp."

/last one was the size of VT
 
2008-08-27 06:29:45 PM
texastag
Wow, they are so brave for protesting in the U.S.!

/Fark you hippies


No, fark you for not understanding the role of protest in society. Women, blacks and gays have suffered brutality while protesting for their basic human rights in the good ol' USA. Their bravery actually did have a role in bringing about some changes.

Nowadays, the government's methods of repression have remained nearly as brutal, and meanwhile become more technologically advanced. When citizens see protestors on TV being beaten with sticks, hit with water cannons, etc., they'll see it as pointless and dangerous to protest for their own rights, even as those rights are being taken away.
 
2008-08-27 06:29:53 PM
20 or 30 years from now not only will real protests have become but a memory I wouldn't be suprised if the government makes an effort to destroy any and all footage of the 1968 Chicago protests and any signifigant protests that've come after.

Wouldn't want the sheeple to remember what freedom was and get any ideas.

www.libertyfilmfestival.com

More necessary than ever.
 
2008-08-27 06:30:20 PM
Why do the Republicans need a special place to protest the next American President(and Canada as well) anyways?
 
2008-08-27 06:32:15 PM
iaazathot:
According to the Constitution, there is no right or wrong place for the freedom of assembly and the freedom of speech.


Your right to Free Speech ends at the point where it's infringing on someone ELSE'S right to Free Speech. Believe it or not, the Dems have just as much right to peaceable assembly as anyone else. You can protest all you want, but what you don't get to do is interfere with a lawful assembly.
 
2008-08-27 06:32:41 PM
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


KEYWORD: PEACEABLY

If, in the past, a group has shown they cannot assemble peaceably, then maybe they should be put in a spot away from the people they are protesting against for their safety.
 
2008-08-27 06:34:01 PM
tinyarena --
There were a few who were rapidly escorted from public view, if memory serves. I doubt NBC covered them much, because when you pay approximately $894 million dollars for broadcast rights, you don't want to take the shine off by reminding the audience of what can happen to protesters over there.
 
2008-08-27 06:35:08 PM
And they laughed when I bought Patriotic Freedom and Liberty Cage Company of America shares at 32 cents a piece.
 
2008-08-27 06:35:49 PM
Heamer
I want to bring my own chain link fence and create a smaller perimeter within the Protest Zone, in direct protest of the Protest Zone.

I like the general idea.
Though why not add some barbed wire, get a bunch of orange jumpsuits and cable binders and other little stuff and recreate the true gitmosphere of another beacon of freedom.

img209.imageshack.us
 
2008-08-27 06:36:18 PM
Saiga410: uniformed Secret Service agents

They have uniforms? I thought it was just manditory nondiscript black suit.


"The difference is, I make this shiat look good."
 
2008-08-27 06:36:37 PM
ubermensch:
If, in the past, a group has shown they cannot assemble peaceably, then maybe they should be put in a spot away from the people they are protesting against for their safety.


Like Pilly did for blacks i nthe 60s?
mah, you're fapping to the fluffers, here.
let them get out of hand, then arrest them.
Jeeperscreeprs, holy zippers and fries.
Once they break the law, you may arrest them, but don't bend the laws of the land so pre-emp actions.
baggy pants don't make a criminal.
Placards don't create mahem and frays.
A crime is a violation of a known law, such as the ability to peaceable assemble and stnd on a soap box and have one's voice heard.
 
2008-08-27 06:36:40 PM
Protest ZONE = defeats the purpose
 
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