FTA: The second incident reported was another party held and again Sheriff Kelly and deputies arrived and ordered the crowd to disperse; at which time coolers and lawn chairs were thrown into the bonfire by Sheriff Kelly.

Destroying private property. That's some fine police work there, Sheriff.

Damn, just damn.

If only there was a tag that could be used to identify the location in which stupid incidents take place.

Goddamn Sheriff Cornhole killed that innocent beer.

When did they reinstate prohibition?

That's a really nice way to say "We shot those kids' beer just to be dicks"

Good job, Barney Fife.

Where else but .

What is this world coming to?

//Bows head in moment of silence

This Sheriff needs to go.

You don't do that to perfectly good beer.

I see this more as "Florida" than "Sad," but only by a slim margin.

Farking pigs

Unfreakable: OMG they're shooting the beer! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Damn you beat me to that. God I hate most cops, there are alot that do good work but the asshats like these ruin everyones reputation.

It's not as bad as you guys think. It was a keg of The Beast.

They were just putting it out of its misery.

if that keg was filled with marijuana it would still be usable no matter how many times you shot it, although the mechanics of pouring a plant might make the keg prohibitively expensive...

"At first, they came for the Budweiser..."

Nick Nostril: When did they reinstate prohibition?

it sounded like a party involving minors...

am i the only one who find the incredibly funny???

Relax. You can always get another keg.

PIG

He hates these kegs! Stay away from the kegs!!

tweek46420

it sounded like a party involving minors...

am i the only one who find the incredibly funny???

Nope.

I'm also pretty impressed. The Mondex is the hardest place on the keg to shoot, and sounds like they got it on the first try.

He hates these cans. Stay away from the cans.

/linked

Get a rope.

tboucher

lesse, shooting a metal container with contents under high pressure.

regardless of it's an underage drinking even, that was the dumbest and most unsafe farking thing that dude coulda done.



Nope, throwing the keg on the bonfire would have been 100 time worse. People have been killed doing that.

Hey all you anarchic farkers, he exercised his EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE. I mean if that does not give you a license to destroy private property with a handgun, what does? Am I right?

Not dah Booze!

If a man can get in trouble for shooting his own lawnmower, surely someone should get in trouble for this.

/stop calling me Shirley

tweek46420: Nick Nostril: When did they reinstate prohibition?

it sounded like a party involving minors...

am i the only one who find the finds this incredibly funny???

FIFM

Gonz: You don't do that to perfectly good beer.

Hmmm... underage... out in the boonies... middle of the night...

I'm thinking it was no-so-good beer and maybe it needed killin'

/Florida

Somebody sounds like they have a problem with power. Oh wait, sheriff/cop in America today. Comes with the job.

wingnut396: Hey all you anarchic farkers, he exercised his EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE. I mean if that does not give you a license to destroy private property with a handgun, what does? Am I right Amirite?

FTFY

We need to have a moment of silence for the fallen beer.

They shot the keg in the Mondex?

That's gotta hurt.

Dr. Frisbee: It's not as bad as you guys think. It was a keg of The Beast.

Ah. No harm done then.

A moment of silence please.
While we play taps...

Well, I've had Bloody Mary's with a beer shooter before, but this is silly.

EngineerBob: A moment of silence please.
While we play taps...

/applause

Dr. Frisbee: It's not as bad as you guys think. It was a keg of The Beast.

They were just putting it out of its misery.

Underage Party = Crappy beer.
/However, best beer ever: free

Slogan on local (Yeah..Florida!) Sheriff campaign sign..

Serve And Protect, Not Harass and Collect.

/Has my vote just for that slogan!

Hmmmm, underage drinkers -- would it not have been better to seize the keg and allow whomever rented to pay for the replacement. And then inquire with local distributors about anyone who recently had to pay for a lost keg -- and then start comparing serial numbers.

I know that's sketchy but it's headed in the grown-up, investigative direction.

/Is Pissed

//Had a six-pack and nothing to do

//This farking city
Is run by pigs
They take the rights away
From all the kids

AeroBrewer: Hmmmm, underage drinkers -- would it not have been better to seize the keg and allow whomever rented to pay for the replacement. And then inquire with local distributors about anyone who recently had to pay for a lost keg -- and then start comparing serial numbers.

I know that's sketchy but it's headed in the grown-up, investigative direction.

i dont know i still think its great, the person who put the deposit down lost it, and this is coming from someone who hates cops

Ryu Hayabusa: Dr. Frisbee: It's not as bad as you guys think. It was a keg of The Beast.

They were just putting it out of its misery.

Underage Party = Crappy beer.
/However, best beer ever: free

Truer words have never been spoken. My standards for alcohol go quite low when it's free.

Especially when I was a minor.

I remember parties with The Beast. Good times. I even did my first keg stand with it.

FTFA The subject would not leave as he was waiting for his friend to arrive and had permission to be on the property. An altercation occurred and the subject was handcuffed by the Sheriff. The Sheriff then decided to release the subject but had no handcuff key and another deputy had to be summoned to the scene with a key.


That Sheriff Kelly is a regular Elliot Ness. Someone should give him an award.

the 2007 shooting of a beer keg in the Mondex.

Beats getting shot in th ebung hole.

This cop sounds awesome.

This sheriff needs to hang.

Where are the "Machinegun Kelly" pics?

Man, if you can't be a power-tripping, hillbilly, redneck sheriff in Florida, where can you? Truly a dying breed.

Reminds me of a friend in college who disappeared into the basement. We heard some loud noises and just ignored it because he was kinda off anyways. He comes up later and he had sawed an empty barrel in half with a table saw just to see what the inside looked like.

He doesn't read the papers. SWAT teams are the answer to a police chief's conundrum: "How can I over-project force without accountability?". An "apparent drug tip" or "potential terrorist lead" at the party, would have allowed his SWAT team to shoot anything/anyone, C4 the keg, confiscate vehicles, and never apologize. Isn't that nice?

Reagan cronies or Bush put through that Omnibus Drug Act of 1986, and that was the beginning of the end for regular citizens. If Nixon could see the effects of what he signed in 1973, he wouldn't have issued it.

What is America coming to when the police can't go around shooting things at will, with no regard for their training, policies, procedures, or for human safety??

The terrorists have already won. RIP America.

Pujols: Man, if you can't be a power-tripping, hillbilly, redneck sheriff in Florida, where can you? Truly a dying breed.

Texas

tweek46420: AeroBrewer: Hmmmm, underage drinkers -- would it not have been better to seize the keg and allow whomever rented to pay for the replacement. And then inquire with local distributors about anyone who recently had to pay for a lost keg -- and then start comparing serial numbers.

I know that's sketchy but it's headed in the grown-up, investigative direction.

i dont know i still think its great, the person who put the deposit down lost it, and this is coming from someone who hates cops

What is it with these places that register serial numbers of kegs? Is that even real? Around here, you just go buy one, if you bring it back you get $50 back as a deposit. Don't have to register where its going, they dont care if you even bring it back, etc. I'm going to say that I've thrown more keg parties than the average person and I have never seen such a serial number. I keep a spare keg shell just to trade in for the next one, sometimes its upwards of a month before I take it back. The cops should know that the party-people cant take back a keg with a hole in it, likely wouldn't even try. He just got all Super Trooper and decided to show his cool on a helpless keg of ST. Anky's

I am from that area of Florida and have drank at the Mondex. Just a bunch of rednecks driving through the mud in their trucks.
I am good friends with Dean Kelly's son, so I have know Dean for about 20 years. He's a nice guy, but there is definitely a good 'ole boy mentality around there.
/Don't hate on Dean too much
//He shouldn't have shot the keg though

REMEMBER:
Guns don' t kill beer kegs, power-tripping, hillbilly, redneck sheriffs kill beer kegs.

kegs in NY are tagged, have serial numbers, and are expensive
http://albany.bizjournals.com/albany/stories/2003/06/23/daily24.html

"It is undetermined as to the actual keg which was shot due to conflicting witness statements.


Pssssss - it's the one with the hole in it.

krackpipe: Reagan cronies or Bush
Ya know, whichever one makes my horsecock statement seem more realistic

approve

If it was good beer -bad sheriff.

If it was Natty Light -shoot it again! It ain't dead yet!

FTFA: "An decision is expected in the next seven to 10 days."

Where I'm from, we actually pronounce the 'd' in decision, so we'd say "A decision ...".

Kelly defended the action as a dramatic way to impress endager the health, well-being, and livesunderage drinkers by firing bullets in the company, and the absence of presence, of those who did not pose an immediate and imminent threat to the lives of other.

What a dangerous wacko.

"The second incident reported was another party held and again Sheriff Kelly and deputies arrived and ordered the crowd to disperse; at which time coolers and lawn chairs were thrown into the bonfire by Sheriff Kelly.

So he likes to poison the atmosphere as well.

"At this incident, a subject was told to leave the area and went to his friend's residence on private property at which time Sheriff Kelly ordered him to leave the property. The subject would not leave as he was waiting for his friend to arrive and had permission to be on the property. An altercation occurred and the subject was handcuffed by the Sheriff. The Sheriff then decided to release the subject but had no handcuff key and another deputy had to be summoned to the scene with a key.

So he trespasses, kidnaps and unlawfully restrains people as well. I say charge him as a CRIMINAL since, ya know, he BROKE THE LAW.
Oh, wait... that's what pigs usually do when not sitting on their hands.

/love how he has a loyal patsy to take the fall

Dr. Frisbee: Ryu Hayabusa: Dr. Frisbee: It's not as bad as you guys think. It was a keg of The Beast.

They were just putting it out of its misery.

Underage Party = Crappy beer.
/However, best beer ever: free

Truer words have never been spoken. My standards for alcohol go quite low when it's free.

Especially when I was a minor.

I remember parties with The Beast. Good times. I even did my first keg stand with it.

Mine was Cheapstone, which seems to be a staple in the South.

/Must admit. Lake trips, Dune Buggies, working in the garage. Still almost always have a 30 of Cheapstone. I gues I fail as a beer snob.

From the article:

Kelly defended the action as a dramatic way to impress underage drinkers.

WHOA! DUDE! I'm totally impressed! Now I wanna go and get all my buds and shoot us some beer kegs!

what kind of lame-ass party only has 1 keg?

ezz25: back as a deposit. Don't have to register where its going, they dont care if you even bring it back, etc. I'm going to say that I've thrown more keg parties than the average person and I have never seen such a serial number. I keep a spare keg shell just to trade in for the next one, sometimes its upwards of a month before I take it back. The cops should know that the party-people cant take back a keg

Given a keg costs $150+ they certainly do care if they gt it back.

thelordofcheese: Kelly defended the action as a dramatic way to impress endager the health, well-being, and livesunderage drinkers by firing bullets in the company, and the absence of presence, of those who did not pose an immediate and imminent threat to the lives of other.


What?

This was a very unsafe thing to do, and those officers have no business carrying firearms if they think this was a safe thing to do.

This most likely occurred at night. These officers probably could not see more than twenty yards past the keg in the direction that they were shooting. What if some of the underagers went off into the woods to screw before the cops came, and were on their way back? What if some of the kids were hiding in the woods in the direction the shot was fired.

A keg is under high pressure and is made of metal. Shooting one is likely to produce shrapnel. This kind of shrapnel could kill anyone that it hits out to at least 100 yards. The police officer was probably much closer to the keg than this, and risked his own life as well as the lives of everybody else in the area.

Kick these guys off the force and charge them with a felony so that they can never legally own a firearm again.

Anyone who uses the phrase 'send a (whatever) message' needs to be skinned alive and thrown in salt water. Same goes for anyone who wastes beer.

/rock on, cop-haters (or is it ex-felons?)

Helios1182: ezz25: back as a deposit. Don't have to register where its going, they dont care if you even bring it back, etc. I'm going to say that I've thrown more keg parties than the average person and I have never seen such a serial number. I keep a spare keg shell just to trade in for the next one, sometimes its upwards of a month before I take it back. The cops should know that the party-people cant take back a keg

Given a keg costs $150+ they certainly do care if they gt it back.

The deposit is so you will hopefully bring it back, but the keg is worth much more than the deposit. They are the property of anheuser bush, and you can get in trouble if you do something like build a bbq grill out of one, so shooting it would be the same thing.

/take off the sticker, grind off the serial number and the part that says property of AB.
//mmmmm... bbq...

JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: A keg is under high pressure and is made of metal. Shooting one is likely to produce shrapnel. This kind of shrapnel could kill anyone that it hits out to at least 100 yards.

lol, make sh*t up much?
Shooting anything metal is never particularly safe but high pressure? 100 yards? Once you tap a keg and start dispensing you might run somewhere in excess of 10psi if the idiot at the tap pumped it too many times. The horror!

jesus christ, you think it was DANGEROUS for the sheriff to fire a round into a keg?

these people get EXTENSIVE training, they're not some fourteen year old wanna-be gangs-duh off church street.

You think the ammo they use is just like the 9 caps you buy at walmart or something?

The 10mm and .45 ammo deputies and police use are just shy of the maximum load their weapon can handle... they're not 9mm underpowered plinking rounds but heavy bulleted, well primered ammunition capable of killing a person through the door of a good pickup. This is ammunition that will take your life in one head shot THROUGH a windshield, not ammo that bounces off a plaster wall. Copper jacketed heavy lead alloy ammo. Its not gonna bounce off a pissy little ALUMINUM beer keg.

The sheriff probably didn't have any means to find out WHO actually owned the keg nor was he going to get an honest answer as to whom purchased it... so instead of finding in charging someone falsely with providing alcohol to minors he simply put a cap in their return, denying them their deposit.

The company that sold the keg isn't out a penny, the keg's recyclable and the sheriff is within his rights of destruction of captured materials. He may, at his WHIM (sheriff) make equipment used in the crime unusable at the scene. There ARE NO "destruction of private property" laws that apply.

The prosecutor simply doesn't want a whole "playing favorites" game to occur.

FTA: "Only bits and pieces of information were gathered but addition names were provided. Investigator Francis Monaco has been able to determine two other deputies were present at the keg shooting and the deputy who drove Sheriff Kelly to the pond area stated that Sheriff Kelly did not fire any firearm, but the deputy shot at the keg with two firearms.

It was not shot by the sheriff.
But it was shot by the de-pu-ty.

prjindigo: He may, at his WHIM (sheriff) make equipment used in the crime unusable at the scene.

While I do think this was far more dangerous than need-be, the man is correct. Simply confiscating the keg would have the same effect as shooting a hole in it. The owner ain't dumb enough to ask for it back.

prjindigo: jesus christ, you think it was DANGEROUS for the sheriff to fire a round into a keg?

It's pretty farking dangerous to fire a round into ANY pressurized container, Einstein.

Unfreakable: OMG they're shooting the beer! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

seeing as that this is fark, i'm surprised there were no cries for his death on the initial entry to the thread

Last time I got a keg was two or three years ago, and the deposit was $10. I really couldn't have cared less about bringing it back. The tap was another story, deposit on that was $50.

prjindigo: jesus christ, you think it was DANGEROUS for the sheriff to fire a round into a keg?

these people get EXTENSIVE training, they're not some fourteen year old wanna-be gangs-duh off church street.

You think the ammo they use is just like the 9 caps you buy at walmart or something?

The 10mm and .45 ammo deputies and police use are just shy of the maximum load their weapon can handle... they're not 9mm underpowered plinking rounds but heavy bulleted, well primered ammunition capable of killing a person through the door of a good pickup. This is ammunition that will take your life in one head shot THROUGH a windshield, not ammo that bounces off a plaster wall. Copper jacketed heavy lead alloy ammo. Its not gonna bounce off a pissy little ALUMINUM beer keg.

The sheriff probably didn't have any means to find out WHO actually owned the keg nor was he going to get an honest answer as to whom purchased it... so instead of finding in charging someone falsely with providing alcohol to minors he simply put a cap in their return, denying them their deposit.

The company that sold the keg isn't out a penny, the keg's recyclable and the sheriff is within his rights of destruction of captured materials. He may, at his WHIM (sheriff) make equipment used in the crime unusable at the scene. There ARE NO "destruction of private property" laws that apply.

The prosecutor simply doesn't want a whole "playing favorites" game to occur.

good troll :thumbsup:

prjindigo: jesus christ, you think it was DANGEROUS for the sheriff to fire a round into a keg?

these people get EXTENSIVE training, they're not some fourteen year old wanna-be gangs-duh off church street.

You think the ammo they use is just like the 9 caps you buy at walmart or something?

The 10mm and .45 ammo deputies and police use are just shy of the maximum load their weapon can handle... they're not 9mm underpowered plinking rounds but heavy bulleted, well primered ammunition capable of killing a person through the door of a good pickup. This is ammunition that will take your life in one head shot THROUGH a windshield, not ammo that bounces off a plaster wall. Copper jacketed heavy lead alloy ammo. Its not gonna bounce off a pissy little ALUMINUM beer keg.

The sheriff probably didn't have any means to find out WHO actually owned the keg nor was he going to get an honest answer as to whom purchased it... so instead of finding in charging someone falsely with providing alcohol to minors he simply put a cap in their return, denying them their deposit.

The company that sold the keg isn't out a penny, the keg's recyclable and the sheriff is within his rights of destruction of captured materials. He may, at his WHIM (sheriff) make equipment used in the crime unusable at the scene. There ARE NO "destruction of private property" laws that apply.

The prosecutor simply doesn't want a whole "playing favorites" game to occur.

Wow,
Can I have your baby , or sumptin, because, you clearly are a god among men, I mean, you just simply exude worthiness and grandeur. I bet you rock with your cock out dude!

FarkinHostile: He hates these kegs! Stay away from the kegs!!

lmao. Jerk reference, right?

The keg must have been coming right for him.

/Seriously though, what kind of sick animal would do this to beer?

That keg had it comin'

If only we had some type of forum where we could share our favorite beer choices with others who care couldn't care less?

prjindigo: The company that sold the keg isn't out a penny

However, the brewery that owns the keg is out some $150.

Regarding ballistics, there's only a chance that this wasn't a stupid thing to do. If the keg was close to full, the bullet would have entered but not left, since the volume of beer would have been sufficient to stop most handgun rounds. If the keg wasn't full, allowing the bullet to pass through metal, then air, then metal, the bullet very well may have retained enough energy to kill someone.

Either way, this was an abysmally stupid thing to do. I really hope he gets a felony conviction on his record. This is offensive to good cops, to people who understand proper firearm handling, and to those that realize that cops aren't somehow mystically endowed with greater firearm wisdom than the huddled masses.

ttc2301: Anyone who uses the phrase 'send a (whatever) message' needs to be skinned alive and thrown in salt water. Same goes for anyone who wastes beer.

But wouldn't that be sending them a message?

/head asplodes

An decision is expected in the next seven to 10 days.

What an hero.

\prjindigo: He may, at his WHIM (sheriff) make equipment used in the crime unusable at the scene.

Oh yes good point, so shooting it would be the most reasonable way to approach this in your eyes?

If only someone would invent a simple mechanism to remove all of its contents this all could have been avoided.

FelineMommy27: Damn, just damn.

I like the "executive privilege" claim, too. I must've missed that clause in the Asshat Sheriff's Handbook.

Heh I think this deserves the hero tag, just cause he had the cajones to make an impression on some young people who might otherwise just become future fark fodder.

Also he blowed stuff up. A+

Oh the humanity!!

ha1fway: JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: A keg is under high pressure and is made of metal. Shooting one is likely to produce shrapnel. This kind of shrapnel could kill anyone that it hits out to at least 100 yards.

lol, make sh*t up much?
Shooting anything metal is never particularly safe but high pressure? 100 yards? Once you tap a keg and start dispensing you might run somewhere in excess of 10psi if the idiot at the tap pumped it too many times. The horror!

I saw a video of a guy shooting a fire extinguisher at 100 yards, and half of it came back and put a huge dent in the van he was standing next to. I would not get within 100 yards of something metal and pressurized being shot, whether we are talking can of spray paint, keg, or propane tank.

Nobody noticecd the ad for "ARTIC AIR" air conditioning?

i just want to know if they got the deposit back. Or is that only in Ohigho?

"The governor has been asked to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the actions of Putnam County Sheriff Dean Kelly and deputies in two alcohol-related incidents, including the 2007 shooting of a beer keg in the Mondex."

You're a keg, gettin' shot in the Mondex has gotta smart!

Helios1182: ezz25: back as a deposit. Don't have to register where its going, they dont care if you even bring it back, etc. I'm going to say that I've thrown more keg parties than the average person and I have never seen such a serial number. I keep a spare keg shell just to trade in for the next one, sometimes its upwards of a month before I take it back. The cops should know that the party-people cant take back a keg

Given a keg costs $150+ they certainly do care if they gt it back.

we just had to order in a new shipment of kegs at my brewery for asshatedness for that..

minimum order of 24 kegs at $180 a piece..
the same weekend I ordered all those kegs, I got a return back with a two year old buy date

you keep that keg lying around, that meens I don't have kegs to put more beer into, that meens I still have to replace the shell you are holding onto so you don't have to pay a deposit for your next party.

it's not a beer can, you don't own the keg, you only bought the beer that's IN THE KEG. the deposit is to make sure you return it, so I don't have to spend $180 so YOU can save $50 that you'd get back anyways.

I've prosecuted scrap shops that have crushed my kegs,and I've prosecuted cops that have drilled holes in my kegs to determain weather or not the contents actually had beer in them.

you damn well better belive I'd have this guy charged with destruction of private property if he shot one of my kegs

for farks sake.. its a DEPOSIT! you GET IT BACK!!! stop hording the kegs!!!

SwingAwayMarell: krackpipe: Reagan cronies or Bush
Ya know, whichever one makes my horsecock statement seem more realistic

Whatever horsecock insult covers up my ignorance of facts.

A completely irresponsible use of a firearm. This is why in the U.S. it should only be legal for responsible authorities like the military or police to own guns and...

oh wait.

Just to let everyone know, this farking asshat, Dean Kelly, was soundly defeated in his re-election bid by Jeff Hardy on August 26th, 2008. (YESTERDAY!) They call him and his command staff the "Kelly Keg Klan".

I am almost ashamed to admit that I live in the same county as this prick, but I do. He still faces an investigation into the allegations of gross misconduct and putting lives in danger.

Good riddance Dean. Got nothing for ya but love, brother!

Go JEFF HARDY!!! wooooo-woooooooo!

Palatka Polecat

Read for yourself:

Palatka Daily News - August 27th, 2008

Sheriff, superintendent of schools bounced out

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2008/08/27/news/news01.txt