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2008-08-24 07:21:30 PM
All_Farked_Up: I assume you mean straight woman because if a man likes dick up his ass he's not straight.

What if he just likes his wife's strap-on up his ass? There's nothing particularly gay about that....anymore than a lesbian is straight if she likes dildos.
 
2008-08-24 07:22:06 PM
letrole: There is very little 'hard-wiring' involved in sexual attraction.

bartink: Source? Other than your posterior.

Bushmen: They don't give a whit about breasts, but they do enjoy very large and pendulent labia.

Imperial China: Footbinding was used to produce the 'lotus foot'. In bowlderised accounts, Westerners are told that it caused a woman to be both housebound and dependent upon her husband. Actually, the 'lotus foot' was used for both manual (pedal?) masturbation of the man, and also as a plug to stimulate a man's anus when the woman wrapped her legs around him during sex.

In times of famine, men are repulsed by a slim figure, and in times of plenty, it's fat chicks.
 
2008-08-24 07:22:27 PM
Right on the front page at the AFA:

"McDonald's sponsors gay pride parade - photos included"

Yeah... that's not gay at all...

When the old white men of America finally admit that it's fun to have somethin' in the ole pooper, we'll all be better off. Don't deny it people, blame God for putting those nerve endings and that darn prostate there!
 
2008-08-24 07:22:38 PM
WhyteRaven74: You're forgetting that half the crowd will jump on calling it unnatural. An argument that is totally bunk.

Calling what unnatural?
 
2008-08-24 07:23:48 PM
One would think only men have a butt-hole readng recent comments...

/anus does self-lubricate
//there are dozens of glands that promote orgasm through anus for females
///not sure I want to elucidate further (stay classy...fail)
 
2008-08-24 07:23:53 PM
img384.imageshack.us

I sell 15 more of these I get a free toaster.

/hi-def?... really necessary?
//strategically blurred for your protection
 
2008-08-24 07:25:14 PM
From the AFA site.

U.S. Senator Roger Wicker has introduced the Marriage Protection Amendment in the U.S. Senate. This constitutional amendment would keep liberal activist judges from forcing homosexual marriage on every American.

So legal gay marriage means every American must marry a partner of the same sex? Wow I guess I didn't understand.
 
2008-08-24 07:26:36 PM
mister aj: bartink: mister aj: So ... does the anus self-lubricate like the vagina does?

Does it matter?
Well, everybody's claiming that homosexuality is natural. There's clear evidence that heterosexuality is - you don't need to buy lube for that, if everybody involved is turned on, but homosexuals need the help of unnatural external aids, the body isn't adapted for that. Natural my ass.


I think they mean their sexual desires are natural. They don't wake up one day and yell, "Oh boy! wouldn't it be fun to be attracted to the same sex instead of the opposite so that much of society, including my family, will ostracize or downright hate me my entire life?"

Everyone does shiatloads of unnatural things anyway, if "natural" strictly refers to using a body part for its apparently intended function.

What if I use my foot to press gas and brake pedals rather than for the natural purposes of standing and walking? It's certainly not natural for a human to control big machines that propel them 70 mph. Considering the huge number of traffic fatalities, one could argue that somebody upstairs frowns upon this practice.

It's not very natural to sit hunched over a computer desk, straining your eyes, wrists, neck and whatever else.

Communicating over the internet seems pretty unnatural too. We have the larynx for that (and hand gestures, for Italians).

And, some straight couples need lube every time.
 
2008-08-24 07:27:02 PM
Misha80: From the AFA site.

U.S. Senator Roger Wicker has introduced the Marriage Protection Amendment in the U.S. Senate. This constitutional amendment would keep liberal activist judges from forcing homosexual marriage on every American.

So legal gay marriage means every American must marry a partner of the same sex? Wow I guess I didn't understand.


LOL @ that douche

i liked Lewis Black's whole bit about the Gay Bandidos ruining American families
 
2008-08-24 07:27:22 PM
letrole: Bushmen: They don't give a whit about breasts, but they do enjoy very large and pendulent labia.

Imperial China: Footbinding was used to produce the 'lotus foot'. In bowlderised accounts, Westerners are told that it caused a woman to be both housebound and dependent upon her husband. Actually, the 'lotus foot' was used for both manual (pedal?) masturbation of the man, and also as a plug to stimulate a man's anus when the woman wrapped her legs around him during sex.

In times of famine, men are repulsed by a slim figure, and in times of plenty, it's fat chicks.


Source? Still waiting. Looks like its your posterior after all.

Color me shocked.
 
2008-08-24 07:27:39 PM
HomoHabilis: I sell 15 more of these I get a free toaster.

/hi-def?... really necessary?
//strategically blurred for your protection


and now my company gets to pay for a new keyboard.

Thanks dude. lol
 
2008-08-24 07:28:06 PM
Batewoman: NathanielTaggart: From their online material, here are the companies they rail against for progressive social policies. I think we should thank each one:

Microsoft
Anheuser-Busch
Comcast
Disney
Johnson and Johnson
Viacom
JP Morgan Chase
Merrill Lynch
Nike
Ford
Time Warner
Aetna
GE


I'm sorry but I agree with hating on Anheuser-Busch. It used to be lousy American beer. Now it's lousy multinational corporate beer.
 
2008-08-24 07:28:55 PM
NYZooMan: I knew one gal whose ass self-lubed much more than that. Extra lube was never needed. Hell she could have collected her own and sold it there was enough of it.

i190.photobucket.com
 
2008-08-24 07:29:43 PM
Hanky: Is there an online version of the card from Hallmark? I would like to let Chairmon Wildmon that I am now considering gay man love thanks to him and wish to direct it specifically at him.

"Attacked by Gay Love"

sounds like a fun college indie band
 
2008-08-24 07:30:30 PM
MrGumboPants: Calling what unnatural?

homosexuality
 
2008-08-24 07:30:57 PM
letrole: If you get horny at the sight of a naked man, or if you get horny at the sight of a naked woman, it's only because you've been taught to make that association.

Were that true (it's not), then the ratio of heteros to non-heteros would be 1:1.

You really aren't good at this. You make statements like these without backing them up. Simply saying "if you get horny... it's only because you've been taught to make that association." doesn't make it true. Again, you're basing your entire argument on a premise that does not describe reality. Thus, your conclusions equally do not describe reality.

This might work for making really boring fantasy novels, but you fail at making coherent arguments.

I'm still here. My existence still proves you wrong.
 
2008-08-24 07:32:01 PM
Here you are Mr. Wildmon: your own private Buttsecks pic.

DIAF

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2008-08-24 07:33:10 PM
bartink: letrole: bartink: FAIL. Saying its unnatural has been been the meme of bigots as an excuse for their cultural position. Pointing out that it happens in nature too has been a reaction to that meme.
Well that's just special. When something that I say, that I actually say, merits a fail, feel free. Until then, confine your remarks to the immediate conversation.
letrole: Actually, it does. Part of the justification of homosexuality is that it must be natural, because it's been observed in animals.
Epic FAIL.


What has this point done to set you going? Here's a recap:

Nothing that man does is unnatural. Rousseau and all that. But natural does not mean good. The argument of animal practices being used to justify human practises is faulty, because animals sometime just act like animals.

I have not declared homosexuality to be unnatural. I've simply pointed out other 'natural' practises that have dreadful results if humans engage in them.
 
2008-08-24 07:33:53 PM
spectrek: Decent people keep their sex lives to themselves: if "these people" did that, no one would know. However, the message given out by the gay straight media is that they like lots of attention; they arrogantly get in the face of "nesters & breeders" fags and homos whenever they can, and when a "straight" gay person (guess you can't use the word "normal" anymore) objects, it's all with the "OOOOOOOOO, you don't like me!".

FTFY.

my wife and i don't get any shiat from any of the gays or lesbians we hang out with because they don't care. i don't care if they have buttsecks or not. it's none of my damn business.

if you've had any gays up in your face about being hetero, i suspect it's because you might be giving off a homophobic vibe.

or just being a dick.

/my broad brush, let me show you it
 
2008-08-24 07:34:12 PM
I sent mine. Thank you subby.
 
2008-08-24 07:34:28 PM
The gays are such a positive people. Always having parades about being proud of who you are and waving around colorful flags and shiat. What's the problem with that Christians? Not enough fire and brimstone for you?

"BE ASHAMED AND APOLOGIZE FOR WHO YOU ARE OR GOD WILL SMITE YE."
- The Bible (how I remember it at least)
 
2008-08-24 07:34:54 PM
Byno: Here you are Mr. Wildmon: your own private Buttsecks pic.

DIAF

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Where on earth is that picture from? I'm going to have nightmares.
 
2008-08-24 07:35:19 PM
ursomniac: Homophobe: (insert completely non-realistic premise)... et viola! (insert connected-to-the-dots homophobic rationale based upon the non-realistic premise).

I think the term "homophobia" is a misnomer, as it means "same fear". Being strictly objective, even the mangled definition isn't applicable to my beliefs, since I also take a dim view of heterosexuals who base their whole life around anonymous sexual encounters whilst ending up with various physical ailments as a result of their chosen behaviour. If you accuse me of homophobia, then, by all rights, you must also accuse me of whorophobia.
 
2008-08-24 07:35:29 PM
siva: The gays are such a positive people. Always having parades about being proud of who you are and waving around colorful flags and shiat. What's the problem with that Christians? Not enough fire and brimstone for you?

"BE ASHAMED AND APOLOGIZE FOR WHO YOU ARE OR GOD WILL SMITE YE."
- The Bible (how I remember it at least)


they want everyone to be as unhappy as they are.
 
2008-08-24 07:35:55 PM
Tr0mBoNe: I selected that I'm a pastor from Canada and it wanted my email and password. Farking phishers!

What legitimate use could the AFA have in asking for passwords?
 
2008-08-24 07:36:09 PM
phoenyx74: I sent mine. Thank you subby.

search my posts in this thread, please....
 
2008-08-24 07:36:59 PM
Dear Chairman Hall:

I am pleasantly surprised that Hallmark is willing to send a message to gay marriage opponents with this bold new line of greeting cards. While I somewhat despise your company for helping to create holidays that really shouldn't exist in an effort to extort money from me, this latest card venture really is worthy of applause.

As an uncaring, birthday forgetting, no calling on mothers-day, heterosexual jerk, let me be among those who congratulate you on taking a stand against the unethical anti-common-sense gay marriage opponents, even if you did it for the wrong reasons.

Cheers.

Roger Wilco
 
2008-08-24 07:37:49 PM
In after personal army
/nice one subby
 
2008-08-24 07:38:06 PM
Done.Now, I don't wanna hear any shiat from gay people after they find out marriage ain't all it's cracked up to be.You've all had plenty of warning.
 
2008-08-24 07:40:44 PM
mister aj: Oh, and the levels of HIV/AIDS are close to equal in homosexual and heterosexual populations, so there's nothing wrong with ho... wait, that's not actually true is it? Yes, AIDS is several orders of magnitude more prevelant in the homosexual movement.

Which radix? No it doesn't matter does it - you're lying from the outset.

No, based on orientation AIDS is not "several orders of magnitude" more prevalent among non-heterosexuals. Not even close, world-wide, and at best you'd have to go down to "several = 1" to be true for the US.

I understand that one of the underlying issues is that you don't understand what "several orders of magnitude" even MEANS, in terms of describing a proportional sample. I also understand that your needing to resort to an anti-gay joke (deleted here) reflects more your need to de-humanize us in order to better "justify" what you'd REALLY like to see happen, but are more-than-likely too cowardly to undertake yourself.

We were here before AIDS, you know. We'll still be there after AIDS is a memory. You WISH that AIDS were doing "the job" on your behalf because it conveniently removes you from having to get your hands dirty, and at the same time can use it as a weapon to "prove" that your unreal fantasy of a world without non-heterosexuality is somehow ordained either by a deity or nature itself.

But that's simply not reality.

I'm still here, and my existence proves that your fantasy is still only that. But for what it's worth you DO have my pity.
 
2008-08-24 07:40:55 PM
serialkittenkiller: , I don't wanna hear any shiat from gay people after they find out marriage ain't all it's cracked up to be.You've all had plenty of warning.

one of the problems that they had in Canada is that when they made gay marriage legal they forgot to change the divorce laws and some chicks had to wait over a year to split up when one of them decided she liked cock.
 
2008-08-24 07:42:07 PM
Madbassist1: phoenyx74: I sent mine. Thank you subby.

search my posts in this thread, please....


This, too. Sending the e-mail directly to Mr. Hall is probably a better idea, and so is going to your nearest Hallmark store and purchasing one of these cards.

/still love the idea of sending "Happy Buttsecks" cards to AFA
 
2008-08-24 07:42:14 PM
Wow this thread sure had a hot sticky explosion!
 
2008-08-24 07:42:23 PM
I'm glad to see Hallmark is so fast out of the gates on same sex marriage cards but I still don't see any "Congratulations on your manumission of slavery" cards. The least they could do is produce some "Happy Anniversary of the Abolition of Slavery " cards for Black History Month.

Some years ago I noticed the local pharmacy had a display of 100th birthday cards.

Which of these two social developments will have more impact on your life? Millions of people living to patriarchal ages or a few gay people doing what they've doing all along, only with people they find attractive rather than their wives or husbands?
 
2008-08-24 07:42:36 PM
serialkittenkiller: Done.Now, I don't wanna hear any shiat from gay people after they find out marriage ain't all it's cracked up to be.You've all had plenty of warning.

to be fair, everyone gets that warning and straight people have persisted in getting married for centuries
 
2008-08-24 07:42:56 PM
serialkittenkiller: Done.Now, I don't wanna hear any shiat from gay people after they find out marriage ain't all it's cracked up to be.You've all had plenty of warning.

Yep. I figure they have the right to go through a painful divorce that ruins them financially, just like the rest of us had to.
 
2008-08-24 07:43:27 PM
Subby,

The Karl Rove School of Political Discourse would like a word with you...Seriously...Never in my life have I seen such a masterful manipulation of idiots. Way to get em to fark themselves. Republicans everywhere are proud.
 
2008-08-24 07:43:42 PM
I'll tell you what's motherfarking un-natural:

www.madcoyote.com

Fark your couch
 
2008-08-24 07:43:45 PM
letrole: bartink: FAIL. Saying its unnatural has been been the meme of bigots as an excuse for their cultural position. Pointing out that it happens in nature too has been a reaction to that meme.

Well that's just special. When something that I say, that I actually say, merits a fail, feel free. Until then, confine your remarks to the immediate conversation.


Yoo hoo!

Haven't you paid attention? I don't think any assertion you've made in this thread hasn't completely failed...

I'm still here. You still fail.

(cue laughing guy)
 
2008-08-24 07:44:40 PM
Here's what I sent:

Subj: Ignore the AFA

Dear Chairman Hall:

I am surprised that the American Family Association is attacking a lifestyle which is legal in two states. Hallmark has always told us to send the very best. We're glad to see you have taken a giant step into the future. Hopefully, American Greeting Cards, your competitor, will follow your lead.

Also, when it was sent, did you notice they wanted your web-mail address and password. I don't farkin' think so, even if I did support their hateful bigotry.
 
2008-08-24 07:45:27 PM
kaminariko: The arguments are always based on irrational homophobia and religious dogma, which represents the foundation of faulty logic.

That would be part of your problem. You are looking for LOGIC in anything these groups say. These groups are usually based in fear and hate. Try looking there.
 
2008-08-24 07:45:47 PM
ursomniac: letrole: If you get horny at the sight of a naked man, or if you get horny at the sight of a naked woman, it's only because you've been taught to make that association.

Were that true (it's not), then the ratio of heteros to non-heteros would be 1:1.


That would be the ratio only if the two preferences were presented with equal status, and if the final choice had no reinforcement, either positive or negative.
 
2008-08-24 07:48:35 PM
Dear Big Cheif of Hallmark

I truly hate your company for the mass produced sentiments that pollute our holidays and homogenize our experiences. Burn, burn, burn.

That being said, ignore the AFA. They are a small group of people who weren't buying your products anyways because there wasn't enough Pray Or Die in your cards.
 
2008-08-24 07:48:59 PM
ursomniac: letrole: bartink: FAIL. Saying its unnatural has been been the meme of bigots as an excuse for their cultural position. Pointing out that it happens in nature too has been a reaction to that meme.

Well that's just special. When something that I say, that I actually say, merits a fail, feel free. Until then, confine your remarks to the immediate conversation.

Yoo hoo!

Haven't you paid attention? I don't think any assertion you've made in this thread hasn't completely failed...

I'm still here. You still fail.

(cue laughing guy)


Yes, but if you disappear in a puff of logic, won't you feel like Mister Silly?

/I keed
//keep up the good work
 
2008-08-24 07:49:38 PM
The email I sent to AFA:

Dear AFA,

Did you know that several studies have shown that those who dislike homosexuals, are statistically more likely to be homosexuals themselves?

As a Christian priest, I couldn't think of anyone more evil than someone who persecutes their brothers for a characteristic that does no harm in the world. Jesus said to love all, and you clearly did not hear his message. Or perhaps you were not loved enough as a child, and you simply do not know the meaning of love, or how to love. You are truly the ones who will suffer the damnation of hell, unless you accept Jesus's message that you must love everyone, even the devil himself, for they are all creations of God's divine love.


Damn, they make it easy to find Hallmark's email, but impossible to find their own. Come on, if you guys were truly fighting the righteous fight, shouldn't you be able to easily fend off any criticism that comes your way?
 
2008-08-24 07:49:50 PM
letrole: That would be the ratio only if the two preferences were presented with equal status, and if the final choice had no reinforcement, either positive or negative.

So you would expect that kids in San Fran would have higher rates of gayness. Got any data to suggest that might be true?

Better yet, do you have any scientific research that could validate any of your scientific claims?
 
2008-08-24 07:51:06 PM
StomperFourByFour: If you want to protect the sanctity of marriage, why not outlaw divorce?

Let's keep divorce, and outlaw marriage.
/single
 
2008-08-24 07:51:44 PM
Byno: I'll tell you what's motherfarking un-natural:



Fark your couch


Way worse NSFW (new window)
 
2008-08-24 07:52:20 PM
letrole: Homosexuality is a learned behaviour. The instinct for sex involves thrusting and groping and kissing and so forth. If you get horny at the sight of a naked man, or if you get horny at the sight of a naked woman, it's only because you've been taught to make that association.

you are so right, only i don't remember who the hell taught me that i should get rock hard when i was in the shower at boyscout camp back when i was 11, it sure as hell was not any of the other campers that kicked my ass over it although that may be why i am into hard core bondage now.......
 
2008-08-24 07:53:00 PM
Just thought I should mention that none of that was true.
 
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