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(CBS4Denver - KCNC)   TV reporter tries 200 proof ethanol made at Coors brewery on air, tries not to giggle   (cbs4denver.com) divider line 91
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2008-08-22 06:49:52 PM  
The Crack Kid: The magic percentage is 96%, higher than that, and the ethanol pulls the water out of your cells, dessicating them. Which does not make for smooth drinking.

Uhm... Last time I checked, alcohol was a natural dehydrator no matter what percentage it was.

100% pure will theoretically, as already mentioned, pretty much suck moisture out of the air. It is impossible to distill anything stronger than ~96%
 
2008-08-22 06:52:24 PM  
101111: Wait. Coors? Coors? As in the Coors family, co-founders of the Heritage Foundation and fielder of Republican Senate Candidate Pete Coors?

I guess money is money.


So? A huge party is going to be taking place in their backyard and you want them to act like petulant little kids? Sorry, but us republicans don't mind if the other sides has a little fun once in awhile. It should be worth a few chuckles, anyhow.

/Lives in Denver.
//Doesn't know if I will be venturing downtown this weekend or not.
 
2008-08-22 06:55:23 PM  
I only came here to say something smart about azeotropes, but I see that I was beaten to the punch.
 
2008-08-22 07:00:07 PM  
Cornwell: It is impossible to distill anything stronger than ~96%

Unless your air is dry, not hard to do. Or your distillate has a drying agent in it, also not hard to do. Also depends on the surface area/volume ratio and how fast you do it.

Other than those trivial-to-overcome issues, yeah it's "impossible".
 
2008-08-22 07:04:10 PM  
They had to brew something that strong just so the people would swallow the BS at the DNC convention.
 
2008-08-22 07:07:10 PM  
Bacontastesgood: Cornwell: It is impossible to distill anything stronger than ~96%

Unless your air is dry, not hard to do. Or your distillate has a drying agent in it, also not hard to do. Also depends on the surface area/volume ratio and how fast you do it.

Other than those trivial-to-overcome issues, yeah it's "impossible".


Yeah, IIRC, I was able to order "pharmaceutical grade" ethanol, which was approximately 99% ethanol. I could be mistaken, it was a long time ago.
 
2008-08-22 07:07:38 PM  
I chugged the last couple inches of a bottle of 151, punched one friend the the jaw, another in the package (because they wouldn't slap-box with me) and I'm not a violent drunk. Just hyper, I guess. Then I called a girl I knew, instructed her to meet me at a seedy motel that was in walking distance. Then I passed out on the couch of the band practice space/storage unit for 6 hours. Good times.
 
2008-08-22 07:09:48 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Cant be stopped
 
2008-08-22 07:20:19 PM  
Friction8r got the jump on me. Any jackass who had taken Chem 101 would know that there can never be anything that's 200 proof.
 
2008-08-22 07:22:32 PM  
In other news, Flying Dog, Wynkoop, Avery, Breckenridge and Charlie Papazian are also in the Colorado vicinity...
 
2008-08-22 07:28:31 PM  
Bacontastesgood: Cornwell: It is impossible to distill anything stronger than ~96%

Unless your air is dry, not hard to do. Or your distillate has a drying agent in it, also not hard to do. Also depends on the surface area/volume ratio and how fast you do it.

Other than those trivial-to-overcome issues, yeah it's "impossible".


It is impossible to distill anything alcohol that can be consumed without actually poisoning oneself stronger than ~96%

Fixed for anal-retentiveness among chem-students.
 
2008-08-22 07:41:18 PM  
Yea sure whatever: Great, now I'm going to waste the afternoon trying to figure out how they cracked the azeotrope to get 200 proof that isn't toxic.

meh, at least it's almost 3 - sounds like Friday quittin' time to me...


And even if they did - if it sat out in an open glass for a few minutes, the proof would drop - pure alcohol is so anhydrous that it will literally suck water right out of the air. It's stable at about 195 proof.
 
2008-08-22 07:44:29 PM  
As somebody else already pointed out. Oh, well.
Win some, lose some.
 
2008-08-22 07:47:33 PM  
Pzo211: "Room 305 for the Pelosi gangbang !! "

Scary

/No sleep for the slashies tonight
 
2008-08-22 07:52:01 PM  
stonent: Ethanol + benzene = Denatured alcohol

No, that equals EPA lawsuit. Benzene is not something they want passed around.
 
2008-08-22 07:55:41 PM  
sunsawed A hallmate in college decided to make some rum. He thought buying conventional still materials would set off the Revenuers. So being a chem major, he looked through some old books for a different kind of still. He set up a kit with some PVC pipe and filled it with marbles. The water vapor condenses on the marbles, leaving the alcohol behind.

It worked too well. After four hours he was expecting about a pint of Rum but only got about four ounces. You can spot check the alcohol content by lighting a spoon of it on fire. Under 100 proof it won't light. 100 it burns for a second. 110 two seconds. 120 3 seconds.

The shiat burned for half a minute and left nothing but a brown char on the spoon. He tested it in the Chem lab. 196 proof. He made the highest proof alcohol you can freaking make.


I did this back when I was in high school. The statute of limitations has long since expired on this. I was also able to make 196 proof stuff. It's really quite easy. The thing you need to be aware of is that the mash smells really bad when it's fermenting. But just damn, the stuff tasted pretty good when we diluted it with some mixers.
 
2008-08-22 07:58:02 PM  
either it's 200 proof or it tastes a bit like beer. you can't have it both ways.
 
2008-08-22 07:58:40 PM  
*reads thread*

blah blah math science blah blah

its friday, turn your brains off and start drinking, i certainly have.

/last summer of collegiate life
//cut me some slack
 
2008-08-22 07:58:58 PM  
blah blah something about drinking and driving blah blah.
 
2008-08-22 08:04:40 PM  
WTF!!!

Ethanol makes up only 15% of E85.

In other words, with every 15-gallons of ethanol you can make 100-gallons of E85 fuel.

If they're using 40,000 gallons of ethanol, that means they're making nearly 270,000 Gallons of E85 gas "to satisfy the environmentally friendlier, but still thirsty, DNC fleet."
 
2008-08-22 08:13:27 PM  
Yeast from making beer is converted into ethanol

Um, no? basic fail, Mr. Hooker (if that is your real name.)

You get alcohol from yeast when you feed them sugars, much like you get slow loris crap from a slow loris when you feed it Purina Slow Loris Chow.

You can't get alcohol by converting yeast. It all washes away when you try to baptise it.

/can't convert a slow loris, either
/damned antitriclavinist preterist heathens
 
2008-08-22 08:33:12 PM  
boot20: I drink hexane, so I'm getting a kick...

You really should try the heptane. It's exquisite.
 
2008-08-22 08:41:03 PM  
Benzene, the secret ingredient in Coors.
 
2008-08-22 09:07:34 PM  
stonent: Ethanol + benzene = Denatured alcohol

img93.imageshack.us
"He calls it The Dip."
 
2008-08-22 09:12:48 PM  
Damn, the chem major with the homemade white lightning still. Did he go on to be the hero of the dorm?
 
2008-08-22 09:30:28 PM  
poopalacarte: Reported by Mike Hooker.

hehe
hehehe

/hehehe


Mike Hunt was unavailable?
 
2008-08-22 09:41:45 PM  
www.erowid.org


Absinthe says Now, I feel like a pu$$y drink.
 
2008-08-22 09:42:02 PM  
Dr_Bojangles: Ethanol makes up only 15% of E85.

No, it's 85%. If it were 15%, then they'd call it E15, wouldn't they? And then what's the point?
 
2008-08-22 09:45:08 PM  
Dr_Bojangles: Ethanol makes up only 15% of E85.

In other words, with every 15-gallons of ethanol you can make 100-gallons of E85 fuel.


You suck at the Maths. E85 is 15% Gasoline. 85% Ethanol. Just like B11 is 11% Biodiesel.
 
2008-08-22 09:58:35 PM  
There is a bit of irony with coors being hand in hand with the democrats. They were the first brewery to break the unions around alcohol and beer production and were proud of it. My dads and great uncles were steamfitters back in the 70's and 80's and to this day the old timers refer to coors as "scab" beer.
 
2008-08-22 09:59:34 PM  
The link is even funnier:

CBS4's Hooker Tries 200 Proof Ethanol

Do all TV stations have their own hookers? Maybe I need to reconsider my profession...

/har har
//got nothin'
 
2008-08-22 10:45:33 PM  
I'm guessing all the hookers in Denver are going to have a HUGE weekend. This should really boost the local economy.
 
2008-08-22 10:49:44 PM  
It was only 100% alcohol by volume, not weight
 
2008-08-22 11:22:58 PM  
WTF!!!

Ethanol makes up only 15% of E85.


Lemme guess... you're from the east coast.
 
2008-08-22 11:25:19 PM  
Pressure-swinging would also work.
 
2008-08-23 01:04:57 AM  
Momus: Freak Flag Fly: TFA: "And it tastes a bit like beer. There should be just a little hint of beer in there."

Playing to their strengths, of course.

Insofar as Coors also tastes a bit like beer?


You, sir or madam, win the intartubes for making me snort ice. It wasn't pretty.
 
2008-08-23 03:01:00 AM  
The strongest I've ever had was some guy that distilled red wine. He ended up with what looked like red wine, but must've been at least 180 proof. Not that I tested it or anything, just based on the fact it was about that much stronger than 151.
 
2008-08-23 06:27:34 AM  
101111
Also, there are other ways to dry ethanol without azeotroping with benzene. Mol sieves have already been mentioned.

Bubble the distillate through some concentrated sulfuric acid before condensing it. Sucks the water vapor right out of it, leaving nearly 100% ethanol.
 
2008-08-23 08:13:58 AM  
When I was a kid, you could buy 200 proof alcohol from the drugstore.
I think they used it for compounding prescriptions.
I don't know what people were supposed to do with it when they took it home, but my friend and I told them we were high school students doing chemistry experiments (which we were).
You had to sign a poison form, and it did come with a federal tax seal.

After we were done with our synthesis (of Chloral, which exploded in the reaction flask), we had some left over, so we tried to drink a capful of it.

Pretty much sucks all the moisture out of your mouth.

Also, if you put it in a glass with dry ice, it gets really, really cold, and a LOT of carbon dioxide dissolves in it.

Then if you take a little swig of the stuff, it explodes in your mouth like the biggest pop rocks in the world.

Apparently, curiosity only kills cats.
 
2008-08-23 06:31:34 PM  
That article is so full of FAIL, it's amazing.

/So much wrong. So little time to make fun of it.
 
2008-08-25 02:34:47 PM  
Sgian Dubh: mobombhead: I thought you had to use benzine to make 200 proof which makes it poisonous.

If it's 200 proof, it's 100% ethanol. Unless you use some math of which I'm not aware, any benzine left in the mix would make the ethanol somewhat less than 100%, hence somewhat less than 200 proof.


Not true. If there is 0.001% benzine in it, it's going to be 99.999% alcohol. Are you going to label it 199.998 proof or 200 proof? I have never seen a fractional proof and you will round up in this condition.
 
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