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(CBS13.com - CBS Sacramento)   Caught on tape: Woman takes on 6'5", 215 pound, shotgun-wielding convenience store robber and wins   (cbs13.com) divider line 94
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2008-08-20 12:37:54 PM
FAIL
 
2008-08-20 12:39:20 PM
I'll see your "got owned by old lady with .22" and raise you a "got owned by convenience store woman while I'm wielding a shotgun".

/ROFL
 
2008-08-20 12:39:32 PM
That's a good way to get killed.

Good, bad...he's the guy with the gun.
 
2008-08-20 12:41:16 PM
She even BROKE his shotgun.
 
2008-08-20 12:42:13 PM
She broke his shotgun? Then the real hero is her husband, who should probably avoid viagra at any cost.
 
2008-08-20 12:42:23 PM
junglegoddess: That's a good way to get killed.

Good, bad...he's the guy with the gun.


Exactly. A happy ending does not negate a stupid act.
 
2008-08-20 12:42:34 PM
So they must not serve hot coffee at this convenience store.
 
2008-08-20 12:42:36 PM
Holy crap, that's scary/awesome. My husband is 6'5 and about 215; trying to get the drop on him is damn near impossible, and I'm built pretty well for a chick. Mad kudos to her!

...Hey, wait a minute...

*Calls into other room*

Honey, where were you yesterday? And where'd you get that bruise?...

/kidding
//still, good on her for fighting back!
///loves security camera pwnage videos
 
2008-08-20 12:43:40 PM
I live in Elk Grove, and I'm getting a kick out of these responses.
 
2008-08-20 12:43:58 PM
The reporter's name is Steve Large?

/girl-fap
//giggity-goo
 
2008-08-20 12:45:55 PM
I want to see the report on what kind of shotgun that was.

Shouldn't break just from somebody tugging on it.

/hehehe
//never growing up
 
2008-08-20 12:47:04 PM
ThatGuyOverThere: I want to see the report on what kind of shotgun that was.

Shouldn't break just from somebody tugging on it.

/hehehe
//never growing up


Oh, tugging on your shotgun's fine, but she slammed that sucker on the counter. That's not how you want your... shotgun treated.

/you be beavis this time
 
2008-08-20 12:47:07 PM
He'll never make it into the Evil League of Evil at this point.
 
2008-08-20 12:47:22 PM
junglegoddess: That's a good way to get killed.

Good, bad...he's the guy with the gun.


While I respect the police for always saying that they should be the one handling things, and that vigelantism is bad, Everyone knows that standing up to punks is the only way to keep society from devolving into a cesspool of anarchistic ... oh screw it. I can't get that excited about it.
 
2008-08-20 12:48:11 PM
L33t Squirrel

Holy crap, that's scary/awesome. My husband is 6'5 and about 215; trying to get the drop on him is damn near impossible, and I'm built pretty well for a chick. Mad kudos to her!


There is a big difference wrestling around in the bedroom while playing and a life or death fight. Still, I agree she gets 1000 badass points for this.
 
2008-08-20 12:48:24 PM
I like how the one guy stood there while she was going after the robber. Way to help out there Bob.
 
2008-08-20 12:49:32 PM
rule #6 from the how to rob a gas station handbook clearly states:

"do NOT buy your shotgun at the dollar store"

however...

rules #1-10 from the how not to lose your life working at a gas station handbook
ALL state:

"do NOT resist gigantic men with shotguns unless your life is worth less than the contents of the cash register."
 
2008-08-20 12:49:44 PM
That's one lucky woman. It's MUCH smarter to give him the money.
 
2008-08-20 12:52:28 PM
rubi_con_man: junglegoddess: That's a good way to get killed.

Good, bad...he's the guy with the gun.

While I respect the police for always saying that they should be the one handling things, and that vigelantism is bad, Everyone knows that standing up to punks is the only way to keep society from devolving into a cesspool of anarchistic ... oh screw it. I can't get that excited about it.


I won't have any problem fighting to the death if need be if someone tries to rape/murder me.

Putting my life on the line for some petty cash that belongs to the heartless corporation I work for? Not gonna happen. That's why they have insurance.

This woman was lucky. But incredibly stupid.
 
2008-08-20 12:54:48 PM
junglegoddess: I won't have any problem fighting to the death if need be if someone tries to rape/murder me.

Putting my life on the line for some petty cash that belongs to the heartless corporation I work for? Not gonna happen. That's why they have insurance.

This woman was lucky. But incredibly stupid.


What about the guy who robs you then decides to shoot you just for fun?
 
2008-08-20 12:56:11 PM
Tat'dGreaser: junglegoddess: I won't have any problem fighting to the death if need be if someone tries to rape/murder me.

Putting my life on the line for some petty cash that belongs to the heartless corporation I work for? Not gonna happen. That's why they have insurance.

This woman was lucky. But incredibly stupid.

What about the guy who robs you then decides to shoot you just for fun?



don't forget the ones that do it for sport, it IS an olympic year...
 
2008-08-20 12:57:03 PM
"Alright, Hamilton!!"
 
2008-08-20 12:57:04 PM
junglegoddess: Putting my life on the line for some petty cash that belongs to the heartless corporation I work for? Not gonna happen. That's why they have insurance.

How do you know she didn't own the convenience store?

Kudos to this woman for not being a victim. Sure, maybe it's "smarter" not to get killed over a little cash, but maybe it's also "smarter" to show the thugs of the world that you're not going to bend over and take it like a little biatch.

I guarantee you that word will travel fast in that neighborhood and any would-be robbers will think twice about trying to knock over her store.
 
2008-08-20 12:57:24 PM
Timmy the Tumor: don't forget the ones that do it for sport, it IS an olympic year...

Sad thing is, joke or not, I could see someone doing that.
 
2008-08-20 12:58:26 PM
Tat'dGreaser: Timmy the Tumor: don't forget the ones that do it for sport, it IS an olympic year...

Sad thing is, joke or not, I could see someone doing that.


images.jupiterimages.com
 
2008-08-20 12:59:35 PM
Tat'dGreaser: What about the guy who robs you then decides to shoot you just for fun?

When I was working as a sub teacher in the juvie detention center, there was a kid that did that. The chick didn't resist at all, gave him everything he asked for. Then he shot her square in the face. Yep, she died.

He went in to some strange mental state when he talked about it with a dreamy little smile on his face.

/tried as an adult
//kept in juvie until he got older
/sometimes wish MI had the death penalty
 
2008-08-20 01:00:53 PM
FarkinHostile: There is a big difference wrestling around in the bedroom while playing fighting over the TV remote and a life or death fight. Still, I agree she gets 1000 badass points for this.

FTFY. :P (Bastard sits on me and tickles. ARRRGH. I know where he sleeps.........)

And yes, many badass points for her. Though I am looking forward to seeing how long the thread will remain "whoo, you go girl" before the anti-gun and anti-self-defense types come in. I'll need warning so I can get me some popcorn! Though which is funnier: this story, or yesterday's when that old lady made the punk that broke into her house turn himself in over the phone? I LOL'd so hard at that one.
 
2008-08-20 01:01:05 PM
Tat'dGreaser: junglegoddess: I won't have any problem fighting to the death if need be if someone tries to rape/murder me.

Putting my life on the line for some petty cash that belongs to the heartless corporation I work for? Not gonna happen. That's why they have insurance.

This woman was lucky. But incredibly stupid.

What about the guy who robs you then decides to shoot you just for fun?


Nothing you can really do about that. Just have to hope that the armed criminal facing you is of the "kind & benevolent" variety.

/really.
//did this for a living for too many years.
 
2008-08-20 01:01:09 PM
ThatGuyOverThere: When I was working as a sub teacher in the juvie detention center, there was a kid that did that. The chick didn't resist at all, gave him everything he asked for. Then he shot her square in the face. Yep, she died.

Same thing happened to my friend. Gave the robber everything so he shot her twice in the heart. We're not sure if she died right away but we know that instead of calling the cops people just took what else she had on her.
 
2008-08-20 01:02:41 PM
Tat'dGreaser: junglegoddess: I won't have any problem fighting to the death if need be if someone tries to rape/murder me.

Putting my life on the line for some petty cash that belongs to the heartless corporation I work for? Not gonna happen. That's why they have insurance.

This woman was lucky. But incredibly stupid.

What about the guy who robs you then decides to shoot you just for fun?


I think statistics will show that giving them the money is still the safer choice. If they'll shoot you even if you comply, they'll probably shoot you the second you indicate you won't.

I'm glad it worked out for her.

It's just not a gamble I'd be willing to take.
 
2008-08-20 01:02:52 PM
f=ma

He was big, but she was moving faster. Of course, she's lucky he didn't just shoot her. Those tiny pellets move REALLY fast.
 
2008-08-20 01:04:41 PM
I wouldn't have risked my life over money, but I can't fault her for doing it. She knew she was taking a risk and decided to go for it.

It is true that just because you cooperate with a criminal doesn't mean they won't hurt you anyway. Some of them just like hurting people.
 
2008-08-20 01:05:57 PM
junglegoddess: I think statistics will show that giving them the money is still the safer choice. If they'll shoot you even if you comply, they'll probably shoot you the second you indicate you won't.

I'm glad it worked out for her.

It's just not a gamble I'd be willing to take.


Or you could just choose to not be a victim. Maybe? No?
 
2008-08-20 01:07:32 PM
Good for her for fighting back. It's her life and she can decide how she wants to live it (or end it). She gambled and won.

And what's up with the farkin' headline? She didn't start the fight. The guy with the gun technically started the fight by trying to rob her in the first place. She finished the fight. Stupid headline makes it sound like she was the aggressor.
 
2008-08-20 01:09:04 PM
L33t Squirrel: FarkinHostile: There is a big difference wrestling around in the bedroom while playing fighting over the TV remote and a life or death fight. Still, I agree she gets 1000 badass points for this.

FTFY. :P (Bastard sits on me and tickles. ARRRGH. I know where he sleeps.........)

And yes, many badass points for her. Though I am looking forward to seeing how long the thread will remain "whoo, you go girl" before the anti-gun and anti-self-defense types come in. I'll need warning so I can get me some popcorn!


How 'bout us middle-of-the-road types? I think "A well-armed populace is the best defense against tyranny" is generally a good idea, except maybe when you cram 14 million people together on a tiny little island off the eastern seaboard. I'm just sayin'.

/making popcorn
//will share
 
2008-08-20 01:12:26 PM
I'm guessing the "perp" was just trying to get enough money to pay for his tank of gas...

biatch betta' have my ethanol!!!


If the shotgun hadn't crossed the counter and been pointed directly at her, I'd be 100% against her grabbing it. Since it was, I'm all for her grabbing it--she had every reason to believe she HAD to act. Bravo.

However, when you watch the rest of the video and listen to the commentary, her repeated attacks of the guy in the store ("...she attacks him again and again, where she gets hit again, and again...") and chased him out of the store when he was trying to flee, were downright stupid, especially for a "...mother of two children..." Stupid.
 
2008-08-20 01:13:59 PM
Tat'dGreaser: junglegoddess: I think statistics will show that giving them the money is still the safer choice. If they'll shoot you even if you comply, they'll probably shoot you the second you indicate you won't.

I'm glad it worked out for her.

It's just not a gamble I'd be willing to take.

Or you could just choose to not be a victim. Maybe? No?


Hostile much?

I choose not to be a victim when my life -- or my loved ones -- are in danger. Money isn't worth dying over.
 
2008-08-20 01:16:52 PM
junglegoddess: Hostile much?

I choose not to be a victim when my life -- or my loved ones -- are in danger. Money isn't worth dying over.


Yes.

These threads just tick me off, I can't understand this mentality people have. Things have happened in my life that have made me lose sleep and I vow to never let them happen again. Makes me sad to hear people advocating being a victim and letting people continue to do things without the fear of reprecussions.
 
2008-08-20 01:17:34 PM
junglegoddess

Hostile much?


Actually, that would be me.
 
2008-08-20 01:19:22 PM
Funny how the petite brunette goes apeshiat while the FATASS blonde ponytail just sits back and texts her imaginary girlfriends, you'd think that once the brunette got the drop, Tubby would at least Sumo her ass on him or something...

/I usually don't fling that "fatass" term around, but that pissed me off...
//And yes, I know she was probably dialing 911, but I like my scenario better...
///I would've gone apeshiat...Hubby would've tried to stop me, the pussy
 
2008-08-20 01:19:37 PM
Tat'dGreaser:

Hey, it would probably work out for you.

Me?

Let's just say I'm little. I'm not likely to be able to hurt anyone significantly bigger than myself.

Backing off would most definitely be the better choice for me.

No one likes criminals getting away with anything. But for some of us, it's not a choice. We just have to have faith that either the police get them, or karma does.
 
2008-08-20 01:21:10 PM
Pilikia: How 'bout us middle-of-the-road types? I think "A well-armed populace is the best defense against tyranny" is generally a good idea, except maybe when you cram 14 million people together on a tiny little island off the eastern seaboard. I'm just sayin'.

/making popcorn
//will share


*Applause.* Same here. I believe that allowing the populace to arm itself and defend itself is a great idea, leaving the police to handle matters of law or incidents where things get out of hand, and the military to protect citizens from outside threats. However, one shouldn't go to extremes on either side. I'm a firm believer in that if you aren't willing to defend/fight for something, it's not worth anything, but there are limits to everything. Sometimes it is best to just sit on your hands and do nothing, too. *Shrug.* I dunno, I'm only on my 3rd cup of tea, and I'm somehow a liberal and a moderate at the same time, so I have no idea if I make any sense. :D

/ooh, popcorn!
//will bring beer when I get off of work
 
2008-08-20 01:22:13 PM
junglegoddess: Hey, it would probably work out for you.

Me?

Let's just say I'm little. I'm not likely to be able to hurt anyone significantly bigger than myself.

Backing off would most definitely be the better choice for me.

No one likes criminals getting away with anything. But for some of us, it's not a choice. We just have to have faith that either the police get them, or karma does.


I'm not that big of a guy but I will bet money that when you have a gun barrel in your face or your family is in mortal danger you will find all kinds of strength. Did you know most rapists promise the women they won't hurt them? They don't tell you they are going to rape you, they do it because they think you are weak.
 
2008-08-20 01:24:31 PM
Too bad she didn't just shoot the dirtbag dead and rid the planet of another criminal leech.
 
2008-08-20 01:26:00 PM
junglegoddess: That's a good way to get killed.

Good, bad...he's the guy with the gun.


agreed. do what you feel is right by all means, but you need to make sure you've got your priorities straight. especially in life-or-death scenarios. do you really think it's right to fight over whatever amount is in the till when it could easily end with 1. you're dead, 2. your husband/children have no wife/mother?

i dunno about her, but i value my life at something a bit above a couple hundred $.
 
2008-08-20 01:26:56 PM
Tat'dGreaser: junglegoddess: Hey, it would probably work out for you.

Me?

Let's just say I'm little. I'm not likely to be able to hurt anyone significantly bigger than myself.

Backing off would most definitely be the better choice for me.

No one likes criminals getting away with anything. But for some of us, it's not a choice. We just have to have faith that either the police get them, or karma does.

I'm not that big of a guy but I will bet money that when you have a gun barrel in your face or your family is in mortal danger you will find all kinds of strength. Did you know most rapists promise the women they won't hurt them? They don't tell you they are going to rape you, they do it because they think you are weak.


And if you scrolled up, you'll see where I said I'd fight if it was something along those lines.

Robbing a convenience store? Forget it. I'm handing over the money.

If the robber then decides he wants something else, then yes, all bets are off.
 
2008-08-20 01:27:48 PM
Tat'dGreaser: junglegoddess: Hostile much?

I choose not to be a victim when my life -- or my loved ones -- are in danger. Money isn't worth dying over.

Yes.

These threads just tick me off, I can't understand this mentality people have. Things have happened in my life that have made me lose sleep and I vow to never let them happen again. Makes me sad to hear people advocating being a victim and letting people continue to do things without the fear of reprecussions.



There's a Japanese phrase that loosely translates as "one cannot sleep comfortably after swallowing frogs all day" that speaks to that, Tat. Sometimes you DO have to stand up for what is right and honorable, regardless of the personal risk involved.

Unfortunately, the sleeping frogs quote was written in a day when violations of honor were settled with the clashing of swords at sunrise, not today's reality of teenaged shiatheads with their pants hanging down to show off their underwear, blasting gangsta' rap out of their Escalades loud enough to loosen lug nuts, who "whip out a gatt and bus' a cap" to protect whatever street cred they think they have without any thought of the consequences.

/fortunately, most of them can't shoot straight
//get off my lawn
 
2008-08-20 01:29:28 PM
ldasil: junglegoddess: That's a good way to get killed.

Good, bad...he's the guy with the gun.

Exactly. A happy ending does not negate a stupid act.


I understand your criticism of how she handled herself, but at a certain point anger takes over any rational thought of self-preservation. I highly doubt she cared enough to fight over whatever paltry sum was in her cash register; the fight was over principle, namely "how dare this POS think he can attack me & get away with it!"

I was faced with a similar situation years ago, and no, I did not start fighting back until some damage was already done. (Even then, I only got in one good kick before hightailing it out of there - I'm not exactly Chuck Norris.) To this day, I wished I'd fought back sooner. Instead of directing the anger at myself for not fighting back enough, I could have channeled the anger to where it belonged: toward the asshat perp.

/clerk probably thought he would shoot her anyway
 
2008-08-20 01:29:53 PM
junglegoddess: That's a good way to get killed.

Good, bad...he's the guy with the gun.


This. She went for the gun and failed to get it, which means if that robber had been even remotely serious, she'd be dead now. Is the $200 or whatever in the register really worth getting your head blown off?

Also, the tone of this story is absolutely irresponsible. They're casting her as some kind of a hero instead of a reckless moron with no concept of consequences. If I were her husband, I wouldn't be joking with reporters, I'd be screaming at her.
 
2008-08-20 01:32:30 PM
junglegoddess: And if you scrolled up, you'll see where I said I'd fight if it was something along those lines.

Robbing a convenience store? Forget it. I'm handing over the money.

If the robber then decides he wants something else, then yes, all bets are off.


My point is you do not know what this person is going to do. The majority of the time they are not going to tell you. What if you worked at this store, the guy robs you and realizes you will not fight back so he comes back for more? You give someone like that an inch they will take several f*cking miles.

Timmy the Tumor: /fortunately, most of them can't shoot straight
//get off my lawn


I think she saw weakness and decided not to take it laying down.
 
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