bubbaprog: JDAT: Really? were they not floating on a boat on top of water?
Were they not propelled by the wind? Were they paddling or using a motor?

Just keeping the boat floating requires a great deal of physical exertion, and even then the world's greatest yachtsmen succumb to the rough waters. Look at the 49er medal race -- all nine boats capsized at least once. You don't just unfurl a sail and lay back -- you're in constant movement, lifting hundreds of pounds at a time, using your body to balance out the weight of the boat. You're navigating a trapeze system that leaves you swinging off the side of the boat, attached only to the top of the mast...

you know what, you're so clueless I'm not even going to waste any more of my time.

World's greatest yachtsman? Is that like world's greatest bowlers? Or world's greatest dart throwers? I'm not saying it can't be dangerous. But just because you can be in an Oh Sh-- situation still does not mean it is a sport.

akugyaku: Sailing and Rowing are easily the gayest events.

Really?

JDAT: bubbaprog: You might want to go to the eye doctor if you watched Olympic sailing and thought you were watching "floating on top of water being propelled by the wind."

Really? were they not floating on a boat on top of water?
Were they not propelled by the wind? Were they paddling or using a motor?

Not just floating, but using lots of strenght and balance to keep the boat and sail on an appropriate manner to move at the fastest speed possible.

Second Try: Not just floating, but using lots of strenght and balance to keep the boat and sail on an appropriate manner to move at the fastest speed possible.

I think the wind may have had something to do with their movement.

JDAT: bubbaprog: JDAT: Really? were they not floating on a boat on top of water?
Were they not propelled by the wind? Were they paddling or using a motor?

Just keeping the boat floating requires a great deal of physical exertion, and even then the world's greatest yachtsmen succumb to the rough waters. Look at the 49er medal race -- all nine boats capsized at least once. You don't just unfurl a sail and lay back -- you're in constant movement, lifting hundreds of pounds at a time, using your body to balance out the weight of the boat. You're navigating a trapeze system that leaves you swinging off the side of the boat, attached only to the top of the mast...

you know what, you're so clueless I'm not even going to waste any more of my time.

World's greatest yachtsman? Is that like world's greatest bowlers? Or world's greatest dart throwers? I'm not saying it can't be dangerous. But just because you can be in an Oh Sh-- situation still does not mean it is a sport.

If it is physical, governed by a set of rules and engaged in competitively, it's a sport. And sailing is a popular one at that. Even more than bowling and dart throwing, both which I also enjoy watching.

JDAT: Second Try: Not just floating, but using lots of strenght and balance to keep the boat and sail on an appropriate manner to move at the fastest speed possible.

I think the wind may have had something to do with their movement.

The wind and the position of the boat and sail, which are balanced by strengh and skill by the sailor.

Second Try: If it is physical, governed by a set of rules and engaged in competitively,

Let me finish the definition for you...

to activities where the physical capabilities of the competitor are the sole or primary determiner of the outcome.

I believe the boats make the difference here.

JDAT:
World's greatest yachtsman? Is that like world's greatest bowlers? Or world's greatest dart throwers? I'm not saying it can't be dangerous. But just because you can be in an Oh Sh-- situation still does not mean it is a sport.

Well, then screw Olympic Equestrian events. The horse does all the work anyways. You can always tell the people who have obviously never even been out on a sailboat.

*spoiler*
some of them don't even have motors
*end spoiler*

Here is a quote for you:

"The boats are going to be very big, very radical, and very controversial. The contest will not be a sailboat race. It will be a design lottery in which the sailors will have little or nothing to do with the outcome."

In other words, the sailors are not the primary determining factor of the race.

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By the way, a very new sport to the Olympics that I'm looking forward to watching some of.

Open water swimming.

It's like a regular swimming race only full contact, and much longer.

JDAT

9,9/10

subby would drown in two minutes.

"In other words, the sailors are not the primary determining factor of the race."

way to selectively and inaccurately pull a quote out of context and for the full on fail.

that quote specifically refers to single america's cup competition in which a monohull and a catamaran sailed against one another. that was a design mismatch and only happened cause the challenger pulled a dirty trick to try and force a race when no one was expecting it, there for setting up their brand new boat against what they expected to be the old boat. the cup holder fought back with radical design that was going inherently faster.
olympic sailing is a One-design or development class. all the sailors use one type of boat made to a standard (usually by the same manufactorer in the same plant) and therefore it's the sailor's physical and tactical abilities that make the difference not the boat.

Taz

cnhn: "In other words, the sailors are not the primary determining factor of the race."

way to selectively and inaccurately pull a quote out of context and for the full on fail.

that quote specifically refers to single america's cup competition in which a monohull and a catamaran sailed against one another. that was a design mismatch and only happened cause the challenger pulled a dirty trick to try and force a race when no one was expecting it, there for setting up their brand new boat against what they expected to be the old boat. the cup holder fought back with radical design that was going inherently faster.
olympic sailing is a One-design or development class. all the sailors use one type of boat made to a standard (usually by the same manufactorer in the same plant) and therefore it's the sailor's physical and tactical abilities that make the difference not the boat.

Taz

Yeah, I may have cheated a bit. But you saw my scores, in the end, I got the win. That's what the Olympics are all about no?

To be honest, I don't really know anything about sailing. But just the few explanations here are enough for me not to question the athleticism of this event.

Approves.

Approves

JDAT: Yeah, I may have cheated a bit. But you saw my scores, in the end, I got the win. That's what the Olympics are all about no?

9,9/10 10/10

Sailing is boring....unless there's wind.


/then it's a blast!

JDAT: Second Try: JDAT: bubbaprog: Anyone questioning sailing as a sport has never watched it.

The physical demands are ridiculous. You have to be a top-level athlete to keep these things afloat, let alone manage the tactics and strategies to win races. Go look up the video of the 49er medal race and tell me those guys aren't athletes, jesus.

I've watched it and I can tell you it is not a sport. Swimming is a sport, floating on top of water being propelled by the wind is not a sport. It is a pleasant way to pass an afternoon with family/friends.

It is easy to see you never entered a competition.

Actually I have. I have also played golf competively along with basketball. Of the 3 I would only say that basketball was a sport.

Really? Where did you sail? I would like to know if I whooped your smug little behind in MCSA competition. I seriously doubt you really raced, otherwise you would have a more believable response.

/Lasers at Marquette!!!!

JDAT: Second Try: If it is physical, governed by a set of rules and engaged in competitively,

Let me finish the definition for you...

to activities where the physical capabilities of the competitor are the sole or primary determiner of the outcome.

I believe the boats make the difference here.

Ooh, your lack of knowledge is showing. Lasers are a popular class for races precisely because they are identical, leaving only the physical prowess and skill of the sailor to determine who wins.