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(NJ.com)   Reason No. 34,231 our schools are failing: Teachers need to take a course in how to use Google   (nj.com) divider line 47
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2008-08-19 10:14:12 AM
And here's reason #34232 (new window)...they feed the kids pigslop

/Italian dunkers indeed
 
2008-08-19 10:24:52 AM
Step 1: Type words into little rectangular box
Step 2: Hit Enter
Step 3: Profit
 
2008-08-19 10:27:49 AM
umm... They aren't teaching them how to type in a phrase into the search bar and click 'I'm feeling lucky', now are they, submitter?

Did you actually read the article before making up that headline?

Tons of professors are what I refer to as educated idiots when it comes to technology. They don't have the background or the experience to make good decisions regarding the implementation of technology based systems for multiple users. That doesn't mean they are bad teachers, though.

To me, most of the problems in the education system are attributable to the following:

1. Too many administrators, not enough teachers.
2. Parents expecting schools to do everything to teach their children.
3. Parents believing their precious snowflake can do no wrong.
4. No ability by schools to discipline children without getting sued by money hungry parents whose main skill as a parent consisted of their inability to correctly use birth control.

/Works in higher education.
 
2008-08-19 10:29:45 AM
Is our teachers learning?TM
 
2008-08-19 12:27:18 PM
Any teacher that "opens their internets to use the google" should not be let near a computer. No training allowed except how to stay away from the magic box.
 
2008-08-19 12:59:53 PM
I suggest that we rectify the problem by electing a president who has extensive experience with Google.

punchup.files.wordpress.com
 
2008-08-19 01:00:46 PM
Anything at all that increases the usage of technology across the populace should be encouraged and funded.

Then, we'll have a pool of employees who will be ready to come work where I'm at when all the old morans die off, and people will actually be able to open and read my e-mails. I work with people who will not read anything unless it's been printed out for them. I hate them so.

Oh, and you're an illiterate douchebag, submitter.
 
2008-08-19 01:07:21 PM
Cagey B: Oh, and you're an illiterate douchebag, submitter.

Go gargle with razorblades.
 
2008-08-19 01:08:52 PM
Freakpower: Step 1: Type words into little rectangular box
Step 2: Hit Enter
Step 3: Profit


Step 1a: Write story about teacher's learning about Google.
Step 2a: Take one page story, break it into two pages.
Step 3a: Profit!
 
2008-08-19 01:11:32 PM
i171.photobucket.com

erica hartman?
 
2008-08-19 01:17:46 PM
I love it when people complain about headlines, as if this one weren't selected by someone else who is working behind the scenes. Goofy/incorrect/flame-worthy headlines are intentionally chosen to increase click-throughs, comments, and page traffic. How have people not picked up on this yet? It's not like the guy who submitted this article was the one who magically made it appear on the Geek page. It has to go through at least one other person who is completely cognizant of what the submitter's intent was with his headline.
 
2008-08-19 01:21:28 PM
labman: umm... They aren't teaching them how to type in a phrase into the search bar and click 'I'm feeling lucky', now are they, submitter?

Did you actually read the article before making up that headline?

Tons of professors are what I refer to as educated idiots when it comes to technology. They don't have the background or the experience to make good decisions regarding the implementation of technology based systems for multiple users. That doesn't mean they are bad teachers, though.

To me, most of the problems in the education system are attributable to the following:

1. Too many administrators, not enough teachers.
2. Parents expecting schools to do everything to teach their children.
3. Parents believing their precious snowflake can do no wrong.
4. No ability by schools to discipline children without getting sued by money hungry parents whose main skill as a parent consisted of their inability to correctly use birth control.

/Works in higher education.


this.
 
2008-08-19 01:22:30 PM
Cagey B: Anything at all that increases the usage of technology across the populace should be encouraged and funded.

Then, we'll have a pool of employees who will be ready to come work where I'm at when all the old morans die off, and people will actually be able to open and read my e-mails. I work with people who will not read anything unless it's been printed out for them. I hate them so.

Oh, and you're an illiterate douchebag, submitter.


i never understood those people who refuse to read e-mail that isn't printed out.
 
2008-08-19 01:26:07 PM
Heamer: I love it when people complain about headlines, as if this one weren't selected by someone else who is working behind the scenes. Goofy/incorrect/flame-worthy headlines are intentionally chosen to increase click-throughs, comments, and page traffic. How have people not picked up on this yet? It's not like the guy who submitted this article was the one who magically made it appear on the Geek page. It has to go through at least one other person who is completely cognizant of what the submitter's intent was with his headline.

Right. So the admins exploit the stupidity of the submitter. No problems there. Aforementioned submitter's inability to read what they submit is still fair game.
 
2008-08-19 01:35:46 PM
Cagey B: Right. So the admins exploit the stupidity of the submitter. No problems there. Aforementioned submitter's inability to read what they submit is still fair game.

This is a stupid argument, and I harbor no bad feelings toward you, but for the sake of getting my point across (OMG INTERNETS ARE SERIOUS BUSINESS): sometimes people just lie in a headline, or embellish, or state something that they know to be patently false that stands in stark contrast to what is actually contained in the article. You know this. I know this. So then why rail on the submitter of an article without knowing his intention? It's silly. Just like this post.

And I only mention this because I've had a handful of headlines greenlit in which the headline was complete and utter bullsh*t that was completely and totally contrary to the article, subsequently resulting in "submitter" getting flamed into oblivion, simply because people don't have the foresight to realize that, on what is ostensibly a "humor" site (recognizing that sometimes Fark isn't exactly the paragon of funny), sometimes people make jokes. Are they stupid? Yes. Do they warrant insults from strangers to strangers? Only if you take this sh*t seriously.

Not that I'm defending stupid headlines; it's just that, having submitted a couple hundred of my own, they have a special place in my heart. Still, this isn't where I come to sympathize or empathize. Fark is where my brain has explosive diarrhea. So, if it helps you get through the day, feel free to lambast some "idiot" for an incorrect headline on an internet forum. Me? I'll just write unnecessarily long posts in response to the aforementioned callings-out.

/slow day at work
 
2008-08-19 01:37:12 PM
Cagey B: Right. So the admins exploit the stupidity of the submitter. No problems there. Aforementioned submitter's inability to read what they submit is still fair game.

So are nit-pickers who think this is a news site.
 
2008-08-19 01:38:33 PM
Eric Hartmann?

www.elknet.pl
 
2008-08-19 01:41:17 PM
Typing in a search into google isn't hard. Learning information literacy, learning how to find specific types of documents, learning how to use tools like the Google Scholar beta, sorting documents by relevance, all this sort of things - that's very worth learning. I know, I'm paying 12k a semester to do it.

/Library Science Grad Student
//I'm blinded by Library Science.
///Watch out for Bibliodons (new window).
 
2008-08-19 01:44:05 PM
Subby, I think you mean they have to take a course on how to use "The Google".
 
2008-08-19 01:45:23 PM
Heamer: Not that I'm defending stupid headlines; it's just that, having submitted a couple hundred of my own, they have a special place in my heart. Still, this isn't where I come to sympathize or empathize. Fark is where my brain has explosive diarrhea. So, if it helps you get through the day, feel free to lambast some "idiot" for an incorrect headline on an internet forum. Me? I'll just write unnecessarily long posts in response to the aforementioned callings-out.

Point taken. Sometimes I'm guilty of "INTERNETS: SERIOUS BUSINESS" syndrome. I guess I'm just dumping aggression from printing out yet another e-mail.
 
2008-08-19 01:47:39 PM
JerseyTim: Cagey B: Right. So the admins exploit the stupidity of the submitter. No problems there. Aforementioned submitter's inability to read what they submit is still fair game.

So are nit-pickers who think this is a news site.


Did the internet hurt your feelings, guy? It's okay. You have this nice warm glass of milk, wrap yourself in a blanket and tell me all about it.
 
2008-08-19 01:54:34 PM
Actually, if you read the article it does a hell of a lot more than that. Most people out there, let alone teachers, wouldn't know how to set up their own podcast or blog sites. Hell, a lot of people over the age of 50 probably wouldn't know right away how to post a comment on Fark.

Best part of the article:
"Google pays for the training. In exchange, the newly Google Certified teachers agree to take what they've learned back to their school districts and share it with fellow educators, including many struggling to keep up with their tech-whiz students."

Good for them.
 
2008-08-19 01:55:40 PM
My wife is a teacher and the district just made a nice tech push. The tech department helped them to learn how use this cool blog site so that they could keep students and parents up to date the classes and assignments. They started to promote using google docs and some other shared site to do assignments. They even talked about moderated message boards for other things. They even bought some software to help manage all this.

But the tech department forgot one key thing. They forgot that they did not want to unblock those sites from all the school's firewalls. So one can access the sites they promoted from any of the school's networked PCs.

Yeah, the intelligence, I feel it.
 
2008-08-19 02:00:07 PM
Cagey B: Did the internet hurt your feelings, guy? It's okay. You have this nice warm glass of milk, wrap yourself in a blanket and tell me all about it.


My feelings were not hurt, but you called me out. I don't believe in staying anonymous. You were the one who got all sandy.
 
2008-08-19 02:12:33 PM
JerseyTim: My feelings were not hurt, but you called me out. I don't believe in staying anonymous. You were the one who got all sandy.

Well, at least you've got the balls to out yourself. Respect for that.

Having seen you post before, I suppose I can believe that you wrote the headline as a joke, and not out of the excessive ignorance it would have taken to get that out of the article. So I apologize if I offended.

In general, though, I do know there are a lot of people who submit articles after just reading the headline. While this may not be a "news site", as you pointed out, it is indeed a Place for Snarking, much as Tony Roma's is a Place for Ribs. And I think people who try to make points based on articles that they haven't read leave themselves pretty open for it.

Anyways, I'll back off. You're a solid Farker.
 
2008-08-19 02:24:55 PM
in my old journalism program there was this course, mandatory mind you, called "Advanced Research Techniques". it was basically a "how to use google" class that lasted three hours a week. farking ridiculous.
 
2008-08-19 02:28:12 PM
I just finished up my credential program and one of the requirements was a computer competency class. I lost all hope for the future of teaching when one lady asked "Why should I use a computer? Isn't research still done in libraries?

She's reason number 34,331
 
2008-08-19 02:44:33 PM
A Sparta instructor learns how to do it all with a magic word: 'Google!'

www.markforrester.co.za

People, your slipping,
 
2008-08-19 02:45:21 PM
Nevermind Tr0mBoNe got it, sorry guys.
 
2008-08-19 03:04:43 PM
From TFA
All the teachers must go through an extensive application process that includes making a one-minute YouTube video about why they want to attend

If you can make a 1 minute video and upload it to youtube, YOU DO NOT NEED TO TO TAKE A COURSE ON GOOGLE FROM GOOGLE AT GOOGLE
 
2008-08-19 03:14:55 PM
This is called "Professional Development" in the education field, and I'm sure in that school district, teachers get paid to attend the training and workshops. I.e., they may know full well how to use Google. But heck, wouldn't you take 175 dollars to sit and listen on how to use Google?
 
2008-08-19 03:37:58 PM
absoluteparanoia: I suggest that we rectify the problem by electing a president who has extensive experience with Google.

Choice and competition, choice and competition, choice and competition.

I'm not a big McCain fan or anything, but after hearing that line from him the other night, he should start printing it on posters.
 
2008-08-19 03:38:55 PM
Cagey B: JerseyTim: My feelings were not hurt, but you called me out. I don't believe in staying anonymous. You were the one who got all sandy.

Well, at least you've got the balls to out yourself. Respect for that.

Having seen you post before, I suppose I can believe that you wrote the headline as a joke, and not out of the excessive ignorance it would have taken to get that out of the article. So I apologize if I offended.

In general, though, I do know there are a lot of people who submit articles after just reading the headline. While this may not be a "news site", as you pointed out, it is indeed a Place for Snarking, much as Tony Roma's is a Place for Ribs. And I think people who try to make points based on articles that they haven't read leave themselves pretty open for it.

Anyways, I'll back off. You're a solid Farker.


It's cool. I didn't mean to get too snappy myself.

I definitely wasn't trying to make any points about teachers or education or whatnot. My mother, sister and brother-in-law are all teachers. I thought Farkers would get a kick out of the whole "Google Certification" concept.
 
2008-08-19 04:14:20 PM
The Googleplex sounds magical.
 
2008-08-19 04:41:12 PM
Hey! I've got a novel idea! How about they, (I know this is crazy, but try to stay with me), try teaching them how to read, do arithmetic, etc. Just guessing, but I would bet most 9th graders can google better than their teachers.
 
2008-08-19 05:54:34 PM
Google pays for the training, and it's about increasing the use of technology in the classroom. If I was a teacher in New Jersey, I would sure as hell want to spend a couple expense paid weeks in California. And you get to learn something - using Google as a search engine has nothing to do with it - is a bonus.

Fail, Subby.
 
2008-08-19 06:20:45 PM
Hey, Jersey Tim, CageyB, why don't you get a room funboys!


/I keed, I keed
 
2008-08-19 06:26:53 PM
PerpetualMotion: Just guessing, but I would bet most 9th graders can google better than their teachers.

But I'll bet they wouldn't know a credible site from a non-credible site. As long as it was slickly done, a 9th grader wouldn't pick up on whether a site was credible. (Granted, a lot of adults would fail this test, too.)
 
2008-08-19 07:59:50 PM
labman:
To me, most of the problems in the education system are attributable to the following:

1. Too many administrators, not enough teachers.
2. Parents expecting schools to do everything to teach their children.
3. Parents believing their precious snowflake can do no wrong.
4. No ability by schools to discipline children without getting sued by money hungry parents whose main skill as a parent consisted of their inability to correctly use birth control.

/Works in higher education.


Excellent post, save for one omission:
5. The inability or unwillingness of administration to say "no" to frivolous wastes of taxpayer money by members of the faculty and support staff.

/I work in education too, and am constantly floored by the crap that gets approved.
//A "conference" in Las Vegas is nothing more than a vacation at the taxpayer's expense.
 
2008-08-19 09:18:50 PM
Welcome to New Jersey, where the weak and stupid are killed and eaten.
 
2008-08-19 09:46:18 PM
PerpetualMotion 2008-08-19 04:41:12 PM

Hey! I've got a novel idea! How about they, (I know this is crazy, but try to stay with me), try teaching them how to read, do arithmetic, etc. Just guessing, but I would bet most 9th graders can google better than their teachers.


THIS!
 
2008-08-19 10:54:18 PM
PainInTheASP: The inability or unwillingness of administration to say "no" to frivolous wastes of taxpayer money by members of the faculty and support staff.

Now see, the college I work at doesn't really let us spend big bucks on conferences. (Staff, that is. I don't know if the same is said of faculty.) I could do one a year, but not more than driving distance or a short plane ride.)
 
2008-08-20 09:48:34 AM
"It's fine for a car stereo but I wouldn't want it in my living room"

/obscure
 
2008-08-20 12:51:35 PM
labman:Now see, the college I work at doesn't really let us spend big bucks on conferences. (Staff, that is. I don't know if the same is said of faculty.) I could do one a year, but not more than driving distance or a short plane ride.)

(I feel) it is a huge problem at our school. I work for a mid-sized community college and we have been having budget problems since I got there, about five years ago. Every year there are layoffs and belts-tightening, and every year we have a huge group of faculty and staff attending conferences in Vegas, Houston,etc... I understand that their departments may have the money to do this, but within the context our yearly budget issues, it just seems wrong.

/But no one questions it.
 
2008-08-20 02:32:34 PM
Hugo Zorilla: Welcome to New Jersey, where the weak and stupid are killed and eaten.

Welcome to New Jersey, where the corrupt are elected and re-elected.
 
2008-08-21 05:33:06 AM
Reason #1 why our schools are failing:
Parents don't adequately prepare their children for school.
: No skills, no manners, no social habits, no ambition, no competitiveness in anything but sports. and most importantly, no involvement with their children at school.
 
2008-08-22 03:53:56 PM
I love when people get upset about headlines here...

...guess what...

....IT WAS A JOKE!!

This is Fark, lighten up.

/not subby.
 
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