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(Talking Points Memo)   John McCain, a former prisoner of war, outspending Barack Obama by hundreds of thousands of dollars in battleground states and can't pull away. Why can't John McCain, who spent 5 1/2 years in a POW camp, close the deal?   (tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 137
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2008-08-18 08:03:46 PM
Too big for Fark (sfw, but nsf eppile... epill... the kind of people who get seizures from looking at flashing images, like what Pikachu did to Japan that one time)
 
2008-08-18 08:30:31 PM
img356.imageshack.us
 
2008-08-18 08:33:32 PM
img1.picturewizard.com
 
2008-08-18 08:41:13 PM
Outstanding headline. +1!
 
2008-08-18 09:05:58 PM
Nicolle Wallace, a spokeswoman for Mr. McCain, said on Sunday night that Mr. McCain had not heard the broadcast of the event while in his motorcade and heard none of the questions.

"The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous," Ms. Wallace said(p).


POWs don't cheat! Except on their wives...
 
2008-08-18 09:21:35 PM
Lionel Mandrake: Nicolle Wallace, a spokeswoman for Mr. McCain, said on Sunday night that Mr. McCain had not heard the broadcast of the event while in his motorcade and heard none of the questions.

"The insinuation from the Obama campaign that John McCain, a former prisoner of war, cheated is outrageous," Ms. Wallace said(p).

POWs don't cheat! Except on their wives...


If someone had the free time to compile all the instances Mr. I Don't Like Talking About My War Service has exploited his war service this campaign...well, they'd be taking a long, long time.

/and if they included the donut wenches claiming McCain doesn't like talking about his war service?
//they might not be done by November
 
2008-08-18 10:38:43 PM
Remember the Keating Five? That doesn't count because he was a POW.

Duh.
 
2008-08-18 10:39:09 PM
geocaching.the-whites.org
 
2008-08-18 11:00:34 PM
His time in Vietnam doesn't count becuase he was a POW.
 
2008-08-18 11:01:56 PM
Leave it to John McCain to turn being a POW into a farking punchline.

What a farking disgrace.
 
2008-08-18 11:03:03 PM
Shrugging Atlas: Leave it to John McCain to turn being a POW into a farking punchline.

What a farking disgrace.


It's exactly what Giuliani did to 9/11 and look what it got him.
 
2008-08-18 11:03:06 PM
Why can't John McCain, who spent 5 1/2 years in a POW camp, close the deal?

Because, barring an exceptional disaster by one of the candidates, more than 95% of the voters have already made up their minds. And, this being the democrats involved as the favorite, they nominated one of the toughest candidates possible to get elected in a race they should be winning going away.
 
2008-08-18 11:04:46 PM
Shrugging Atlas: Leave it to John McCain to turn being a POW into a farking punchline.

What a farking disgrace.


Well, his party turned purple hearts into a straw-hat wearing, multi-chinned joke as well. Then 9/11, so I guess why not being a POW.
 
2008-08-18 11:07:28 PM
Why can't John McCain, who spent 5 1/2 years in a POW camp, close the deal?

Because that has nothing to do with being president...
 
2008-08-18 11:07:55 PM
Peter von Nostrand: Shrugging Atlas: Leave it to John McCain to turn being a POW into a farking punchline.

What a farking disgrace.

Well, his party turned purple hearts into a straw-hat wearing, multi-chinned joke as well. Then 9/11, so I guess why not being a POW.


The republican party's biggest joke is what they've turned America into.

/also I've developed a theory they may all be secret communists
 
2008-08-18 11:08:07 PM
KVachon159: Why can't John McCain, who spent 5 1/2 years in a POW camp, close the deal?

Because that has nothing to do with being president...


That's one person who doesn't get it, lol.
 
2008-08-18 11:08:51 PM
KVachon159: Because that has nothing to do with being president...

How dare you attack John McCain's service to this country!
 
2008-08-18 11:08:55 PM
KVachon159: Why can't John McCain, who spent 5 1/2 years in a POW camp, close the deal?

Because that has nothing to do with being president...


img.fannation.com
 
2008-08-18 11:08:58 PM
KVachon159: Why can't John McCain, who spent 5 1/2 years in a POW camp, close the deal?

Because that has nothing to do with being president...


Then what does he and his campaign talk about it EVERY FARKING DAY?
 
2008-08-18 11:10:03 PM
I'm voting Republican NOT because McCain was a POW, but because Republicans just LOVE killing as many people as possible FOR PROFIT!

I'm ALL about maximizing the bottom line - and population reduction. :)

Seriously, voting Democrat is just plain bad business.
 
2008-08-18 11:11:18 PM
Because being a POW don't mean d*ck.

Or might mean you like d*ck. Depends on your circumstances.

/Gay McCain for Prez!!!
 
2008-08-18 11:11:47 PM
Falcc: The republican party's biggest joke is what they've turned America into.

The biggest joke is how they manage to make rational people completely screw up their priority list every 4-years by tugging on the emotional strings that are available during that time. Their party operates like a giant sociopath..
 
2008-08-18 11:13:55 PM
Shrugging Atlas: KVachon159: Why can't John McCain, who spent 5 1/2 years in a POW camp, close the deal?

Because that has nothing to do with being president...

Then what does he and his campaign talk about it EVERY FARKING DAY?


Because he's uncomfortable bringing up his military experience.
 
2008-08-18 11:14:00 PM
burndtdan

[POW]

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2008-08-18 11:14:14 PM
shanrick: img356.imageshack.us

That's downright amusing.
 
2008-08-18 11:14:49 PM
i3.photobucket.com
 
2008-08-18 11:15:09 PM
Shrugging Atlas: KVachon159: Why can't John McCain, who spent 5 1/2 years in a POW camp, close the deal?

Because that has nothing to do with being president...

Then what does he and his campaign talk about it EVERY FARKING DAY?


As if John McCain would ever DREAM of exploiting his POW status! You are SCUM, man!

paxarcana.files.wordpress.com
 
2008-08-18 11:15:47 PM
J3re: Because being a POW don't mean d*ck.

But being an internet tough guy will bring the world to your feet, right?
 
2008-08-18 11:17:31 PM
As to the actual topic: well, John McCain has pulled to within 15 votes of Obama in the electoral college predictions, thanks in large part to gains in battleground states. So it seems this outspending has been doing its job because the national polls (popular vote) has held pretty steady over the past week or so as McCain pulled ahead in the battleground states.

The Obama campaign better be paying attention to these states and not focus too much on the upcoming convention, because they need to nip this trend in the bud NOW.

If I were the Obama campaign, I'd being hitting McCain in these battleground states in the west (and Indiana and Virginia) every bit as hard as he's been trying to hit Obama in his ads. The time to play nicey-nice is over. McCain has made that abundantly clear.
 
2008-08-18 11:18:02 PM
It's sad that McCain has turned being a POW into a punchline. My dad's a Vietnam vet and so the thought of making jokes about POW's doesn't sit well with me, and yet, that's what this election has been reduced to.

911 POW surge 911 POW surge 911 POW surge
 
2008-08-18 11:18:50 PM
i3.photobucket.com
 
2008-08-18 11:19:10 PM
Mentat: It's sad that McCain has turned being a POW into a punchline. My dad's a Vietnam vet and so the thought of making jokes about POW's doesn't sit well with me, and yet, that's what this election has been reduced to.

911 POW surge 911 POW surge 911 POW surge


Numerical donkey-punching is very Republican.
 
2008-08-18 11:19:28 PM
Neurochemist: Falcc: The republican party's biggest joke is what they've turned America into.

The biggest joke is how they manage to make rational people completely screw up their priority list every 4-years by tugging on the emotional strings that are available during that time. Their party operates like a giant sociopath..


I disagree.

The farking retard who votes against his/her own interests is the sociopath.
 
2008-08-18 11:19:45 PM
If Abortion > Solvency of the United States of America
If Gay Marriage > Stable energy prices
If A continuation of 8-years of demonstrated failure > unknown
Then your farking our country up if you vote
Else DIAF
 
2008-08-18 11:20:28 PM
the biggest redneck here: J3re: Because being a POW don't mean d*ck.

But being an internet tough guy will bring the world to your feet, right?


i21.photobucket.com
 
2008-08-18 11:20:31 PM
i14.photobucket.com
 
2008-08-18 11:21:09 PM
robsul82: Shrugging Atlas: KVachon159: Why can't John McCain, who spent 5 1/2 years in a POW camp, close the deal?

Because that has nothing to do with being president...

Then what does he and his campaign talk about it EVERY FARKING DAY?

As if John McCain would ever DREAM of exploiting his POW status! You are SCUM, man!


God damn you Walter! You farkin' asshole! Everything's a farkin' travesty with you, man! And what was all that shiat about Vietnam? What the FARK, has anything got to do with Vietnam? What the fark are you talking about?
 
2008-08-18 11:21:12 PM
Prospero424: As to the actual topic: well, John McCain has pulled to within 15 votes of Obama in the electoral college predictions, thanks in large part to gains in battleground states. So it seems this outspending has been doing its job because the national polls (popular vote) has held pretty steady over the past week or so as McCain pulled ahead in the battleground states.

You know what he spent to get within 15 EVs? More than he had on hand. There's no way he can keep that up. He has $21m on hand INCLUDING the $27m he got in July. Compare that with Barack's $68m on hand including $51m that he got in July. Barack's just letting McCain spend all of his money before the convention trying to get even with him. Then he'll make McCain spend even more after the convention while Barack pulls away. It's a beautiful strategy, one he worked quite well against Hillary in the primaries (see: PA)
 
2008-08-18 11:21:12 PM
McCain has definitely been outspending Obama in terms of Olympics commercials, but I'm in a Republican state. Is it any different in the battleground states?
 
2008-08-18 11:22:08 PM
John McCain was a POW?

I hadn't heard that before.

And what's this about Rudy and 9/11?
 
2008-08-18 11:23:54 PM
Joementum: John McCain was a POW?

I hadn't heard that before.

And what's this about Rudy and 9/11?


You should look a few threads down. Apparently John Edward's father worked in a mill.

/learn somethin' new every day, I guess
 
2008-08-18 11:24:25 PM
And by that I mean he needs to hit McCain hard in his national ads, not just his state-targeted ads.

He needs to get the operative criticisms onto the major political shows on the news networks; get them discussed and impressed upon the minds of voting Americans.

McCain and the Republicans have had a relatively easy time getting their talking points against Obama in the news. Hell, all Limbaugh needs to do is sneeze and the news shows pick up his anti-Obama talking points, whether there's actually substance to them or not (Michelle Obama "whitey" tapes, for instance).

The Obama campaign needs to do everything they can to exert that same kind of control over the campaign narrative in the national media.
 
2008-08-18 11:24:33 PM
I ran three planes into the ground on my own and had another shot out from under me.

EXPERIENCE YOU CAN COUNT ON!

/ sort of like GWB's business experience.
 
2008-08-18 11:25:58 PM
Prospero424: As to the actual topic: well, John McCain has pulled to within 15 votes of Obama in the electoral college predictions, thanks in large part to gains in battleground states. So it seems this outspending has been doing its job because the national polls (popular vote) has held pretty steady over the past week or so as McCain pulled ahead in the battleground states.

The Obama campaign better be paying attention to these states and not focus too much on the upcoming convention, because they need to nip this trend in the bud NOW.

If I were the Obama campaign, I'd being hitting McCain in these battleground states in the west (and Indiana and Virginia) every bit as hard as he's been trying to hit Obama in his ads. The time to play nicey-nice is over. McCain has made that abundantly clear.


Obama has a plan and he plans on sticking to it, regardless of the polls. McCain has to spend all of his money before the convention, because once he is nominated, he is limited to the 80 million dollars. Obama is banking money right now -- thinking that in the beginning of September he is going to launch full blast, outspending McCain 3:1 during September, October and November.

Whether it is a wise strategy or not.. We shall see...
 
2008-08-18 11:27:49 PM
Cyborg77: robsul82: Shrugging Atlas: KVachon159: Why can't John McCain, who spent 5 1/2 years in a POW camp, close the deal?

Because that has nothing to do with being president...

Then what does he and his campaign talk about it EVERY FARKING DAY?

As if John McCain would ever DREAM of exploiting his POW status! You are SCUM, man!

God damn you Walter! You farkin' asshole! Everything's a farkin' travesty with you, man! And what was all that shiat about Vietnam? What the FARK, has anything got to do with Vietnam? What the fark are you talking about?


Calmer than you are.
 
2008-08-18 11:28:01 PM
The Obama campaign will emerge from the DNC very much changed in intent and focus.

I just hope that through it all, the good Senator from Arizona remembers that "you gotta keep your sense of humor". A more likely prognastication is:

www.funnyphotos.net.au



Like a toothless, caged tiger.
 
2008-08-18 11:28:50 PM
Tell you what, yank Obama's slavish media coverage and actually force him to answer hard questions rather than just give flowery speeches and you'll see his popularity drop like a stone.
 
2008-08-18 11:29:06 PM
cameroncrazy1984: You know what he spent to get within 15 EVs? More than he had on hand. There's no way he can keep that up.

You're probably right.

cameroncrazy1984: Compare that with Barack's $68m on hand including $51m that he got in July. Barack's just letting McCain spend all of his money before the convention trying to get even with him. Then he'll make McCain spend even more after the convention while Barack pulls away. It's a beautiful strategy, one he worked quite well against Hillary in the primaries (see: PA)

I certainly hope you're right. It makes sense, but I just don't know.

Then again, the "ground game" is where the difference is made between the polls and the actual votes on election day, and Obama's ground game is MUCH better than McCain's in everywhere but Florida. So there's some hope right there, heh.
 
2008-08-18 11:30:18 PM
maxheck:
/ sort of like GWB's business experience.


Whatever, dude. The Rangers had some decent seasons.
 
2008-08-18 11:30:22 PM
randomjsa: Tell you what, yank Obama's slavish media coverage and actually force him to answer hard questions rather than just give flowery speeches and you'll see his popularity drop like a stone.

Yeah! Any day now!
 
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