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2008-08-16 02:50:32 AM
Wow, that is just a crushing story.
 
2008-08-16 02:54:33 AM
Bit'O'Gristle: Baron Krelve: Who's a hero in this story? If I saw 29 people lifting up a bus (whether or not I knew why) I'd probably run over and join them. How long would it take them, maybe a few seconds? It was good of them to help out, but that's 99% circumstance and 1% being a good samaritan.

The hero's are the men who stepped up to do what needed to be done in a terrible situation. You would not believe how many people would just drive by.



Or stand back and take pictures with their camera phones.
 
2008-08-16 02:54:42 AM
Then I read that she was a traffic cop, and I was glad she died.
 
2008-08-16 02:56:15 AM
So I'm guessing "Pop goes the weasel" is not gonna be this kids favorite song then.....
 
2008-08-16 02:58:51 AM
The kid was born by C-section at the hospital a few minutes before she died...

Um... I think the hospital doing the C-section just after a major accident like that is what killed her... not the accident itself.

panzerfaustbob, that was an absolutely tasteless comment. It sickens me that some part of me agrees.
 
2008-08-16 03:02:57 AM
Robopuppy Mistreatment
Am I the only one who thought it was a porno from the headline?

you are not alone. lol


/poor kid, major preemie birth there
 
2008-08-16 03:03:46 AM
www.mentomusic.com
 
2008-08-16 03:05:50 AM
panzerfaustbob: Then I read that she was a traffic cop, and I was glad she died.

Punch that ticket with the conductor when he walks by.
 
2008-08-16 03:07:06 AM
Deadhouseplants:
Oh lord, here come the South Park/Farmers market references. Downward spiral, here we come.


This happened in the Bronx
 
2008-08-16 03:07:44 AM
sounds hot
 
2008-08-16 03:08:58 AM
Scruffinator: Ace Attorney: Oh no you di'nt: That abortion didn't work out quite right.

dude, thats just wrong

There are times for humor, and that wasn't it

You must be new. Welcome to Fark.


Agreed.
Every time there is a serious touching/tragic story, a couple of a-holes on Fark make some unfunny snide comments, and then some sensitive types get all bent out of shape about it, then the thread explodes into a zillion comments and Drew gets lots more hits.
 
2008-08-16 03:10:57 AM
FTFA: "It is a terrible poignancy that Donnette's son's birthday will now coincide with the day his mother died. She gave her life in service to our city," the mayor said.

What the hell? Gave her life in service to the city? By. . . waiting long enough to be rushed to hospital so that her son could be delivered by caesarian?

Well, I'm sure the entire city can thank her for that. She should posthumously get the key to the city, as a reminder how every citizen is indebted to her noble sacrifice.

/ Good on those 30 men. Rock out.
 
2008-08-16 03:14:38 AM
starsrift: FTFA: "It is a terrible poignancy that Donnette's son's birthday will now coincide with the day his mother died. She gave her life in service to our city," the mayor said.

What the hell? Gave her life in service to the city? By. . . waiting long enough to be rushed to hospital so that her son could be delivered by caesarian?

Well, I'm sure the entire city can thank her for that. She should posthumously get the key to the city, as a reminder how every citizen is indebted to her noble sacrifice.

/ Good on those 30 men. Rock out.


Wow-- truly great timing. I came here to make the same cynical statement regarding that same quote...
 
2008-08-16 03:14:41 AM
Z1P2
The kid was born by C-section at the hospital a few minutes before she died...

Um... I think the hospital doing the C-section just after a major accident like that is what killed her... not the accident itself.


Maybe. .. but I figure they changed 'after she died' to 'before' .
"She lived just long enough for her baby to be delivered"
is a lot more poignant and less ghoulish thn
"the baby was extracted from the corpse"
 
2008-08-16 03:15:58 AM
Babaloo: Robopuppy Mistreatment
Am I the only one who thought it was a porno from the headline?

you are not alone. lol


/poor kid, major preemie birth there


I see I'm not the only one
 
2008-08-16 03:26:17 AM
Hellboy?

/dnrtfa
//doesn't need to cry tonight
 
2008-08-16 03:34:39 AM
Anybody find it weird it is exactly 30 men? Did they all stay around to be counted?
 
2008-08-16 03:37:56 AM
Z1P2
The kid was born by C-section at the hospital a few minutes before she died...
Um... I think the hospital doing the C-section just after a major accident like that is what killed her... not the accident itself.




Sure....because a severe crush trauma like this wouldnt do wide spread damage if it happened to her upper torso and head. Plus there is no way the legs being crushed and bones likely splintering would do anything like shred the major arteries there (femoral for example) causing extensive bleeding (meaning death in as little as 3min, possibly less).

Look, the likely scenario is more along the line of CPR and artificial respiration all the way to the hospital with the intent of trying to keep the child alive. The only major reasons they'd do a C-section like that is:

1. If the mother had no chance of survival.
2. If the child was in distress.
3. If the mother was in active labor but unable to deliver a child (such as being non-responsive).

A C-section isnt exactly something they do on a whim (especially with an accident victim). This type of thing is thought out on what is essentially a Cost-Benefit ratio. What are the current choices, the likely risks, and the likely benefit/loss due to those actions. Meaning they arent going to just throw a pregnant woman in shock with severe blood loss onto an operating table, unless there is a very good rational reason for it.
 
2008-08-16 03:38:40 AM
Ace Attorney
How about that Holocaust huh? I sure wouldn't want to take THAT shower. Hurr hurr hurr

I am offended by that remark- my grandfather died in a concentration camp.
He had too much peppermint schnapps and fell out of the guard tower.

But seriously, in regards to the 30 people who lifted the bus, that raises my opinion of people in general, and New Yorkers in particular.
 
2008-08-16 03:43:00 AM
gund: Anybody find it weird it is exactly 30 men? Did they all stay around to be counted?

If you'd actually read TFA, you'd know that it says "about".
 
2008-08-16 03:58:44 AM
crak_rabbit: And knowing our courts system, those 30 men will all be responsible for child support.

On a serious note, very sad story indeed.


If these guys can support a freaking bus they can do anything.

/Hero tag never more appropriate.
//Excuse me now, there's something in my eye ...
 
2008-08-16 04:01:28 AM
Robopuppy Mistreatment: Lighten up. There's no need to throw him under the bus.

I just laughed uncontrollably for almost a minute. Thanks.
 
2008-08-16 04:03:55 AM
LegalizeThoughtCrime: Ace Attorney
How about that Holocaust huh? I sure wouldn't want to take THAT shower. Hurr hurr hurr

I am offended by that remark- my grandfather died in a concentration camp.
He had too much peppermint schnapps and fell out of the guard tower.

But seriously, in regards to the 30 people who lifted the bus, that raises my opinion of people in general, and New Yorkers in particular.


It was in the way and they were late for work.

//
 
2008-08-16 04:04:48 AM
Regardless of all the nose picking and nitpicking here on fark.com, its a very sad story. The kid's not lucky. If the kid was lucky s/he would still be kicking mom's bladder and keeping her up all night.
 
2008-08-16 04:09:56 AM
If traffic cop = meter maid than the IRONIC tag should make an appearance.


/Also, if traffic cop = meter maid then HERO tag applies to the driver.
 
2008-08-16 04:19:25 AM
Bit'O'Gristle: He didn't do it on purpose, but by his inaction to fix the brakes, he caused her death by negligence. And by his prior record, he sounds like an uncaring asshole. Shove the book up his ass.

He probably could have also tried to avoid killing someone instead of closing his eyes. I once saw a car driven into a store, apparently the driver lost his brakes and swerved to avoid killing people on a crosswalk. Then again that's why my father always taught me to brake slightly way before an intersection (or other stopping place) so even if my brakes fail I have time to go for the emergency brake (or otherwise react).
 
2008-08-16 04:20:30 AM
jayday
Wow, that is just a crushing story.

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2008-08-16 04:24:09 AM
goethe_helen_hunt: Regardless of all the nose picking and nitpicking here on fark.com, its a very sad story. The kid's not lucky. If the kid was lucky s/he would still be kicking mom's bladder and keeping her up all night.

Bladder?
 
2008-08-16 04:34:47 AM
Incredible. Poor kid but perhaps one day that child will do something great and we can thank those 30 or so men who saved him.
 
2008-08-16 04:36:52 AM
starsrift: FTFA: "It is a terrible poignancy that Donnette's son's birthday will now coincide with the day his mother died. She gave her life in service to our city," the mayor said.

What the hell? Gave her life in service to the city? By. . . waiting long enough to be rushed to hospital so that her son could be delivered by caesarian?

Well, I'm sure the entire city can thank her for that. She should posthumously get the key to the city, as a reminder how every citizen is indebted to her noble sacrifice.

/ Good on those 30 men. Rock out.


I think he was talking about her job as a traffic cop, but even then it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Sounds like she was going about civilian business at the time.
 
2008-08-16 04:44:46 AM
Hobo Jr.: Incredible. Poor kid but perhaps one day that child will do something great and we can thank those 30 or so men who saved him.

Or he'll grow up to be the next world-spanning despot and we'll have to rethink just how broad that road to hell really is.

/you say you're a glass-half-full kind of guy, I say "what glass?"
 
2008-08-16 04:45:45 AM
I would have helped but I had to be at the gym 26 minutes from then and traffic was a real biatch.
 
2008-08-16 04:46:49 AM
NYZooMan
It was in the way and they were late for work.

ah, that explains it then. well...good for them for being such devoted employees.

this could be made into a "Saving Private Ryan"- type movie.
 
2008-08-16 04:51:53 AM
smage: Or he'll grow up to be the next world-spanning despot and we'll have to rethink just how broad that road to hell really is.

You never know.
 
2008-08-16 05:07:31 AM
jlp222: Scruffinator: Ace Attorney: Oh no you di'nt: That abortion didn't work out quite right.

dude, thats just wrong

There are times for humor, and that wasn't it

You must be new. Welcome to Fark.


No, I have to agree with AceAttorney on this one. You're an asshat.


Agreed. Face it, not everybody is a goody-two shoes, especially when it comes to the internet. Next time, if a comment really bothers you, go have a drink and listen to your whale sounds CD. Because really, you can call me and everybody that happens to read your post an asshat, it wont change a single. damn. thing.

/goodnight
 
2008-08-16 05:48:48 AM
starsrift: FTFA: "It is a terrible poignancy that Donnette's son's birthday will now coincide with the day his mother died. She gave her life in service to our city," the mayor said.

What the hell? Gave her life in service to the city? By. . . waiting long enough to be rushed to hospital so that her son could be delivered by caesarian?


I think you're more supposed to read that as she "gave her time while alive in service to the city." She obviously didn't die to save New York, but she made it a nicer place while she was alive.

It could also be a verbal slip-up. "Spent her life" or "gave her all", perhaps.
 
2008-08-16 07:44:26 AM
oh no you di'n't

I LOL'd.
 
2008-08-16 08:48:28 AM
How is babby crushed?
 
2008-08-16 09:08:07 AM
Baron Krelve: Who's a hero in this story? If I saw 29 people lifting up a bus (whether or not I knew why) I'd probably run over and join them. How long would it take them, maybe a few seconds? It was good of them to help out, but that's 99% circumstance and 1% being a good samaritan.

Those with small and withered souls cannot tolerate the existence of anything that reminds them of their pathetic state. So they must exert every effort toward denigration and mockery, making it possible for them to pretend that everyone and everything else is just as bad as themselves.
 
2008-08-16 09:48:06 AM
zarnik:

Maybe. .. but I figure they changed 'after she died' to 'before' .
"She lived just long enough for her baby to be delivered"
is a lot more poignant and less ghoulish than
"the baby was extracted from the corpse"


Damn, now all I can think of is this:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2008-08-16 10:10:18 AM
I cringed at the story because of its content, but the modifier problem in the last sentence was just appallingly bad:
The woman, six months pregnant, was rushed to the hospital, where the baby was born by caesarian section a few minutes before she died.

This is a story about ... wait ... which one lived, again?
 
2008-08-16 10:12:05 AM
Reminds me of the story on fark about some bar patrons who ran outside and lifted a car to save someone.
 
2008-08-16 10:21:52 AM
72 years old driving a van...just think.
This woman gave her life so that many people didn't die later that day when the old codger plowed into the farmer's market.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few...or the one.
 
2008-08-16 10:52:21 AM
At least there's one less cop on the streets.

/aisle seat, please
 
2008-08-16 10:54:07 AM
So according to the mayor of New York, an off duty traffic cop who gets killed in a random traffic accident "gave her life in service to [their] city." Granted that this is a tragedy, but there is no way she "gave her life in service to [their] city." Saying that makes it sound like she purposely stepped in the path of the van to stop it from hitting someone else, which does not appear to be the case.

I'm all for honoring people who do heroic things. But you DIShonor those people when you elevate random tragic events to the level of someone throwing their body on top of a grenade to save others. Has officialdom learned nothing from the Pat Tillman debacle?
 
2008-08-16 11:06:55 AM
How is babby crushed?

no, mtoher is crushed. they need to do way reckess driver who crush pragnent mommys. I am truley sorry of babbys lots.
 
2008-08-16 11:11:14 AM
jockc: How is babby crushed?

no, mtoher is crushed. they need to do way reckess driver who crush pragnent mommys. I am truley sorry of babbys lots.


I went to Cute Overlaod (new window) and died a little inside.
 
2008-08-16 11:27:29 AM
I'd hit that.

But really, what a sad story. I hope the baby grows up happy and well raised.
 
2008-08-16 11:35:22 AM
FTFA: "It is a terrible poignancy that Donnette's son's birthday will now coincide with the day his mother died. She gave her life in service to our city," the mayor said.


Wasn't she off duty?
 
2008-08-16 11:52:43 AM
BallsackConundrum: goethe_helen_hunt: Regardless of all the nose picking and nitpicking here on fark.com, its a very sad story. The kid's not lucky. If the kid was lucky s/he would still be kicking mom's bladder and keeping her up all night.

Bladder?


Yes, you see, a woman's uterus is right next to the bladder, and when the uterus is full of an infant, it pushes on the bladder. The baby kicks, and occasionally will kick the bladder, making mom pee herself.

Also, how did she get pinned under a school bus? Last time I checked, there was a good 3 feet of clearance under those things. Unless she was under a wheel, in which case, wouldn't it be faster to just drive the bus off her?
 
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