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2008-08-11 10:34:30 PM
worlddan: Puke: I don't know, those WoW freaks are pretty nerder-rific.

I have a WoW character, night elf druid which is at like level 45 or something. There are people who play that game 24/7/365. That's the reason some people call it Warcrack. There are elements of the game that can be fun but the truth is that's it's difficult to be good at that game without putting massive amount of time into it, with lots of friends. In many ways, it's the Amway of the video game world.

Also, many of the people who play that game are nice, helpful people. If people interacted in real life they way they interacted in that, the world might actually be a better place.

/not a nerd.


You mean taking a six-foot flaming scimitar to your seven year olds head?

/Bitter WoW player
//Get ganked every time I turn around
 
2008-08-11 10:37:55 PM
Relatively Obscure

Love the picture. So true.
 
2008-08-11 10:44:43 PM
Slampig: How geeky is it if I found this thread while watching Star Trek The Next Generation on my other monitor?

Have you ever kissed a girl?
 
2008-08-11 10:45:18 PM
Holy crap I just watched the Horta episode on my TOS boxed set.

I'd probably play - not because I expect to be able to put in the time to be a high level player, nor because I particularly enjoy MMOs (I hate people), but because the teeny tiny bit of information I've gleened from the releases says there'll be lots of exploring. and I like exploring.
 
2008-08-11 10:46:39 PM
Befuddled: How long has this game been in development? I thought I remembered hearing about this game being in development about five years ago.

It was being developed by a different company. They went bankrupt after a massive failure called "Gods and Heroes" and the IP was purchased by Cryptic Studio's (the developers of City of Heroes/City of Villains) They've probably had the IP rights for about 6 months now. I think it's in better hands now.
 
2008-08-11 10:49:27 PM
Boritom: Slampig: How geeky is it if I found this thread while watching Star Trek The Next Generation on my other monitor?

Have you ever kissed a girl?


"Captain's Log, Stardate 1014.8:

Counter girl at McDonald's kind of left her hand in mine for a second as she returned my change, and I felt her fingers brush across mine as she pulled away.

It's official. I am now a man."
 
2008-08-11 10:50:31 PM
Ima Clingon! Be-boppa-boop!
 
2008-08-11 10:50:45 PM
Weaver95: I'd play the borg.

Trying the amp up that conservative cred, eh Weaver? :)

Seriously though, I hope it's good. I MUCH prefer the perpetual idea of being able to be a variety of things, not just a ship captain, that way a "group" would control 1 ship, and a guild would control a small fleet or one very large ship. However, I like space MMOs, and this ones my friends might actually play.

Cryptic knows what they are doing, but I think that may be a problem. MMOs need someone to kick them in the nuts with new ideas, not follow a formula. For now it looks kind of like they took the CoH engine, made trek themed attacks, removed the cool movement, and added ship combat. Star Trek shouldn't be about combat.

Perpetual's game sounded like early Star Wars Galaxies, a great idea for an MMO that not a huge number of people would play. Cryptic's seems more like a standard MMO with a trek theme. WoW with ships and phasors.

Hopefully it's at least Eve Online with phasers.
 
2008-08-11 10:55:55 PM
RemyDuron: Cryptic's seems more like a standard MMO with a trek theme. WoW with ships and phasors.

Hopefully it's at least Eve Online with phasers.


Hedging your bets?
 
2008-08-11 10:56:06 PM
and allows them to indulge in ship-to-ship combat

One thing that irked me about Star Trek about ship to ship combat; why aren't there any missiles seen in combat? In DS9, the Dominion would use their ships to ram the Federation, destroying both, so why wouldn't one side develop specialized "ships", unmanned robots programmed to ram the enemy ships? Just be small, fast, shielded, and very numerious. The Klingons and Romulans could even use cloaked missiles.
 
2008-08-11 10:59:05 PM
So...fairly geeky then? I should also mention that I'm currently organizing my pile of computer parts.
 
2008-08-11 10:59:25 PM
ptelg: You mean taking a six-foot flaming scimitar to your seven year olds head?

/Bitter WoW player
//Get ganked every time I turn around


It was your choice to play on a PvP server, probably with the intent of ganking other players when you got high enough.
There was always PvE to level up. You still have battlegrounds and you can still attack enemy towns.
Don't be bitter for the choice you made and could have easily rectified.


Anyway I'd be a Klingon just.. cause.. yeah.. (We'll see what's available when the beta is out)
 
2008-08-11 11:02:20 PM
Befuddled: and allows them to indulge in ship-to-ship combat

One thing that irked me about Star Trek about ship to ship combat; why aren't there any missiles seen in combat? In DS9, the Dominion would use their ships to ram the Federation, destroying both, so why wouldn't one side develop specialized "ships", unmanned robots programmed to ram the enemy ships? Just be small, fast, shielded, and very numerious. The Klingons and Romulans could even use cloaked missiles.



So, uhm.. what's the difference between a Star Trek space torpedo thing and what would qualify as a "missile?"
 
2008-08-11 11:06:34 PM
Just can't what to hear the whining about 'prime directive exploits'
 
2008-08-11 11:06:57 PM
Random note.. I was looking on their official website and I saw a Sweepstakes thing. The prize is a copy of the game and a "lifetime subscription" which they say is:

Total estimated retail value: $550.00 (US)

...Either subscription fees are very cheap, or they don't expect us to live long. (and prosper *rimshot*)
 
2008-08-11 11:08:33 PM
XxDavidZullenxX: Random note.. I was looking on their official website and I saw a Sweepstakes thing. The prize is a copy of the game and a "lifetime subscription" which they say is:

Total estimated retail value: $550.00 (US)

...Either subscription fees are very cheap, or they don't expect us to live long. (and prosper *rimshot*)


Maybe they mean the lifetime if the game, since most games' lives are fairly short.
 
2008-08-11 11:15:25 PM
Relatively Obscure: RemyDuron: Cryptic's seems more like a standard MMO with a trek theme. WoW with ships and phasors.

Hopefully it's at least Eve Online with phasers.

Hedging your bets?


No, just a little, uh, farked up. It's phasers isn't it? That's how I meant to spell it and usually spell it.
 
2008-08-11 11:15:30 PM
and my usename? It can be only one of course...


KHHHHHAAAANNNNN!!!!
 
2008-08-11 11:17:30 PM
Befuddled: and allows them to indulge in ship-to-ship combat

One thing that irked me about Star Trek about ship to ship combat; why aren't there any missiles seen in combat? In DS9, the Dominion would use their ships to ram the Federation, destroying both, so why wouldn't one side develop specialized "ships", unmanned robots programmed to ram the enemy ships? Just be small, fast, shielded, and very numerious. The Klingons and Romulans could even use cloaked missiles.


Uh, they do that IIRC. Photon torpedoes are missiles, and I think they even develop cloaked ones at one point.
 
2008-08-11 11:18:23 PM
Weaver95: Puke: I don't know, those WoW freaks are pretty nerder-rific.

Look, just because YOU can't raid Black Temple or understand the MP5/spirit calculation chart doesn't mean that the rest of us are nerds!

um...or something....


BRAAAAAVO!
 
2008-08-11 11:20:00 PM
RemyDuron: No, just a little, uh, farked up. It's phasers isn't it? That's how I meant to spell it and usually spell it.

Heh, fair enough--and yeah. Phaser.

Unless maybe you're that whoop shoopin' guy.
 
2008-08-11 11:20:26 PM
Will "Star Trek Online" be the geekiest game of all time?

Not without a native client for Linux.
 
2008-08-11 11:21:29 PM
IStateTheObvious: Not without a native client for Linux.

They'd be fools not to.
 
2008-08-11 11:27:51 PM
From reading their official website, they only mention Federation and Klingons as playable. That sorta limits one's options. No Romulans or Gorn?
 
2008-08-11 11:29:14 PM
kpottruff: and my usename? It can be only one of course...


KHHHHHAAAANNNNN!!!!


Yeah, like that one will never be taken.

'Sides, I'd rather go with..

trekmovie.com

"Guy" Fleegman
 
2008-08-11 11:29:33 PM
Really? None of you other "attention-to-detail" geeks noticed the following:
"The lead character and spaceship are customisable, and you can choose from various familiar species - Vulcans, Klingons and Endorians among the launch offerings."

Endorians? Not Andorians? This ain't the forest moon of Endor we're talking about, here. Tis a mistake most foul! We're talking about mistaking Warm Fuzzies for Blue Meanies!
 
2008-08-11 11:29:37 PM
Befuddled: From reading their official website, they only mention Federation and Klingons as playable. That sorta limits one's options. No Romulans or Gorn?

From what I've read, there are a few default races (of which they've only revealed humans and klingons) but there is a species creator you can use to make your own race. Probably using a variation on the awesome City of Heroes character creator.
 
2008-08-11 11:31:29 PM
Every star trek game ever created sucked ass because the fan boys would buy it no matter what so there was no incentive to actually make a good game.
 
2008-08-11 11:31:46 PM
I doubt it will have anywhere near the technical and mathematic complexity of EvE that certain geeks adore, but it should go over well with the TV show geek crowd who prefer to argue about characters and episodes instead of the subtle art of blowing things up.
 
2008-08-11 11:32:21 PM
Failing_Junk: Every star trek game ever created sucked ass because the fan boys would buy it no matter what so there was no incentive to actually make a good game.

Uh, I think you're wrong. There have been some good Trek games and some crap ones, same as Star Wars.
 
2008-08-11 11:32:42 PM
Crocodile: Endorians? Not Andorians? This ain't the forest moon of Endor we're talking about, here.

www.justsouthpark.com

It doesn't make any sense.
 
2008-08-11 11:33:10 PM
I'll be a Reaver, thank you very much.

/I'll rape you all
//Eat your flesh
///And sew your skin into my clothing
//If you're very, very lucky, I'll do it in that order
 
2008-08-11 11:40:58 PM
ardekantur.com
Geekiest Game of All Time
 
2008-08-11 11:44:34 PM
I think we are avoiding the most important question...

Which captain is more likely to pull a Leeroy Jenkins?
 
2008-08-11 11:45:19 PM
whaledawg: But your captain does have a 'class', like Janeway was a scientist and Picard was a wine snob.

Funny, I would have guessed that Janeway's class would be "psychopath".
 
2008-08-11 11:47:29 PM
Champions Online looks interesting.
 
2008-08-11 11:50:27 PM
Does Warhammer Online have it beat? Or perhaps Sim City? Or Microsoft Flight Simulator? Which videogame is history's biggest digital dork?

Yeah! Which game is the biggest digital dork?
 
2008-08-11 11:53:43 PM
Yes.
 
2008-08-12 12:01:05 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

l33t crew assembled.
 
2008-08-12 12:13:04 AM
beer4breakfast: Geekiest Game of All Time

Dwarf Fortress beats it.
 
2008-08-12 12:21:27 AM
WoW was my first MMORPG, and it shall be my last.

/we were pretty geeky though
 
2008-08-12 12:33:12 AM
Bah. If you think that "Star Trek Online" is the geekiest game ever, you are likely to be eaten by a grue.
 
2008-08-12 12:43:15 AM
The original plan sounded like Starflight, the new one sounds like Star Control.
 
2008-08-12 12:44:07 AM
Will the admins be playing the part of Q Continuum?
 
2008-08-12 12:44:21 AM
Relatively Obscure: l33t crew assembled.

Is that Nixon on the far right?
 
2008-08-12 12:56:02 AM
All I want is the 'Nuclear Wessels'
 
2008-08-12 01:01:29 AM
You can play games on your computer?!?!?!

And I've just been using mine to view pr0n all this time. Dammit!

/I've wasted my life
//*Sob*
 
2008-08-12 01:01:30 AM
brantgoose

Hey, leave Ah My Goddess out of this! :(
 
2008-08-12 01:07:46 AM
Weaver95: I'd play the borg.

species 8472
 
2008-08-12 01:09:02 AM
huphollandhup: Will the admins be playing the part of Q Continuum?

That would actually be cool, especially if the admins each got to choose one player to harass repeatedly.
 
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