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(AP)   Olympic reporters complaining about the Great Firewall of China, just now realizing what type of government actually runs China these days   (hosted.ap.org) divider line 179
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2008-08-10 10:23:21 AM
and Murdoch handles their media needs too. just like here in the states.
 
2008-08-10 11:04:08 AM
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2008-08-10 11:05:13 AM
Oppression and exploitation are great for iPods but bad if you want to live free under an oppressive regime.

Reporters who are use to free speech and access to an unfiltered Internet are now learning the reality of the Chinese government.

As for Hobodeluxe, not quite the same sir. Not even close.
 
2008-08-10 11:07:06 AM
Denshuu: Your search - Tiananmen Square - did not match any documents.

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* Please report for internet re-education at monday.
 
2008-08-10 11:07:22 AM
Maybe now it will be possible to turn to CNN or BBC on the web or TV and not be subjected to a pro-China puff piece every 5 seconds, as has been the case for the last, oh, 8 years ago?

Everybody who lives outside of the UK/Europe or has stayed in a hotel in such a place and be subjected to the international editions of CNN and BBC knows what I'm talking about. 100% without exaggeration - Literally for the last 8 years or so you could turn to the international versions of those networks and be subjected to a puff piece or an advertisement for one at least every 15 minutes.

Of course, their argument would be that the churning out of such puff pieces is what allowed them to get any sort of journalistic access at all into China in the first place, but a) that's not how journalism should be done b) it's still highly annoying.
 
2008-08-10 11:08:15 AM
Wow! Journalists have figured out that the government of Communist China censors the internet. They don't want journalists to be able to look up incriminating information about Tianamen Square. I'm Shocked. SHOCKED! that the journalists have figured out anything! Journalism today consists of getting the faxes, blast e-mails and press releases various governmental and political sources decide to feed them and that's it. Real investigative journalism has become the perview of rags like the National Enquirer. For better or worse.
 
2008-08-10 11:08:42 AM
Denshuu: Your search - Tiananmen Square - did not match any documents.

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FTFY
 
2008-08-10 11:09:25 AM
Dang you sanktp
 
2008-08-10 11:09:55 AM
* Try more general keywords.

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2008-08-10 11:10:37 AM
Is porn banned in China?
 
2008-08-10 11:11:07 AM
The media should do like the dissidents in China, and learn how to use a proxy.
 
2008-08-10 11:11:12 AM
Hobodeluxe: and Murdoch handles their media needs too. just like here in the states.

You failed pretty hard for a Boobies there.
 
2008-08-10 11:12:21 AM
Is there a Falun Gong Olympic team or something? Why the fark do the journalists covering the Olympics need to look that up?
 
2008-08-10 11:12:48 AM
I am covering the Olympics and am so glad KeeblerElfScatPorn.com is not a banned site.

/kidding
 
2008-08-10 11:13:20 AM
"As in any other country, there are some kinds of limitations," Wang added. "However, I think we are going to provide sufficient access for the media to cover the games."

This is the way the government works in China. They're in denial that they're even doing anything wrong, and this is how it's reported by your average journalist.
 
2008-08-10 11:13:51 AM
"these days"?

I don't recall reading about the chinese people ever not living under a authoratarian government...
 
2008-08-10 11:15:42 AM
Of course, how many of these journalists are taking lots of notes, will somehow smuggle these notes out of the country, then do their reports about what they've found after the Olympics are over? I bet we start to hear lots of interesting stories once the games have wrapped up.
 
2008-08-10 11:16:23 AM
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Very cuil, very cuil..
 
2008-08-10 11:18:11 AM
derek20cali: Hobodeluxe: and Murdoch handles their media needs too. just like here in the states.

You failed pretty hard for a Boobies there.


Right back atcha.
 
2008-08-10 11:18:13 AM
Their mintruth must have one hell of a tech department
 
2008-08-10 11:18:48 AM
"As in any other country, there are some kinds of limitations," Wang added. "However, I think we are going to provide sufficient access for the media to cover the games."


The Government knows what is best. Do not question the Government.

Political speak 101.
'think' = may or may not
sufficient = non-declarative
media = if credentials removed or suspended, they are no longer 'media'


I'm covering the olympics and CHINA IS A GREAT WONDERFUL COUNTRY THAT LOVES ALL PEOPLE is going on.
 
2008-08-10 11:21:28 AM
it's a conspiracy to convert all our best reporters?
 
2008-08-10 11:22:04 AM
Leave it up to journalists to wait until they arrive in China to get familiar with Tibet, Taiwan, Tiananmen Square and Falun Gong. That's nice preparation, fish hacks. I could see someone wanting to find out how many of the Dalai Lama's followers the Chinese had killed this week on the web, but any journalist who decides to start researching the Tiananmen Massacre while in China in the middle one of the biggest political PR campaigns ever should have their fedora with the little 'Press' card in the band taken away from them.

/still calls journalists fish hacks and thinks they should look like Jimmy Olsen
//big hitter, the Lama
 
2008-08-10 11:23:35 AM
I'd rather China keep their authoritarian government for a little while longer rather than allow the peasant farmer majorities to control that economic juggernaut.
 
2008-08-10 11:23:54 AM
It sucks, but it's their government/country and as long as they are minding their own business, then so should everyone else.

It looks to be a case of reporters not being prohibited from doing their job in covering the games, but a case of reporters finding out that the whole freedom of information/freedom of speech thing isn't a right with which people are born. Other countries can, and will, tell you to keep your mouth shut and mind your own damned business as they see fit. The reporters are, no doubt, not used to someone being able to do that.

... and what do searches on Falun Gong, Tiananmen Square, Tibet, Taiwan and the Dalai Lama have to do with reporting the Olympic games?
 
2008-08-10 11:23:55 AM
But I don't understand...teh internets worked just fine at:
www.maglietta.org
 
2008-08-10 11:24:40 AM
You mean communism is b-b-bad?

That's not what my journalism professors told me!
 
2008-08-10 11:25:54 AM
Trap-Door Spider: That's not what my journalism professors told me!

They were teaching theory :P
 
2008-08-10 11:25:54 AM
TMBGfreak:

I'd rather China keep their authoritarian government for a little while longer rather than allow the peasant farmer majorities to control that economic juggernaut.

when we allow peasants to have a say in government is when we lose the ability to achieve the greater good of the people. the state must be allowed to serve the interests of the people and the peasants must not be allowed to stand in the way.
 
2008-08-10 11:25:55 AM
"Of course, how many of these journalists are taking lots of notes, will somehow smuggle these notes out of the country, then do their reports about what they've found after the Olympics are over? I bet we start to hear lots of interesting stories once the games have wrapped up."

I doubt it. We will just here how great Obama is and how old McCain is and which young star is showing here coochie again
 
2008-08-10 11:26:11 AM
I still consider Cisco and Google to both be sell outs for going along with this crap.
 
2008-08-10 11:26:24 AM
TMBGfreak,

Maybe China should give peasant farmer folk 1/3 of a vote...
 
2008-08-10 11:26:31 AM
vaconex
CHINA IS A GREAT WONDERFUL COUNTRY THAT LOVES ALL PEOPLE
the internet is all capatalist propaganda from which we must be shielded, comrade!
 
2008-08-10 11:26:43 AM
China is a country going through an industrial and economic revolution right now. With a billion lives in the balance. Anarchy isnt the answer. Also with their one child per couple laws China is the only country to address the actual biggest problem facing humanity. Overpopulation. All the freedoms in the world become moot when you and your kids are starving. China is far from the best form of government or kindest but they are a damned sight more forward thinking than most.
 
2008-08-10 11:27:44 AM
coloclone: Is porn banned in China?

You're not allowed to see genitals. That's why there is a little face on dildo's from China.
 
2008-08-10 11:30:55 AM
cjdusa: I doubt it. We will just here how great Obama is and how old McCain is and which young star is showing here coochie again

It's awfully early to be drinking on a Sunday morning, don't you think?
 
2008-08-10 11:31:11 AM
Subbie missed the point.

This isn't about the fact that China filters the internet. It's about the fact that China promised to lift the restrictions on the reporters and they only did it partially.

It's also pretty stupid to filter foreigners!
 
2008-08-10 11:31:45 AM
La Fee Verte: coloclone: Is porn banned in China?

You're not allowed to see genitals. That's why there is a little face on dildo's from China.


Tell me more
 
2008-08-10 11:31:48 AM
everlastinggobstopper: Leave it up to journalists to wait until they arrive in China to get familiar with Tibet, Taiwan, Tiananmen Square and Falun Gong. That's nice preparation, fish hacks. I could see someone wanting to find out how many of the Dalai Lama's followers the Chinese had killed this week on the web, but any journalist who decides to start researching the Tiananmen Massacre while in China in the middle one of the biggest political PR campaigns ever should have their fedora with the little 'Press' card in the band taken away from them.

Oh please. Those lapdogs weren't planning to actually report on any of this stuff, even if the sites had been unblocked. They're just throwing search terms in while they're bored to see what's banned so they can have something to complain about.

Trust me. After the games, you won't see a single sports reporter showing up on the op-ed page saying, "Holy shait, the world needs to know about China." Not a single one. You'll see "wah, they blocked my internet" but it'll be accompanied by "wah, they drink tea here and I couldn't get a decent cup of coffee."

Disgusting. They should have had the Games in Taiwan.
 
2008-08-10 11:32:45 AM
bubbaprog: It's awfully early to be drinking on a Sunday morning, don't you think?

I tend to think of it as 'awfully late on a Saturday night.'

That makes it ok.
 
2008-08-10 11:36:21 AM
PSA- China doesn't give a shiat what the western world thinks. If they really had a concern for their image, they would have allowed unfettered access to journalists, and we wouldn't be having this discussion. China played the Olympic Committee like a fiddle.
 
2008-08-10 11:36:21 AM
Virulency: it's a conspiracy to convert all our best reporters?

Most of them have been converts for many years.
 
2008-08-10 11:36:27 AM
"...Rebecca MacKinnon, who studies Internet censorship in mainland China, said none of the changes have affected Chinese-language sites...."

Really... ?
 
2008-08-10 11:36:49 AM
Everyone is forgetting that these are SPORTS reporters! Of course they have no idea what they are talking about or getting into...
 
2008-08-10 11:38:06 AM
Looks like these reporters haven't figured out how Tor works yet.
 
2008-08-10 11:39:31 AM
Can't we all just focus on how hot Gymnast are
 
2008-08-10 11:39:50 AM
Maybe some Mongolian hackers could bring down this Great Firewall of China?
 
2008-08-10 11:40:08 AM
psicop: Can't we all just focus on how hot Gymnast are

Or the Polish women's volleyball team? Dear lord.
 
2008-08-10 11:40:57 AM
GimpyNip: La Fee Verte: coloclone: Is porn banned in China?

You're not allowed to see genitals. That's why there is a little face on dildo's from China.

Tell me more


What would you like to know? Not that I'm an expert. But when I was at the local Mail & Female (popping goodness, NSFW) store, looking at dildo's. The sales girl told me that, while she showed me one with a cute little face on it.

/didn't buy that one
 
2008-08-10 11:41:09 AM
I used to live in Beijing, and the only site I couldn't get on was someone's livejournal. But I didn't try very hard. The odd search result would turn up negative sites too, but since I wasn't rooting around looking for things to complain about, it really.wasn't.that. big of a deal. Maybe if I were doing research for a paper or something it might have been a problem.
 
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