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(Ohio.com)   Not news: couple arrested for income tax evasion. Fark: they owed $10.12. Bonus: they now owe $400 in court fees   (ohio.com) divider line 79
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2008-08-08 07:20:16 PM
Screw 'em. Pay your taxes.
 
2008-08-08 07:26:55 PM
oh shiat. I'm in trouble.
 
2008-08-08 09:16:38 PM
You know, the should have read their mail. But then again, the city could have called and said "You know, you owe us 10 bucks, we really don't want to have to spend $400 to come to your house and drag you into court to tell you this. Please come by and pay up sometime this week."

Hell, the city should have called. Doesn't anyone ever think "Woah, what if someone heard about this action? Would we look like total asshats?"
 
2008-08-08 09:31:54 PM
At first I was going to agree that this is asinine, but the article says the wife clearly and knowingly disregarded the mail notices, including a certified court summons.

You don't get a certified letter from the district court and throw it in the trash. They are now paying for her stupidity.
 
2008-08-08 10:00:47 PM
liberalish: You know, the should have read their mail. But then again, the city could have called and said "You know, you owe us 10 bucks, we really don't want to have to spend $400 to come to your house and drag you into court to tell you this1. Please come by and pay up sometime this week."

Hell, the city should have called. Doesn't anyone ever think "Woah, what if someone heard about this action? Would we look like total asshats?"2


1: WTF does the city care? They're getting back their "investment," if you want to call it that, anyway, no matter what.

Court fees always seemed suspicious to me anyway. I'm already paying the fine. Why the hell do I have to double pay for the same thing (as well as the "expungement" system we have here in Ohio)? If anyone knows what the extra $(x) goes to, let me know. Seriously, I'm curious.

2: Probably not. Institutions like this are part of the reason I'll have a job when I graduate.
 
2008-08-08 10:44:21 PM
Deadbeats. You can farking make $10.12 by dancing in a crowded area with an upside down hat in front of you for 10 minutes.
 
2008-08-08 10:44:36 PM
play by the rules, suckers.
 
2008-08-08 10:45:38 PM
It seems like they most actively pursue people with the least money. I ended up owing $4,000 from 2006 because my boss made a MASSIVE error on the forms he gave me, so when I had my taxes done, they were done based on different numbers than what went to the government. I had nothing to do with the error [I don't touch my own taxes -- H&R Block is worth it for someone who is as poor at math as I am] but I had to pay. So I did, as much as it sucked [$4,000 was, at the time, about 2 months' pay].

They found another $37 I owed them and sent me a bill. I keep waiting for more fallout from this freaking mess... I just have an awful feeling that it's not done, even though the idiot boss laid off half the company in June. He tends to haunt people for years, as I know three other people were screwed over by his mistakes.

I wish the IRS would go after him, rather than his former employees who were underpaid as it was.
 
2008-08-08 10:47:06 PM
liberalish: You know, the should have read their mail. But then again, the city could have called and said "You know, you owe us 10 bucks, we really don't want to have to spend $400 to come to your house and drag you into court to tell you this. Please come by and pay up sometime this week."

Hell, the city should have called. Doesn't anyone ever think "Woah, what if someone heard about this action? Would we look like total asshats?"


According to the article, the city sent several registered letters which the deadbeats admitted they ignored. And then they continued to complain about how unfair everything was that they had to pay their court costs after missing their court date.
 
2008-08-08 10:47:58 PM
NOW can we have an Ohio tag?
 
2008-08-08 10:48:36 PM
She ignored certified mail? Don't you have to sign for it? You'd think if someone took the trouble to send you a letter that you had to sign for that you would actually open it and read it. And you'd think that once you'd opened it and read it and it said "If you don't pay your tax bill we will arrest your ass and drag you to court" that you would get off your lazy butt and pay your taxes.

This is asinine, but it's the couple that deserve the tag, not the city.
 
2008-08-08 10:51:09 PM
fredcat: Screw 'em. Pay your taxes.

Nice.
 
2008-08-08 10:51:33 PM
That's tax evoision
 
2008-08-08 10:53:02 PM
OPEN YOUR farkING CERTIFIED MAIL!
 
2008-08-08 10:53:59 PM
The wife is an idiot. Noone pays to send you certified mail for their health. She looks old enough to know that. Now she's all bent out of shape because her idiocy cost them money.

Death and Taxes. Can't dodge 'em forever and its always a bigger hit at the end.
 
2008-08-08 10:54:41 PM
How much did the city spend in postage alone, let along court costs before they were taken to court? Let it go people. No wonder US gaols are overcrowded.
 
2008-08-08 10:55:36 PM
Gameshot911: OPEN YOUR farkING CERTIFIED MAIL!

''I didn't think it was anything,'' she said. ''We weren't expecting any special mail. I always thought certified mail was a legal matter and we've never had any legal issues before.''


Yeah. You've never had legal issues before so it's inconceivable that the certified letter in your hand now is a legal issue. Should be safe to ignore it.
 
2008-08-08 10:56:13 PM
Does anyone else feel like fodder? Seriously - all this trouble over $10.12?

/sure, pay your taxes
//still - fark bureaucrats, right in the ear
 
2008-08-08 10:56:30 PM
Certified mail is about $5, I hope the city at least gets a bulk mail discount, or you're paying $5, plus an overpaid secretary to mail it, they probably lose money on stupid crap like this
 
2008-08-08 10:57:33 PM
I had a roommate once that got a nasty letter from the IRS over an 18 cent tax debt. The letter was mailed with a 32 cent stamp.
 
2008-08-08 10:59:12 PM
''I just wonder how much it cost taxpayers to send a cruiser to our home,'' she said. ''It's a sad way to collect city income taxes.''

Goddamned moron.

For the record, she never really received the certified mail telling her this. She ignored all the notices from the post office saying "Hey, someone sent you certified mail, come sign for it and pick it up!" Honestly I don't think it says who it's from on the little slip they leave in your box if you're not home. Still, why wouldn't you find out?
 
2008-08-08 11:01:07 PM
Reminds me. My girlfriend was apparently a penny short on her federal taxes. They waived it, but they sent a thick letter saying they waived it. Bulk rate first class it still probably cost as much as a normal letter since it was so thick. Why?
 
2008-08-08 11:02:48 PM
www.thedisquiet.com

Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?
 
2008-08-08 11:03:26 PM
As a Barberton resident and taxpayer, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

Actually, I do live in Barberton. Not only did they notify them about the taxes, but on EVERY SINGLE WATER BILL from January until Tax Time, there was a notice about how they could bring their W2s to the library or the tax department on a weekday evening or a saturday, and they could have their city taxes prepared FOR FREE and pay them on the spot. Also, CCA allows for E-Filing which takes about 5 minutes to set up an account and pay the taxes on there.

This is pretty much just general laziness. They give you so many ways to file for free and pay. Check your mail.
 
2008-08-08 11:06:46 PM
Kimberly Clark. They make some great paper products.
 
2008-08-08 11:07:51 PM
Come on, doesn't anyone RTFA anymore? FTFA: "Kimberly Clark admits she ignored several notices from the post office."

Clearly nobody was home to sign for the mail, so it went to the post office and she got one of those delivery notices. I suppose not making the trip to the post office for mail you're not expecting is a bit more excusable than not opening mail that's in your house...

/Oh who am I kidding, this is fark.
 
2008-08-08 11:10:59 PM
I hope these people sell their home and move away from that nut-case town and state as soon as possible. We need an OHIO tag.
 
2008-08-08 11:11:58 PM
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2008-08-08 11:12:09 PM
fredcat: Screw 'em. Pay your taxes.

Here, we see out in the wild, the infamous retard in his natural habitat. Look at the speed and ease as he pounces on the thread, spewing his mindless rhetoric before any sane creature can post a rational remark. After his kill, the retard slithers back into his anonymous cave, content for the evening in thinking his bile has left a thought-provoking contribution.
 
2008-08-08 11:13:00 PM
Is their a Libertinian in teh house ?

Noone ? Noone ?
 
2008-08-08 11:14:09 PM
liberalish

You know, the should have read their mail. But then again, the city could have called and said "You know, you owe us 10 bucks, we really don't want to have to spend $400 to come to your house and drag you into court to tell you this. Please come by and pay up sometime this week."

The wife would have looked at her caller ID and said, "I wonder why someone from the DA's office is calling me? We never had any legal trouble so it must be the wrong number."
 
2008-08-08 11:16:55 PM
Yeah we get certified mail from the county once or twice a year. The card they leave in your mailbox says who its from, but its generally written with a golf pencil with a rattling steering wheel as a background in an idling mail truck.

Have to go to the post office from what, 8:00 to 4:00 Monday thru Friday or 10:15 to 12:45 on Saturday to find out what it is. Real convenient.
 
2008-08-08 11:17:11 PM
that'll learn 'em
 
2008-08-08 11:20:12 PM
www.fotosearch.com

Oh hai!
I think you have some tax money for us?
 
2008-08-08 11:27:42 PM
Politicians and bureaucrats = a~holes. WTF... Over 10 farking dollars... Makes about as much sense as the war on drugs.
 
2008-08-08 11:27:53 PM
The government probably spent 50X+ that amount to arrest and bring this couple to court.

The gov't is officially retarded.
 
2008-08-08 11:34:10 PM
I took out about 32K from Sallie Mae in loans. I currently owe over 45K. I hate Sallie Mae.

But serious, yeah, that's freaking ridiculous. Going to court over ten freaking dollars? Jeez, don't even bother arresting them, just ask them to hand over ten bucks and some change.
 
2008-08-08 11:36:41 PM
Ringshadow: But serious, yeah, that's freaking ridiculous. Going to court over ten freaking dollars? Jeez, don't even bother arresting them, just ask them to hand over ten bucks and some change.

That wouldn't be profitable.
 
2008-08-08 11:40:03 PM
Fark: Where "I'm shooting any cop that comes within 100 feet of me" peacefully coexists with "pay your taxes, shiatheads!"
 
2008-08-08 11:40:55 PM
fifth_of_november
The government probably spent 50X+ that amount to arrest and bring this couple to court.

They didn't actually get arrested. The police let them (or at least him) go to court that day.

A couple of years ago I under paid my federal taxes $7. The IRS kindly notified me and then not-so-kindly charged me $50 for the error. It was my first return as a homeowner. I think only being $7 off was pretty good. B**tards.
 
2008-08-08 11:42:27 PM
liberalish:
Hell, the city should have called. Doesn't anyone ever think "Woah, what if someone heard about this action? Would we look like total asshats?"


First it takes an understanding of what government is. Government is a like organized crime. It is as if you owed the godfather 10 bucks and didn't pay. It's the dis-respect that has them send the goons out to use force. Also it's about squeezing the people who can be squeezed. It's not about ten bucks it's to remind people who has the guns and what they will do if you don't pay.

Second, most government workers don't think about their jobs they just do their jobs. they follow orders, procedures, etc. They could be replaced by machines in many cases. This is how the criminals can infest government. The workers who don't go 'damn, this some stupid/abusive shiat, I won't do it'. Instead they just shrug and go 'just doing my job'.

Anyway, taxes and other abuses today are many, many times worse than anything king george ever tried to impose. We'd probably be better off with a king because at least people would see this crap for what it is instead of being under the delusion that somehow we have a say in it. Elections between tweedle dee and tweedle dum who are owned by the same interests isn't having a say.
 
2008-08-08 11:43:42 PM
I had sympathy for her till I read the article. After multiple notices, she didn't pay her taxes, thinking that $10 was nothing. She's a stupid biatch who got what she deserved for not paying the damn bills. Funny, how not paying a small bill on time can end up costing you so much more.

And, they weren't arrested for not paying their bill, they were arrested for not showing up for court.
 
2008-08-08 11:45:06 PM
leadmetal: First it takes an understanding of what government is. Government is a like organized crime. It is as if you owed the godfather 10 bucks and didn't pay. It's the dis-respect that has them send the goons out to use force. Also it's about squeezing the people who can be squeezed. It's not about ten bucks it's to remind people who has the guns and what they will do if you don't pay.

Second, most government workers don't think about their jobs they just do their jobs. they follow orders, procedures, etc. They could be replaced by machines in many cases. This is how the criminals can infest government. The workers who don't go 'damn, this some stupid/abusive shiat, I won't do it'. Instead they just shrug and go 'just doing my job'.

Anyway, taxes and other abuses today are many, many times worse than anything king george ever tried to impose. We'd probably be better off with a king because at least people would see this crap for what it is instead of being under the delusion that somehow we have a say in it. Elections between tweedle dee and tweedle dum who are owned by the same interests isn't having a say.


This.
 
2008-08-09 12:08:10 AM
Gameshot911: OPEN YOUR farkING CERTIFIED MAIL!

I worked for a company that got into some environmental trouble. Seems the receptionist was afraid to deliver the letter (certified) to the boss and threw it away. The boss only wishes that it was a $400 fine after the state agency got through with him. It wasn't pretty and she got introduced to the unemployment office. Thinking that was the end of it, the senior secretary that took her place gave the next certified letter to the 2nd in command and he kept it in his file. It was over 6 months before I found out about it but was able to work it out with the state as we only had 2 weeks to respond.
 
2008-08-09 12:08:45 AM
I agree with everyone saying that the IRS is full of a bunch of people who don't think about their jobs, they only follow procedures. Regardless of weather they are logical or profitable.

I also agree with those saying that the tax evaders are stupid asshats who should have simply fired off a check.

My actual point here is that in many retail shops, loss prevention associates are disciplined (in some cases fired) for making a "stop" for theft of any amount under $5. They are expected to make a note of the thief, review the video tapes and confer with their comrades.... and watch for that person in the future. Due to the cost of enforcement, the IRS should set the minimum a little higher.... say $100.
 
2008-08-09 12:15:25 AM
never trust the gubmint when they say you owe them back taxes. got a bill from the IRS one year saying I owed them $3000+ from a unfiled 1099 about 3 years prior. (never received the 1099, didn't know a thing about it.) got a copy of it, redid and refiled the forms, they ended up owing ME another $900.00 on my refund. ha.
 
2008-08-09 12:26:10 AM
You farking idiots have no sense of proportion it seems.
 
2008-08-09 12:26:22 AM
Next time they fly, they are SO not getting their laptop back.
 
2008-08-09 12:34:04 AM
Hm, I ignored and didn't fill out a form sent by the state once about my income. But it was probably because, paraphrased, it said this: "You MUST fill this out by this date. If you do not, then we won't do anything about it, or just figure it out on our own."

And a month later I received a letter saying "We're not doing anything about it." For some reason it took like a page for them to say that.
 
2008-08-09 12:36:08 AM
They weren't thrown in jail. They were forced to pay the ten bucks they owed and a whole four hundred bucks in court costs. That is the price they deserve to pay for being so stupid as to throw out/not go to the post office to get certified mail. When somebody sends you something certified mail, it means they want proof it was delivered and therefore is very, very important. Duh.
 
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