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2008-08-07 09:04:42 PM
NHmike: I can't wait until the MS13 boys file a lawsuit. After all, be a member of a group that lives consistently outside the bojust because they are in a gang that is feared on 2 continents for its brutality doesn't mean they can't also be really nice guys.



MS13 and other deadly So Cal gangsters often show up en familia at Disneyland. Never as a gang, and always with the whole family: dad (usually the gangbanger) mom, kids, cousins, abuela, aunties, etc. They mind their manners, pay for everything, buy the kids everything they want. Disney has never, ever had any trouble with the gangsters.

In the past 15 years when I was on/off employed there, the only "gang" troubles we ever had were on Grad Nites, when high-school wannabe gangsters would fight. And then it was always school rivalry, not gang rivalry.
 
2008-08-07 09:05:23 PM
low.dose: brap: I'm still praying for the pussification of my hands.

that is the only pussification that matters...


Are you forgetting something? Like, maybe, your penis?

/Put your good where it can do the most.
 
2008-08-07 09:05:51 PM
Hell's Angels kills children.

Therefore anyone associated with hells angels (who knowingly want to associate with such killers), can eat shiat.
 
2008-08-07 09:07:51 PM
andrewabc: Hell's Angels kills children.

Therefore anyone associated with hells angels (who knowingly want to associate with such killers), can eat shiat.


So does God?
 
2008-08-07 09:09:37 PM
andrewabc: Hell's Angels kills children.

Therefore anyone associated with hells angels (who knowingly want to associate with such killers), can eat shiat.


This. I don't care what kind of charitable face they put on around Christmas. They earned their reputation as murderers, rapists and drug dealers. Too bad Wyatt Earp can't come back from the grave on a chopper.
 
2008-08-07 09:10:51 PM
Smallberries:
So does God?


No proof or disproof of a God.
There is proof that Hell's Angels killed a child.
 
2008-08-07 09:12:00 PM
WTF?

I've drank, smoked weed, done cocaine and meth with Hell's Angels and Outlaws both.

All I can say about them is this: If you don't start any shiat, there won't BE any shiat.

But if you're around them, just party. Don't try to get laid, because I saw a friend of a friend get beat up when he tried to hit on one of their chicks.
 
2008-08-07 09:14:30 PM
Hells Angels are worthless pieces of shiat.

Good for them. If only all businesses would do the same.
 
2008-08-07 09:23:45 PM
ivars: This is a pure case of prejudice and discrimination. How about we live and let live? Judge people after they have actually done something wrong? To you?

America: Land of the Free MY ASS



Actually, if this was the Land of the Free men with guns would not be allowed to step in and tell you who you had to service at your place of business. They would be allowed to deny service to any group they choose.

However, it isn't- and men with guns are quite happy to give you problems should refuse service to any of the "more equal" members of society. The Angels simply haven't obtained this status, thus they can be discriminated against just like anyone else who doesn't have their own activist group.

Basically, they need some parades. And a few lawyers. And maybe a cute slogan.
 
2008-08-07 09:26:06 PM
I agree, the Hell's Angels are a waste of our resources. But it does seem pretty bad, culturally, when one of our most notorious biker gangs is stamping their feet and turning red because the local Shoney's won't let them eat the breakfast buffet.

I used to think we, as a society, should rise up and slaughter the gangs on sight, but now I figure they'll just wuss themselves out of existence.
 
2008-08-07 09:31:11 PM
Tangent: Read "Under and Alone" by William Queen if the subject of biker gangs being infiltrated and taken down by the ATF interests you. Read it before the movie is made (reportedly in pre-production any maybe starring Mel Gibson) for extra points.
 
2008-08-07 09:33:27 PM
Two aging dudes with receding hairlines and ponytails...yeah that is my definition of a gang.
 
2008-08-07 09:33:51 PM
Good. And for those of you who think they're just a club, read Angels of Death (pops).
 
2008-08-07 09:36:02 PM
KentuckyBob: Two aging dudes with receding hairlines and ponytails...yeah that is my definition of a gang.

Because only young males with their pants sagging down could commit violence in the name of a gang.

/idiot
 
2008-08-07 09:45:46 PM
Chain Of Evidence is another great book written by a female under cover agent who infiltrated the H.A.'s gang to help solve a murder.

Ugly. Dark. True.
 
2008-08-07 09:45:48 PM
headlighted-deer: KentuckyBob: Two aging dudes with receding hairlines and ponytails...yeah that is my definition of a gang.

Because only young males with their pants sagging down could commit violence in the name of a gang.

/idiot

My sister was raped by a Hells Angel, so slick, I think I have every right to be sarcastic.

Oh and btw, fark you.
 
2008-08-07 09:49:37 PM
Gyrfalcon

We have a colony of MS13 in the Boston area and they seem to be able to throw quite a scare into the local police. I believe they are primarily from Ecuador and they have a mean streak about 3 feet wide.

You said they were very well behaved at Disneyland (my hometown is where the other Disney park is located). I guess if you are a bad enough motherfarker to belong to that gang, you really don't have to brag about it.

I know what you are saying about Grad Night, though. Only the Vanilla Ice crowd causes trouble. At my Grad night at WDW in the 80's, they made us wear a shirt and tie (even though it was hotter than hell - June in Fla) and all the girls had to wear dresses. We also had to go through metal detectors and have teachers sniff all over us for booze. But, what the hell? I got to see Weird Al Yankovic AND Night Ranger dammit!
 
2008-08-07 09:50:33 PM
"...proving that discrimination goes in cycles"

RIMSHOT (new window)
 
2008-08-07 09:57:02 PM
because of a member of the HA i didn't get raped on my 16th birthday when someone told them I was still a virgin. He told them I belonged to him and no one had better touch me. I kept in touch with him for several years before losing touch with him and he never ever harmed me. So some of them are good people.
 
2008-08-07 10:00:07 PM
KentuckyBob: headlighted-deer: KentuckyBob: Two aging dudes with receding hairlines and ponytails...yeah that is my definition of a gang.

Because only young males with their pants sagging down could commit violence in the name of a gang.

/idiot

My sister was raped by a Hells Angel, so slick, I think I have every right to be sarcastic.

Oh and btw, fark you.


Because your post was obviously sarcastic. Boohoo for your anecdote.
 
2008-08-07 10:00:21 PM
Sounds like a bunch of piss-ant bureaucrats trying to discriminate and pretend they're not. Somehow, it doesn't seem the world best idea to tell a gang of outlaw bikers they can't have a burger and a beer...
 
2008-08-07 10:01:41 PM
NHmike: We also had to go through metal detectors and have teachers sniff all over us for booze.

I smell a teacher sex scandal in the works.
 
2008-08-07 10:05:59 PM
KentuckyBob: headlighted-deer: KentuckyBob: Two aging dudes with receding hairlines and ponytails...yeah that is my definition of a gang.

Because only young males with their pants sagging down could commit violence in the name of a gang.

/idiot

My sister was raped by a Hells Angel, so slick, I think I have every right to be sarcastic.

Oh and btw, fark you.


I just reread that, you're telling me your sister was raped by this gang and because these two guys look a bit older they can't be all that bad? Yea, DIAF
 
2008-08-07 10:07:27 PM
The hell's angels are suing people? Has everyone in this country grown a vagina complete with centipedes? What happened to the group that just would have trashed the place and made off with the women folk and the booze back in the day?
 
2008-08-07 10:10:25 PM
vixis: So some of them are good people.

True, however in Canada, they're mostly criminal scumbags but smart criminal scumbags. They know how to work around the law and have lawyers up their asses. They also own a lot of legitimate business so if their drug operations suffer a hit, they have legal backup to sustain operations elsewhere. They know the meaning of the term "do not shiat where you live" because anywhere there's a clubhouse, the neighborhood will comment on how quiet and trouble free it is. Exactly.

I know there's branches in cities and members that aren't criminal scumbags but up here, that's the general rule.
 
2008-08-07 10:11:38 PM
AppleOptionEsc: Unless arsehole is a sex, race, color, religion, age, handicap or national or ethnic origin, or sexual prefrence, I fail to see what is wrong with letting a group known for violence and drug use into an establishment

Stereotype much? I grew up around some Hells Angels. They weren't druggies or criminals. Get out more and life won't be so scary to you. Also, not all blacks are gang bangers, not all southerners are KKK members, not all......

Wait. Why does someone have to explain this to you? Don't be so ignorant.

/BOO
 
2008-08-07 10:13:37 PM
Danger Avoid Death

Damn! And all these years I thought they were doing that because they were just trying to keep me from the evil clutches of Demon Rum!

I guess I DID have teachers like that when I was in school - I was just too damn stupid to realize it.
 
2008-08-07 10:14:07 PM
It's a case of doing something you think you can get away with vs doing something that will get you the Jackson/Sharpton special



Darth Shatner
BTW did you know Obama is black?
Nope..he's white(50%)/Arab(43%).
(6%) African American
 
2008-08-07 10:15:52 PM
Hells Angels hiring attorneys?

i275.photobucket.com
 
2008-08-07 10:20:01 PM
Came to thank subby for chuckle. +1 subby
 
2008-08-07 10:38:42 PM
ArkAngel: A. The restaurant prohibits gang clothing
B. The Hell's Angels are a gang
C. They often wear distinctive clothing
D. Go to hell big scary bikers


The Hell's Angels are a motorcycle club. They're actually very nice people for the most part as long as you don't fk with them
 
2008-08-07 10:42:54 PM
So, essentially, the town is saying to the bad-ass bikers: suck it, gangbangers! We don't want your kind around here! We don't want no trouble, so get lost!

/yeah, that's it
 
2008-08-07 10:45:14 PM
mud_shark: ArkAngel: A. The restaurant prohibits gang clothing
B. The Hell's Angels are a gang
C. They often wear distinctive clothing
D. Go to hell big scary bikers

The Hell's Angels are a motorcycle club. They're actually very nice people for the most part as long as you don't fk with them


Depending on where in the country you're talking about, either one is true, but is generally the latter. It used to be one hell of violent gang up in most places up until their little spat with the Outlaws and the whole ATF/FBI/DEA crack down on both groups. Outlaws ended up getting hit a lot harder though, Hells Angels were smart enough to start scaling back quicker.
 
2008-08-07 10:49:57 PM
andrewabc: Hell's Angels kills children.

Therefore anyone associated with hells angels (who knowingly want to associate with such killers), can eat shiat.


So do liberals.

/ducks
 
2008-08-07 10:53:31 PM
Mija: Stereotype much? I grew up around some Hells Angels. They weren't druggies or criminals. Get out more and life won't be so scary to you. Also, not all blacks are gang bangers, not all southerners are KKK members, not all......

Blacks are born black.
Southerners just happen to live somewhere.

Hell's Angels voluntarily join a gang that prides itself on its outlaw status and which has a history of violence. So hey, if you wanna be a bad boy for pretend, don't biatch when someone assumes you're a bad boy for real.
 
2008-08-07 10:55:41 PM
Mija: Stereotype much? I grew up around some Hells Angels. They weren't druggies or criminals. Get out more and life won't be so scary to you. Also, not all blacks are gang bangers, not all southerners are KKK members, not all......

Wait. Why does someone have to explain this to you? Don't be so ignorant.

/BOO


My knowledge of gang names is rather limited, but last I heard, The bloods, Crypts, Kings, Hells Angels and KKK we all quite violent gangs. Had I known that Hell's Angels had such a lax policy of letting anyone join, similar to Catholicism and Islam, then I apologize for knowing a small percent of the gang gives an inaccurate projection of the whole.

And, if I thought all broad stereotypes were true, it would be very hard for me to function in Milwaukee. But hey, those kids down there flashing gang signals seems friendly, maybe I should go say hello...
 
2008-08-07 10:57:03 PM
AppleOptionEsc: apologize for knowing

*for NOT knowing
 
2008-08-07 10:58:36 PM
amazing_live_seamonkeys: Hmmm - I take it your not a fan of Hunter S. Thompson.

Neither are the Hell's Angels.

They damn near killed his ass.


If you believe everything he writes. Lots of fiction with a sprinkling of truth and insightful opinion.

For good or for ill, that's just my opinion of course, but I've read everything he's ever written that has been published and I think a great deal of it was exaggerated.
 
2008-08-07 11:06:33 PM
+81
 
2008-08-07 11:06:34 PM
mud_shark: amazing_live_seamonkeys: Hmmm - I take it your not a fan of Hunter S. Thompson.

Neither are the Hell's Angels.

They damn near killed his ass.

If you believe everything he writes. Lots of fiction with a sprinkling of truth and insightful opinion.

For good or for ill, that's just my opinion of course, but I've read everything he's ever written that has been published and I think a great deal of it was exaggerated.


Yeah, He probably didn't let the facts get in the way of a good story.
 
2008-08-07 11:31:13 PM
Where I live (a place where HA held a major convention recently because there's a large group in town), the HA are classified as a criminal street gang.

That's because the head of the organization and at least a dozen other members of this particular motorcycle club have been convicted of felony charges in the past 3 years.

Therefore, associating with them and wearing their insignia makes you a criminal street gang member, and as such, there are lots of places you can't go.

I live near a neighborhood that got their criminal street gang injunction upheld in court (and turned down to be heard by the US Supreme Court, so it's over) - you can't wear Raider's insignia in a particular area, or a bunch of other crap I don't remember what it is. You just can't do it.

Lots of foot stamping here, too. They can go anywhere they want - as long as they don't wear their colors.
 
2008-08-07 11:35:40 PM
mikaloyd

The lawyered up pussification of America is now complete.



I hate to say it, but -- this.

/Change out of the stupid biker club crap and put on a t-shirt with something like "hometown sports team" on it if you need some kind of label for self-affirmation.
//HA and Harley Davidson subcultures -- WTF?
 
2008-08-07 11:52:41 PM
it has to be racist somehow.
 
2008-08-07 11:53:32 PM
I had a good friend who was into biker gangs. To me, he was a nice guy. After he died at age 30, I found out that he was part of a group who tortured a guy for a week and eventually killed him over a $500 drug debt. They blow torched his feet and privates.... you never know...
 
2008-08-08 12:05:43 AM
mud_shark: amazing_live_seamonkeys: Hmmm - I take it your not a fan of Hunter S. Thompson.

Neither are the Hell's Angels.

They damn near killed his ass.

If you believe everything he writes wrote. Lots of fiction with a sprinkling of truth and insightful opinion.

For good or for ill, that's just my opinion of course, but I've read everything he's ever written that has been published and I think a great deal of it was exaggerated.


FTFM - I was very disappointed in his death. I no longer pick up Rolling Stone when I'm waiting in line at the supermarket or convenience store to see if he wrote anything for them.

sad...
 
2008-08-08 12:08:46 AM
What's the difference between a Hoover and a Harley?....

It's where the dirt bag rides.

/love that one
//told it to a Harley dealer at a show at the Holiday Inn where I was working once. He didn't find it amusing. I thought it was priceless.
 
2008-08-08 12:12:47 AM
Bikers are probably the nicest people I know. As long as you don't go around saying "you're not so tough" while sloshed on your ass in a bar, they don't care what you do. Besides, when I go to my old neighborhood (crime is a way of life there), I have no trouble at all, simply from peoples ignorance that every biker is a mean and nasty monster. And if you ever need help, they don't give the old " Oh, uh , ...I've got plans that weekend" you call ,they come.


/I do open doors for little old ladies
// I've yet to help the blind to see
 
2008-08-08 12:36:45 AM
Breaker Moran: mikaloyd

The lawyered up pussification of America is now complete.



I hate to say it, but -- this.

/Change out of the stupid biker club crap and put on a t-shirt with something like "hometown sports team" on it if you need some kind of label for self-affirmation.
//HA and Harley Davidson subcultures -- WTF?


Yeah - great idea. Identify with some business that provides half-arsed entertainment and affiliates themselves with your hometown even though they could give a crap about you or your hometown instead of making friends with people who you enjoy hanging out with, will back each other up and share the same interests.

I don't know where you grew up, but I grew up in the Bayou City. I remember Bum Phillips (or was it Bud Adams?) threatening to take the NFL team to Jacksonville if they didn't get 10,000 more seats in the Astrodome when they couldn't fill the seats they already had. I remember the Spastros trading Nolan Ryan. I remember most of the players on professional sports teams having absolutely no ties to the city and very few who had ties to the state making millions of dollars and charging out that wazoo for tickets.

Here's a clue for you - change out of the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, and MLS sports paraphernalia and get a life of your own.

I'm guessing you regularly wear at least 3 popped collars underneath your NFL jersey that you paid $150 for over your 150 pound frame.
 
2008-08-08 12:36:48 AM
Did you know Barack Obama is black?

Only on the outside.
 
2008-08-08 12:38:56 AM
hbk72777: /I do open doors for little old ladies
// I've yet to help the blind to see


Nice to meet you Mr. Nice Guy
 
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