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(Forbes)   Congratulations Ohio for garnering four slots on the Forbes 10 fastest dying cities in the US list   (forbes.com) divider line 283
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2008-08-06 07:59:47 PM
Woohoo! I'm living in Ohio now and not in any of those cities. Sucks to be them. :)
 
2008-08-06 08:13:15 PM
As bad as the economy and the auto industry are here in Detroit, it is the city council and Mayor's office that have really held the city down. There is a tremendous desire among both city and suburban residents to revitalize the downtown area in the city and all of it's attractions, and it has progressed somewhat, but until the city 'leadership' has a large turnover people are afraid to invest in redevelopment despite low property prices which make it quite affordable.
 
2008-08-06 08:26:31 PM
My city fantasies have always been of the, Hey my dad has a closed industrial mill, let's put on a show! variety.

One could be a visionary and swoop in and do something groovy on an epic scale. Me and the better half harbor ghost-town fantasies. When everything falls apart I'll hand you all a hammer and you can help me build utopia in some god-forsaken brown-field where I can spend the rest of my days farming my own organic tumors.
 
2008-08-06 08:33:25 PM
My god. I'm SURROUNDED!
 
2008-08-06 08:35:16 PM
brap: My city fantasies have always been of the, Hey my dad has a closed industrial mill, let's put on a show! variety.

John Edwards?
 
2008-08-06 08:46:25 PM
Youngstown was on its death bed back in the late 70's/early 80's when I lived in OH. I remember it being on the news because something like half the town lost its jobs.
 
2008-08-06 08:54:20 PM
Is this really important? There will always be parts of a country which are growing and parts which are dying. Industry and society fluctuates.
 
2008-08-06 08:57:44 PM
Also, anyone know the flipside of this list? What are the 10 fast growing cities? How about the 10 in the best economic shape?
 
2008-08-06 09:01:06 PM
DamnYankees: Also, anyone know the flipside of this list? What are the 10 fast growing cities? How about the 10 in the best economic shape?

They're all in Asia.
 
2008-08-06 09:03:04 PM
DamnYankees: Also, anyone know the flipside of this list? What are the 10 fast growing cities?

Top 10 fastest growing large cities
City State Population Growth
New Orleans La. 239,124 13.8%
Victorville Calif. 107,221 9.5%
McKinney Texas 115,620 8.0%
N. Las Vegas Nev. 212,114 7.4%
Cary N.C. 121,796 7.3%
Killeen Texas 112,434 6.5%
Port St. Lucie Fla. 151,391 6.3%
Gilbert Ariz. 207,550 5.8%
Clarksville Tenn. 119,284 4.8%
Denton Texas 115,506 4.7%
Source: U.S. Census Bureau
 
2008-08-06 09:08:24 PM
2xhelix: Top 10 fastest growing large cities
City State Population Growth
New Orleans La. 239,124 13.8%
Victorville Calif. 107,221 9.5%
McKinney Texas 115,620 8.0%
N. Las Vegas Nev. 212,114 7.4%
Cary N.C. 121,796 7.3%
Killeen Texas 112,434 6.5%
Port St. Lucie Fla. 151,391 6.3%
Gilbert Ariz. 207,550 5.8%
Clarksville Tenn. 119,284 4.8%
Denton Texas 115,506 4.7%
Source: U.S. Census Bureau


Interesting list of fasting growing cities seeing how I see one city and several suburbs.
 
2008-08-06 09:09:41 PM
2xhelix: DamnYankees: Also, anyone know the flipside of this list? What are the 10 fast growing cities?

Top 10 fastest growing large cities
City State Population Growth
New Orleans La. 239,124 13.8%
Victorville Calif. 107,221 9.5%
McKinney Texas 115,620 8.0%
N. Las Vegas Nev. 212,114 7.4%
Cary N.C. 121,796 7.3%
Killeen Texas 112,434 6.5%
Port St. Lucie Fla. 151,391 6.3%
Gilbert Ariz. 207,550 5.8%
Clarksville Tenn. 119,284 4.8%
Denton Texas 115,506 4.7%
Source: U.S. Census Bureau


That can't possible be true. No way NO has grown. What is the time period of those? The only way NO is number 1 is if that is a 1 year increase, and its simply people returning after Katrina.
 
2008-08-06 09:12:34 PM
DamnYankees: The only way NO is number 1 is if that is a 1 year increase, and its simply people returning after Katrina.

Yeah, it's teh figures for 2007. Here's the full article.(p)
 
2008-08-06 09:14:10 PM
2xhelix: DamnYankees: The only way NO is number 1 is if that is a 1 year increase, and its simply people returning after Katrina.

Yeah, it's teh figures for 2007. Here's the full article.(p)


So anyone know the biggest increase from 2000 to now? That's the way this Forbes article counts population change.
 
2008-08-06 09:18:41 PM
liberalish: brap: My city fantasies have always been of the, Hey my dad has a closed industrial mill, let's put on a show! variety.

John Edwards?


If he's willing to play the role of "mental health intern helping cart away Blanche Dubois #2," make popcorn, and help sweep up afterwards, sure why not.
 
2008-08-06 09:33:03 PM
Born2late: Woohoo! I'm living in Ohio now and not in any of those cities. Sucks to be them. :)

I just moved from a place not on the list (Columbus) to a place on the list (Cleveland).

/Definitely not getting a kick out of these numbers.
 
2008-08-06 09:55:41 PM
Live here in Columbus, so I'm getting...

The local newspapers are full of reactions from the mayors of these cities. They realize that without swift and decisive action, their charges will all become ghost towns. They've rolled up their sleeves and are now...

Just kidding. They're attacking the study.
 
2008-08-06 09:56:18 PM
ohio sucks

/never been there
//what-e-va, it's the internet, i'll say what i want!
 
2008-08-06 09:57:08 PM
Much as I may miss home, it's times like this I'm almost happy the military's put me in California.
 
2008-08-06 09:57:23 PM
I've lived near Youngstown, Dayton, Canton, and Cleveland, so I'm getting a kick....

I'm not surprised. Saddened, but not surprised. At least Akron is holding pat so far.
 
2008-08-06 09:57:41 PM
...and I'm moving back to Buffalo in November.

hey upstate New Yorkers, remember when Hillary was going to save us all?
 
2008-08-06 09:58:00 PM
As someone who was born in Youngstown, I'm really anticipating the kicks.

/Somebody wanna post a Traficant pic?
//Waited on him the week he was indicted.
///Double dated a Sweetheart dance with his daughter.
////Cool dude, cool family, town still sucks.
 
2008-08-06 09:58:47 PM
Before I read the article let me guess the cities


In no particular order

1. Columbus
2. Toledo
3. Dayton
4. Cincinnati
 
2008-08-06 09:59:33 PM
I was born in Ohio, so I'm really getting a kick out of these responses.

/Mom and Dad had the common sense to leave before I turned 2.
 
2008-08-06 09:59:39 PM
I cant believe someone has yet to point out that Washington DC is 'sorta technically' the first words of that article... heh
 
2008-08-06 09:59:49 PM
I hate going to Cleveland nowadays. It's like Somalia. Akron is slowly going that way also. A prosecutor's investigator is saying there are 6-7 shootings a week there.
 
2008-08-06 10:01:01 PM
So... four dead in Ohio.
 
2008-08-06 10:01:31 PM
www.ci.toledo.oh.us

Missed the list.

SUCK IT, "OTHER OHIO"! BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/oh, wait. Carty. (new window) nevermind. shiat.
 
2008-08-06 10:01:40 PM

Springfield, MA is dying? According to everyone in Greater Boston, Western MA doesn't exist anyways...


And I thought Michael Moore had raised Flint MI from the dead?

 
2008-08-06 10:02:19 PM
Dorf11: So... four dead in Ohio.

Snap. Came to say that.
 
2008-08-06 10:02:34 PM
Aar1012: Before I read the article let me guess the cities


In no particular order

1. Columbus
2. Toledo
3. Dayton
4. Cincinnati


Wrong on 3 of them. You can read the article and find out for yourself, but I am curious, why did you put Columbus?

That city has done nothing but grow in the last 10 years. Columbus to me is a pretty big success story.
 
2008-08-06 10:02:41 PM
Serves Ohio right. Karma.
 
2008-08-06 10:02:50 PM
I was also born in Ohio and grew up in Detroit. Jeepers.
 
2008-08-06 10:02:55 PM
FiestyIrishVixen: ...and I'm moving back to Buffalo in November.

hey upstate New Yorkers, remember when Hillary was going to save us all?


Nice. I used to live in Amherst.
 
2008-08-06 10:03:20 PM
Pittsburgh laughs in Cleveland's general direction
 
2008-08-06 10:03:23 PM
Uakronkid: My god. I'm SURROUNDED!

With Cleveland and Canton? You're part of it.

/used to live in Massilon.
 
2008-08-06 10:03:33 PM
Well, Canton, OH on the list...it's a sh**hole anyway
 
2008-08-06 10:03:38 PM
Isn't Ohio a big union labor state? How could their economy possibly be in peril with such sound labor policy?
 
2008-08-06 10:04:13 PM
Aar1012: Before I read the article let me guess the cities

1. Columbus
2. Toledo
3. Dayton
4. Cincinnati


I had Cleveland, Akron, Youngstown and Toledo. I wonder what's keeping Toledo going. 3 out of 4 ain't bad, if you count Canton as Akron.
 
2008-08-06 10:04:51 PM
"What are you doing here? I sent you to Cleveland."

"I should kill you for that alone."
 
2008-08-06 10:05:44 PM
If only Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young would write song about them...

/Surprised Cincinnati is not on the list
//I live there... um, here.
 
2008-08-06 10:06:14 PM
poopalacarte: Serves Ohio right. Karma.

I'm voting McCain just because of that comment... and because Obama's a Muslim.
 
2008-08-06 10:06:30 PM
biobob: Wrong on 3 of them. You can read the article and find out for yourself, but I am curious, why did you put Columbus?

That city has done nothing but grow in the last 10 years. Columbus to me is a pretty big success story.


if I can add my $0.02...

you're right and you're wrong. Columbus has been a glowing pinnacle of non-manufacturing-based commerce in ohio, where all the other cities have grown up on industry.

the downside is, the town is the state capital, so there's quite a lot of state government there. any other city in ohio would look different.

and Columbus is experiencing horrendous sprawl.

and my friend in columbus constantly biatches about the lack of culture, which I agree, seems queerly absent.

but all in all, I'd rather live in columbus than toledo. Toledo sucks on ice, I'd no sooner murder half the people in this town, than pack up and frickin leave.
 
2008-08-06 10:08:43 PM
Dayton, checking in here.

The death rattle of this city routinely shakes my windows at night. Parts of Dayton are starting to come up abandoned, especially the industrial centers.

The city's pretty much hosed without some innovative new strategies.
 
2008-08-06 10:08:46 PM
DamnYankees: Is this really important? There will always be parts of a country which are growing and parts which are dying. Industry and society fluctuates.


I'm with you man, compassion is for the weak.
 
2008-08-06 10:09:07 PM
jn1512: If only Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young would write song about them...

/Surprised Cincinnati is not on the list
//I live there... um, here.


I was surprised Cincinnati didn't make it as well. It does seem to be growing well if you count West Chester and the other suburbs. Especially if you count Northern Kentucky. Plus downtown is at times starting to show signs of life.

I am still surprised it didn't make it though.
 
2008-08-06 10:09:26 PM
yea ohio! i knew we were good for something!
/lives close to canton
//drives through youngstown alot
///never wants to go to cleveland
 
2008-08-06 10:09:31 PM
As an original Michigander, mmbubye.
 
2008-08-06 10:09:42 PM
Send them all to....Detroit

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 
2008-08-06 10:09:51 PM
I have lived in all of those cities... hmmmm
 
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