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2008-07-31 01:55:35 PM
Which, ironically, is a negative ad.
 
2008-07-31 02:21:22 PM
gustakooka: Which, ironically, is a negative ad.

While I fundamentally agree with that, what the ad says is also true.
 
2008-07-31 02:55:49 PM
BA-zing!

It is true to some extent. In the past 2 weeks, McCain's mouthpieces have said the most outlandish shiat.
 
2008-07-31 02:58:39 PM
gustakooka: Which, ironically, is a negative ad.

Does that somehow negate the truthfulness of the ad?
 
2008-07-31 03:04:17 PM
gustakooka: Which, ironically, is a negative ad.

Not ironic. Negative ads are not, by definition, disrepectful or uncivil.
 
2008-07-31 03:06:21 PM
Notice 2 things...

1) The ad doesn't feature any footage of said "attacks"
2) Obama does not express his approval of this ad

Just a little food for thought. Make of it what you will.
 
2008-07-31 03:07:05 PM
Jesus, can we move the election up? I'm sick of this crap already.
 
2008-07-31 03:07:18 PM
He forgets stuff. ALL THE TIME.
 
2008-07-31 03:07:27 PM
wait, what's disrespectful or uncivil about comparing your opponent to pillars of American society the likes of Britney Spears and Paris Hilton?
 
2008-07-31 03:07:29 PM
My favorite McCain ad is the one that says Obama is responsible for high oil prices. Fair enough he is against drilling in the United States, and says no increased offshore drilling, but responsible for current prices?
 
2008-07-31 03:07:37 PM
Meanwhile, Obama accused McCain of being a racist.

"Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they're going to try to do is make you scared of me," Obama said. "You know, `he's not patriotic enough, he's got a funny name,' you know, `he doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.'"
 
2008-07-31 03:08:09 PM
I hate Chevy: He forgets stuff. ALL THE TIME.


It's hard to keep up when your positions are constantly changing.
 
2008-07-31 03:08:39 PM
Why would the Republicans abandon one of their most successful tactics?

Whether you agree with them or not, negative attack ads were used to great effect in 2000 and 2004. Get a bunch of Madison Ave. hacks on the payroll. let them do focus groups, find hot buttons, and then turn 'em loose on the airwaves.

The Democrats have been playing catch up in that department for a while...


though I'm not sure how effective the Republicans will be with that tactic this time around. Who knows, though?
 
2008-07-31 03:08:40 PM
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There, there Barack. Go inflate your car tires and you will feel better...
 
2008-07-31 03:08:41 PM
gustakooka: Which, ironically, is a negative ad.

Do you see a difference in an ad featuring Obama being portrayed with Paris and Birtney and this ad where it shows that McCain said he would run an honorable campaign and now is clearly not?
 
2008-07-31 03:09:42 PM
helix400: Meanwhile, Obama accused McCain of being a racist.

"Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they're going to try to do is make you scared of me," Obama said. "You know, `he's not patriotic enough, he's got a funny name,' you know, `he doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.'"


obama's such an elitist, he's never even seen a dollar bill to know that there's only one president on it. now i'm scared of him.
 
2008-07-31 03:10:11 PM
In another shocking turn of events, Obama trots out the "They're going to make race a factor" message again once he sees he's slipping in the polls... just like in the primaries.

Nobody talks about race
Obama says they're going to make it about race
The media gets a hard-on about race
Obama says I told you they'll make it about race
 
2008-07-31 03:10:51 PM
soy_bomb: There, there Barack. Go inflate your car tires and you will feel better...

This was a DNC ad not from the Obama campaign.

Also you are idiot.
 
2008-07-31 03:11:54 PM
Mighty Taternuts: soy_bomb: There, there Barack. Go inflate your car tires and you will feel better...

This was a DNC ad not from the Obama campaign.

Also you are an idiot.


I guess your idiocy is contagious.
 
2008-07-31 03:12:08 PM
keylock71:

Why would the Republicans abandon one of their most successful tactics?

Whether you agree with them or not, negative attack ads were used to great effect in 2000 and 2004. Get a bunch of Madison Ave. hacks on the payroll. let them do focus groups, find hot buttons, and then turn 'em loose on the airwaves.

The Democrats have been playing catch up in that department for a while...


though I'm not sure how effective the Republicans will be with that tactic this time around. Who knows, though?


So far, so good
 
2008-07-31 03:12:14 PM
Paid for and authorized by the Democratic National Committee.
This communication is not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.


Wait, what?
 
2008-07-31 03:12:20 PM
Mighty Taternuts: Also you are idiot

Ew, getting snippy aren't we, Internet tough guy.

/ZZZZZzzzzz.....
 
2008-07-31 03:13:57 PM
i208.photobucket.com

Obama is presumptuous thinking he's already president. Who does he think he is? I'm John McCain and I approved this message.
 
2008-07-31 03:14:03 PM
McCain will be the next president, no matter how he chooses to run his campaign. He can just phone it in if he wants.

It's sad but true.

I might be moving over to the Jeremy Bates end of the political spectrum.
 
2008-07-31 03:14:53 PM
HotWingConspiracy: McCain will be the next president, no matter how he chooses to run his campaign. He can just phone it in if he wants.

It's sad but true.


Gosh, you sound so "concerned".
 
2008-07-31 03:15:39 PM
Theaetetus: Wait, what?

DNC != Obama's election committee. It's for the party as a whole.
 
2008-07-31 03:15:39 PM
Good job DNC (for once), hope to see more ads like this that hold McCain responsible.

Right now McCain is running negative ads that completely lie about Obama's position. Even some of them McCain attacks Obama for the exact same position that McCain has himself.

I used to respect McCain years ago, but now I think he is just pathetic. He gave up all the things he said he stood for up for power.
 
2008-07-31 03:16:09 PM
helix400: Meanwhile, Obama accused McCain of being a racist.

"Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they're going to try to do is make you scared of me," Obama said. "You know, `he's not patriotic enough, he's got a funny name,' you know, `he doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.'"


I didn't hear any accusation in that statement, in fact it's 100% true. Just because you guys don't run around calling him a lawn jockey does not mean you're not thinking it.
 
2008-07-31 03:16:42 PM
Mighty Taternuts: This was a DNC ad not from the Obama campaign.

Also you are idiot.



I'm sure the DNC is out running ads against the wishes of the DNC candidate.

Oslo your moran
 
2008-07-31 03:17:07 PM
HotWingConspiracy: McCain will be the next president, no matter how he chooses to run his campaign. He can just phone it in if he wants.

It's sad but true.


Yeah, McCain's totally destroying Obama in the electoral college maps done by fivethirtyeight and 270towin...oh wait, no he's not. Barack is.
 
2008-07-31 03:17:23 PM
cameroncrazy1984: DNC != Obama's election committee. It's for the party as a whole.

I know, but still, that type of distinction is pretty pedantic.
 
2008-07-31 03:17:36 PM
By now we all know not to trust a Republican...
 
2008-07-31 03:18:03 PM
Theaetetus: Paid for and authorized by the Democratic National Committee.
This communication is not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee.

Wait, what?


In other words, DNC party money went to this ad, not Obama's tens of millions of campaign dollars. Happens all the time. In fact, the RNC does this too, and most assuredly they're going to be doing a lot more of this from now till November simply because it's a lot more well-funded than the McCain campaign.

Not that it'll do them any good though.
 
2008-07-31 03:18:40 PM
Theaetetus: I know, but still, that type of distinction is pretty pedantic.

Actually, it's legally required.
 
2008-07-31 03:18:46 PM
MugzyBrown: In another shocking turn of events, Obama trots out the "They're going to make race a factor" message again once he sees he's slipping in the polls... just like in the primaries.

Yeah, nobody's accused Obama of being a sleeper Muslim. None at all.
 
2008-07-31 03:20:06 PM
helix400: Meanwhile, Obama accused McCain of being a racist.

"Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they're going to try to do is make you scared of me," Obama said. "You know, `he's not patriotic enough, he's got a funny name,' you know, `he doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.'"


Actually he's accusing them of pandering to racists. A bit different. And I don't think anyone reasonable could disagree.

/You probably disagree
 
2008-07-31 03:20:16 PM
Theaetetus: HotWingConspiracy: McCain will be the next president, no matter how he chooses to run his campaign. He can just phone it in if he wants.

It's sad but true.

Gosh, you sound so "concerned".


No, you've got me all wrong. I'm in the bag for Obama. I just have no faith in the rest of the nation. I think every crusty racist and uh.."capitalist" (poor people that are afraid of socialism or anything labeled as such) will be out in droves on election day.

Obama should win handily. But I don't think he will.
 
2008-07-31 03:20:33 PM
All of the Dem blogs I see, which are working with the Obama camp, went negative on McCain from day one. What with the "is he senile" stuff and all of that.

Obama is trying to pull a Bush, go negative through other people and claim that he himself is above it all.

Can't blame McCain for fighting back. That's politics.
 
2008-07-31 03:21:08 PM
mercator_psi: In other words, DNC party money went to this ad, not Obama's tens of millions of campaign dollars

This money wasn't supposed to exist at the DNC. At least that's why Obama said he was breaking his pledge on public financing.
 
2008-07-31 03:21:44 PM
Duke_Phillips: keylock71:

Why would the Republicans abandon one of their most successful tactics?

Whether you agree with them or not, negative attack ads were used to great effect in 2000 and 2004. Get a bunch of Madison Ave. hacks on the payroll. let them do focus groups, find hot buttons, and then turn 'em loose on the airwaves.

The Democrats have been playing catch up in that department for a while...


though I'm not sure how effective the Republicans will be with that tactic this time around. Who knows, though?

So far, so good



Yeah, like I said, it's an effective tactic... but a poll in July doesn't really mean much.

The electoral map is still pretty much in Obama's favor at this point.

But we'll see how it all turns out...
 
2008-07-31 03:23:38 PM
You have to be a moran, or this is your first POTUS election, to believe that any POTUS election will be respectful, civil.
 
2008-07-31 03:24:38 PM
How dare this ad state the obvious truth!
 
2008-07-31 03:25:52 PM
barneyfifesbullet: You have to be a moran, or this is your first POTUS election, to believe that any POTUS election will be respectful, civil.

So why did McCain promise a civil election?
 
2008-07-31 03:25:55 PM
barneyfifesbullet: You have to be a moran, or this is your first POTUS election, to believe that any POTUS election will be respectful, civil.

Given that, McCain's promise to keep it respectful and civil seems a bit short sighted. Or a it was a lie, or as you said, he's a moran.
 
2008-07-31 03:26:15 PM
Cataholic: mercator_psi: In other words, DNC party money went to this ad, not Obama's tens of millions of campaign dollars

This money wasn't supposed to exist at the DNC. At least that's why Obama said he was breaking his pledge on public financing.


Well, they have some money, just not oodles and oodles of it like the Obama campaign does, or the RNC for that matter. I'm glad they spent what little they had on something like this. It needed to be said.
 
2008-07-31 03:26:17 PM
cameroncrazy1984: Yeah, McCain's totally destroying Obama in the electoral college maps done by fivethirtyeight and 270towin...oh wait, no he's not. Barack is.

img385.imageshack.us
Shoot then we don't need to wait for November. Barack is already the President.
 
2008-07-31 03:27:15 PM
 
2008-07-31 03:28:03 PM
HotWingConspiracy: Theaetetus: HotWingConspiracy: McCain will be the next president, no matter how he chooses to run his campaign. He can just phone it in if he wants.

It's sad but true.

Gosh, you sound so "concerned".

No, you've got me all wrong. I'm in the bag for Obama. I just have no faith in the rest of the nation. I think every crusty racist and uh.."capitalist" (poor people that are afraid of socialism or anything labeled as such) will be out in droves on election day.

Obama should win handily. But I don't think he will.


So the refutation of you being a concern troll is apparently more concern trolling? Uh, okay.
 
2008-07-31 03:28:23 PM
helix400: Meanwhile, Obama accused McCain of being a racist.

"Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they're going to try to do is make you scared of me," Obama said. "You know, `he's not patriotic enough, he's got a funny name,' you know, `he doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.'"


He's not calling Bush and McCain racist; he's suggesting that they're appealing to some people's racist sensibilites. It's a subtle distiction.
 
2008-07-31 03:29:17 PM
www.760kfmb.com

You want a F*CKING respectful campaign?

I'LL SHOW YOU MY F*CKING RESPECTFUL CAMPAIGN!
 
2008-07-31 03:29:28 PM
Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Notice 2 things...

1) The ad doesn't feature any footage of said "attacks"
2) Obama does not express his approval of this ad

Just a little food for thought. Make of it what you will.


Why repeat the opposition's message, doing their job for them? That frames part of the debate in their terms.
 
2008-07-31 03:30:45 PM
Abner Doon: HotWingConspiracy: Theaetetus: HotWingConspiracy: McCain will be the next president, no matter how he chooses to run his campaign. He can just phone it in if he wants.

It's sad but true.

Gosh, you sound so "concerned".

No, you've got me all wrong. I'm in the bag for Obama. I just have no faith in the rest of the nation. I think every crusty racist and uh.."capitalist" (poor people that are afraid of socialism or anything labeled as such) will be out in droves on election day.

Obama should win handily. But I don't think he will.

So the refutation of you being a concern troll is apparently more concern trolling? Uh, okay.


Dude, not everyone who is pessimistic about the American People is a concern troll. I think, in a completely fair election, Obama would win. Probably by less than he should in a sane country, but enough to get the presidency. Basically I think it depends on how nasty the Republican attacks get and on how much the vote gets farked with.
 
2008-07-31 03:30:52 PM
barneyfifesbullet: All of the Dem blogs I see, which are working with the Obama camp, went negative on McCain from day one. What with the "is he senile" stuff and all of that.

Obama is trying to pull a Bush, go negative through other people and claim that he himself is above it all.

Can't blame McCain for fighting back. That's politics.


Dem blogs are working with Obama? Like, Obama is like "Hey, come here, Daily Kos, have I got a juicy headline: 'McCain is old!' Don't tell them it was me"? Really?
 
2008-07-31 03:31:03 PM
Abner Doon: HotWingConspiracy: Theaetetus: HotWingConspiracy: McCain will be the next president, no matter how he chooses to run his campaign. He can just phone it in if he wants.

It's sad but true.

Gosh, you sound so "concerned".

No, you've got me all wrong. I'm in the bag for Obama. I just have no faith in the rest of the nation. I think every crusty racist and uh.."capitalist" (poor people that are afraid of socialism or anything labeled as such) will be out in droves on election day.

Obama should win handily. But I don't think he will.

So the refutation of you being a concern troll is apparently more concern trolling? Uh, okay.


Whatever, brah. Anyone who knows my posts knows the deal. This site has warped people's ability to discern bullshiat from real shiat.
 
2008-07-31 03:31:32 PM
Forty-Two: helix400: Meanwhile, Obama accused McCain of being a racist.

"Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they're going to try to do is make you scared of me," Obama said. "You know, `he's not patriotic enough, he's got a funny name,' you know, `he doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.'"

He's not calling Bush and McCain racist; he's suggesting that they're appealing to some people's racist sensibilites. It's a subtle distiction.


Subtlety is for elitists and socialists. Only an ivory tower intellectual would go in for that commie crap.
 
2008-07-31 03:31:42 PM
Hobodeluxe:

i208.photobucket.com

Obama is presumptuous thinking he's already president. Who does he think he is? I'm John McCain and I approved this message.


rofl.wheresthebeef.co.uk
 
2008-07-31 03:32:00 PM
WTF??!?!?

No 'Pancakes'?
You guys are slipping.

/On sweet delicious syrup.
//You know what else goes good with Pancakes? BACON!
///Therefore, I might have to rethink my support of Obama
 
2008-07-31 03:32:42 PM
he doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.'

bills? thats not change.
 
2008-07-31 03:32:49 PM
cameroncrazy1984: HotWingConspiracy: McCain will be the next president, no matter how he chooses to run his campaign. He can just phone it in if he wants.

It's sad but true.

Yeah, McCain's totally destroying Obama in the electoral college maps done by fivethirtyeight and 270towin...oh wait, no he's not. Barack is.


Did I miss the vote?
 
2008-07-31 03:33:11 PM
McCain makes promises he has no intention of keeping? I am shocked.
 
2008-07-31 03:33:50 PM
barneyfifesbullet: You have to be a moran, or this is your first POTUS election, to believe that any POTUS election will be respectful, civil.

Acyually it wan't until 1964 when the Daisy Ad premiered that negative ads came to be. Before then electioning was civil and respectful...
 
2008-07-31 03:35:35 PM
Dr.Zom: McCain makes promises pancakes he has no intention of keeping eating? I am shocked.

FTFE

(Fixed That For exparrot)
 
2008-07-31 03:39:15 PM
*sigh* Who in the hell made this? Really now. With all the things that McCain has said, on camera, you have to take news clippings attacking what he said and use them? Why not show him being negative IN the ad? Ya know to reinforce the thought that he's going back on his word?

Also, this doesn't seem to be an ad from the Obama campaign itself. I'm not sure it needs to have him say I approve the message.
 
2008-07-31 03:39:20 PM
Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Notice 2 things...

1) The ad doesn't feature any footage of said "attacks"
2) Obama does not express his approval of this ad

Just a little food for thought. Make of it what you will.


3) Barack Obama is black.

Make of it what you will.
 
2008-07-31 03:39:24 PM
MugzyBrown: In another shocking turn of events, Obama trots out the "They're going to make race a factor" message again once he sees he's slipping in the polls... just like in the primaries.

Nobody talks about race
Obama says they're going to make it about race
The media gets a hard-on about race
Obama says I told you they'll make it about race


You guys are trying sooooo hard to make that into some sort of story, its adorable.
 
2008-07-31 03:39:25 PM
mercator_psi: Well, they have some money, just not oodles and oodles of it like the Obama campaign does, or the RNC for that matter. I'm glad they spent what little they had on something like this. It needed to be said.

You're right. It's the Unions that have the $300 million ready to go for Obama. The DNC only raises a paltry $20 million per month.
 
2008-07-31 03:39:36 PM
keylock71: Why would the Republicans abandon one of their most successful tactics?

Whether you agree with them or not, negative attack ads were used to great effect in 2000 and 2004.


And 1996. And 1992. And 1988. And 1984. And 1980. And 1976. And 1972. And 1968. And especially, especially 1964.

And so on... in every country ever, since we came out of the trees.
 
2008-07-31 03:39:59 PM
WaltzingMathilda: UGH! When will that uppity negro concede???? (new window)

WTF? That site is still up?
 
2008-07-31 03:40:32 PM
The First:

Acyually it wan't until 1964 when the Daisy Ad premiered that negative ads came to be. Before then electioning was civil and respectful...


The election of 1800 is considered the nastiest in US history.
 
2008-07-31 03:41:56 PM
Nestea Plunge: I didn't hear any accusation in that statement, in fact it's 100% true. Just because you guys don't run around calling him a lawn jockey does not mean you're not thinking it.

RemyDuron: And I don't think anyone reasonable could disagree.

/You probably disagree


Huh. I point out that Obama said McCain is a racist and/or supports racism. Instead of condemning Obama, I'm accused of being a racist and unreasonable.

I think the "Welcome to Fark" graphic would be appropriate right about now.
 
2008-07-31 03:42:06 PM
The First: barneyfifesbullet: You have to be a moran, or this is your first POTUS election, to believe that any POTUS election will be respectful, civil.

Acyually it wan't until 1964 when the Daisy Ad premiered that negative ads came to be. Before then electioning was civil and respectful...


The 1800 election was pretty dirty.

But not quite like this...

www.marriedtothesea.com
 
2008-07-31 03:42:08 PM
 
2008-07-31 03:42:15 PM
I guess if Oabam'd kept HIS word to use the public money for the General Election, as he agreed to do with McCain, the Dems' complaint would make a little sense.

As it stands, it's bullshiat.
 
2008-07-31 03:42:24 PM
Biff_Steel: WaltzingMathilda: UGH! When will that uppity negro concede???? (new window)

WTF? That site is still up?


That's hilarious. "Quick, Obama, concede before you realize you can't win and yet Hillary can!! COME ON!! If you do, you'll be VICE PRESIDENT!!"

Good grief.
 
2008-07-31 03:44:14 PM
Hang On Voltaire: The election of 1800 is considered the nastiest in US history.

How so?
 
2008-07-31 03:45:08 PM
Biff_Steel: WaltzingMathilda: UGH! When will that uppity negro concede???? (new window)

WTF? That site is still up?


True Americans never give up the fight. WWTJD?
 
2008-07-31 03:45:22 PM
Could have done a little better in the technical department.
 
2008-07-31 03:45:30 PM
OttoDog: I guess if Oabam'd kept HIS word to use the public money for the General Election, as he agreed to do with McCain, the Dems' complaint would make a little sense.

As it stands, it's bullshiat.


Yes, that EXACTLY the same thing.
 
2008-07-31 03:45:49 PM
Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Notice 2 things...

1) The ad doesn't feature any footage of said "attacks"
2) Obama does not express his approval of this ad

Just a little food for thought. Make of it what you will.


Okay. Absolutely nothing. Because saying "b-b-b-but there's not any footage" does not disprove it. We all know it's true and you're clearly desperate for some reason to discredit the ad. While negative in itself (ironically) it's also completely true, which makes it different than McCain's ads.

/nitwit
 
2008-07-31 03:46:13 PM
Your Faith is Creepy

Dr.Zom: McCain makes promises pancakes he has no intention of keeping eating? I am shocked.

FTFE

(Fixed That For exparrot)


Not surprising, McCain seems more like a waffle guy to me.
 
2008-07-31 03:46:32 PM
Before then electioning was civil and respectful...

I can't tell if you are being joking or serious, so I will just say the following:

Ma, ma, where's my pa?
 
2008-07-31 03:47:42 PM
barneyfifesbullet: You have to be a moran, or this is your first POTUS election, to believe that any POTUS election will be respectful, civil.

You would think with the number of failed attempts at the Presidency he has under his belt that McCain at some point would have learned not to promise a civil election, and have his wife make that same promise.
 
2008-07-31 03:48:00 PM
The First: Hang On Voltaire: The election of 1800 is considered the nastiest in US history.

How so?


Wasn't that the one where McCain's opponent accused him of being a "callow youth, ne'er measured against the foment that shews the true measure of a man"?
 
2008-07-31 03:48:22 PM
OttoDog: I guess if Oabam'd kept HIS word to use the public money for the General Election, as he agreed to do with McCain, the Dems' complaint would make a little sense.

As it stands, it's bullshiat.


He said he would negotiate with the Republican candidate to use public money. McCain didn't want to negotiate, because he had to use public money due to a loan he got (which used public financing as collateral) in order to keep his primary campaign afloat.

Obama's average donation is around $80. I'd say that he's pretty much publicly financed anyway.
 
2008-07-31 03:49:55 PM
Your Faith is Creepy: Wasn't that the one where McCain's opponent accused him of being a "callow youth, ne'er measured against the foment that shews the true measure of a man"?

I think that was 1796 election...
 
2008-07-31 03:49:56 PM
Your Faith is Creepy: The First: Hang On Voltaire: The election of 1800 is considered the nastiest in US history.

How so?

Wasn't that the one where McCain's opponent accused him of being a "callow youth, ne'er measured against the foment that shews the true measure of a man"?


Thread over, everyone go home.
 
2008-07-31 03:50:11 PM
helix400: Nestea Plunge: I didn't hear any accusation in that statement, in fact it's 100% true. Just because you guys don't run around calling him a lawn jockey does not mean you're not thinking it.

RemyDuron: And I don't think anyone reasonable could disagree.

/You probably disagree

Huh. I point out that Obama said McCain is a racist and/or supports racism. Instead of condemning Obama, I'm accused of being a racist and unreasonable.

I think the "Welcome to Fark" graphic would be appropriate right about now.


Well, I'm not going to condem Obama for the reason is that even in the quote Obama didn't call McCain a racist. He directed it to the whole opposition, were in fact they are pandering to peoples fears of him being/looking different. (see circulated pictures of obama in African musilim garb co-inciding with secret muslim e-mails.)
 
2008-07-31 03:50:12 PM
vernonFL: he doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.'

bills? thats not change.


HA
 
2008-07-31 03:50:49 PM
The election of 1800 was McCain's 3rd election victory.
 
2008-07-31 03:51:17 PM
cameroncrazy1984: Obama's average donation is around $80. I'd say that he's pretty much publicly financed anyway.

To be fair, average is not a very telling number. The mean would be better.

If you dig into his numbers, he is more publicly financed than any candidate in history. But he is not "pretty much publicly financed".
 
2008-07-31 03:51:25 PM
Jim_Callahan: keylock71: Why would the Republicans abandon one of their most successful tactics?

Whether you agree with them or not, negative attack ads were used to great effect in 2000 and 2004.

And 1996. And 1992. And 1988. And 1984. And 1980. And 1976. And 1972. And 1968. And especially, especially 1964.

And so on... in every country ever, since we came out of the trees.


Agreed... didn't think I needed to go back farther than 2000 to prove the point. Also didn't mention the use of push-polling, narrow casting, and "branding"...
 
2008-07-31 03:51:27 PM
I'd say that he's pretty much publicly financed anyway.

By "Public" of course you're including the money he took from Indiana Muslim PAC during his Senate Campaign that he war-chested and later spent on his Presidential campaign, right?
 
2008-07-31 03:51:39 PM
We get it soy_bomb

You don't like Obama and hate your country.
 
2008-07-31 03:51:55 PM
McCain is losing?

Hmm. I don't believe any votes have been cast one way or the other yet.

Crying about mud slinging is funny coming from all the asshats who say McSame, Pancakes, and make age jokes.
 
2008-07-31 03:52:10 PM
Cubicle Jockey: Ma, ma, where's my pa?

Off to the White House ha ha ha?
 
2008-07-31 03:52:36 PM
Is it me or is anyone else annoyed that Barack is playing the race card when no one else is?

Everyone that opposes me is a racist!

I don't look like George Washington (No shiat Sherlock)

Basically he is saying that those who oppose him will throw out every attack they can...and here let me do it for them.
 
2008-07-31 03:52:47 PM
danlpoon: I'd say that he's pretty much publicly financed anyway.

By "Public" of course you're including the money he took from Indiana Muslim PAC during his Senate Campaign that he war-chested and later spent on his Presidential campaign, right?


And this is a problem why exactly?

Don't you like the mooslims?
 
2008-07-31 03:53:18 PM
helix400: Huh. I point out that Obama said McCain is a racist and/or supports racism.

You said Obama called McCain a racist. You added the "or supports racism" just now but it's pretty easy to scroll up and view your original post in its entirety, and I always question the motives of people who try to rewrite history and hope nobody will notice.
 
2008-07-31 03:53:26 PM
Shrugging Atlas: You would think with the number of failed attempts at the Presidency he has under his belt that McCain at some point would have learned not to promise a civil election, and have his wife make that same promise.

In fairness, she was totally pilled out when she slurred that.

/too mean?
//she deserved to go to jail for the meds she stole
 
2008-07-31 03:54:07 PM
Desperate times call for desperation.
 
2008-07-31 03:54:09 PM
Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Notice 2 things...

1) The ad doesn't feature any footage of said "attacks"
2) Obama does not express his approval of this ad

Just a little food for thought. Make of it what you will.


Why would the DNC want to replay negative McCain soundbytes? Why give them more exposure than they deserve? It's a marketing strategy. If others are playing McCain's disastrous message and ripping it to shreds, why give it more traction? Just play the negative feedback.

The point of the ad was not to address McCain's claims; the point was to show the contrast in McCain's campaign styles.

/Not troll
//Not flame
///Just sayin
 
2008-07-31 03:54:11 PM
The election of 1800 was McCain's 3rd election victoryloss

FIFY
 
2008-07-31 03:54:22 PM
cartersdad: Is it me or is anyone else annoyed that Barack is playing the race card when no one else is?

No one else is? Pull your head out of the sand.
 
2008-07-31 03:55:27 PM
The First: Hang On Voltaire: The election of 1800 is considered the nastiest in US history.

How so?


I think thugs on either side used to tell voters the wrong places to vote and there were bar fights and stuff over who would get elected.

Our internet bickering makes us looks like pussies in comparison.
 
2008-07-31 03:55:37 PM
bartink: cameroncrazy1984: Obama's average donation is around $80. I'd say that he's pretty much publicly financed anyway.

To be fair, average is not a very telling number. The mean would be better.

If you dig into his numbers, he is more publicly financed than any candidate in history. But he is not "pretty much publicly financed".


I'm assuming you mean "median" since mean=average. That or I want my money back from my statistics class. :)
 
2008-07-31 03:56:38 PM
bartink: Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Notice 2 things...

1) The ad doesn't feature any footage of said "attacks"
2) Obama does not express his approval of this ad

Just a little food for thought. Make of it what you will.

3) Barack Obama is black.

Make of it what you will.


www.bettymills.com

How's that, do I win?
 
2008-07-31 03:56:43 PM
danlpoon: I'd say that he's pretty much publicly financed anyway.

By "Public" of course you're including the money he took from Indiana Muslim PAC during his Senate Campaign that he war-chested and later spent on his Presidential campaign, right?


You don't think Muslim Americans are allowed to participate in our system? HE represented them.

I think you don't understadn what America is about, my friend.
 
2008-07-31 03:57:33 PM
Mighty Taternuts: I think thugs on either side used to tell voters the wrong places to vote and there were bar fights and stuff over who would get elected.

Our internet bickering makes us looks like pussies in comparison.



At least this way we can be in our undies, drinking beer.
 
2008-07-31 03:57:39 PM
purple helmet: McCain is losing?

Hmm. I don't believe any votes have been cast one way or the other yet.

Crying about mud slinging is funny coming from all the asshats who say McSame, Pancakes, and make age jokes.


McCain, I would hope, would be above the level of Farksters.
 
2008-07-31 03:57:56 PM
danlpoon: I'd say that he's pretty much publicly financed anyway.

By "Public" of course you're including the money he took from Indiana Muslim PAC during his Senate Campaign that he war-chested and later spent on his Presidential campaign, right?


You're going to go through this again? Really? Because I'm sure you have proof that he saved $100 from his Senate campaign in 2004 just so he could spend it in 2008. When he raised $50 million in June alone. Yeah, that's totally a plausible argument.
 
2008-07-31 03:58:24 PM
RadioAaron: Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Notice 2 things...

1) The ad doesn't feature any footage of said "attacks"
2) Obama does not express his approval of this ad

Just a little food for thought. Make of it what you will.

Why would the DNC want to replay negative McCain soundbytes?


Because some people may not have seen/heard them and have no way of knowing what the ad is talking about?
 
2008-07-31 03:58:57 PM
All2morrowsparTs: I'm assuming you mean "median" since mean=average. That or I want my money back from my statistics class. :)

Whoopsy. Thats exactly what I meant.
 
2008-07-31 03:59:27 PM
RadioAaron: Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Notice 2 things...

1) The ad doesn't feature any footage of said "attacks"
2) Obama does not express his approval of this ad

Just a little food for thought. Make of it what you will.

Why would the DNC want to replay negative McCain soundbytes? Why give them more exposure than they deserve? It's a marketing strategy. If others are playing McCain's disastrous message and ripping it to shreds, why give it more traction? Just play the negative feedback.

The point of the ad was not to address McCain's claims; the point was to show the contrast in McCain's campaign styles.

/Not troll
//Not flame
///Just sayin


Reason? Logic? IN MY FARK.COM???
 
2008-07-31 04:00:26 PM
bartink: All2morrowsparTs: I'm assuming you mean "median" since mean=average. That or I want my money back from my statistics class. :)

Whoopsy. Thats exactly what I meant.


Wouldn't we know what the median donation is since the cap is at $2,300 per person?
 
2008-07-31 04:01:06 PM
Mighty Taternuts: The First: Hang On Voltaire: The election of 1800 is considered the nastiest in US history.

How so?

I think thugs on either side used to tell voters the wrong places to vote and there were bar fights and stuff over who would get elected.



Our internet bickering makes us looks like pussies in comparison.


Meh, elections were like that right up onto the 20th century.

There'd be guys with full beards, a campaign worker would grab the guy, make him vote, shave his beard, make him vote again, shave his mustache off, make him vote again, shave his sideburns, make him vote again.


Read about the real Tammany Hall Democrats, (as opposed to the Leo movie), they had election fraud down to a science.
 
2008-07-31 04:01:07 PM
WaltzingMathilda:
Reason? Logic? IN MY FARK.COM???


Gonna make some beats?
 
2008-07-31 04:02:47 PM
You don't think Muslim Americans are allowed to participate in our system? HE represented them.

It's fine with me. Barack Obama can buy Burkhas and Dynamite with their donations as far as I'm concerned. Money wasted is money wasted no matter how its wasted.

Because I'm sure you have proof

I have proof Barcl Obama took money from INDIANA MUSLIM PAC and that he brought a war chest to his Presidential campaign. What else do you need?
 
2008-07-31 04:03:38 PM
I'm assuming you mean "median" since mean=average. That or I want my money back from my statistics class. :)

Yeah, that threw me for a loop as well. And wouldn't the median be an even smaller number then $80?

$10, $10, $10, $10, $20, $20, $480

Mean = $80
Median = $10
Mode = $10
 
2008-07-31 04:04:33 PM
danlpoon: You don't think Muslim Americans are allowed to participate in our system? HE represented them.

It's fine with me. Barack Obama can buy Burkhas and Dynamite with their donations as far as I'm concerned. Money wasted is money wasted no matter how its wasted.

Because I'm sure you have proof

I have proof Barcl Obama took money from INDIANA MUSLIM PAC and that he brought a war chest to his Presidential campaign. What else do you need?



You're either a hack or some sort of a moran. Which is it?
 
2008-07-31 04:05:08 PM
I have proof Barcl Obama took money from INDIANA MUSLIM PAC and that he brought a war chest to his Presidential campaign. What else do you need?

Sorry I mis-spelled 'Barack'.

Redo. have proof Barack Obama took money from INDIANA MUSLIM PAC and that he brought a war chest to his Presidential campaign. What else do you need?
 
2008-07-31 04:05:30 PM
danlpoon: You don't think Muslim Americans are allowed to participate in our system? HE represented them.

It's fine with me. Barack Obama can buy Burkhas and Dynamite with their donations as far as I'm concerned. Money wasted is money wasted no matter how its wasted.

Because I'm sure you have proof

I have proof Barcl Obama took money from INDIANA MUSLIM PAC and that he brought a war chest to his Presidential campaign. What else do you need?


Where is your "proof", tough guy?
 
2008-07-31 04:05:39 PM
Cubicle Jockey: I'm assuming you mean "median" since mean=average. That or I want my money back from my statistics class. :)

Yeah, that threw me for a loop as well. And wouldn't the median be an even smaller number then $80?

$10, $10, $10, $10, $20, $20, $480

Mean = $80
Median = $10
Mode = $10


Standard deviation? Outliers?
 
2008-07-31 04:05:53 PM
Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Because some people may not have seen/heard them and have no way of knowing what the ad is talking about?

Which is precisely the point of the ad and my point overall. You don't need to know what he said, you just need to know that he promised one campaign style and delivered another, and the one he delivered is less desirable than the one promised.
 
2008-07-31 04:06:59 PM
CitizenReserveCorps: Cubicle Jockey: I'm assuming you mean "median" since mean=average. That or I want my money back from my statistics class. :)

Yeah, that threw me for a loop as well. And wouldn't the median be an even smaller number then $80?

$10, $10, $10, $10, $20, $20, $480

Mean = $80
Median = $10
Mode = $10

Standard deviation? Outliers?


Stop it, you guys. I'll have nightmares tonight because of this. I've tried to purge this stuff from my memory ages ago.
 
2008-07-31 04:07:09 PM
You're either a hack or some sort of a moran. Which is it?

Of all the great ideas floating around your tiny head this was the best you could do?

"What are you some kinda Moe-ron".

Genius post. Keep it up.
 
2008-07-31 04:08:02 PM
Where is your "proof", tough guy?

What'll ya give me?
 
2008-07-31 04:08:13 PM
The election of 1800 is considered the nastiest in US history.

Back then they used to get people really drunk or poison them and kidnap them and have them vote more than once.

/Its called cooping, and its illegal.
 
2008-07-31 04:08:17 PM
I love that this thread has several people outraged that Obama would suggest that those opposed to him would use racism and xenophobia to attack him, followed by a guy yelling "He took money from an INDIANA MUSLIM PAC" over and over.
 
2008-07-31 04:08:27 PM
danlpoon: Where is your "proof", tough guy?

What'll ya give me?


Where's your proof, bub?
 
2008-07-31 04:08:44 PM
Hideously Gigantic Smurf: RadioAaron: Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Notice 2 things...

1) The ad doesn't feature any footage of said "attacks"
2) Obama does not express his approval of this ad

Just a little food for thought. Make of it what you will.

Why would the DNC want to replay negative McCain soundbytes?

Because some people may not have seen/heard them and have no way of knowing what the ad is talking about?


Well, this, plus the title of the ad kinda indicates that the McCain campaign has become so desperate that they have pretty much given up now and have just resorted to the strategy of baseless mud slinging and outright lying, 24/7.

Which is true.
 
2008-07-31 04:09:07 PM
danlpoon: Where is your "proof", tough guy?

What'll ya give me?


I have a buddy who is a Nigerian prince who would like to transfer you $10,000,000 in exchange for this information.
 
2008-07-31 04:09:09 PM
danlpoon: Redo. have proof Barack Obama took money from INDIANA MUSLIM PAC and that he brought a war chest to his Presidential campaign. What else do you need?

Don't tell us, tell Fox. You'll reach more partisan shrills that way.
 
2008-07-31 04:10:37 PM
FuriousGeorge945: I love that this thread has several people outraged that Obama would suggest that those opposed to him would use racism and xenophobia to attack him, followed by a guy yelling "He took money from an INDIANA MUSLIM PAC" over and over.

i177.photobucket.com
 
2008-07-31 04:10:50 PM
Have proof Barack Obama took money from INDIANA MUSLIM PAC and that he brought a war chest to his Presidential campaign.

Republicans, the whole "Muslims are evil!!" thing isn't your best look.
 
2008-07-31 04:10:56 PM
Nestea Plunge: danlpoon: Where is your "proof", tough guy?

What'll ya give me?

Where's your proof, bub?



He can't produce proof that's in his head. See, kids, THIS is why you don't sniff glue.
 
2008-07-31 04:11:47 PM
Jesus, McCainDemocrat sure is angry today.
 
2008-07-31 04:12:24 PM
Republicans, the whole "Muslims are evil!!" thing isn't your best look.

Hey, it's the only way they can win...scare ppl into thinking the muslims are coming to rape and plunder.
 
2008-07-31 04:12:37 PM
I'll give you a hint.

Open Secrets
 
2008-07-31 04:13:14 PM
danlpoon: I have proof Barcl Obama took money from INDIANA MUSLIM PAC and that he brought a war chest to his Presidential campaign. What else do you need?

Sorry I mis-spelled 'Barack'.

Redo. have proof Barack Hussien Shamalamadingdong Sadaam Beelzebub Obama took money from INDIANA MUSLIM PAC and that he brought a war chest to his Presidential campaign. What else do you need?



FTFY there Spary
 
2008-07-31 04:13:39 PM
Danlpoon, normally I like to watch others ridicule you. It's fun for me to watch people crash these myths you posit. How about putting forth a suggested topic that cannot be easily debunked?

Link
 
2008-07-31 04:13:47 PM
www.drudgereport.com
 
2008-07-31 04:13:49 PM
Standard deviation? Outliers?

What do those have to do with MMM?

Mean = average
Median = middle number of sequence
Mode = most common number found in sequence

The only way the median would be larger then $80 would be if the total volume of contributions under $80.00 is larger then the total volume of contributions over $80.00.

Do you feel this is probable?
 
2008-07-31 04:14:08 PM
danlpoon: What'll ya give me?

The cockpunch you so deserve?
 
2008-07-31 04:14:24 PM
All2morrowsparTs: He directed it to the whole opposition, were in fact they are pandering to peoples fears of him being/looking different.

Hmm...I think you are correct. I had said what I did when I read this article which said Obama targeted McCain directly: "Obama argued Wednesday that President Bush and McCain will resort to scare tactics to maintain their hold on the White House because they have little else to offer voters." Then it followed up with the quote.

However, I think you are more correct than the the reporter is. Obama referred to the opposition ("they") in very broad terms.
 
2008-07-31 04:14:26 PM
danlpoon: I'd say that he's pretty much publicly financed anyway.

By "Public" of course you're including the money he took from Indiana Muslim PAC during his Senate Campaign that he war-chested and later spent on his Presidential campaign, right?


You mean Mike Tyson?

/request the mike tyson suite a the indianapolis canterbury hotel
 
2008-07-31 04:15:43 PM
palexc: Jesus, can we move the election up? I'm sick of this crap already.

Your suppose to pray to him, not ask him on fark.
 
2008-07-31 04:15:48 PM
danlpoon: What'll ya give me?

One brazillian dollar.
 
2008-07-31 04:16:13 PM
The First: Republicans, the whole "Muslims are evil!!" thing isn't your best look.

Hey, it's the only way they can win...scare ppl into thinking the muslims are coming to rape and plunder.


Well, they are, aren't they?
 
2008-07-31 04:16:47 PM
PeeWeePangolin: You don't like Obama and hate your country.

You obamaniacs are something. Now if you don't love Obama, you hate America. That's Ludachris.
 
2008-07-31 04:18:19 PM
WaltzingMathilda: The First: Republicans, the whole "Muslims are evil!!" thing isn't your best look.

Hey, it's the only way they can win...scare ppl into thinking the muslims are coming to rape and plunder.

Well, they are, aren't they?


That's beacuse of all the mid-west idgits who think anyone who doesn't look like them is the devil. Seriously, Republicans KNOW that using the scare tactic will always win. Until these rednecks think for themselves this cycle will never end.
 
2008-07-31 04:18:30 PM
DNC releases new ad, "Desperate Times," reminding viewers of the "respectful, civil" campaign John McCain promised and how he forgot about it when he started to lose

ORLY?

media.gallup.com
 
2008-07-31 04:19:02 PM
danlpoon: I'll give you a hint.

Open Secrets


Open Secrets, Indiana Muslim PAC. (new window)

Click "list recipients."

Indiana Muslim PAC Contributions to Federal Candidates

Carson, Andre (D-IN) $2,300
Ellison, Keith (D-MN) $750
Hill, Baron (D-IN) $2,300
Kucinich, Dennis J (D-OH) $100

i221.photobucket.com

Boy, that's 2 FAILs for you today. Care to try for the FAIL trifecta/hat trick?
 
2008-07-31 04:19:08 PM
McCainDemocrat got pretty much owned in the thread about the Politico link earlier today. He obviously hasn't been able to get the sand out of his bojingo yet.
 
2008-07-31 04:20:45 PM
MCCAIN IS A SECRET NAZI GYPSY WHO EATS BABIES AND HAS ACCEPTED MONEY FROM THE ZOMBIE CASTRO PAC TO MAKE THE UNITED STATES THE GET OFF MY LAWN STATES OF AMERICA

/and it's true because I put it in all caps and big letters
//pancakes
 
2008-07-31 04:21:00 PM
soy_bomb: You obamaniacs are something. Now if you don't love Obama, you hate America. That's Ludachris.

NO, I love the Constitution, therefore in post-Neocon America I therefore hate America.

The fact that you guys inappropriately distill everything down into these kinds of terms is WTF is wrong. You call BS when the roles are reversed without acknowledging the fact that you guys created this BS environment of false dichotomy.
 
2008-07-31 04:21:20 PM
McCainDemocrat.. ERRRRRRR... I mean danlpoon is mixing up Barack Obama with Rep. Andre Carson (D-IN), who was not only endorsed by Obama, but allegedly accepted money from a Muslim PAC for his campaign.

It also helps that Congressman Carson is, indeed, a Muslim.

There's no proof that Obama "warchested" PAC money from his Senate campaign.
 
2008-07-31 04:24:24 PM
Tarl3k: McCainDemocrat got pretty much owned in the thread about the Politico link earlier today.

Sound like every thread to me...
 
2008-07-31 04:24:26 PM
DNC releases new ad, "Desperate Times," reminding viewers of the "respectful, civil" campaign John McCain promised and how he forgot about it when he started to lose

ORLY?


Nod, McCain has been going crazy with his ads, especially here in the swing state of Colorado. I have seen 10 McCain ads for every Obama ad. Yet, he still hasn't caught Obama. Keep trying to win the election in July with far less funds than your opponent, let me know how that works out for you.
 
2008-07-31 04:24:36 PM
Ball Sack Obama: DNC releases new ad, "Desperate Times," reminding viewers of the "respectful, civil" campaign John McCain promised and how he forgot about it when he started to lose

ORLY?


Yep he is still losing, 45-44.
 
2008-07-31 04:25:39 PM
obzerver: palexc: Jesus, can we move the election up? I'm sick of this crap already.

Your suppose to pray to him, not ask him on fark.


No, you can't. You farkers elected Bush twice. I can only die for your sins once.

Done and done.

Your Lord and Master,
JFC
 
2008-07-31 04:26:08 PM
thomps: helix400: Meanwhile, Obama accused McCain of being a racist.

"Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they're going to try to do is make you scared of me," Obama said. "You know, `he's not patriotic enough, he's got a funny name,' you know, `he doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.'"

obama's such an elitist, he's never even seen a dollar bill to know that there's only one president on it. now i'm scared of him.


Washington (1$), Jefferson (2$), Lincoln (5$) Jackson (20$) and Grant (50$) disagree with you.

// dumbass
 
2008-07-31 04:26:11 PM
Ball Sack Obama: DNC releases new ad, "Desperate Times," reminding viewers of the "respectful, civil" campaign John McCain promised and how he forgot about it when he started to lose

ORLY?


You might notice the upward trend in the graph, i.e. "when he started to lose" being at the beginning of that. Thanks again, independent.
 
2008-07-31 04:29:02 PM
Ball Sack Obama: ORLY?

I used to wonder how stupid one has to be to think a national poll would be a better prediction of the Presidential election results than an Electoral College projection, but thanks to BSO I don't have to wonder anymore.
 
2008-07-31 04:34:28 PM
RsquaredW:

Uhh, calm down. He made a joke. Obama referred to other presidents on the dollar bills. So thomps joke was that Obama referred to multiple presidents being on the $1 bills.
 
2008-07-31 04:34:35 PM
Ok, ok. Let me revisit my attack on Danl's Poon. In turns out that Obama did in fact receive $100 (gasp!) from the Indiana Muslim PAC for his most recent Senate Campaign. Assuming that this $100 is part of the $122,456 he had left over after the campaign, it's a pittance compared to what he's been able to raise so far.
 
2008-07-31 04:36:22 PM
You're not looking carefully. It's there. Ask Cameron. I've lodged it in her ass a few times.

Keep looking. It's there.
 
2008-07-31 04:38:05 PM
RsquaredW: Washington (1$), Jefferson (2$), Lincoln (5$) Jackson (20$) and Grant (50$) disagree with you.

// dumbass


don't forget president franklin (100$)

//dumbass
 
2008-07-31 04:39:07 PM
helix400: RsquaredW:

Uhh, calm down. He made a joke. Obama referred to other presidents on the dollar bills. So thomps joke was that Obama referred to multiple presidents being on the $1 bills.


The best part was going through all the effort of typing out each president on each bill, in an effort to be pedantic, as though anyone with the ability to post in a message board didn't already know that.
 
2008-07-31 04:39:20 PM
RE: Ballsack's Gallup poll above.

In their last sample Gallup also magically found that the number of likely voters that were democrats and republicans was EXACTLY the same.

Anybody think in an age where the Republicans brand is somewhere between that of White Star Lines and the makers of the Hindenburg that equal distribution of likely nationally voters is possible?

It's farking polling malpractice.
 
2008-07-31 04:39:32 PM
RadioAaron: It also helps that Congressman Carson is, indeed, a Muslim.

He certainly dresses the part
blogs.dallasobserver.com
 
2008-07-31 04:39:58 PM
danlpoon: You're not looking carefully. It's there. Ask Cameron. I've lodged it in her ass a few times.

Keep looking. It's there.


This entire quote is pure gold when taken out of context.
 
2008-07-31 04:42:58 PM
danlpoon: You're not looking carefully. It's there. Ask Cameron. I've lodged it in her ass a few times.

Keep looking. It's there.


i78.photobucket.com

Keep traveling.
 
2008-07-31 04:45:20 PM
Wow, first time I've seen a "but but but... the 17th Century"!
 
2008-07-31 04:46:35 PM
OK, 18th century, but still.
 
2008-07-31 04:51:18 PM
danlpoon:
What else do you need?


I NEED ONE LESS danlpoon ON FARK.
 
2008-07-31 04:59:55 PM
Mighty Taternuts: Yep he is still losing, 45-44.

Statistical dead heat...
 
2008-07-31 05:04:15 PM
The Why Not Guy: I used to wonder how stupid one has to be to think a national poll would be a better prediction of the Presidential election results than an Electoral College projection, but thanks to BSO I don't have to wonder anymore.

Polls are only relevant to Democrats when they want to prove a point. Projections don't mean squat either... I'm sure you will agree when that turns around as well.
 
2008-07-31 05:09:55 PM
Hideously Gigantic Smurf

Notice 2 things...

1) The ad doesn't feature any footage of said "attacks"
2) Obama does not express his approval of this ad

Just a little food for thought. Make of it what you will.


I can make a hat, or a brooch, or a pterodactyl...

/It's always a good time for an Airplane quote.
 
2008-07-31 05:10:22 PM
I don't understand where this aversion to negative campaigning comes from. I would think the flaws of your opponent is very relevant when trying to get the vote of the average "independent voter." That said, there is nothing Osama can do between now and November short of abandoning just about all of his socialist platforms that would convince me to vote for him.
 
2008-07-31 05:14:19 PM
Darconix: hat said, there is nothing Osama can do between now and November short of abandoning just about all of his socialist platforms that would convince me to vote for him.

please tell me that was unintentional.
 
2008-07-31 05:17:51 PM
I've noticed that when a black Democrat runs, there is always an ad juxtaposing them with hot, white, young women.

I'm sure its just a biiiiiig coincidence.
 
2008-07-31 05:19:47 PM
not that i've actually seen any of these ads on tv yet, I love how all conservative negative ads are released by McCain rather than the GOP, and all the liberal negative ads are released by the DNC instead of Obama.
coincidence? I think not.
 
2008-07-31 06:19:27 PM
Hideously Gigantic Smurf: 1) The ad doesn't feature any footage of said "attacks"


Democrats could fu*k up a one-car parade. I kept waiting for a clip of McCain saying something damning and it never came. Jesus.
 
2008-07-31 06:46:10 PM
rush_limbaugh_sent_me: McCain is suppose to run pro-Obama campaign ads! .

Or something the McCain cultist's can think about:maybe McCain can run a pro-McCain add?
 
2008-07-31 07:22:31 PM
the biggest redneck here: Hideously Gigantic Smurf: 1) The ad doesn't feature any footage of said "attacks"


Democrats could fu*k up a one-car parade. I kept waiting for a clip of McCain saying something damning and it never came. Jesus.


Lemme help you there pardner

RadioAaron:

Why would the DNC want to replay negative McCain soundbytes? Why give them more exposure than they deserve? It's a marketing strategy. If others are playing McCain's disastrous message and ripping it to shreds, why give it more traction? Just play the negative feedback.

The point of the ad was not to address McCain's claims; the point was to show the contrast in McCain's campaign styles.

/Not troll
//Not flame
///Just sayin


That help ya? I know you're still quite concerned about the Dems ability to screw up though. Quite concerned.
 
2008-07-31 07:45:03 PM
helix400: Nestea Plunge: I didn't hear any accusation in that statement, in fact it's 100% true. Just because you guys don't run around calling him a lawn jockey does not mean you're not thinking it.

RemyDuron: And I don't think anyone reasonable could disagree.

/You probably disagree

Huh. I point out that Obama said McCain is a racist and/or supports racism. Instead of condemning Obama, I'm accused of being a racist and unreasonable.

I think the "Welcome to Fark" graphic would be appropriate right about now.


I never accused you of being racist, you seem rather sensitive about that.
 
2008-07-31 08:42:38 PM
The First
You're either a hack or some sort of a moran. Which is it?

never force an either/or onto a situation that may be best handled by a both/and.
 
2008-07-31 09:09:18 PM
All2morrowsparTs: rush_limbaugh_sent_me: McCain is suppose to run pro-Obama campaign ads! .

Or something the McCain cultist's can think about:maybe McCain can run a pro-McCain add?


You'd have to come up with some selling points first. Hence it's easier to go negative.
 
2008-07-31 10:01:23 PM
HotWingConspiracy: I might be moving over to the Jeremy Bates end of the political spectrum.

Either that, or you're moving over to the Normal Bates end of the sanity spectrum. ;)
 
2008-07-31 10:16:41 PM
CitizenReserveCorps: Cubicle Jockey: I'm assuming you mean "median" since mean=average. That or I want my money back from my statistics class. :)

Yeah, that threw me for a loop as well. And wouldn't the median be an even smaller number then $80?

$10, $10, $10, $10, $20, $20, $480

Mean = $80
Median = $10
Mode = $10

Standard deviation? Outliers?

I believe the outlier would be the 480
the standard deviation:
we have the mean = 80
then we have : 4*sqr((10-80)) + 2*sqr((20-80)) + sqr(480-80) =
19600+ 7200+160000 = 186800
that divided by 7 = 26685.714
sqr-root of that= 163.357
 
2008-08-01 11:55:10 AM
sonnyboy11: That help ya? I know you're still quite concerned about the Dems ability to screw up though. Quite concerned.

It's ridiculous, you can't just make claims and then not back them up somehow.

And yes, I am concerned. I don't want to see another GOP president. But keep making false assertions based on my nick, you certainly won't be alone in that one. Fact is, the dems consistently do fu*k up one-car parades.
 
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