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(Marketwatch)   DNC releases new ad, "Desperate Times," reminding viewers of the "respectful, civil" campaign John McCain promised and how he forgot about it when he started to lose   (marketwatch.com) divider line 191
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2008-07-31 03:54:09 PM
Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Notice 2 things...

1) The ad doesn't feature any footage of said "attacks"
2) Obama does not express his approval of this ad

Just a little food for thought. Make of it what you will.


Why would the DNC want to replay negative McCain soundbytes? Why give them more exposure than they deserve? It's a marketing strategy. If others are playing McCain's disastrous message and ripping it to shreds, why give it more traction? Just play the negative feedback.

The point of the ad was not to address McCain's claims; the point was to show the contrast in McCain's campaign styles.

/Not troll
//Not flame
///Just sayin
 
2008-07-31 03:54:11 PM
The election of 1800 was McCain's 3rd election victoryloss

FIFY
 
2008-07-31 03:54:22 PM
cartersdad: Is it me or is anyone else annoyed that Barack is playing the race card when no one else is?

No one else is? Pull your head out of the sand.
 
2008-07-31 03:55:27 PM
The First: Hang On Voltaire: The election of 1800 is considered the nastiest in US history.

How so?


I think thugs on either side used to tell voters the wrong places to vote and there were bar fights and stuff over who would get elected.

Our internet bickering makes us looks like pussies in comparison.
 
2008-07-31 03:55:37 PM
bartink: cameroncrazy1984: Obama's average donation is around $80. I'd say that he's pretty much publicly financed anyway.

To be fair, average is not a very telling number. The mean would be better.

If you dig into his numbers, he is more publicly financed than any candidate in history. But he is not "pretty much publicly financed".


I'm assuming you mean "median" since mean=average. That or I want my money back from my statistics class. :)
 
2008-07-31 03:56:38 PM
bartink: Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Notice 2 things...

1) The ad doesn't feature any footage of said "attacks"
2) Obama does not express his approval of this ad

Just a little food for thought. Make of it what you will.

3) Barack Obama is black.

Make of it what you will.


www.bettymills.com

How's that, do I win?
 
2008-07-31 03:56:43 PM
danlpoon: I'd say that he's pretty much publicly financed anyway.

By "Public" of course you're including the money he took from Indiana Muslim PAC during his Senate Campaign that he war-chested and later spent on his Presidential campaign, right?


You don't think Muslim Americans are allowed to participate in our system? HE represented them.

I think you don't understadn what America is about, my friend.
 
2008-07-31 03:57:33 PM
Mighty Taternuts: I think thugs on either side used to tell voters the wrong places to vote and there were bar fights and stuff over who would get elected.

Our internet bickering makes us looks like pussies in comparison.



At least this way we can be in our undies, drinking beer.
 
2008-07-31 03:57:39 PM
purple helmet: McCain is losing?

Hmm. I don't believe any votes have been cast one way or the other yet.

Crying about mud slinging is funny coming from all the asshats who say McSame, Pancakes, and make age jokes.


McCain, I would hope, would be above the level of Farksters.
 
2008-07-31 03:57:56 PM
danlpoon: I'd say that he's pretty much publicly financed anyway.

By "Public" of course you're including the money he took from Indiana Muslim PAC during his Senate Campaign that he war-chested and later spent on his Presidential campaign, right?


You're going to go through this again? Really? Because I'm sure you have proof that he saved $100 from his Senate campaign in 2004 just so he could spend it in 2008. When he raised $50 million in June alone. Yeah, that's totally a plausible argument.
 
2008-07-31 03:58:24 PM
RadioAaron: Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Notice 2 things...

1) The ad doesn't feature any footage of said "attacks"
2) Obama does not express his approval of this ad

Just a little food for thought. Make of it what you will.

Why would the DNC want to replay negative McCain soundbytes?


Because some people may not have seen/heard them and have no way of knowing what the ad is talking about?
 
2008-07-31 03:58:57 PM
All2morrowsparTs: I'm assuming you mean "median" since mean=average. That or I want my money back from my statistics class. :)

Whoopsy. Thats exactly what I meant.
 
2008-07-31 03:59:27 PM
RadioAaron: Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Notice 2 things...

1) The ad doesn't feature any footage of said "attacks"
2) Obama does not express his approval of this ad

Just a little food for thought. Make of it what you will.

Why would the DNC want to replay negative McCain soundbytes? Why give them more exposure than they deserve? It's a marketing strategy. If others are playing McCain's disastrous message and ripping it to shreds, why give it more traction? Just play the negative feedback.

The point of the ad was not to address McCain's claims; the point was to show the contrast in McCain's campaign styles.

/Not troll
//Not flame
///Just sayin


Reason? Logic? IN MY FARK.COM???
 
2008-07-31 04:00:26 PM
bartink: All2morrowsparTs: I'm assuming you mean "median" since mean=average. That or I want my money back from my statistics class. :)

Whoopsy. Thats exactly what I meant.


Wouldn't we know what the median donation is since the cap is at $2,300 per person?
 
2008-07-31 04:01:06 PM
Mighty Taternuts: The First: Hang On Voltaire: The election of 1800 is considered the nastiest in US history.

How so?

I think thugs on either side used to tell voters the wrong places to vote and there were bar fights and stuff over who would get elected.



Our internet bickering makes us looks like pussies in comparison.


Meh, elections were like that right up onto the 20th century.

There'd be guys with full beards, a campaign worker would grab the guy, make him vote, shave his beard, make him vote again, shave his mustache off, make him vote again, shave his sideburns, make him vote again.


Read about the real Tammany Hall Democrats, (as opposed to the Leo movie), they had election fraud down to a science.
 
2008-07-31 04:01:07 PM
WaltzingMathilda:
Reason? Logic? IN MY FARK.COM???


Gonna make some beats?
 
2008-07-31 04:02:47 PM
You don't think Muslim Americans are allowed to participate in our system? HE represented them.

It's fine with me. Barack Obama can buy Burkhas and Dynamite with their donations as far as I'm concerned. Money wasted is money wasted no matter how its wasted.

Because I'm sure you have proof

I have proof Barcl Obama took money from INDIANA MUSLIM PAC and that he brought a war chest to his Presidential campaign. What else do you need?
 
2008-07-31 04:03:38 PM
I'm assuming you mean "median" since mean=average. That or I want my money back from my statistics class. :)

Yeah, that threw me for a loop as well. And wouldn't the median be an even smaller number then $80?

$10, $10, $10, $10, $20, $20, $480

Mean = $80
Median = $10
Mode = $10
 
2008-07-31 04:04:33 PM
danlpoon: You don't think Muslim Americans are allowed to participate in our system? HE represented them.

It's fine with me. Barack Obama can buy Burkhas and Dynamite with their donations as far as I'm concerned. Money wasted is money wasted no matter how its wasted.

Because I'm sure you have proof

I have proof Barcl Obama took money from INDIANA MUSLIM PAC and that he brought a war chest to his Presidential campaign. What else do you need?



You're either a hack or some sort of a moran. Which is it?
 
2008-07-31 04:05:08 PM
I have proof Barcl Obama took money from INDIANA MUSLIM PAC and that he brought a war chest to his Presidential campaign. What else do you need?

Sorry I mis-spelled 'Barack'.

Redo. have proof Barack Obama took money from INDIANA MUSLIM PAC and that he brought a war chest to his Presidential campaign. What else do you need?
 
2008-07-31 04:05:30 PM
danlpoon: You don't think Muslim Americans are allowed to participate in our system? HE represented them.

It's fine with me. Barack Obama can buy Burkhas and Dynamite with their donations as far as I'm concerned. Money wasted is money wasted no matter how its wasted.

Because I'm sure you have proof

I have proof Barcl Obama took money from INDIANA MUSLIM PAC and that he brought a war chest to his Presidential campaign. What else do you need?


Where is your "proof", tough guy?
 
2008-07-31 04:05:39 PM
Cubicle Jockey: I'm assuming you mean "median" since mean=average. That or I want my money back from my statistics class. :)

Yeah, that threw me for a loop as well. And wouldn't the median be an even smaller number then $80?

$10, $10, $10, $10, $20, $20, $480

Mean = $80
Median = $10
Mode = $10


Standard deviation? Outliers?
 
2008-07-31 04:05:53 PM
Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Because some people may not have seen/heard them and have no way of knowing what the ad is talking about?

Which is precisely the point of the ad and my point overall. You don't need to know what he said, you just need to know that he promised one campaign style and delivered another, and the one he delivered is less desirable than the one promised.
 
2008-07-31 04:06:59 PM
CitizenReserveCorps: Cubicle Jockey: I'm assuming you mean "median" since mean=average. That or I want my money back from my statistics class. :)

Yeah, that threw me for a loop as well. And wouldn't the median be an even smaller number then $80?

$10, $10, $10, $10, $20, $20, $480

Mean = $80
Median = $10
Mode = $10

Standard deviation? Outliers?


Stop it, you guys. I'll have nightmares tonight because of this. I've tried to purge this stuff from my memory ages ago.
 
2008-07-31 04:07:09 PM
You're either a hack or some sort of a moran. Which is it?

Of all the great ideas floating around your tiny head this was the best you could do?

"What are you some kinda Moe-ron".

Genius post. Keep it up.
 
2008-07-31 04:08:02 PM
Where is your "proof", tough guy?

What'll ya give me?
 
2008-07-31 04:08:13 PM
The election of 1800 is considered the nastiest in US history.

Back then they used to get people really drunk or poison them and kidnap them and have them vote more than once.

/Its called cooping, and its illegal.
 
2008-07-31 04:08:17 PM
I love that this thread has several people outraged that Obama would suggest that those opposed to him would use racism and xenophobia to attack him, followed by a guy yelling "He took money from an INDIANA MUSLIM PAC" over and over.
 
2008-07-31 04:08:27 PM
danlpoon: Where is your "proof", tough guy?

What'll ya give me?


Where's your proof, bub?
 
2008-07-31 04:08:44 PM
Hideously Gigantic Smurf: RadioAaron: Hideously Gigantic Smurf: Notice 2 things...

1) The ad doesn't feature any footage of said "attacks"
2) Obama does not express his approval of this ad

Just a little food for thought. Make of it what you will.

Why would the DNC want to replay negative McCain soundbytes?

Because some people may not have seen/heard them and have no way of knowing what the ad is talking about?


Well, this, plus the title of the ad kinda indicates that the McCain campaign has become so desperate that they have pretty much given up now and have just resorted to the strategy of baseless mud slinging and outright lying, 24/7.

Which is true.
 
2008-07-31 04:09:07 PM
danlpoon: Where is your "proof", tough guy?

What'll ya give me?


I have a buddy who is a Nigerian prince who would like to transfer you $10,000,000 in exchange for this information.
 
2008-07-31 04:09:09 PM
danlpoon: Redo. have proof Barack Obama took money from INDIANA MUSLIM PAC and that he brought a war chest to his Presidential campaign. What else do you need?

Don't tell us, tell Fox. You'll reach more partisan shrills that way.
 
2008-07-31 04:10:37 PM
FuriousGeorge945: I love that this thread has several people outraged that Obama would suggest that those opposed to him would use racism and xenophobia to attack him, followed by a guy yelling "He took money from an INDIANA MUSLIM PAC" over and over.

i177.photobucket.com
 
2008-07-31 04:10:50 PM
Have proof Barack Obama took money from INDIANA MUSLIM PAC and that he brought a war chest to his Presidential campaign.

Republicans, the whole "Muslims are evil!!" thing isn't your best look.
 
2008-07-31 04:10:56 PM
Nestea Plunge: danlpoon: Where is your "proof", tough guy?

What'll ya give me?

Where's your proof, bub?



He can't produce proof that's in his head. See, kids, THIS is why you don't sniff glue.
 
2008-07-31 04:11:47 PM
Jesus, McCainDemocrat sure is angry today.
 
2008-07-31 04:12:24 PM
Republicans, the whole "Muslims are evil!!" thing isn't your best look.

Hey, it's the only way they can win...scare ppl into thinking the muslims are coming to rape and plunder.
 
2008-07-31 04:12:37 PM
I'll give you a hint.

Open Secrets
 
2008-07-31 04:13:14 PM
danlpoon: I have proof Barcl Obama took money from INDIANA MUSLIM PAC and that he brought a war chest to his Presidential campaign. What else do you need?

Sorry I mis-spelled 'Barack'.

Redo. have proof Barack Hussien Shamalamadingdong Sadaam Beelzebub Obama took money from INDIANA MUSLIM PAC and that he brought a war chest to his Presidential campaign. What else do you need?



FTFY there Spary
 
2008-07-31 04:13:39 PM
Danlpoon, normally I like to watch others ridicule you. It's fun for me to watch people crash these myths you posit. How about putting forth a suggested topic that cannot be easily debunked?

Link
 
2008-07-31 04:13:47 PM
www.drudgereport.com
 
2008-07-31 04:13:49 PM
Standard deviation? Outliers?

What do those have to do with MMM?

Mean = average
Median = middle number of sequence
Mode = most common number found in sequence

The only way the median would be larger then $80 would be if the total volume of contributions under $80.00 is larger then the total volume of contributions over $80.00.

Do you feel this is probable?
 
2008-07-31 04:14:08 PM
danlpoon: What'll ya give me?

The cockpunch you so deserve?
 
2008-07-31 04:14:24 PM
All2morrowsparTs: He directed it to the whole opposition, were in fact they are pandering to peoples fears of him being/looking different.

Hmm...I think you are correct. I had said what I did when I read this article which said Obama targeted McCain directly: "Obama argued Wednesday that President Bush and McCain will resort to scare tactics to maintain their hold on the White House because they have little else to offer voters." Then it followed up with the quote.

However, I think you are more correct than the the reporter is. Obama referred to the opposition ("they") in very broad terms.
 
2008-07-31 04:14:26 PM
danlpoon: I'd say that he's pretty much publicly financed anyway.

By "Public" of course you're including the money he took from Indiana Muslim PAC during his Senate Campaign that he war-chested and later spent on his Presidential campaign, right?


You mean Mike Tyson?

/request the mike tyson suite a the indianapolis canterbury hotel
 
2008-07-31 04:15:43 PM
palexc: Jesus, can we move the election up? I'm sick of this crap already.

Your suppose to pray to him, not ask him on fark.
 
2008-07-31 04:15:48 PM
danlpoon: What'll ya give me?

One brazillian dollar.
 
2008-07-31 04:16:13 PM
The First: Republicans, the whole "Muslims are evil!!" thing isn't your best look.

Hey, it's the only way they can win...scare ppl into thinking the muslims are coming to rape and plunder.


Well, they are, aren't they?
 
2008-07-31 04:16:47 PM
PeeWeePangolin: You don't like Obama and hate your country.

You obamaniacs are something. Now if you don't love Obama, you hate America. That's Ludachris.
 
2008-07-31 04:18:19 PM
WaltzingMathilda: The First: Republicans, the whole "Muslims are evil!!" thing isn't your best look.

Hey, it's the only way they can win...scare ppl into thinking the muslims are coming to rape and plunder.

Well, they are, aren't they?


That's beacuse of all the mid-west idgits who think anyone who doesn't look like them is the devil. Seriously, Republicans KNOW that using the scare tactic will always win. Until these rednecks think for themselves this cycle will never end.
 
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