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(MSNBC)   New Mexico to teach Navajo so that future generations of Americans will have a code that the Japanese can't break   (msnbc.msn.com) divider line 117
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2008-07-31 03:40:04 PM  
Wattdahey?
 
2008-07-31 03:50:33 PM  
www.photopile.com
 
2008-07-31 03:57:34 PM  
Awesome headline, didn't read TFA, don't know if it's relevant.
 
2008-07-31 03:59:09 PM  
There's a New Mexico?
 
2008-07-31 04:01:36 PM  
Why? They'll just forget the language right out of school like any other they might learn.

Assuming they'll teach it in high school or whatever. I didn't RTFA.
 
2008-07-31 04:02:21 PM  
This just in: Italian schools to adopt Etruscan textbooks!
 
2008-07-31 04:02:48 PM  
Another state teaching children a completely useless skill when they could be learning something useful. Protecting the language won't bring their culture back from the dead.
 
2008-07-31 04:03:59 PM  
Yeah, subby, that is until the Nihonjin tribe gets a hold of it.
www.spscriptorium.com
/Omai wa sono uchi, sakana to ishoo ni onemu suru koto ni naru, zo!
 
2008-07-31 04:04:55 PM  
Sounds like they're talking underwater.
 
2008-07-31 04:05:27 PM  
No Windtalkers reference yet, I'm almost disappointed.

/Did anyone see that movie?
 
2008-07-31 04:05:37 PM  
Very cute Tresser, but I don't think Cherokee was the national language of the time.

/and the Romans didn't brush up on Etruscan, neither!
 
2008-07-31 04:05:44 PM  
How did this happen?

HOW
 
2008-07-31 04:06:15 PM  
I'd rather learn how to nab a ho
 
2008-07-31 04:06:32 PM  
Gunslinger711: No Windtalkers reference yet, I'm almost disappointed.

...there was one in the f*cking headline.
 
2008-07-31 04:06:46 PM  
Oops, I see someone beat me to the Etruscan correlation.

Well done, give_me_donuts!
 
2008-07-31 04:06:56 PM  
ToughLoveInAction: Very cute Tresser, but I don't think Cherokee was the national language of the time.

/and the Romans didn't brush up on Etruscan, neither!


yeah, just give them injuns some fire water and small pox infected blankets....
 
2008-07-31 04:08:21 PM  
Think of all the things they will be able to say right in front of their parents.


Shut your whore mouth Mom.
 
2008-07-31 04:08:21 PM  
If you want apply for the Navajo Nation Scholarship you need to take a class like the one mentioned. And you need to be Navajo.
 
2008-07-31 04:08:28 PM  
Juniper Jupiter: Yeah, subby, that is until the Nihonjin tribe gets a hold of it.

/Omai wa sono uchi, sakana to ishoo ni onemu suru koto ni naru, zo!


"That's just jibber-jabber!"
i249.photobucket.com
 
2008-07-31 04:08:52 PM  
I speak a little Slapaho.
 
2008-07-31 04:09:25 PM  
They'd do better to learn Spanish... that's going to be the national language of a goodly portion of the USA in another decade or so.
 
2008-07-31 04:09:58 PM  
Yes, please, keep alive a culture so bereft of science they didn't even have the wheel when Europeans arrived.
 
2008-07-31 04:10:12 PM  
Russ1642: Another state teaching children a completely useless skill when they could be learning something useful. Protecting the language won't bring their culture back from the dead.

as long as its an elective id be okay with it. i enjoyed taking french in high school because it allowed me to have some fun in europe without looking like a dumb american.
 
2008-07-31 04:10:27 PM  
"There are so many ways of 'going,'" said Evangeline Parsons Yazzie, a Navajo professor at Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff. "You can go to town, go go gadget, go potty... The Navajo motto is go à go-go."
 
2008-07-31 04:11:05 PM  
Gunslinger711: No Windtalkers reference yet, I'm almost disappointed.

/Did anyone see that movie?


What do you think mine was?
 
2008-07-31 04:11:13 PM  
APPROVES (new window)
 
2008-07-31 04:11:21 PM  
give me doughnuts:

"That's just jibber-jabber!"


www.spscriptorium.com
"Keep it up and you'll be sleeping with the fishes, see?"

/"We have teepees!"
 
2008-07-31 04:12:35 PM  
Ugh. Mongo make wheel. HAAYYYEEEEEEE! Ooogh, ooogh!

- Mongo, 74,000 BC
 
2008-07-31 04:12:53 PM  
wineought: "There are so many ways of 'going,'" said Evangeline Parsons Yazzie, a Navajo professor at Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff. "You can go to town, go go gadget, go potty... The Navajo motto is go à go-go."

Go Go Gadget Navajo!
 
2008-07-31 04:13:05 PM  
Billy Ligue: ToughLoveInAction: Very cute Tresser, but I don't think Cherokee was the national language of the time.

/and the Romans didn't brush up on Etruscan, neither!

yeah, just give them injuns some fire water and small pox infected blankets....


That's some kind of racism there, you twerp...

The point is, the history of mankind is the history of conquest, and seldom do the conquerors learn the language of the defeated.

If you're going to learn a language in the USA today besides English, best get a head start on Spanish.
 
2008-07-31 04:13:11 PM  
That is fine as long as they don't start teaching it anywhere in America.
 
2008-07-31 04:13:32 PM  
My wife took Navajo from Evangeline and thought she was great! Also got to go to a "baby's first smile" celebration. Glad to see someone trying to preserve the language. Since we shipped all the kids off to boarding schools to "Americanize" them in the not too distant past, this is a good thing.
 
2008-07-31 04:14:15 PM  
Russ1642
Another state teaching children a completely useless skill when they could be learning something useful. Protecting the language won't bring their culture back from the dead.
Hmmm. "culture back from the dead" Some of those folks out at Shiprock must beg to differ that it is dead. Indeed, might be a real bad idea to say that to anyone in that area.
 
2008-07-31 04:15:31 PM  
Another state teaching children a completely useless skill

Study of a second language enhances cognitive and problem-solving skills. These enhanced skills are most dramatically seen in improved performance in mathematics classes.

Besides, the purpose of education is not the imparting of skills but rather the development of the student's mind. In some cases, mind-building can coincide with practical skill acquisition, but in most cases, education doesn't work that way. Nobody "uses" geometry in a practical sense, but it's still an important part of core learning.
 
2008-07-31 04:16:45 PM  
Oh-nay, tribal members... Oh-nay!
www.tvparty.com

/for my Philly farkers
 
2008-07-31 04:16:47 PM  
insane_idoru: Gunslinger711: No Windtalkers reference yet, I'm almost disappointed.

...there was one in the f*cking headline.


Hardly.

While movies may be the only source of history for some people, many others have gone to school, read books, or talked with relatives. In the course of these explorations, they moght have found out that the Navajo language was used for communications in the Pacific theatre, and due to the relative uniqueness and obscurity, it was never cracked by Japanese intelligence.

The headline references this historical account, perhaps, and not just some minor film.

Or are you stating that any historical reference includes any semi-fictional literature or threatre based on it automatically?

/movie was ok
 
2008-07-31 04:17:42 PM  
scrufferdog: Russ1642
Another state teaching children a completely useless skill when they could be learning something useful. Protecting the language won't bring their culture back from the dead.
Hmmm. "culture back from the dead" Some of those folks out at Shiprock must beg to differ that it is dead. Indeed, might be a real bad idea to say that to anyone in that area.


Okay, not completely dead - but on its death bed. I remember reading an article about the Gaellic language a couple years ago. The old Irish people want their children to learn the language, which is completely and utterly useless in the real world. What a waste of time and resources.

/French is way, way, way, way more widely used than Navajo.
 
2008-07-31 04:17:42 PM  
filmfanatic.org

Thinks they should be taught how to speak Jive.

/Shamelessly GIS'd and hotlinked.
 
2008-07-31 04:19:02 PM  
Russ1642: /French is way, way, way, way more widely used than Navajo.

That was for bhcompy.
 
2008-07-31 04:19:47 PM  
Just as an aside, I shoot the bow for recreation, and of all the Native American patterns, I like Navajo the best, and have it on my bowcase.

/see, if you like the race, it isn't racism!
 
2008-07-31 04:20:31 PM  
dryknife: There's a New Mexico?

Like we need another one of those....

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2008-07-31 04:21:26 PM  
Russ1642: scrufferdog: Russ1642
Another state teaching children a completely useless skill when they could be learning something useful. Protecting the language won't bring their culture back from the dead.
Hmmm. "culture back from the dead" Some of those folks out at Shiprock must beg to differ that it is dead. Indeed, might be a real bad idea to say that to anyone in that area.

Okay, not completely dead - but on its death bed. I remember reading an article about the Gaellic language a couple years ago. The old Irish people want their children to learn the language, which is completely and utterly useless in the real world. What a waste of time and resources.

/French is way, way, way, way more widely used than Navajo.


Teach 'em Klingon!

/also, national pride has created a larger interest in lerning Irish and Scots Gaelic.
 
2008-07-31 04:23:12 PM  
dryknife: There's a New Mexico?

It's a big improvement over Old Mexico.
 
2008-07-31 04:23:18 PM  
...and possibly in lerning how to spell in English!
 
2008-07-31 04:26:13 PM  
ANyone who says Indians didn't have science is an idiot... try making a traditional birch bark canoe... its not instinctual.

I recently had an arguement with an idiot regarding bring back Indian languages in schools. I said, " Just as the CHinese can learn to use American science without the use of English, Indians can do the same. Granted we may have to make up so new words or borrow some, but English is a language made on borrowed words."

The moron said this (in English): "Oh yeah, how are Indians going to come up for a word like 'Pi'?"

Idiot.
 
2008-07-31 04:27:16 PM  
Ya-ta-hay!
 
2008-07-31 04:27:25 PM  
I had a dream last night that I was dealing cards at a casino for the deaf. I had to talk to the players in sign-language. I don't know sign language, but in my dream I was fluent at it, or at least I knew the signs for "Hit or stand?" and "Top pair bets".
 
2008-07-31 04:30:55 PM  
Ursa Minor: The moron said this (in English): "Oh yeah, how are Indians going to come up for a word like 'Pi'?"

(raises his hand excitedly) Oooh, I know... three with heap long trailing decimal?
 
2008-07-31 04:31:10 PM  
bhcompy: Russ1642: Another state teaching children a completely useless skill when they could be learning something useful. Protecting the language won't bring their culture back from the dead.

as long as its an elective id be okay with it. i enjoyed taking french in high school because it allowed me to have some fun in europe without looking like a dumb american.


I hate to break it to you, but knowing merci, bidet, and garage did not keep you from looking like an idiot American.

/Didn't even learn to talk in complete sentences in high school Spanish.
 
2008-07-31 04:32:41 PM  
I see that a lot of tribes are doing border patrol now. They should have started 500 years ago.

Source (new window)
 
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