Thin crust = better

It's all about the toppings and NOT the crust. Anyone can make crust, but not everyone can pick a good topping.

FTW

Bill Frist: Really New York is the only real American city for pretentious transplants who stop at nothing to tell you how great the city they moved to is while the residents who have lived their for their whole life just snicker and laugh at how hard they try to "fit in"

FTFY

FleaRHCP: FTW

Best in 1979 & 1984? Nancy rests on her laurels in an almost Pabstian fashion.

Eddie Adams from Torrance: That's not a pizza, it's a casserole.

I came here to say just that same thing. I've had Chicago style and New York style, and the NY pizza is the clear winner. Chicagoans are clearly stoned if they think otherwise.

TonnageVT [TotalFark] Quote 2008-07-31 11:18:55 AM
tweekster: For some reason chicago people have a massive inferiority complex when it comes to New York.

They should, after all, they are inferior.

Not only are they inferior, but everything they pride themselves in is something New York is specifically known for more and even better at.

Such as:

- Chicago is famous for its theater scene, but its the #2 scene compared to NY

- Chicago is known for its comedy groups, but New York has a much better and bigger comedy scene and the Chicago commedians flee to NY as soon as they can

- Chicago has a nice skyline, but New York has a more famous one.

- Chicago has a great restaurant scene.... but still well below New York's standard.

- Chicago likes to think of itself as big and important, but frankly no on ereally thinks about it or pays attention to it outside of the midwest.

- Chicago has its own style of pizza but its not as good as New YOrks and basically not eaten outside of fatties in the midwest, while the New York style is everywhere.


So I can understand the inferiority complex. There is nothing really unique about chicago. Its all just a weaker version of NYC. This is unlike, say LA which has its own things (hollywood, surf culture, I dunno... california wines?)

If your entire city's culture is just a crappier version of New York's... it is easy to see how you would get a chip on your shoulder.

NittLion78: There should be camps for people like you. Camps where you're turned into delicious hot dogs.

Ketchup is the best hot dog topping ever.

Mad Scientist: I order one every time I fly through Midway...



/hot dog linked to ensure freshness

Holy crow, that's awesome!

Cythraul: Before I left to visit, people kept telling me about how friendly Chicagoans are. *shrug* During my visit, I never really noticed an unusual amount of friendliness. It seemed no different than where I'm from. Then again, I'm from rural NC, so maybe that alone says that for a bit city, they are really friendly.

Last year I was visiting and just getting off the L train to catch amtrak and helped a girl with her suitcase thru the turnstyle. As I was walking away I heard her say to a friend "well you can tell he isn't from chicago"

My experience is basically, chicago people are jerks and would kick you in the ribs rather than help you up.

fudgefactor7 Quote 2008-07-31 11:27:16 AM
Eddie Adams from Torrance: That's not a pizza, it's a casserole.

I came here to say just that same thing. I've had Chicago style and New York style, and the NY pizza is the clear winner. Chicagoans are clearly stoned massively obese if they think otherwise.


FTFY

R.A.Danny: The difference is the lack of lips and assholes. All beef Kosher dogs are made from real meat. I used to do plumbing in both Vienna and Best Kosher, there is a difference.

I eat Hebrew Natl, Sabrett, or Nathan's, and you are saying that those hot dogs are that much better. Highly doubtful.

WaltzingMathilda:

There, I pointed out some similarities. Yes, I'd rather live on the coast, but if you're standing on the rocks of the north shore looking out, and you brought a blindfolded person there, they'd ask you what ocean it was. That was my point.

This is where I have to disagree. I would immediately ask what lake it was because it smells like a lake. I can smell the ocean from a mile away. If you put me in front of Superior blindfolded I wouldn't think I was in Maine.

And yes, Chicago has lots of seafood flow in, but it's nothing like living near the ocean. It's more expensive, it's been in a plane for X hours, and everyone knows the good stuff is for the locals. The meh stuff gets shipped out. I lived in Chicago for a time and I relished the chance to go to Miami, Tampa, NOLA, etc for the great seafood. Don't take it personally. The seafood isn't as good, but you have better pizza and hot dogs.

Keep in mind that it is possible for Chicago to be a great city, BUT for the seafood to be mediocre and for Lake Michigan to be not like an ocean. No one is putting you down.

Rapmaster2000: Chicago is nothing like Houston. Chicago is pleasant with good public transportation, a great party scene, good food and fantastic summers.

Houston is a crime ridden hellhole. One giant soulless suburb spreading out across a swamp. A place where you spend half your life sitting in your car waiting to get home so you can shove fast food in your face.

Don't ever compare that shiathole Houston to Chicago. Next you'll tell me how New York is just like Indianapolis.

Dont get your uterus in an uproar, I said similar.

Both are great food towns and have old-school industry roots. Actually, Houston is becoming more like LA every day. Summers here are rough but the stabbings and shootings usually taper off around mid-July.

Lou Malnati's and Gino's East, the best pizza I have ever eaten. Thank you Chicago for outstandingly good pizza and the Cubbies.

tricycleracer: FleaRHCP: FTW

Best in 1979 & 1984? Nancy rests on her laurels in an almost Pabstian fashion.

take it easy there killer - they've won awards since then,
that was just the best graphic I could find that included the name

doogie003: WaltzingMathilda: keylock71: Oh sure, I have had friends from Chicago say, "But we've got lake Michigan, that's almost like an ocean." No, no it's not...

You're right. It's a freshwater lake. Other than not being able to surf, there's not a huge difference between the two. Since your friends say it's "almost" like an ocean, I'm inclined to agree with them. For all intents and purposes, there are only a few differences.

You are wrong again silly cardinal fan. Don't even chime in when it comes to Chicago. You can surf on Lake Michigan, and every one of the great lakes.

http://www.greatlakesurfing.com/

/go be st. louis somewhere else

You can surf on the Great Lakes?? what kind of swells you getting out there...oil tanker wakes?

dothemath: Moving to Paris is a long term goal, after college. I love river cities and the climate is amazing. There may have been a time when large american cities had distinct personalities but those days are over. Everything is the same everywhere.

Thanks McDonalds loving fatasses.

And just think...you can ride your London-purchased exclusive scooter full-time and you won't stand out like the "wannabe intellectual fairy" as much as you do in the States.

For what it is worth...

- Born and raised in Hawai'i
- Have lived in NYC, SF, Denver and Seattle
- Now live in Chicago
- Chicago people are the most like Hawai'i people (some midwestern Aloha going on)
- NYC stinks like a farking pig farm in the summer

tallguywithglasseson: If I was going to move, I'd much rather move to Chicago than to New York.

Although I posted several anti chicago messages in this thread, I do agree 100%

PS: Pizza Uno sucks ass.

/thread

Bill Frist: If your entire city's culture is just a crappier version of New York's... it is easy to see how you would get a chip on your shoulder.

The best evidence of this is that every time someone from another city wants to talk about their greatness they compare themselves to NY. As evidenced in the headline.

They don't say "We're better then Boston, Philly, Chicago". Always NY.

Chicago style:

It's like Pizza cooked in a dirty oven, but with bread and more grease.

"Forget Paris!"

Heh, Veolia Environment is HQ'd in Paris. (Nanterre, just outside actually.)

Chicago's cons: extremes in temperature, high humidity, ten months/year of overcast skies, decrepit roads, lame sports teams, provincialism, mean cops, an inferiority complex (always comparing themselves to NYC), worthless public TV (no Doctor Who or Red Dwarf), crappy public radio (way too much jazz), being a few years behind the latest trends, a city council proud of its tradition of rampant corruption, and a mayor-for-life who makes Bush sound as eloquent as Sideshow Bob.

Chicago's pros: down-to-earth people, May (the one pleasant month), the DJs at WXRT-FM, interesting pizza (even if it's not your favorite), and restaurants for beef- and pork-lovers.

Bill Frist: - Chicago has a nice skyline, but New York has a more famous one.

Not anymore!

PS most of your facts are just anecdotes, lugnuts.

Sirjohnfalstaff: HulkHands: As someone who lives about 10 minutes away from New Haven, the pizza capital of the planet, i find this pizza debate cute and amusing.

What part of Italy is New Haven in?

Pizza was actually invented in America. Your snark attempt = FAIL

Hmmmm, let's see...

1. Richard Daley as Mayor? Check.
2. Chicago Cubs? Check.
3. Lousy pizza? Check.

Yep, it all adds up. Chicago pretty much sucks!

Oh, and for such a huge city, why is hardly anything open in Chicago after midnight?

jjrohan You can surf on the Great Lakes?? what kind of swells you getting out there...oil tanker wakes?

The only decent waves come on the Michigan side in the winter. Thick wetsuit and an extra-bouyant longboard (fresh water) FTW.

Rock over London, rock on Chicago!

/Napa, the auto parts store.

R.A.Danny: LouDobbsAwaaaay: The rest of America

You don't matter to us, small town America. Houston is a small town BTW.

Small town america gave you 8 years of GW Bush! Yesssssss we win!


kinda, sorta, not really

Xoinx: Oh, and for such a huge city, why is hardly anything open in Chicago after midnight?

Get out of the damn Loop ya tourist.

Xoinx: Oh, and for such a huge city, why is hardly anything open in Chicago after midnight?

Because it's an overpopulated town at best.

dothemath:
Dont get your uterus in an uproar, I said similar.

Both are great food towns and have old-school industry roots. Actually, Houston is becoming more like LA every day. Summers here are rough but the stabbings and shootings usually taper off around mid-July.

And they both speak English!! So similar.

Oh yeah, New York pizza makes me all kinds of hungry. Barf.

I'm not saying nothing's open in Chicago (17-year resident, BTW), but you gotta hunt for it, and what's open isn't that awesome.