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(NW Florida Daily News)   High schools now charging students for locker rental. "The cost of keeping up a locker is a lot"   (nwfdailynews.com) divider line 149
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2008-07-31 07:27:01 AM
Well, I'm a Choctawhatchee High School graduate (old-school 80s-era) and me and my pals used to share lockers even when it was free. I still don't know why. Seems sort of gay now.
 
2008-07-31 08:05:02 AM
Seems like they ought to find some kind of way to fund public schools with some sort of tax.

Perhaps one on property or something that they could use to raise revenue to pay for them with.

Someone should look into that.
 
2008-07-31 08:05:34 AM
mr_bunny: Seems like they ought to find some kind of way to fund public schools with some sort of tax.

Perhaps one on property or something that they could use to raise revenue to pay for them with.

Someone should look into that.


Commie
 
2008-07-31 08:07:44 AM
This is an excellent plan, as long as prices reflect the realities of locker real estate. Lockers lining the hall to the band room or out in the various far-flung wings of the school? Pariah-ville, foreclosure pricing. Lockers right in the main intersection of the school or right outside the lunch room? Manhattan.

You could also make a killing offering Locker Realty services, where you match up students with a locker customized to their unique needs (right beside homeroom, strategically located near the bus ramp, positioned in a spot with the potential to move them just one or two spots up the social ladder). Locker flipping would always be a potential problem, of course, but as long as effective monitoring programs are put into place, it should be manageable.
 
2008-07-31 08:15:31 AM
mr_bunny: Seems like they ought to find some kind of way to fund public schools with some sort of tax.

Perhaps one on property or something that they could use to raise revenue to pay for them with.

Someone should look into that.


The public schools around here have the benefit of getting my tax money yet not having to spend any of it on my kids. It's a win-win! Well, for them at least.
 
2008-07-31 08:20:44 AM
Pocket Ninja: This is an excellent plan, as long as prices reflect the realities of locker real estate.

Shrill 9th graders running around in blue blazers...mass hysteria.
 
2008-07-31 08:20:45 AM
Brad_Will: The public schools around here have the benefit of getting my tax money yet not having to spend any of it on my kids. It's a win-win! Well, for them at least.

Yup. This is why you only have to pay taxes on roads you actually drive on. It's also why you only receive a tax bill for military spending when a soldier fires a gun specifically to defend you, and why no American who didn't actually get launched into orbit had to help pay for the space program. You only have to pay for embassies you've actually visited, and if you've never set foot in a national park, it's off your bill. America! What a country!
 
2008-07-31 08:22:39 AM
mr_bunny: Seems like they ought to find some kind of way to fund public schools with some sort of tax.

Perhaps one on property or something that they could use to raise revenue to pay for them with.

Someone should look into that.


You know how much a school administrator or head coach goes for these days? Such a model you describe would barely cover their salaries and do little to actually provide for the education of the childrens.
 
2008-07-31 08:48:53 AM
Pocket Ninja: This is an excellent plan, as long as prices reflect the realities of locker real estate.

I'm gonna buy the locker next to mine and demolish it, it wrecks my view.
 
2008-07-31 08:58:17 AM
EvilEgg: I'm gonna buy the locker next to mine and demolish it, it wrecks my view.

Well, I'm gonna buy the lockers on either side, knock out the walls, and expand to a triple-locker space. Then I'll sell it at an inflated price to the quarterback and use the profits to buy a slew of low-income lockers down by the band hall, which I'll subdivide into separate shelves and rent out to band geeks and math nerds who want the safety of a locker they can't be stuffed into. With my profits from that, I'll leverage a purchase of some middling-ground lockers (the social studies hall, maybe, or across from the trophy case), and I'll secretly pay the head cheerleader to move into one of them. Then I'll quadrupled the price of the rest and make a killing offering close-proximity living to underclassmen who'd otherwise never have a shot at her. I'd own the school within a year, baby.
 
2008-07-31 09:00:15 AM
Pocket Ninja: This is an excellent plan, as long as prices reflect the realities of locker real estate. Lockers lining the hall to the band room or out in the various far-flung wings of the school? Pariah-ville, foreclosure pricing. Lockers right in the main intersection of the school or right outside the lunch room? Manhattan.

Indeed - hell, when I was in HS I would have the locker the school gave me as my main spot for my stuff, and kept 2 or 3 satellite lockers around the school so I usually carried next to nothing from class to class... I wonder if the school will sell them more than one?
 
2008-07-31 09:09:19 AM
Pocket Ninja: I'd own the school within a year, baby.

If you need an interest only, no paperwork loan for that, I'm your man. Don't worry too much if you can't pay it back, the school will cover your debts, because if the locker market tanks they're doomed.
 
2008-07-31 09:30:51 AM
ThatGuyGreg:
Indeed - hell, when I was in HS I would have the locker the school gave me as my main spot for my stuff, and kept 2 or 3 satellite lockers around the school so I usually carried next to nothing from class to class... I wonder if the school will sell them more than one?




I adopted this strategy my Junior and Senior year. My Freshmen and Sophomore year, I could be found lugging a giant book bag around for half the year. This is what you do when your locker is so far away from your classes that you barely have time to go to the locker and get to class before the bell.

In any case, the best thing to do is have one of your girl friends carry your books....
 
2008-07-31 09:36:07 AM
UberDave: I adopted this strategy my Junior and Senior year. My Freshmen and Sophomore year, I could be found lugging a giant book bag around for half the year. This is what you do when your locker is so far away from your classes that you barely have time to go to the locker and get to class before the bell.

Me? I just carried one notebook to every class and bummed books off of everyone else.
 
2008-07-31 09:46:27 AM
UberDave: In any case, the best thing to do is have one of your girl friends carry your books....

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/obligatory
 
2008-07-31 10:03:36 AM
Pocket Ninja: Yup. This is why you only have to pay taxes on roads you actually drive on. It's also why you only receive a tax bill for military spending when a soldier fires a gun specifically to defend you, and why no American who didn't actually get launched into orbit had to help pay for the space program. You only have to pay for embassies you've actually visited, and if you've never set foot in a national park, it's off your bill. America! What a country!

The difference is that I don't have to pay for private versions of the things you mention because the public versions suck so much.
 
2008-07-31 10:07:05 AM
Brad_Will: The difference is that I don't have to pay for private versions of the things you mention because the public versions suck so much.

The public schools in my area are excellent.
 
2008-07-31 10:16:16 AM
EvilEgg: The public schools in my area are excellent.

Lucky you.
 
2008-07-31 10:43:23 AM
At what point do they cease being public schools?
 
2008-07-31 10:49:42 AM
We had to pay for locker rentals when I was in high school 10 years ago. As well as for our identification tags and a parking pass.

$15 to start off the school year.

I thought this was common.
 
2008-07-31 11:13:46 AM
Can you decline the usage of a locker? No? Then it's not a rental it's a tax.
 
2008-07-31 11:17:29 AM
slayer199: Can you decline the usage of a locker? No? Then it's not a rental it's a tax.

FTFA:

"Massarelli-Gates said students won't be required to have lockers because there aren't any restrictions on students to carry book bags."

Reading is fundamental.
 
2008-07-31 11:29:20 AM
I am okay with charging them.
 
2008-07-31 11:32:11 AM
Does this mean I can rent a locker?
 
2008-07-31 11:32:25 AM
This is not news to me....$5.00 locker rental at the High School; it's a given.
 
2008-07-31 11:33:09 AM
They did this kinda thing to us in HS but instead of charging "rental" we had to buy their locks. Plain old Master combination locks with the combinations preset for something like $45. If you didn't buy the lock you weren't assigned a locker. Naturally everyone threw the school locks in the lockers and just put on whatever kind of locks they wanted.
 
2008-07-31 11:34:03 AM
"The cost of keeping up searching a locker is a lot"

Fixed
 
2008-07-31 11:34:39 AM
If they have to be paid for, then the school shouldn't be allowed to search them.

I don't have any legal backing for this, I just think it's a dick move to charge for lockers.
 
2008-07-31 11:34:55 AM
If I have to pay them to rent a locker, do I have a reasonable expectation of privacy in this locker?

Or will the staff still open it if they become the least bit suspicious?

Can buy all of the lockers in a certain hall and then sublease? Become a locker tycoon?
 
2008-07-31 11:35:19 AM
Pocket Ninja: Yup. This is why you only have to pay taxes on roads you actually drive on. It's also why you only receive a tax bill for military spending when a soldier fires a gun specifically to defend you, and why no American who didn't actually get launched into orbit had to help pay for the space program. You only have to pay for embassies you've actually visited, and if you've never set foot in a national park, it's off your bill. America! What a country!

I get your snark and all, but i like to think that all of my tax money goes to national parks, i just pretend that thats all i support. it is like the folks who pay extra for windpower, not like their are special powerlines that make sure their fan is propelled by the movement of electorns induced souly by wind power, but they pay it anywho.
 
2008-07-31 11:35:58 AM
Pocket Ninja: Locker flipping would always be a potential problem, of course, but as long as effective monitoring programs are put into place, it should be manageable.

On this week's episode of "Flip This Locker", Brandi installs Teen Beat heartthrob wallpaper and Hello Kitty stickers and makes a handsome profit.
 
2008-07-31 11:36:02 AM
Can some lawyer chime in on this... If they charge you for the rental space, does that imply some expectation of privacy. If so can the student not allow them to search it?
 
2008-07-31 11:36:56 AM
Why don't they sell them shower tickets for gym class as well? Just go ahead and beat them up and steal their lunch money too.
 
2008-07-31 11:37:21 AM
PirateKing
I don't have any legal backing for this, I just think it's a dick move to charge for lockers.

Frankly, I don't care what you think of what I do.
 
2008-07-31 11:38:16 AM
What is the cost on upkeep of a locker anyways?

They are kind of just there. And you can lock them...and unlock them.

Guess you gotta paint 'em every few years...

Other than that, I can't think of anything.
 
2008-07-31 11:38:17 AM
mandyer: They did this kinda thing to us in HS but instead of charging "rental" we had to buy their locks. Plain old Master combination locks with the combinations preset for something like $45. If you didn't buy the lock you weren't assigned a locker. Naturally everyone threw the school locks in the lockers and just put on whatever kind of locks they wanted.

My high school was brand new in Sept '97 when I was a freshman, and the locks were actually part of the lockers. I never once opened my locker Sophomore year, since it was on the 4th floor. Junior and Senior years, my lockers were actually in a relatively convinient place, so I would stuff my jacket in there at the beginning of the day and grab it before I left. That's all I ever used lockers for.
 
2008-07-31 11:38:45 AM
CapitolG:

...but i like to think that all of my tax money goes to national parks, i just pretend that thats all i support.


I do that too.

/The taxes I pay only go toward education and Maplethorpe photos.
 
2008-07-31 11:39:35 AM
PirateKing: If they have to be paid for, then the school shouldn't be allowed to search them.

I don't have any legal backing for this, I just think it's a dick move to charge for lockers.


Now that's an interesting angle. But even in a landlord/lease situation, the landlord usually reserves the right to inspect the property if they suspect it's being misused.

I look at this way -- it's OK to charge for privileges, like parking permits, etc. Those are gravy. They're not necessities. I would say that the lockers are a necessity and should remain free. You don't really have an alternative, like bringing your own lunch instead of buying from the cafeteria.
 
2008-07-31 11:39:44 AM
MedianJoe: Can some lawyer chime in on this... If they charge you for the rental space, does that imply some expectation of privacy. If so can the student not allow them to search it?

I can only tell you what we were told when we biatched about it - No, it's still the school's property.
 
2008-07-31 11:39:53 AM
In my high school the locker you received was right outside your last class of the day. If your last class was conveniently located (as mine was in my sophomore, junior, and senior years), no problems. If your last class is out in BFE, you're farked.

My freshman year I was assigned a locker and then they pushed me into a different class, so I had NOTHING in the same time zone as my locker, so I ended up just carrying everything with me, as the administrator says they can. I ended up with an enormous duffel bag (to fit everything inside) and it was like hauling around a load of bricks. With modern textbooks you can't expect a student to carry every last one throughout the day; the weight gets insane and you can't stash that bag in your gym locker.

Asinine policy. Just let the kids bring their own locks and be done with it.
 
2008-07-31 11:40:28 AM
Confabulat: ... me and my pals used to share lockers even when it was free. I still don't know why. Seems sort of gay now.

You're right that does sound a little gay.

In junior high I lived out of my locker. I don't really know why but it was always crammed with shiat and I even decorated it (I can't remember what with, but I know I had little posters in it).
 
2008-07-31 11:40:38 AM
wage0048
in there at the beginning of the day and grab it before I left. That's all I ever used lockers for.

And I still feel dirty you bastard.

/*shakes fist*
 
2008-07-31 11:41:11 AM
If youre renting a locker, then does it become your property and not the schools and is then ineligible for a search without a warrant?
 
2008-07-31 11:41:25 AM
Fellow

Same here, and I just graduated last year. I remember specifically not having a locker because I didn't want to pay money for it when I had a perfectly good back to carry everything on.

Oh and whoever asked about the privacy- yeah, they searched them all the time. Bolt cutters, dogs, cops, whole shebang.
 
2008-07-31 11:41:57 AM
Confabulat: Seems sort of gay now.

That's not gay, lots of girls shared lockers in high school.
 
2008-07-31 11:42:44 AM
Why don't they also install coin operated bathrooms? parking meters at each desk! Also yearly texbook rentals and even a daliy cover charge to get into the school!
 
2008-07-31 11:43:44 AM
And then they wonder why enrollment drops every year.
 
2008-07-31 11:43:48 AM
This is close to my current home town. I can see why they are doing this, but every "school budget cut" related story I see lately just reaffirms the reasons why I homeschool my kids.

/30 kids to an elementary school class means 2 minutes of quality time for each child! 40% of Ft. Walton Beach students now have to share pencils.

//Not real statistics, I just made them up, but more than likely we will see them on Fark soon.
 
2008-07-31 11:44:21 AM
MedianJoe: Can some lawyer chime in on this... If they charge you for the rental space, does that imply some expectation of privacy. If so can the student not allow them to search it?

Sorry, but your land-lord has a right of entry if you are violating the terms of your lease, or in an emergency.
 
2008-07-31 11:45:00 AM
PhotoCindy
lots of girls shared lockers in high school.

You would think I would be upset about it, but I'm not.
 
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