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(MSNBC)   Not to be outdone by Delta, American Airlines sent 67 flights off today without putting the bags on the planes. Lets see you top that, United   (msnbc.msn.com) divider line 80
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2008-07-30 09:04:31 PM
United hired my dad in 1962...

That filled their Fail quota for at least 75 years.
 
2008-07-30 09:07:50 PM
Thousands of customers had to leave their luggage behind and hope it would be delivered later.

a majority of the flights affected by Wednesday's baggage problem were international


Good luck tracking down Bhattacharya Chikkatumbal in middle of nowhere India to hand him his suitcase.
 
2008-07-30 10:06:00 PM
Overheard in an airline board room: "You know, I still don't understand why people aren't flying as much anymore..."
 
Bek
2008-07-31 12:35:28 AM
Why did you invoke United, subby? I'm flying with them in two days...
 
HBK
2008-07-31 01:15:09 AM
American once lost my bag for 6 weeks. I even told them the airport where they lost it- LAX. 6 farking weeks. I had already bought new stuff by then.
 
2008-07-31 01:16:36 AM
leasticoulddo.com
 
2008-07-31 01:16:50 AM
Where are the passengers supposed to barf?

On the graves of the survivors?
 
2008-07-31 01:17:06 AM
Didn't anybody get the memo ?
 
2008-07-31 01:17:30 AM
Don't worry folks, they waived the checked luggage fee for those people for that one day. I mean, pfft, no harm no foul right?
 
2008-07-31 01:20:21 AM
Carry-on only and buy whatever you need when you get there.
 
2008-07-31 01:20:37 AM
Coincidentally, they also layed off 40 people in their IT department this morning.

I'm sure that had nothing to do with it.
 
2008-07-31 01:23:50 AM
Don't worry subby, in my experience, United is second to none at losing luggage.

/just give 'em time
 
2008-07-31 01:25:11 AM
i blame these guys, they started this whole mess

i102.photobucket.com
 
2008-07-31 01:25:54 AM
I think it is becoming a more and more viable option to ship your clothes, via FedEx or UPS, to wherever you are going. At least you get a tracking number, and you can even insure it. Don't know if insuring would help or not, but it's better than relying on the airlines to find your bag.
 
2008-07-31 01:26:34 AM
HempHead: Coincidentally, they also layed off 40 people in their IT department this morning.

I'm sure that had nothing to do with it.


haha, really?

awesome.
 
2008-07-31 01:31:14 AM
It's probably all at Heathrow.
 
2008-07-31 01:32:32 AM
At 3900 flights per day, that's 2%. I'm surprised that's not a normal number.
 
2008-07-31 01:39:20 AM
"How can we quietly deconstruct the company, gut the coffers, file an 11 and bail before the heat comes down? I mean, people wont just stop flying."

"I GOT AN IDEA!"

/Tongue, meet cheek
 
2008-07-31 01:50:09 AM
bunner: "How can we quietly deconstruct the company, gut the coffers, file an 11 and bail before the heat comes down? I mean, people wont just stop flying."

"I GOT AN IDEA!"

/Tongue, meet cheek


Clever, but it won't work. There aren't enough trains and ocean liners anymore.
 
2008-07-31 01:52:40 AM
My friend Zippy Pinhead says that this is a great start. Hopefully they can improve on this tomorrow with all flights going somewhere else with no one's baggae on board. Whhoooppie! BTW Zip will be joining the Senior Management Team at American next week and plans to turn off all of the computer systems so as to save on the electric bill. Fark on!
 
2008-07-31 01:52:57 AM
fabulous! Took a break from packing for my trip to Bulgaria, leaving tomorrow am, to glance at fark and this is what I see? It seems to me that the Alitalia and Bulgaria Air portions of the trip might be the most reliable. Too bad first leg is on USAir. Bastards still owe me for a hotel room

What have we come to?
 
2008-07-31 01:52:59 AM
Wouldn't have to check bags if I could carry on farkin toothpaste and farkin deoderant... Farkin a-holes
 
2008-07-31 01:54:30 AM
Consider travel by eating a burrito, drinking jet fuel and igniting your own farts. Just like they do in the Jetsons!
 
2008-07-31 01:54:35 AM
ultraholland: Didn't anybody get the memo ?

That article is full of fail. I shipped my luggage to Spain. It took months and the charged me insane amounts of money in port fees. It's not cheaper and it's not faster. I don't know what shipping company that dude was using that made it so cheap (usually you pay about 75 dollars for heavy luggage fees, right?, but I want the number!
 
2008-07-31 01:57:06 AM
phoenixdan 2008-07-31 01:25:54 AM
I think it is becoming a more and more viable option to ship your clothes, via FedEx or UPS, to wherever you are going. At least you get a tracking number, and you can even insure it. Don't know if insuring would help or not, but it's better than relying on the airlines to find your bag.


just a note, but FedEx technically doesn't insure packages (I'm not sure about UPS but i happen to work as a copy slave until my next 'real' job comes along)

you can declare a value of up to $500, and if something happens you can put in a claim for that amount, but if you're shipping something that's worth say $2000 and want it to be fully covered you would have to get that insured by an outside source

i work at a FedEx Kinko's tho so a straight FedEx shipping center may offer actual insurance, not sure about that aspect of it
 
2008-07-31 01:58:05 AM
Okay, now that I've had coffee and read the thread, I see that I'm talking about way heavier luggage than the airplanes would carry. Sorry about that rant above.

Flying still sucks.
 
2008-07-31 02:00:44 AM
You know what would be fun? Let's all generalize from am unfortunate but statistically insignificant breakdown of a complex luggage system into a general inditement of airlines and air travel in general.

You know what would be really funny? If americans had the same luggage allowances and excess charges as the rest of the world. Lessee - I just flew Finnair 6,000 miles. My baggage allowance is 1 bag 20kg check in, and one carry on, 7kg. no seperate laptop bag or purse. No 120 liter camping backpack as a "carry on." Overage charges are I think something like 12 euro ($19) per kilogram.

I'm going to the USA next week. I get I think 46 kilos check in plus no effective limit on carry on. basically only USA flights have this regime. also, i think can get another 23 kilos for like $80. ridiculously cheap.

but no, waaah waaah waah. I have to pay $15 per bag because an actual user pays system is unfair. Waaaah. got it.
 
2008-07-31 02:01:15 AM
United lost one of my bags.

I had my baby in there!
 
2008-07-31 02:02:33 AM
You know, the people had the choice to either take a flight with no luggage or take a later flight

So, for all those whining about not having their luggage

instapinch.com
 
2008-07-31 02:05:44 AM
bayoubruce: Wouldn't have to check bags if I could carry on farkin toothpaste and farkin deoderant... Farkin a-holes

they let me through with travel sized ones. i never check bags anymore, i just load up on small ones and carry them on. it's not ideal because everyone else does too and the overheads are loaded, but it beats paying for them to lose my baggage, or waiting an hour for it when i land!
 
2008-07-31 02:23:54 AM
I fly Northwest cattle class from Japan to New England twice a year and have for the past ten years, and while NWA's in-flight service sucks and the interior of the equipment on my leg is shiat, they have never -- not once -- lost or damaged my luggage, and I have never experienced a single delay (well, 45 minutes once for de-icing, but that's different).

I flew with United once during the past decade and not only did we get a terrific delay in Chicago, but they somehow managed to rip both external pockets off the front of my very durable suitcase (obviously, I never saw the contents thereof again). For the return trip, the ticket counter in Boston had one -- yes, ONE -- person working. I arrived three hours early for my flight but still ended up having to run to catch the flight. United = teh suck.

NWA is a ghetto airline but they always get me there on time and with my luggage. While this should be the rule, it is unfortunately the exception, but that's what keeps me flying NWA.
 
2008-07-31 02:25:46 AM
Bomb Head Mohammed: You know what would be fun? Let's all generalize from am unfortunate but statistically insignificant breakdown of a complex luggage system into a general inditement of airlines and air travel in general.

You know what would be really funny? If americans had the same luggage allowances and excess charges as the rest of the world. Lessee - I just flew Finnair 6,000 miles. My baggage allowance is 1 bag 20kg check in, and one carry on, 7kg. no seperate laptop bag or purse. No 120 liter camping backpack as a "carry on." Overage charges are I think something like 12 euro ($19) per kilogram.

I'm going to the USA next week. I get I think 46 kilos check in plus no effective limit on carry on. basically only USA flights have this regime. also, i think can get another 23 kilos for like $80. ridiculously cheap.

but no, waaah waaah waah. I have to pay $15 per bag because an actual user pays system is unfair. Waaaah. got it.


FAIL

/didn't even read the guy's comment
//looked for the most verbose comment, than said "fail"
///aren't I a clever motherfarker?
////OK, took a peek at the comment, happy to see it contains facts and reasoning.
//now watch for BHM to completely disown his comment
//because I am *that* overwhelming of a presence
 
2008-07-31 02:27:32 AM
Ooooh, lookie here, found me another one:

TPS Reports: I fly Northwest cattle class from Japan to New England twice a year and have for the past ten years, and while NWA's in-flight service sucks and the interior of the equipment on my leg is shiat, they have never -- not once -- lost or damaged my luggage, and I have never experienced a single delay (well, 45 minutes once for de-icing, but that's different).

I flew with United once during the past decade and not only did we get a terrific delay in Chicago, but they somehow managed to rip both external pockets off the front of my very durable suitcase (obviously, I never saw the contents thereof again). For the return trip, the ticket counter in Boston had one -- yes, ONE -- person working. I arrived three hours early for my flight but still ended up having to run to catch the flight. United = teh suck.

NWA is a ghetto airline but they always get me there on time and with my luggage. While this should be the rule, it is unfortunately the exception, but that's what keeps me flying NWA.


*ahem*

FAIL

/yes, yes, a freight train full of victory, I am
 
2008-07-31 02:33:07 AM
I seem to have a weak grasp of the obvious. So pray tell, what's with the FAIL!1!!!11111 all of a sudden?

/is this some new meme?
//something to do with the article?
///yes, I know, FAIL!
 
2008-07-31 02:37:13 AM
Just a question...I can check a bag for 15 bucks each way on NWA, and all its contents include some clothes and other miscellany.

What's the price for shipping 40-50 pounds of stuff via UPS or FedEx in comparison?
 
2008-07-31 02:49:35 AM
Bomb Head Mohammed:
You know what would be really funny? If americans had the same luggage allowances and excess charges as the rest of the world. Lessee - I just flew Finnair 6,000 miles. My baggage allowance is 1 bag 20kg check in, and one carry on, 7kg. no seperate laptop bag or purse. No 120 liter camping backpack as a "carry on." Overage charges are I think something like 12 euro ($19) per kilogram.


Now I understand why Scandanavian business people we work with always wear the same wrinkled, smelly suit to every meeting during their trips here.
 
2008-07-31 03:20:40 AM
rackrent: Just a question...I can check a bag for 15 bucks each way on NWA, and all its contents include some clothes and other miscellany.

What's the price for shipping 40-50 pounds of stuff via UPS or FedEx in comparison?


Probably one hell of a lot more, just going by postal rates.
 
2008-07-31 03:26:32 AM
I'd rather dye: I seem to have a weak grasp of the obvious. So pray tell, what's with the FAIL!1!!!11111 all of a sudden?

/is this some new meme?
//something to do with the article?
///yes, I know, FAIL!


Ah, I can field this one. You wait for someone to make a reasonable, somewhat verbose post that might've required some effort and, optionally, contains facts, figures, data, historical references, etc., and then you blurt out "FAIL". That's the game. Isn't it clever?

Another good one is "0/10", but let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
 
2008-07-31 04:04:25 AM
INTERTRON: Don't worry folks, they waived the checked luggage fee for those people for that one day. I mean, pfft, no harm no foul right?

Ace Attorney: You know, the people had the choice to either take a flight with no luggage or take a later flight

So, for all those whining about not having their luggage



How about you fix your shiat then flyboy? All of life knows things can go to hell, but now you are the target. Clean it up.
 
2008-07-31 04:08:08 AM
check an extra suitcase filled with dry ice, and insure it for a huge sum of money. By the time you get to your destination, the dry ice will have sublimated and you'll be left with an empty suitcase. Either Insurance or the airline has to pay for your "missing" items. Cha Ching!
 
2008-07-31 05:36:48 AM
If I'm going to be staying somewhere more than a week, I ship via UPS anything I can't get into a carry on bag two or three days before I leave. This has worked out very well the past few years. Beats lugging cases around an airport. The cost is well worth it.
 
2008-07-31 05:42:22 AM
I like how the workers became overwhelmed. God forbid those union losers actually have to work and read. Oh wait, I forgot, most union losers can't read that's why they are in a union to start with.
 
2008-07-31 06:28:46 AM
SharkInfested:

fabulous! Took a break from packing for my trip to Bulgaria, leaving tomorrow am, to glance at fark and this is what I see? It seems to me that the Alitalia and Bulgaria Air portions of the trip might be the most reliable. Too bad first leg is on USAir. Bastards still owe me for a hotel room

What have we come to?


Yeah, good luck with Alitalia, the worst airline ever...
 
2008-07-31 06:32:17 AM
"union losers"

When complex machinery fails, an understaffed human workforce can always take up the slack with no loss of productivity.

That's why the corporation installed all that expensive equipment in the first place, right?
 
2008-07-31 06:49:35 AM
Ace Attorney
Hell of a choice don't you think? The airlines over charge you, they over book flights all the farking time, they hardly serve food or drink on anymore and when they do they jack up the price, the least they could do is make sure that the bags you bring get on the plane. Those people have every right to 'whine' about being inconvenienced.
 
2008-07-31 07:35:09 AM
rawkus: just a note, but FedEx technically doesn't insure packages (I'm not sure about UPS but i happen to work as a copy slave until my next 'real' job comes along)

you can declare a value of up to $500, and if something happens you can put in a claim for that amount, but if you're shipping something that's worth say $2000 and want it to be fully covered you would have to get that insured by an outside source


Most every FedEx store or UPS store I've been to will insure more than the $500 cap for an extra fee. I'm not sure if that's from UPS/FedEx themselves or through a third party, but they always offer it if you ask. You should check your store policy.
 
2008-07-31 07:35:19 AM
Because of the crisis, American waived its fees Wednesday for travelers checking fewer than three bags at JFK.

At LEAST they had the sense to do this; I only RTFA to find out how they approached the issue of charging for bags now.

I'd still be uber pissed, but I'd be postal if I had to pay for them to stack my bags up in NY and hope they get a chance to deliver them to my destination.
 
2008-07-31 07:44:29 AM
TPS Reports: NWA is a ghetto airline but they always get me there on time and with my luggage. While this should be the rule, it is unfortunately the exception, but that's what keeps me flying NWA.

NWA: Ni**as with Airplanes

My air experiences:
British Air: Awesome
Lufthansa: Very Good
Air France: Decent
US Air: How the fark do you lose my luggage twice in the same weekend?
Alaskan Air: Is this plane going to fall apart mid air?
 
2008-07-31 08:03:27 AM
you know I often wondered if it wouldn't be cheaper for the airline to just send all the bags to then next airport by UPS. With all the usual delays the bags would probably get there about the same time as the passengers.
 
684
2008-07-31 08:32:07 AM
Part of the problem with the airlines is the same thing that has happened at every company. They've cut so many staff in every area that there often isn't enough people to get the job done when things are going right. You have one small breakdown in the system and everything falls apart. The pathetic part is the blame then falls with the few people left doing the work, not the senior managers and VP's who decided to cut so many workers.
 
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