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2008-07-30 04:25:24 AM
You have to wonder where common sense runs off to in situations like this...
 
2008-07-30 04:36:21 AM
On the night in question, common sense, like everyone else in that neighborhood, was busy cowering under the bed and desperately clenching its anus shut.
 
2008-07-30 04:40:14 AM
You f*cked up, so have a laurel and hardy handshake ;)
 
2008-07-30 05:12:40 AM
Lou: "We caught Cecil, Chief."
Wiggum: "Cecil? I think not. This looks like the work of crazy Sideshow Bob."
Lisa: "No Chief Wiggum, it's the the truth, Bob's innocent."
Wiggum: "Innocent? That sounds like the testimony of crazy Lisa Simpson."
Lou: "Uh, Chief, Cecil just voluntarily confessed."
Wiggum: "Good work Lou, you'll make Sergeant for this."
Lou: "I already am Sergeant, Chief."
Wiggum: "Take 'em away."
Bob: "But I saved the children's lives, I'm a hero!"
Wiggum: "Maybe so, but Lou here says you were resisting arrest."
Lou: "No I didn't."
Wiggum: "Quiet Lou! Or I'll bust your ass down to Sergeant so fast your head will spin."
 
2008-07-30 06:46:03 AM
FTA: "The easy decision would have been to retreat under covering fire. The team did not take the easy way out," Dolan told the crowd. "This is a perfect example of a situation that could have gone horribly wrong, but did not because of the professionalism with which it was handled."

Well that is why they got the medals. I can understand that, and they had the restraint not to shoot the guy. They got horrible intel and they could have gone in there guns blazing, but they didn't.
 
2008-07-30 07:19:57 AM
wow.... so they didn't kill innocent victims (just shot up their house) and got awards for it.

just wow.....
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2008-07-30 07:20:10 AM
The right solution was to retreat and wait it out.

Boston's second largest wrongful death payment was to the family of a man killed in a raid on the wrong address.
 
2008-07-30 07:34:41 AM
I had a friend who had his house raided by the North Charleston SWAT team. His neighbors were selling drugs, but the buyers were cutting through his back yard and the police thought it was his house they were buying it from.

The took the battering ram to the door while he and his mother were watching wheel of fortune. They very quickly realized their mistake and they were horrified at what happened. they fixed the door, no problem.

Nobody sued, though. Their intent was good and there was nothing done that wasn't repairable.
 
2008-07-30 07:51:28 AM
labman: I had a friend who had his house raided by the North Charleston SWAT team. His neighbors were selling drugs, but the buyers were cutting through his back yard and the police thought it was his house they were buying it from.

The took the battering ram to the door while he and his mother were watching wheel of fortune. They very quickly realized their mistake and they were horrified at what happened. they fixed the door, no problem.

Nobody sued, though. Their intent was good and there was nothing done that wasn't repairable.


This is the only instance of the police apologizing, admitting their mistake, and fixing it I've heard.
 
2008-07-30 07:53:18 AM
FTFA: "The officers put themselves in harm's way. They were shot at and shot and deserved to be recognized," said Dolan in a statement defending the awards to the SWAT team.

Last time I checked, that's their job. Maybe not to be shot at, but to put themselves in harms way. Why should the get an award? That's kinda like me getting an award for selling sheetrock.
 
2008-07-30 07:56:03 AM
labman: Their intent was good and there was nothing done that wasn't repairable.

No, the intent wasn't good. A couple of bags of dope is not worth a paramilitary raid on a US citizen's house. A couple of state troopers could have done the same thing.
 
2008-07-30 08:08:22 AM
benlonghair: No, the intent wasn't good. A couple of bags of dope is not worth a paramilitary raid on a US citizen's house. A couple of state troopers could have done the same thing.

Who would have been shot as soon as they stepped foot into the house. Drug dealers don't arm themselves with menacing looks.
 
2008-07-30 08:13:17 AM
Goddamn pigs.
 
2008-07-30 08:15:51 AM
Tat'dGreaser: benlonghair: No, the intent wasn't good. A couple of bags of dope is not worth a paramilitary raid on a US citizen's house. A couple of state troopers could have done the same thing.

Who would have been shot as soon as they stepped foot into the house. Drug dealers don't arm themselves with menacing looks.


Clearly, you've learned everything you know about drug dealers from movies or television.
 
2008-07-30 08:17:08 AM
benlonghair: labman: Their intent was good and there was nothing done that wasn't repairable.

No, the intent wasn't good. A couple of bags of dope is not worth a paramilitary raid on a US citizen's house. A couple of state troopers could have done the same thing.


Fail.

team had gone there looking for a gang member's guns
 
2008-07-30 08:17:19 AM
Lovejoy: What in God's name is going on here?
Wiggum: Isn't this 742 Evergreen Terrace?
Lovejoy: No, that's next door.
[next door, Snake drives out of a garage]
Snake: Close but no doughnut, cops.
[drives off]
-- Snake, cattle rustler, "Homer's Triple Bypass"

Wiggum: This is Papa Bear. Put out an APB for a male suspect, driving a...car of some sort, heading in the direction of...you know, that place that sells chili. Suspect is hatless. Repeat, hatless.
-- Snake makes his escape
 
2008-07-30 08:17:42 AM
Close, but no donut, Cops!
 
2008-07-30 08:19:02 AM
As much as I hate to hear about these SWAT raids gone wrong, I gotta admit that I'm surprised they didn't bomb the house and/or blow away the whole family once the guy started shooting at them.

But giving them a medal for restraint? Meh.
 
2008-07-30 08:19:24 AM
did they go to 123 Fake Street?
 
2008-07-30 08:20:15 AM
ceramics: Clearly, you've learned everything you know about drug dealers from movies or television.

So they are all puppy dogs and rainbows? The police should act like they all are peace loving hippies?
 
2008-07-30 08:21:44 AM
More than seven months later, the internal review has not finished looking into how the officers and supervisors in the Violent Offenders' Task Force handled the investigative piece of the case which preceded the raid at the Khang home. So far, no one has been disciplined in connection with the mistaken raid.

Cops investigating cops, well done.

Chief: Lift the carpet, Lou, I'll sweep everything under it.
Lou: Will do, Chief.
Chief: Good work, Lou.

/Fat lawyers, broke taxpayers, you know the drill
 
2008-07-30 08:21:47 AM
If the cops involved had a shred of pride they would refuse the awards. If the award in question is something automatic like a combat action ribbon or something then at least give them in private.

benlonghair: Last time I checked, that's their job. Maybe not to be shot at, but to put themselves in harms way. Why should the get an award? That's kinda like me getting an award for selling sheetrock.

Why should you be an asshole about it? Tell your boss to start an employee of the month program and maybe you'll get a little plaque with your name on it in the break room for selling lots and lots of sheetrock. Good luck!
 
2008-07-30 08:21:55 AM
Tat'dGreaser: Well that is why they got the medals. I can understand that, and they had the restraint not to shoot the guy. They got horrible intel and they could have gone in there guns blazing, but they didn't.

FTFA: "Khang fired several shots at the "intruders" who turned out to be members of the Minneapolis Police Department's SWAT team. The officers returned fire. Their protective gear prevented them from being harmed by the bullets."

They did go in guns blazing. They got medals for firing on an innocent man and forcing him in to surrender rather than retreating.
 
2008-07-30 08:23:37 AM
I'd like to see SWAT break into the wrong house in Texas and have them wiped out with some redneck armed to the hilt
 
2008-07-30 08:27:59 AM
Splat763: They did go in guns blazing. They got medals for firing on an innocent man and forcing him in to surrender rather than retreating.

Returning fire after being shot at is not guns blazing. They got the medals for continuing forward instead of retreating, which is what they were supposed to do. Hell, they could have really screwed up and killed this man but they didn't. I don't think they should accept the awards, but I can see why they are being given them.
 
2008-07-30 08:28:47 AM
Had this been AZ they would have burned the house down, killed the dog, and destroyed a car with their APC nearly killing a small child because the brakes failed.

They also would have gotten medals more than likely.

/for the love of god can we vote out Joe this year?
//if we don't I'm running for mayor next cycle and will do everything in my power to protect my citizens from Joe
///I'm not familiar with what a mayor does, why do you ask?
 
2008-07-30 08:28:48 AM
CastorPimp: I'd like to see SWAT break into the wrong house in Texas and have them wiped out with some redneck armed to the hilt

Why is it always a redneck that is armed to the hilt? Also, why does everyone still think that there are only rednecks in southern states? Oh yea, and why does everyone think that every single person in the south is a redneck?

/lives in the south
//is armed to the hilt
///is definately not a redneck
////could probably wipe out a SWAT team
 
2008-07-30 08:29:00 AM
Maybe they were given awards for participation, because you wouldn't want to hurt their feelings after all.
 
2008-07-30 08:31:05 AM
Tat'dGreaser: FTA: "The easy decision would have been to retreat under covering fire. The team did not take the easy way out," Dolan told the crowd. "This is a perfect example of a situation that could have gone horribly wrong, but did not because of the professionalism with which it was handled."

Well that is why they got the medals. I can understand that, and they had the restraint not to shoot the guy. They got horrible intel and they could have gone in there guns blazing, but they didn't.


I do not understand why they get medals simply for not shooting innocent people. Yes, they may have handled the situation professionally, but isn't that expected from all police officers?

Or, maybe not.
 
2008-07-30 08:31:30 AM
Dear Florida:

What the hell is wrong with you guys? I mean, granted, you have your own tag and all so we here at Fark can spot your hijinks, but seriously... This is too much. I mean, supporting bestiality, whackjob residents, crazy criminals and people farking with manatees are enough to have earned a fine reputation as "America's Penis", so why do you feel the need to continue pushing the envelope? I don't think you have any competition for someone else here getting their own tag.

I remember Florida as the place where New England sent all their old people to die, as well as the home of Disney World. Now, you've become a breeding ground of craziness. Keep in mind, that isn't a bad thing per se, but tone it down a bit. If you keep on this path for much longer, the rest of us are going to have to nuke you from orbit, just to be sure. We don't want any of your stupid spilling over into the rest of the mainland.

Regards,
Me
 
2008-07-30 08:31:41 AM
w_houle: Maybe they were given awards for participation, because you wouldn't want to hurt their feelings after all.

Heh, that did make me snort a little. Precious snowflake SWAT officers.
 
2008-07-30 08:32:36 AM
i owned a board-up company in so-cal in the 80s-90s, and had many calls from the PD's with swat teams. when L.A got there cop RV (armored car+battering ram) i received two calls on swat using the new toy for wrong houses, with in months of each other.
pissed off home owners, tear gas filled structurally unsound homes, with yellow tape.
these guys sound like the key stone cops, and thE chef a asshat.
and for the people saying "they controlled themselves" by not shooting the home owner in this story, fail, they shot the place full of holes, everywhere but the guy hiding behind his chair.
 
2008-07-30 08:32:43 AM
Malinki: benlonghair: labman: Their intent was good and there was nothing done that wasn't repairable.

No, the intent wasn't good. A couple of bags of dope is not worth a paramilitary raid on a US citizen's house. A couple of state troopers could have done the same thing.

Fail.

team had gone there looking for a gang member's guns


No, you fail. That comment was about this:

labman:
I had a friend who had his house raided by the North Charleston SWAT team. His neighbors were selling drugs, but the buyers were cutting through his back yard and the police thought it was his house they were buying it from.

The took the battering ram to the door while he and his mother were watching wheel of fortune. They very quickly realized their mistake and they were horrified at what happened. they fixed the door, no problem.

Nobody sued, though. Their intent was good and there was nothing done that wasn't repairable.
 
2008-07-30 08:32:44 AM
Splat763: Tat'dGreaser: Well that is why they got the medals. I can understand that, and they had the restraint not to shoot the guy. They got horrible intel and they could have gone in there guns blazing, but they didn't.

FTFA: "Khang fired several shots at the "intruders" who turned out to be members of the Minneapolis Police Department's SWAT team. The officers returned fire. Their protective gear prevented them from being harmed by the bullets."

They did go in guns blazing. They got medals for firing on an innocent man and forcing him in to surrender rather than retreating.


"the officers returned fire" - that's not restraint. the only reason this guy is not dead is because apparently these cops did not possess the firearms handling skills to hit their target. police are not trained to shoot to frighten or wound or break windows. they are trained to shoot to kill. the only reason this guy is alive is because of incompetence on the part of the police in minneapolis. how's that for irony?
 
2008-07-30 08:33:05 AM
SleazySteve: Or, maybe not.

I do believe the reasoning is they faced a deadly situation and kept going. Not killing the guy is a bonus. Once again, I think they should turn the medals down but I understand why they would be up for them.
 
2008-07-30 08:33:07 AM
CastorPimp: I'd like to see SWAT break into the wrong house in Texas and have them wiped out with some redneck armed to the hilt

Been done. They had a big ol' barbecue in Waco.
 
2008-07-30 08:33:08 AM
When a CI gives cops a tip do they ever do their own research or do they just take Bubbles' word as the gospel and storm the house?
 
2008-07-30 08:33:17 AM
benlonghair: labman: Their intent was good and there was nothing done that wasn't repairable.

No, the intent wasn't good. A couple of bags of dope is not worth a paramilitary raid on a US citizen's house. A couple of state troopers could have done the same thing.


i have a feeling this wasn't just some college kid selling a little bit of weed. you're giving the benefit of the doubt to one party but not the other with no basis for either.
 
2008-07-30 08:33:24 AM
I didn't kill anyone today. I deserve a medal.
 
2008-07-30 08:33:30 AM
The fact that they didn't kill the family is a reason to keep their jobs NOT get an 'award'.

That's just farked up..
 
2008-07-30 08:34:20 AM
w_houle: Maybe they were given awards for participation, because you wouldn't want to hurt their feelings after all.

Thread over... we have a winner!
 
2008-07-30 08:35:11 AM
SleazySteve: I do not understand why they get medals simply for not shooting innocent people. Yes, they may have handled the situation professionally, but isn't that expected from all police officers?

I wouldn't call shooting back and missing "professional." I also don't know why they got an award for getting lucky
 
2008-07-30 08:35:37 AM
CastorPimp: I'd like to see SWAT break into the wrong house in Texas and have them wiped out with some redneck armed to the hilt

It would be a good thing in the long run. Police need to learn their place, they are not some Delta Force wanabe. The drug was is Prohibition 2.0 and it has as much chance of success as Prohibition 1.0. Legalise, tax, and regulate is the way to go.

Malinki: Fail.

team had gone there looking for a gang member's guns


So arrest the gang member/members when they leave the house and go back and search. Surround the house, turn off the water and power, and get on the megaphone and tell anyone else to come out. Yea it isn't as "cool" as busting down doors of innocent civilians and pot smokers, but that is the way things used to be done. Could they destroy evidence, possibility, but is it worth the death and destruction these cops thugs inflict on our society?

/leap.cc (new window)
 
2008-07-30 08:35:41 AM
ErikShocker: Had this been AZ they would have burned the house down, killed the dog, and destroyed a car with their APC nearly killing a small child because the brakes failed.

They also would have gotten medals more than likely.

/for the love of god can we vote out Joe this year?
//if we don't I'm running for mayor next cycle and will do everything in my power to protect my citizens from Joe
///I'm not familiar with what a mayor does, why do you ask?


As a Canuck I have to ask-who is Joe?
 
2008-07-30 08:36:45 AM
They don't have my address. I falsified my renewal. I put down 1060 West Addison.

/Never obscure
 
2008-07-30 08:37:07 AM
Gee, I always wondered what was going to happen when all those kids who got trophies just for participation were going to do when they grew up. I guess we know now. They continue to get rewarded for mediocrity.

And the medal for "Best Door Breech" goes to Officer Smith... the Medal for "Shineyest Boots" goes to Officer Jones... Best "Stern Speaking Voice" to Officer Peters... etc.

Bonus Funny:Not a Rickroll
 
2008-07-30 08:38:00 AM
ZAZ: The right solution was to retreat and wait it out.

Boston's second largest wrongful death payment was to the family of a man killed in a raid on the wrong address.


The right solution would have been not to be there in the first place. Cops should not be busting down any doors, period, without corroboration. One informant saying "They've got guns!" should never be sufficient cause for a warrant.
 
2008-07-30 08:38:09 AM
I'm really surprised they aren't trying to charge the guy for shooting at the police. Not because I think they should...I just think they would.
 
2008-07-30 08:39:07 AM
ToughLoveInAction: But giving them a medal for restraint? Meh.

/that's like giving a dog a treat for not shiatting on the carpet.
 
2008-07-30 08:40:02 AM
Tat'dGreaser: SleazySteve: Or, maybe not.

I do believe the reasoning is they faced a deadly situation and kept going. Not killing the guy is a bonus. Once again, I think they should turn the medals down but I understand why they would be up for them.


i understand the mistakes are made, and you can't fault the officers in the raid if the intelligence they were given was wrong, but i don't think they deserve an award. i think awards should be given for those who go above and beyond their given responsibility. if they would have retreated, they would not have been doing what they're supposed to do. they did exactly what they were supposed to, but nothing more. in my eyes, that doesn't deserve a medal, but then again, that's up to the discretion of the person giving them the medal.
 
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