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2008-07-29 08:06:31 PM
Exercise is worthless without diet.
 
2008-07-29 08:06:48 PM
It really isn't enough... a couple hours of moderate exercise beats 30 minutes of intense exercise.

That being said... some people think Yoga is "exercise." Maybe if people weren't that farking stupid, they'd lose some weight.
 
2008-07-29 08:07:05 PM
Haoie: That's no reason to stop exercise. You'd still be better of doing it compared to sitting down and doing nothing.

This. And honestly, if you work out 5 days a week for 30 good minutes and don't lose weight, put down the fork asshole.
 
2008-07-29 08:07:52 PM
You can always out eat your workout. An old cycling coach told me "eat until you're 80% full" & that "hunger is the felling of fat leaving your body".

/words to live by
//no longer overweight
 
2008-07-29 08:08:41 PM
Two fat threads in one day???

I saw a show on discovery health (or something like that) last week and it showed people who were anywhere from 380lbs. - 700lbs. The record for calories consumed in a single day was 36,950 from this British guy. They said he spent $14,000/year on chocolate and candy bars alone. They said the average super morbidly obese person on the show ate about $300-$500 worth of food EVERY DAY!

How the fark do these people afford it, let alone eat all of it?!?
 
2008-07-29 08:08:54 PM
This reminds me of a kid in my neighborhood, we all called him Jimmy Testicles, though his last name was Testa. He was always a tubby kid though the summer before High School he decided to get in shape to play football. I remember seeimg him go running every farking day that summer but as the summer went by, he actually seemed to get fatter.

One day, a week before school started, I found out why. About 3 miles from my house was a Burger King. One afternoon I was went there and noticed Jimmy Testicles sitting at a table, in his running gear, pounding a Whopper, Fries, and a large shake.

Jimmy never made the football team...
 
2008-07-29 08:09:11 PM
1. Just telling the subjects to restrict themselves to 1,500 calories per day and trusting them to do it is hardly scientific. If they could limit their caloric intake on their own, they wouldn't weigh 193 pounds.

2. I'm no Lance Armstrong, but it's my experience that most folks have a warped perception of what "intense exercise" means. I go to the gym fairly often (no, I don't have to be there in 26 minutes) and I'm amazed at the number of people who do four bench presses, walk on the treadmill for eight minutes, go buy an extra large smoothie and then hit the showers.
 
2008-07-29 08:09:31 PM
Everyone biting on Subby's headline needs to RTFA. Basically, the more you exercise, the more weight you can lose.

TFA never says that you won't lose weight exercising 30 minutes a day. Quite the opposite actually.

/Don't really care, 6 foot tall, lazy, 30 something, a glutton, and only 162 pounds.
//Suck it, fatties!
 
2008-07-29 08:09:52 PM
PascalsGhost: put down the fork asshole.

Is that anything like a forklift?
 
2008-07-29 08:10:02 PM
Does anyone offer an at home liposuction kit?
 
2008-07-29 08:10:03 PM
I exercise at least 45 minutes 5 days a week and eat tons of food.

Yeah, I'm fat... but I can still kick YOUR ass.

/I don't give a shiat if you think I'm sexy.
//Really, I'd rather you didn't.
///Ew.
 
2008-07-29 08:10:21 PM
What's needed is a psychological change, more than anything.

I learned to love pain, and suffering. I learned to love pushing my body beyond its limits. I learned to say 'no' to myself and my food cravings.

I learned to put my foot down, be my own boss, set a calorie intake limit and stick to it.

I learned that I love feeling exhausted after biking 45km.

Most of all, I learned that if all 265lbs of raging fatass former-me could do this, and bring myself down to 189lbs in a year, with a complete psychological change...anyone could. Unless you're a quad, there are no excuses.
 
2008-07-29 08:10:33 PM
VictoryCabal: It's tough. For months now, I've been going to the gym most days of the week, doing 5K's, playing on softball and volleyball leagues and I'm still a fatty.

I'm less of a fatty, but still a fatty none the less. It's a long, hard slog.


Mmmmmmm.... slog.
 
2008-07-29 08:11:12 PM
AR55: I'm pretty sure once you reach a certain age, late 40ish, and you exercise everyday to near exhaustion, well that can't be good for your health. Overexerting your body once you're way past your glory ages can't be good for you, unless there is some contradictory evidence I am missing.

As for losing weight, as stated numerous times before: burn more than you eat.


And not with gasoline, please. I need it to drive to the gym in 26 minutes....
 
2008-07-29 08:11:30 PM
ROFLWAFFLE: Two fat threads in one day???

I saw a show on discovery health (or something like that) last week and it showed people who were anywhere from 380lbs. - 700lbs. The record for calories consumed in a single day was 36,950 from this British guy. They said he spent $14,000/year on chocolate and candy bars alone. They said the average super morbidly obese person on the show ate about $300-$500 worth of food EVERY DAY!

How the fark do these people afford it, let alone eat all of it?!?


Dude. fark working. I'm going to sell chocolate to fat people!
 
2008-07-29 08:12:01 PM
JmBa: Ruffage: Follow-up to the neighborhood fat ass thread?

/Is it Faturday?

We've really been on a roll with the fatty-bashing the past few days.


I see what you did there.

itazurakko: But the point being, sure, it's easy to just say "well, fattie should get off his ass and be responsible" and some might do that. But elsewhere, even the LAZY ASSES live a healthier lifestyle, and that is what makes the national numbers different.

Feh. Healthy lifestyles are for hippies and non-Americans. Here in the civilized West, we take appetite suppressants like Adderall.

/Old and busted: gay friend
//New and hot: ADHD friend with prescription
///Be thin...Hollywood style!
 
2008-07-29 08:12:10 PM
Rug Doctor: 1. Just telling the subjects to restrict themselves to 1,500 calories per day and trusting them to do it is hardly scientific. If they could limit their caloric intake on their own, they wouldn't weigh 193 pounds.


THIS. If I keep myself to 1500 (35 yr old dude), I drop weight like crazy doing nothing.

2. I'm no Lance Armstrong, but it's my experience that most folks have a warped perception of what "intense exercise" means. I go to the gym fairly often (no, I don't have to be there in 26 minutes) and I'm amazed at the number of people who do four bench presses, walk on the treadmill for eight minutes, go buy an extra large smoothie and then hit the showers.


But it is still better than nothing. When I first started on the stationary bike, I could do MAYBE 15 minutes at a good pace and them almost die getting to the shower. But it worked. A lot.
 
2008-07-29 08:12:10 PM
As far as I can tell, the best way to not be a fat-ass is to own a home that's too big.

/can't afford food
//chores are like having a Fitness USA membership!
 
2008-07-29 08:12:11 PM
What's involved is fighting your animal nature every single day. I would be a fat, lazy bastard on the couch if I had my way. I choose not to.

The world deserves the most in-shape and healthy me it can get.
 
2008-07-29 08:12:52 PM
Get bent, subby. I lost 35 pounds in a couple of years just by eating less junk and cutting down on portion size. I don't remember exercising too much, just restricting what I ate.

I've put back on about 10 pounds, but I still fit all of my size 8 or so jeans, and most of my shirts still fit me too.
 
2008-07-29 08:13:24 PM
JmBa: drjekel_mrhyde: Men in the UK think the size twelve in women(14US) is ok
Slighty NSFW
Link (new window)

Oh don't even bring clothing sizes into this. Vanity sizing has rendered them totally meaningless and besides two women who wear the same size can have completely different bodies.


I have no problem with it I wish my GF would get back down to a 12(she's at a "14-16")
 
2008-07-29 08:13:49 PM
puffy999: It really isn't enough... a couple hours of moderate exercise beats 30 minutes of intense exercise.

Actually, what's best is if you an mix in anaerobic and aerobic exercise, with 30 minutes for each. Try switching off anaerobic areas, arms, legs, stomach, back, rest and repeat.

For the aerobic, running for 30 minutes (even if you only make it a mile or two) is what will get your body going. You need to get a good mix of exercise and change it up. Aerobic stuff is pretty boring if you don't spice it up. Go swimming, or biking, or hiking up steep trails....spend some effort doing fun stuff as well as the hard stuff (like running on a boring treadmill for 30 minutes....I guess you can catch up on Family Guy)

That being said... some people think Yoga is "exercise." Maybe if people weren't that farking stupid, they'd lose some weight.

I think that's what moderate exercise means. You won't lose anything, but you won't gain either.

/ Please ignore the name calling in the thread, only the trolls talk big smack about "fatty"
 
2008-07-29 08:14:00 PM
I can't believe we are still discussing this crap. Everyone must know by now that if you eat too much you get fat, even if you exercise. Stop eating so much and make the food you do eat healthier (whole grains, fruits, vegetables) and most of you will start to lose weight. Do the exercise to keep your heart in shape and your muscle tone.

WTF is so hard about that?
 
2008-07-29 08:14:32 PM
Wait- I thought people were fat because of their neighborhoods? Jesus I'm confused...

/Let's just go ahead and blame video games/the media
 
2008-07-29 08:14:46 PM
palad: What's involved is fighting your animal nature every single day. I would be a fat, lazy bastard on the couch if I had my way. I choose not to.

The world deserves the most in-shape and healthy me it can get.


This is true, but I have little will power. You can make it very easy on yourself. I found healthy low cal foods that I love. I eat alot fo them. I do physical shiat I enjoy and stuff that feels too much like work I toss.
I mean, it odes take discipline, but I'm amazed how easy it is once you start.
 
2008-07-29 08:15:20 PM
JmBa: Ruffage: Follow-up to the neighborhood fat ass thread?

/Is it Faturday?

We've really been on a roll with the fatty-bashing the past few days.


Ummm...a sweet roll, maybe?
 
2008-07-29 08:15:30 PM
DronePrime SuperHigh Intensity Interval Training.


FTFY
/the only way to lose weight is to have a good shiat. program
 
2008-07-29 08:15:40 PM
people forget that the body reaches a plateau when it comes to exercise and diet. It is an adaptation mechanism. The key is to variate the types of exercises and the length, and the repetitions, etc, to fool the body. Never maintain a routine for more than two weeks. Change your work out. Keep it interesting. And most of all, train with intensity. Lackadaisical exercise is better than nothing, but marginally.
 
2008-07-29 08:15:51 PM
A cohort of 200?

Call me when you have a real study.

/I'll be at the ice cream parlor.
 
2008-07-29 08:16:19 PM
ranchguy - one of best scenes ever
www.codinghorror.com

/190 lbs, unable to gain wait, wheres my article
 
2008-07-29 08:16:29 PM
Forty-Two Great. They're fat and too stupid to follow directions.

Well they are women.
 
2008-07-29 08:16:32 PM
ReeferChiefer: FTFA:
By the end of the 24-month intervention, the women who managed to lose at least 10% of their starting body weight (which was, on average, about 193 lbs.)

At first I thought, "Holy shiat, these biatches literally weigh a ton. It has to take them 30 mins just to get upright..."

Then I put the blunt down.

/seriously


lol, that was awesome!

/did a double take as well
 
2008-07-29 08:17:07 PM
MtLebanonBalogna: JmBa: Ruffage: Follow-up to the neighborhood fat ass thread?

/Is it Faturday?

We've really been on a roll with the fatty-bashing the past few days.

Ummm...a sweet roll, maybe?


Which will then be converted to one around the waist.
 
2008-07-29 08:17:42 PM
Ruffage: JmBa: Ruffage: Follow-up to the neighborhood fat ass thread?

/Is it Faturday?

We've really been on a roll with the fatty-bashing the past few days.

I see what you did there.


Unintentional I swear.

I feel bad now. Especially since I lol'd.

/not a fatty-basher
 
2008-07-29 08:18:00 PM
If this isn't impetuous to not get fat in the first place, I don't know what is. Then again, an hour a day only seems like a lot because we've gotten so lazy. Most people should be able to do something active, even if it's just walking, for just an hour per day.
 
2008-07-29 08:18:10 PM
They just figured this out? LMAO!

Moderate aerobic exercise for general health and improved cardiovascular fitness. If weight loss (read: body composition) is your goal, you should be lifting weights.

And then don't forget, there is a damn good reason it's always been said that abs are made in the kitchen ;-).
 
2008-07-29 08:18:12 PM
I get annoyed when the "professionals" pat people on the heads and say things like, "Walking even that extra ten steps can help keep you healthy!" What's next, counting blinking, breathing, farting, and standing up as "a workout"?

If taking a walk around a few level (as in no hills) blocks with your dog is enough to get you breathing heavy and your heart racing, chances are you're an unhealthy fatass. That isn't exercise. That's taking the dog for a "walk."

I used to buy into the whole "walking is exercise!" crap until I started biking everywhere. It's not exercise, sorry. The first mile I rode on my bike nearly killed me... my legs were shaking, my heart was racing, and I was very pissed off.

I think the whole thing with "moderate is best!" crap is that those in power are too afraid to tell people, "Do more," because they're afraid if they tell people they need to work harder, they won't do anything. It's like trying to get a little kid to eat anything green.. "aww come on honey, just ONE bite!"

I got, "Eat your green stuff or else."

I ate my green stuff. All it took was "the look."

I get annoyed when women who are much larger than me say things like, "oh wow, you bike everywhere you go? Isn't that hard?"

I feel like saying, "Not as hard as it is for you to walk twenty paces to the vending machine..."

Is "getting in shape" easy? No. Our society sets us up to be fat little piggies. Is it worth it? Um yes. Our society gives people too many excuses.

It's your health, it's your life, it's all you've got. Why not make the best of it? (and people who say "I don't have time to work out!" seem to have plenty of time to watch TV...)
 
2008-07-29 08:18:37 PM
TheShavingofOccam123: Does anyone offer an at home liposuction kit?

You can make that yourself with a Shop Vac and some creativity.

I just can't wait 'till this gem (new window) get's delivered in two weeks!

/I'm gonna be dead-sexy!
 
2008-07-29 08:19:28 PM
wow.
today must be "faturday".

tons of fat threads. makes it hard to choose where to go.

if it ain't to lose weight, at least some of them look happy doing it. sometimes an emotional lift is all ya need.

you know, when you're fat.
 
2008-07-29 08:19:35 PM
James T. Smirk: The 30 minutes is a maintenance amount after you are in shape. You are going to need to do a whole lot more before you get to that point.

This.

Suppose you spend your 30 minutes running (one of the most calorie-burning fitness activities out there) and can do 3 miles in half an hour (which would be decent for someone just getting started). Congratulations, you've burned 300 extra calories today. Let's say you're pretty fit and can do 4 miles in 30 minutes (which would be 7:30 miles), you're still only up to 400 calories.

Granted, it's a lot better than 0, but unless you're cutting your calorie intake at the same time, the weight is going to come off verrrry slowly at that rate. A 300 calorie deficit equals losing 1 pound about every 2 weeks (1 lb = ~3600 calories if I remember right).
 
2008-07-29 08:20:03 PM
mandyer: Wait- I thought people were fat because of their neighborhoods? Jesus I'm confused...

/Let's just go ahead and blame video games/the media


I await the next article that says eating too much will make you fat.

/Can't wait
 
2008-07-29 08:20:19 PM
4 miles Everyday on the treadmill
2 evenings a week I ride 2 miles on my bike

/Loves every minute of it
//5 ft
///110
//// Slashies!
 
2008-07-29 08:20:30 PM
...Stupid man world...

\oblig
 
2008-07-29 08:21:37 PM
boot20: Actually, what's best is if you an mix in anaerobic and aerobic exercise, with 30 minutes for each. Try switching off anaerobic areas, arms, legs, stomach, back, rest and repeat.

I don't disagree, but I was saying that keeping your heart rate up for a longer time is going to be better in the longrun than keeping it higher for a relatively short amount of time.

And I used my own personal interpretation of moderate and intense... a half hour jog to the top of a local hiking hill is going to be damn good for you, and is intense. Walking at 2 MPH for two hours isn't going to be as good for you as two hours of brisk walking or bike riding. I think a brisk walk is moderate exercise... not a slow walk around the block.
Obviously there's more to the world than walking or jogging... but that's a separate issue. One problem people do have is that they think their options are limited... swimming can be intense, hiking can be intense depending on your location (certainly intense if you're double-timing it up a hill).

Yoga is not moderate exercise. Yoga is exercise for lazy people who don't know what exercise is, hence my use of "stupid." Yoga IS a good thing, and has health benefits. But it isn't exercise, unless one also considers lifting the large diet coke "exercise" as well.
 
2008-07-29 08:21:41 PM
TheShavingofOccam123: Does anyone offer an at home liposuction kit?

Yep.
www.bestofasseenontv.com

/probably also good for late term abortions
//too far?
 
2008-07-29 08:21:53 PM
I have lost 40lbs since May by making 3 small changes in my diet.
#1 I quit eating french fries.
#2 I quit having a cheese danish every morning, opting for a banana instead.
#3 I cut out the added sugar, using Splenda instead in coffee and tea.
The weight is still coming off, though a little slower now. Initially it was a couple lbs a day, now a couple lbs a week. Of course, I've found it's a lot easier losing weight if you put it on originally by eating ridiculous amounts of garbage that you can easily do without.
 
2008-07-29 08:22:00 PM
Slugs_of_a_banana_nature: I get annoyed when the "professionals" pat people on the heads and say things like, "Walking even that extra ten steps can help keep you healthy!" What's next, counting blinking, breathing, farting, and standing up as "a workout"?

If taking a walk around a few level (as in no hills) blocks with your dog is enough to get you breathing heavy and your heart racing, chances are you're an unhealthy fatass. That isn't exercise. That's taking the dog for a "walk."

I used to buy into the whole "walking is exercise!" crap until I started biking everywhere. It's not exercise, sorry. The first mile I rode on my bike nearly killed me... my legs were shaking, my heart was racing, and I was very pissed off.

I think the whole thing with "moderate is best!" crap is that those in power are too afraid to tell people, "Do more," because they're afraid if they tell people they need to work harder, they won't do anything. It's like trying to get a little kid to eat anything green.. "aww come on honey, just ONE bite!"

I got, "Eat your green stuff or else."

I ate my green stuff. All it took was "the look."

I get annoyed when women who are much larger than me say things like, "oh wow, you bike everywhere you go? Isn't that hard?"

I feel like saying, "Not as hard as it is for you to walk twenty paces to the vending machine..."

Is "getting in shape" easy? No. Our society sets us up to be fat little piggies. Is it worth it? Um yes. Our society gives people too many excuses.

It's your health, it's your life, it's all you've got. Why not make the best of it? (and people who say "I don't have time to work out!" seem to have plenty of time to watch TV...)



Great you got into shape. And at least you aren't an asshole about it and you take time to pass the positive energy on.
 
2008-07-29 08:22:32 PM
PascalsGhost: I have se

The plural of anecdote is not data
 
2008-07-29 08:22:54 PM
A lot of people think that 30 minutes of fitness walking with a 100-bpm pulse is exercise. That ain't gonna burn whale blubber without a severely restricted diet.

But I know a 400-lb guy who went to 185 in 16 months by jogging, and joining Weight Watchers. Refuses, however, to eat anything he doesn't prepare himself. Weighs all portions. Counts all calories. Does zero cheat/reward. Trains every, single, day. The transformation was magic.

But the human mind is a superb instrument for rationalization. And most folks grossly overestimate the calories they burn in a gym.
Besides, touch a restaurant, and all bets are off. Its all butter.
That's the harsh truth.

And as to women's sizing. Most of it is intentionally erroneous. Size 8 is a size 10 or 12. I used to work at a clothing store. Chicks will pay $160 for a pair of jeans that says their ass is 4 inches smaller than the truth.
 
2008-07-29 08:22:57 PM
Heamer: At least I'm damn sexy now. If I were a gay clone of myself, I would f*ck the sh*t out of me.

Give yourself a hand.
 
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