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2002-12-10 11:22:56 AM
Let's get cracking - what is the official method on the Federal level - still firing squad, or is it the gallows?
 
2002-12-10 11:22:57 AM
Jeeesus.....in California, we learned this lesson already in 1980...now Manson is available for porole....then they quickly figured iut that it was bullshiat and reinstated the death penalty.......

nothing worse than a liberal humanist to f-up society....
 
2002-12-10 11:23:19 AM
hooray, let the killing begin.
/sarcasm
 
2002-12-10 11:23:34 AM
shiat, well now im deffinatly farked
 
2002-12-10 11:24:09 AM
I thought they had overturned it already?

Oh well, we can only hope that the next court above it overturns it.

-liberal humanist out to f-up society...
 
2002-12-10 11:24:10 AM
yeah, everything would suddenly be perfect if there were simply no liberals. Stupid reality!
 
2002-12-10 11:24:15 AM
Werkbot: I believe its the ole' needle these days....
 
2002-12-10 11:24:19 AM
Onion13-ever read helter skelter? he may be eligible, but it ain't gonna happen.
 
2002-12-10 11:25:07 AM
"There is no fundamental right to a continued opportunity for exoneration throughout the course of one's natural life."

I've never read anything more anti-American in my lifetime.
 
2002-12-10 11:25:30 AM
Yay! Yesterday - abortion flamewar. Today - capital punishment flamewar.

What's tomorrow? Tastes great/less filling flamewar?
 
2002-12-10 11:26:21 AM
goober, have we had a good gun flamewar in a while? I'd like to see a new one of those.
 
2002-12-10 11:27:27 AM
Bring em' in, if guilty, IMMEDIATELY GO TO GALLOWS. DO NOT PASS GO, DO NOT COLLECT TAX-PAYERS $$$ for 20 years. DO NOT WORK OUT AND PHUCK YOUR NEIGHBOR.
 
DB
2002-12-10 11:27:27 AM
tastes great.
 
2002-12-10 11:27:28 AM
Wasn't "Federal Death Penalty Constitutional" a recent pr0n snuff/feces flick?
 
2002-12-10 11:28:19 AM
Some people should die...that's just unconscious knowledge.
/perry
 
2002-12-10 11:28:32 AM
Find a way to lock up the murders so they never have any chance to get out and I'll be against the death penalty.

Until then, fry em, gas em, inject em because people escape, get through the system or whatever, and kill again.
 
2002-12-10 11:29:10 AM
Here we go...
 
2002-12-10 11:29:28 AM
Good. Now lets take all this assholes out back and shoot them.
 
2002-12-10 11:30:02 AM
Koronin
Support the option of "Life Without Parole" in your state as an alternative to the death penalty. Then you get both your wishes.
 
2002-12-10 11:30:46 AM
ahh, tastes great/less filling.. my entire class got into a shouting match about that when I was in 4th grade or so. mrs. johnston was not amused.
 
2002-12-10 11:31:19 AM
4 Words: "Escape from New York"
 
2002-12-10 11:31:49 AM
Stubblyhead: I sincerely hope your were in the "tastes great" camp.
 
2002-12-10 11:32:11 AM
Now we are too keep the fetal death penalty constitutional.
"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
 
2002-12-10 11:35:12 AM
wow..nikita is mixing the flame pot...with abortion....and I too am firmly in the "Taste's Great" camp....
 
2002-12-10 11:36:04 AM
to be honest, goober, I was probably shouting both of them. i think we all were.
 
2002-12-10 11:36:30 AM
there should be a "life w/o parole fund", and everybody who agrees with the policy can contribute as much to it as they wish. When the money runs out, time runs out. While CA schools suck, I have to repay student loans (yeh I know) and servicemen still get paid McDonalds wages, I don't think we should be paying room, board, medical and legal for the subhumans. ESPECIALLY for life.
 
2002-12-10 11:37:01 AM
what threatens domestic tranquility, general welfare, and the blessings of liberty more than overpopulation((creating starvation, economic woes, emotional/political/economic unrest, suffering, and all sorts of other evils))
 
2002-12-10 11:38:32 AM
But wait, everybody- with Miller Lite you don't even have to choose.

because it's both.
 
2002-12-10 11:40:45 AM
There must be two actions: Punishment and Restitution. When a child makes a mess, the child gets a firm frowning and is also required to clean up the mess.

When you murder you take away from society. If we utilize the death penalty there can be no chance for restitution. Therefore, death row inmates should be used for medical experimentation. Overseen by a board of doctors and scientists to make efficient use of their tissues. Imagine how fast we could find a cure for cancer or AIDS.
 
2002-12-10 11:41:39 AM
Well its becomming obvious the country is leaning to the right now, so thank God sanity will return to America. Yes! Thats right liberals I said the dreaded G-Word! God! HA! Go ahead and sue me, the right-leaning courts will back me up! MWahahahaha!

To Recap:
Thank *God* the country is leaning right
 
2002-12-10 11:41:43 AM
/troll with flamethrower ON

It's funny how usually the same people that are against the death penalty are for abortion rights, and vica-versa.

/troll with flamethrower OFF
 
2002-12-10 11:44:32 AM
LoneDoggie,
It is one of the great ironies of our day, and future historians are going to think its funny too.
 
2002-12-10 11:45:07 AM
I figure, hey even if the person on death row didn't commit the murder they're accused of, they're probably guilty of something.
 
2002-12-10 11:45:09 AM
I'm in the "fark Heineken! Pabst Blue Ribbon!" camp.
 
2002-12-10 11:45:09 AM
damn, sorry I forgot to throw in a gun rights and religous angle into that one. How about...

Would it have been ok to abort someone who later in life, after being raped by a priest would have killed said priest with a handgun and then, after being charged with that crime, was eventually put to death?

/ow my head.
 
2002-12-10 11:50:22 AM
"Support the option of "Life Without Parole" in your state as an alternative to the death penalty. Then you get both your wishes."

They still escape, or are let out through cracks in the system. Not good enough :)
 
2002-12-10 11:54:22 AM
There aren't a lot of escapes (even fewer who stay escaped long), Koronin, and the "without chance of parole" closes the other gaps.
 
2002-12-10 11:55:06 AM
NightSweat: Not Anti-American. The judge has to go by the law and here is it a law that a man/woman who has been convicted has the right to try to exonerate himself for his/her entire lifetime?

We have appeals processes and when they are exhausted the penalty should be carried out. The End.
 
2002-12-10 12:00:17 PM
here=where

sorry
 
2002-12-10 12:08:10 PM
Thank God! Because of this ruling, women will still be able to get an abortion in Georgia.

I am opposed to the Death Penalty, here's why:

1. While there are many criminals who clearly deserve death, the actual "criminal justice system" is far from perfect. Many, many innocent victims have been executed for crimes they did not commit. Every one who suppports the death penalty, their blood is on your hands. I say don't kill 'em, just lock 'em up for life.

2. Killing the material witness to a crime is kinda stupid. Like Timothy McVeigh -- why kill him? Maybe in 20 or 40 years down the road, he might soften up and decide to start talking -- then we could FIND OUT WHO HIS ACCOMPLICES WERE!!! I say don't kill 'em, just lock 'em up for life.

3. I can accept that the State gets certain "rights" I don't, like setting the speed limit and regulating trade. In return for this I get SuperSize McValue Meals and Prime Time TV. But I don't think I gave the State the right to kill its own people (in some states, gassed its own people) in cold blood. I say don't kill 'em, just lock 'em up for life.

And in conclusion: Don't kill 'em, just lock 'em up for life.
 
2002-12-10 12:16:30 PM
Twist the rope longer

Tie the knot stronger;

If he did wrong, the law must do wronger.

Ho! Ho!

Kenosha Democrat, 1851 on the hanging of John McCaffery, Wisconsin's one and only execution.


I am proud to live in a state that had the good sense to abandon barbarism and become civilized in 1853.
 
2002-12-10 12:18:47 PM
Suebhoney
Laws derive from principles. A law is not Just because it has been passed by a legislature. A law is Just when it supports the basic principles the society has been founded on.

Among those principles in America as it was conceived are "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". The idea of reinvention or the ability to atone for past trespasses against society is also a deep part of America's principles.

I stand by my statement that the judge's words are firmly Anti-American.
 
2002-12-10 12:21:23 PM
I'll dare to be unpopular: less filling.
 
2002-12-10 12:22:27 PM
I wonder if Texas will make this a state-wide holiday.
 
2002-12-10 12:22:49 PM
God bless America, the only first-world country that still kills its citizens.
 
2002-12-10 12:27:29 PM
LoneDoggie - I'm for abortion rights AND the death penalty.

Ring3577 - it isn't possible for a murderer to make restitution for his crime. (But I like your suggestion)

I would be more willing to join the "lock 'em up for life" camp if prisons became completely self-sustaining - grow their own food, etc.
 
2002-12-10 12:29:28 PM
Yaaaaaaayyy
 
2002-12-10 12:33:24 PM
Benny_Hill writes: would be more willing to join the "lock 'em up for life" camp if prisons became completely self-sustaining - grow their own food, etc.

What's your reasoning?
 
2002-12-10 12:44:04 PM

"Rakoff?"
 
2002-12-10 12:51:08 PM
NightSweat: One has to remember that those inalienable rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, does not apply to murderers (one who takes away life). Once they commit a felony, most of their "rights" are taken away as part of the punishment, and rightly so, since a murderer values no life.
 
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