So... this is a follow-up to the team saying he didn't have one, and that the tampering allegations had nothing to do with a team issued cell phone?

/mod-admin self greenlights ftl

Favre: I don't have a team-issued cell phone

FTFY

I am sure Farve still uses a can tied to a string.

AWWWWWWWW Shucks!

C'mon, I saw this at least 735 times on the ESPNews crawl last Thursday!

I miss Warren Moon. :(

Favre takes a shiat. That'll be on Sportscenter in about five minutes.

But he admitted to all the conversations that make up the tampering case. So does the NFL now not need the phone records to bust the Vikings?

/he'll end up playing for Minnesota anyway
//just not til after Week 1, MIN @ GB, Monday night

I work for a cell phone company... so yadda yadda yadda...

vonschiller: Favre takes a shiat. That'll be on Sportscenter in about five minutes.

In Favre's defense, that last shiat he took was huge!

So Favre still tampered by calling the Vikings, right?


Suspend him for a year.

vonschiller: Favre takes a shiat. That'll be on Sportscenter in about five minutes.

But he looked like he was having fun on the can, just letting it hang out like only a kid can. Only Farve can do that.

star_topology: C'mon, I saw this at least 735 times on the ESPNews crawl last Thursday!

exactly. how is this old news a follow-up? Packers need to trade Favre with Ryan Grant to Tampa Bay for a 1st round draft pick, Chris Simms, and Cadillac Williams OR a 1st round pick, 3rd round pick, and an average db/rb.

Igotnothing2: star_topology: Packers need to trade Favre with Ryan Grant to Tampa Bay for a 1st round draft pick, Chris Simms, and Cadillac Williams OR a 1st round pick, 3rd round pick, and an average db/rb.

Favre and Grant to Minn for Adrian Peterson. FTW!

Can't he just drop dead already?

Favre to the AFL FTW.

At this point I'm tempted to tell him to go to hell.

Grow up you moron.

Name one ex-franchise QB who switched teams late in his career and accomplished anything. You can't. Montana? Moon? Cunningham?

H31N0US: Name one ex-franchise QB who switched teams late in his career and accomplished anything. You can't. Montana? Moon? Cunningham?

Thiesman was in Superbowl XVII with the Redskins, was he not?

Trade Favre straight up for Manny.

H31N0US: Name one ex-franchise QB who switched teams late in his career and accomplished anything. You can't. Montana? Moon? Cunningham?

Rob Johnson.

Can somebody tell me why it matters if the cell phone was team-issued or not? If they're tampering, they're tampering, and it is completely irrelevant whose phone he was on.

/speak to headhunters on my firm-issued phone all the time
//including today

Doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

He retired well, that is unil he started getting those delusions of grandure about coming back.

H31N0US: Name one ex-franchise QB who switched teams late in his career and accomplished anything. You can't. Montana? Moon? Cunningham?

Jim Plunkett

VonDozier: You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

WIN

H31N0US: Name one ex-franchise QB who switched teams late in his career and accomplished anything. You can't. Montana? Moon? Cunningham?

Cunningham took the 1998 Vikings to the Conference finals and SHOULD have been in the SB that year (15-1 reg season).

/Vikings will be in the SB this year.

So what if he did have a team issues cell phone? BFD?

H31N0US: Name one ex-franchise QB who switched teams late in his career and accomplished anything. You can't. Montana? Moon? Cunningham?

You just did.

skribble

You win. I lol'd

H31N0US: Name one ex-franchise QB who switched teams late in his career and accomplished anything. You can't. Montana? Moon? Cunningham?

Doug Williams?

Rich Gannon?
Steve Young?

Trade Favre to the Jets for a 4th rounder.

VonDozier: You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

Thread over. We can all just go home now.

H31N0US: Name one ex-franchise QB who switched teams late in his career and accomplished anything. You can't. Montana? Moon? Cunningham?

Montana took the 1993 Chiefs to the AFC Championship game.

I guess it all depends on what "accomplished anything" means. In addition to what Montana and Cunningham did, I would add that Moon had a Pro Bowl season in Seattle.

Does any of this mean that switching teams is detrimental to a career, in and of itself? No, I think it means that, usually, when a player is truly great, his original team holds onto him for as long as possible, then lets him go when it's time to rebuild -- that is, the point at which he's not as great as he once was. Not just with quarterbacks, but with other positions as well (Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith, etc.). Journeyman superstars like Deion Sanders are, I believe, the exception.

Is Favre in that position? Not necessarily. Granted, nobody is harder to prognosticate; he looked washed up before 2007, then suddenly became a Pro Bowler. If Washed Up Brett resurfaces with another team, then sure, he's likely to follow the path of not accomplishing anything. If Pro Bowl Brett resurfaces, then he can do a lot. But here's the point: none of this is a function of simply switching teams.

Ackbarican_Idol: vonschiller: Favre takes a shiat. That'll be on Sportscenter in about five minutes.

In Favre's defense, that last shiat he took was huge!

How many Courics did it weigh?